EA is NOW THE OWNER OF MASS EFFECT

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]"The names of actual companies and products mentioned herein may be the trademarks of their respective owners"

Thats the difference.Nagidar

Doesn't that refer to companies and products OTHER than the ones specifically mentioned? How does that prove that BioWare DIDN'T have an exclusivity agreement with Microsoft?

Look at the placement of that verbage, now go back and look at the placement of the BioWare version and the wording of the BioWare version.

Look man, I don't like this anymore than the next guy, but all things are pointing to EA owning Mass Effect.

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]"The names of actual companies and products mentioned herein may be the trademarks of their respective owners"

Thats the difference.Nagidar

Doesn't that refer to companies and products OTHER than the ones specifically mentioned? How does that prove that BioWare DIDN'T have an exclusivity agreement with Microsoft?

Look at the placement of that verbage, now go back and look at the placement of the BioWare version and the wording of the BioWare version.

Look man, I don't like this anymore than the next guy, but all things are pointing to EA owning Mass Effect.

Wait, what EXACTLY are you arguing?

Personally, I'm NOT arguing against the fact that EA owns Mass Effect. They do. I AM arguing that Microsoft and BioWare could possibly have had an exclusivity agreement for Mass Effect, at the very least for the FIRST Mass Effect (the others are up in the air), before the buyout. In which case, the buyout would not have voided that agreement unless EA dealt with Microsoft, too.

I'm just keeping the question of Mass Effect's 360-exclusivity still open. I don't think we can tell that from copyright and trademark info.

[QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]"The names of actual companies and products mentioned herein may be the trademarks of their respective owners"

Thats the difference.mjarantilla

Doesn't that refer to companies and products OTHER than the ones specifically mentioned? How does that prove that BioWare DIDN'T have an exclusivity agreement with Microsoft?

Look at the placement of that verbage, now go back and look at the placement of the BioWare version and the wording of the BioWare version.

Look man, I don't like this anymore than the next guy, but all things are pointing to EA owning Mass Effect.

Wait, what EXACTLY are you arguing?

Personally, I'm NOT arguing against the fact that EA owns Mass Effect. They do. I AM arguing that Microsoft and BioWare could possibly have had an exclusivity agreement for Mass Effect, at the very least for the FIRST Mass Effect (the others are up in the air), before the buyout. In which case, the buyout would not have voided that agreement unless EA dealt with Microsoft, too.

I'm just keeping the question of Mass Effect's 360-exclusivity still open. I don't think we can tell that from copyright and trademark info.

Copyright - the exclusive right to make copies, license, and otherwise exploit a literary, musical, or artistic work, whether printed, audio, video, etc.: works granted such right by law on or after January 1, 1978, are protected for the lifetime of the author or creator and for a period of 50 years after his or her death.

Trademark - A trademark is a proprietary term that is usually registered with the Patent and Trademark Office to assure its exclusive use by its owner.

Should be no more to be said.

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]"The names of actual companies and products mentioned herein may be the trademarks of their respective owners"

Thats the difference.Nagidar

Doesn't that refer to companies and products OTHER than the ones specifically mentioned? How does that prove that BioWare DIDN'T have an exclusivity agreement with Microsoft?

Look at the placement of that verbage, now go back and look at the placement of the BioWare version and the wording of the BioWare version.

Look man, I don't like this anymore than the next guy, but all things are pointing to EA owning Mass Effect.

Indeed. Just because one does not like it, it is not an excuse to ignore the facts. The article explicitly says that in aquiring Bioware and Pandemic, Mass Effect is one of the games which is also now the owned property of EA....the end.

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]

If thats true, than BioWare disclosure on the BioWare web site is wrong, it should include MS as the Copyright and Trademark holders and it doesn't.

Nagidar

Link?

http://masseffect.bioware.com/legal/copyright.html

Bottom of the page.

I don't think you're correct. Mass Effect's disclosure info is written the same way as Jade Empire's (mentioning Microsoft Game Studios).

Jade Empire was in fact published by MGS.

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]"The names of actual companies and products mentioned herein may be the trademarks of their respective owners"

Thats the difference.Nagidar

Doesn't that refer to companies and products OTHER than the ones specifically mentioned? How does that prove that BioWare DIDN'T have an exclusivity agreement with Microsoft?

Look at the placement of that verbage, now go back and look at the placement of the BioWare version and the wording of the BioWare version.

Look man, I don't like this anymore than the next guy, but all things are pointing to EA owning Mass Effect.

Wait, what EXACTLY are you arguing?

Personally, I'm NOT arguing against the fact that EA owns Mass Effect. They do. I AM arguing that Microsoft and BioWare could possibly have had an exclusivity agreement for Mass Effect, at the very least for the FIRST Mass Effect (the others are up in the air), before the buyout. In which case, the buyout would not have voided that agreement unless EA dealt with Microsoft, too.

I'm just keeping the question of Mass Effect's 360-exclusivity still open. I don't think we can tell that from copyright and trademark info.

Copyright - the exclusive right to make copies, license, and otherwise exploit a literary, musical, or artistic work, whether printed, audio, video, etc.: works granted such right by law on or after January 1, 1978, are protected for the lifetime of the author or creator and for a period of 50 years after his or her death.

Trademark - A trademark is a proprietary term that is usually registered with the Patent and Trademark Office to assure its exclusive use by its owner.

Should be no more to be said.

Mass Effect is still being published by MS which covers the trilogy.

Only way to break that is for EA to buy it out from MS, which is possible but unlikely..

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]"The names of actual companies and products mentioned herein may be the trademarks of their respective owners"

Thats the difference.Nagidar

Doesn't that refer to companies and products OTHER than the ones specifically mentioned? How does that prove that BioWare DIDN'T have an exclusivity agreement with Microsoft?

Look at the placement of that verbage, now go back and look at the placement of the BioWare version and the wording of the BioWare version.

Look man, I don't like this anymore than the next guy, but all things are pointing to EA owning Mass Effect.

Wait, what EXACTLY are you arguing?

Personally, I'm NOT arguing against the fact that EA owns Mass Effect. They do. I AM arguing that Microsoft and BioWare could possibly have had an exclusivity agreement for Mass Effect, at the very least for the FIRST Mass Effect (the others are up in the air), before the buyout. In which case, the buyout would not have voided that agreement unless EA dealt with Microsoft, too.

I'm just keeping the question of Mass Effect's 360-exclusivity still open. I don't think we can tell that from copyright and trademark info.

Copyright - the exclusive right to make copies, license, and otherwise exploit a literary, musical, or artistic work, whether printed, audio, video, etc.: works granted such right by law on or after January 1, 1978, are protected for the lifetime of the author or creator and for a period of 50 years after his or her death.

Trademark - A trademark is a proprietary term that is usually registered with the Patent and Trademark Office to assure its exclusive use by its owner.

Should be no more to be said.

But that has nothing to do with an exclusivity agreement, though. If an exclusivity agreement exists, then EA still has "the exclusive right to make copies, license, and otherwise exploit" Mass Effect. They just have to do it on the 360. If an exclusivity agreement exists. We dont' know if there is one or not, and copyright info cannot tell us that, because copyright only covers ownership.

I hope this deal doesn't go through. EA is a Monopoly.

[QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]"The names of actual companies and products mentioned herein may be the trademarks of their respective owners"

Thats the difference.Dreams-Visions

Doesn't that refer to companies and products OTHER than the ones specifically mentioned? How does that prove that BioWare DIDN'T have an exclusivity agreement with Microsoft?

Look at the placement of that verbage, now go back and look at the placement of the BioWare version and the wording of the BioWare version.

Look man, I don't like this anymore than the next guy, but all things are pointing to EA owning Mass Effect.

Wait, what EXACTLY are you arguing?

Personally, I'm NOT arguing against the fact that EA owns Mass Effect. They do. I AM arguing that Microsoft and BioWare could possibly have had an exclusivity agreement for Mass Effect, at the very least for the FIRST Mass Effect (the others are up in the air), before the buyout. In which case, the buyout would not have voided that agreement unless EA dealt with Microsoft, too.

I'm just keeping the question of Mass Effect's 360-exclusivity still open. I don't think we can tell that from copyright and trademark info.

Copyright - the exclusive right to make copies, license, and otherwise exploit a literary, musical, or artistic work, whether printed, audio, video, etc.: works granted such right by law on or after January 1, 1978, are protected for the lifetime of the author or creator and for a period of 50 years after his or her death.

Trademark - A trademark is a proprietary term that is usually registered with the Patent and Trademark Office to assure its exclusive use by its owner.

Should be no more to be said.

Mass Effect is still being published by MS which covers the trilogy.

Only way to break that is for EA to buy it out from MS, which is possible but unlikely..

[QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]"The names of actual companies and products mentioned herein may be the trademarks of their respective owners"

Thats the difference.mjarantilla

Doesn't that refer to companies and products OTHER than the ones specifically mentioned? How does that prove that BioWare DIDN'T have an exclusivity agreement with Microsoft?

Look at the placement of that verbage, now go back and look at the placement of the BioWare version and the wording of the BioWare version.

Look man, I don't like this anymore than the next guy, but all things are pointing to EA owning Mass Effect.

Wait, what EXACTLY are you arguing?

Personally, I'm NOT arguing against the fact that EA owns Mass Effect. They do. I AM arguing that Microsoft and BioWare could possibly have had an exclusivity agreement for Mass Effect, at the very least for the FIRST Mass Effect (the others are up in the air), before the buyout. In which case, the buyout would not have voided that agreement unless EA dealt with Microsoft, too.

I'm just keeping the question of Mass Effect's 360-exclusivity still open. I don't think we can tell that from copyright and trademark info.

Copyright - the exclusive right to make copies, license, and otherwise exploit a literary, musical, or artistic work, whether printed, audio, video, etc.: works granted such right by law on or after January 1, 1978, are protected for the lifetime of the author or creator and for a period of 50 years after his or her death.

Trademark - A trademark is a proprietary term that is usually registered with the Patent and Trademark Office to assure its exclusive use by its owner.

Should be no more to be said.

But that has nothing to do with an exclusivity agreement, though. If an exclusivity agreement exists, then EA still has "the exclusive right to make copies, license, and otherwise exploit" Mass Effect. They just have to do it on the 360. If an exclusivity agreement exists. We dont' know if there is one or not, and copyright info cannot tell us that, because copyright only covers ownership.

My whole argument was EA owns Mass Effect, nothing more, wether there is an exclusive agreement that binds EA to keep ME on the 360, I have no idea.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]"The names of actual companies and products mentioned herein may be the trademarks of their respective owners"

Thats the difference.Squall_Griver

Doesn't that refer to companies and products OTHER than the ones specifically mentioned? How does that prove that BioWare DIDN'T have an exclusivity agreement with Microsoft?

Look at the placement of that verbage, now go back and look at the placement of the BioWare version and the wording of the BioWare version.

Look man, I don't like this anymore than the next guy, but all things are pointing to EA owning Mass Effect.

Wait, what EXACTLY are you arguing?

Personally, I'm NOT arguing against the fact that EA owns Mass Effect. They do. I AM arguing that Microsoft and BioWare could possibly have had an exclusivity agreement for Mass Effect, at the very least for the FIRST Mass Effect (the others are up in the air), before the buyout. In which case, the buyout would not have voided that agreement unless EA dealt with Microsoft, too.

I'm just keeping the question of Mass Effect's 360-exclusivity still open. I don't think we can tell that from copyright and trademark info.

Copyright - the exclusive right to make copies, license, and otherwise exploit a literary, musical, or artistic work, whether printed, audio, video, etc.: works granted such right by law on or after January 1, 1978, are protected for the lifetime of the author or creator and for a period of 50 years after his or her death.

Trademark - A trademark is a proprietary term that is usually registered with the Patent and Trademark Office to assure its exclusive use by its owner.

Should be no more to be said.

Mass Effect is still being published by MS which covers the trilogy.

Only way to break that is for EA to buy it out from MS, which is possible but unlikely..

That doesn't mean that EA can just break a previously-existing exclusivity agreement, if one did exist.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]"The names of actual companies and products mentioned herein may be the trademarks of their respective owners"

Thats the difference.Squall_Griver

Doesn't that refer to companies and products OTHER than the ones specifically mentioned? How does that prove that BioWare DIDN'T have an exclusivity agreement with Microsoft?

Look at the placement of that verbage, now go back and look at the placement of the BioWare version and the wording of the BioWare version.

Look man, I don't like this anymore than the next guy, but all things are pointing to EA owning Mass Effect.

Wait, what EXACTLY are you arguing?

Personally, I'm NOT arguing against the fact that EA owns Mass Effect. They do. I AM arguing that Microsoft and BioWare could possibly have had an exclusivity agreement for Mass Effect, at the very least for the FIRST Mass Effect (the others are up in the air), before the buyout. In which case, the buyout would not have voided that agreement unless EA dealt with Microsoft, too.

I'm just keeping the question of Mass Effect's 360-exclusivity still open. I don't think we can tell that from copyright and trademark info.

Copyright - the exclusive right to make copies, license, and otherwise exploit a literary, musical, or artistic work, whether printed, audio, video, etc.: works granted such right by law on or after January 1, 1978, are protected for the lifetime of the author or creator and for a period of 50 years after his or her death.

Trademark - A trademark is a proprietary term that is usually registered with the Patent and Trademark Office to assure its exclusive use by its owner.

Should be no more to be said.

Mass Effect is still being published by MS which covers the trilogy.

Only way to break that is for EA to buy it out from MS, which is possible but unlikely..

LOL... Well a group of fanboys just got owned who shall remain namless.

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]"The names of actual companies and products mentioned herein may be the trademarks of their respective owners"

Thats the difference.Nagidar

Doesn't that refer to companies and products OTHER than the ones specifically mentioned? How does that prove that BioWare DIDN'T have an exclusivity agreement with Microsoft?

Look at the placement of that verbage, now go back and look at the placement of the BioWare version and the wording of the BioWare version.

Look man, I don't like this anymore than the next guy, but all things are pointing to EA owning Mass Effect.

Wait, what EXACTLY are you arguing?

Personally, I'm NOT arguing against the fact that EA owns Mass Effect. They do. I AM arguing that Microsoft and BioWare could possibly have had an exclusivity agreement for Mass Effect, at the very least for the FIRST Mass Effect (the others are up in the air), before the buyout. In which case, the buyout would not have voided that agreement unless EA dealt with Microsoft, too.

I'm just keeping the question of Mass Effect's 360-exclusivity still open. I don't think we can tell that from copyright and trademark info.

Copyright - the exclusive right to make copies, license, and otherwise exploit a literary, musical, or artistic work, whether printed, audio, video, etc.: works granted such right by law on or after January 1, 1978, are protected for the lifetime of the author or creator and for a period of 50 years after his or her death.

Trademark - A trademark is a proprietary term that is usually registered with the Patent and Trademark Office to assure its exclusive use by its owner.

Should be no more to be said.

But that has nothing to do with an exclusivity agreement, though. If an exclusivity agreement exists, then EA still has "the exclusive right to make copies, license, and otherwise exploit" Mass Effect. They just have to do it on the 360. If an exclusivity agreement exists. We dont' know if there is one or not, and copyright info cannot tell us that, because copyright only covers ownership.

My whole argument was EA owns Mass Effect, nothing more, wether there is an exclusive agreement that binds EA to keep ME on the 360, I have no idea.

Exactly why I was asking half a dozen posts up, "What are you trying to argue?" I KNOW Mass Effect is owned by EA. The only thing in question is Mass Effect's exclusivity.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

Mass Effect is still being published by MS which covers the trilogy.

Only way to break that is for EA to buy it out from MS, which is possible but unlikely..

Squall_Griver

You do understand that "owner" and "publisher" are two different things? You can be the exclusive publisher of something you do not explicitly own.

[QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]"The names of actual companies and products mentioned herein may be the trademarks of their respective owners"

Thats the difference.Dreams-Visions

Doesn't that refer to companies and products OTHER than the ones specifically mentioned? How does that prove that BioWare DIDN'T have an exclusivity agreement with Microsoft?

Look at the placement of that verbage, now go back and look at the placement of the BioWare version and the wording of the BioWare version.

Look man, I don't like this anymore than the next guy, but all things are pointing to EA owning Mass Effect.

Wait, what EXACTLY are you arguing?

Personally, I'm NOT arguing against the fact that EA owns Mass Effect. They do. I AM arguing that Microsoft and BioWare could possibly have had an exclusivity agreement for Mass Effect, at the very least for the FIRST Mass Effect (the others are up in the air), before the buyout. In which case, the buyout would not have voided that agreement unless EA dealt with Microsoft, too.

I'm just keeping the question of Mass Effect's 360-exclusivity still open. I don't think we can tell that from copyright and trademark info.

Copyright - the exclusive right to make copies, license, and otherwise exploit a literary, musical, or artistic work, whether printed, audio, video, etc.: works granted such right by law on or after January 1, 1978, are protected for the lifetime of the author or creator and for a period of 50 years after his or her death.

Trademark - A trademark is a proprietary term that is usually registered with the Patent and Trademark Office to assure its exclusive use by its owner.

Should be no more to be said.

Mass Effect is still being published by MS which covers the trilogy.

Only way to break that is for EA to buy it out from MS, which is possible but unlikely..

So EA specifically mentioning wanting to purchase Bioware for Mass Effect is for the express purpose of having MS publish the game? You can bet that EA will look for a way to publish the game.

but but.....ME is the boring overrated rpg..........cows dont want itDante2710

MS b/c of prior agreement and $$$$$ retains the rights to the publishing rights for the M.E. trilogy !

Nothing more nothing less.

PS: Should E.A. also try & water down another dev. like -- damn I cant even type the name .......

but lets just say Gears 1 & 2 are MS properties !

[QUOTE="Squall_Griver"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

Mass Effect is still being published by MS which covers the trilogy.

Only way to break that is for EA to buy it out from MS, which is possible but unlikely..

Sollet

LOL... Well a group of fanboys just got owned who shall remain namless.

Are you the poster-boy of that group that got owned? Or are you also mistakenly under the impression that ownership = "teh new publisher"? :|

The game is being published by MGS.

And that is that.

[QUOTE="Squall_Griver"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

Mass Effect is still being published by MS which covers the trilogy.

Only way to break that is for EA to buy it out from MS, which is possible but unlikely..

Dreams-Visions

You do understand that "owner" and "publisher" are two different things? You can be the exclusive publisher of something you do not explicitly own.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

Mass Effect is still being published by MS which covers the trilogy.

Only way to break that is for EA to buy it out from MS, which is possible but unlikely..

Zhengi

So EA specifically mentioning wanting to purchase Bioware for Mass Effect is for the express purpose of having MS publish the game? You can bet that EA will look for a way to publish the game.

Unless they plan on buying Microsoft's exclusivity deal from them, it won't happen.

You do understand that the publisher and owner get a cut, right? Think Bioshock. EA owning the game simply means that they believe it will make money via their net % cut. They wanted a piece of the action. It doesn't mean they plan on buying Microsoft out of their contract.

[QUOTE="Sollet"][QUOTE="Squall_Griver"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

Mass Effect is still being published by MS which covers the trilogy.

Only way to break that is for EA to buy it out from MS, which is possible but unlikely..

Dreams-Visions

LOL... Well a group of fanboys just got owned who shall remain namless.

Are you the poster-boy of that group that got owned? Or are you also mistakenly under the impression that ownership = "teh new publisher"? :|

The game is being published by MGS.

And that is that.

What did I hurt your feelings or something?

Anyways can you please prove that a deal of existed to begin with? You know the deal that makes anything goes ME trilogy 360 exclusive?

I am just happy that there is a big chance that ME will be ported to the PC :)
and you cannot deny that EA will be porting it!

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Squall_Griver"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

Mass Effect is still being published by MS which covers the trilogy.

Only way to break that is for EA to buy it out from MS, which is possible but unlikely..

Squall_Griver

You do understand that "owner" and "publisher" are two different things? You can be the exclusive publisher of something you do not explicitly own.

Yes, the sequels may be multiplat, but Mass Effect itself will probably still remain exclusive.

Just becasue EA is involved doesnt mean the ps3 will get mass effect. Its kind of like Ninja Gaiden 2, which is also published by microsoft. Microsoft doesnt own Team Ninja, but its safe to say Ninja Gaiden 2 wont be on ps3.kevy619

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Sollet"][QUOTE="Squall_Griver"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

Mass Effect is still being published by MS which covers the trilogy.

Only way to break that is for EA to buy it out from MS, which is possible but unlikely..

Sollet

LOL... Well a group of fanboys just got owned who shall remain namless.

Are you the poster-boy of that group that got owned? Or are you also mistakenly under the impression that ownership = "teh new publisher"? :|

The game is being published by MGS.

And that is that.

What did I hurt your feelings or something?

Anyways can you please prove that a deal of existed to begin with? You know the deal that makes anything foes ME trilogy 360 exclusive?

I am just happy that there is a big chance that ME will be ported to the PC :)
and you cannot deny that EA will be porting it!

Of course my feelings are not hurt. It's just interesting to see people taking misinformation or no information and trying to explain and rationalize their opinions based on it. It's irritating.

To answer your question: It's a publishing agreement. That in and of itself should answer any exclusivity questions. Unless you can think of some Microsoft Game Studios titles that have appeared on a competing console.

I think the PC was a given eventually.

So if EA owns Mass Effect, there are high chances of it going multiplatform :?haris12121212

If all of you read this it dosent say who owns Mass Effect, it says Bioware owns 6 IP's. And is currently developing Mass Effect.

[QUOTE="Squall_Griver"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Squall_Griver"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

Mass Effect is still being published by MS which covers the trilogy.

Only way to break that is for EA to buy it out from MS, which is possible but unlikely..

mjarantilla

You do understand that "owner" and "publisher" are two different things? You can be the exclusive publisher of something you do not explicitly own.

Yes, the sequels may be multiplat, but Mass Effect itself will probably still remain exclusive.

Depends on the scope of the agreement. I currently don't have any reason to assume MGS doesn't have a contract for the rest. I'm sure all that will be clarified in upcoming days.

[QUOTE="Sollet"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Sollet"][QUOTE="Squall_Griver"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

Mass Effect is still being published by MS which covers the trilogy.

Only way to break that is for EA to buy it out from MS, which is possible but unlikely..

Dreams-Visions

LOL... Well a group of fanboys just got owned who shall remain namless.

Are you the poster-boy of that group that got owned? Or are you also mistakenly under the impression that ownership = "teh new publisher"? :|

The game is being published by MGS.

And that is that.

What did I hurt your feelings or something?

Anyways can you please prove that a deal of existed to begin with? You know the deal that makes anything foes ME trilogy 360 exclusive?

I am just happy that there is a big chance that ME will be ported to the PC :)
and you cannot deny that EA will be porting it!

Of course my feelings are not hurt. It's just interesting to see people taking misinformation or no information and trying to explain and rationalize their opinions based on it. It's irritating.

To answer your question: It's a publishing agreement. That in and of itself should answer any exclusivity questions. Unless you can think of some Microsoft Game Studios titles that have appeared on a competing console.

I think the PC was a given eventually.

Well I was basically just refering to the group of people that was denying the fact that a PC port where bound to happen sooner or later.... What better confirmation do you need when EA buys Bioware and gains ME :)

[QUOTE="Squall_Griver"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Squall_Griver"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

Mass Effect is still being published by MS which covers the trilogy.

Only way to break that is for EA to buy it out from MS, which is possible but unlikely..

mjarantilla

You do understand that "owner" and "publisher" are two different things? You can be the exclusive publisher of something you do not explicitly own.

Yes, the sequels may be multiplat, but Mass Effect itself will probably still remain exclusive.

[QUOTE="haris12121212"]So if EA owns Mass Effect, there are high chances of it going multiplatform :?Thigeic

If all of you read this it dosent say who owns Mass Effect, it says Bioware owns 6 IP's. And is currently developing Mass Effect.

The conference call already settled the question. EA now owns Mass Effect. The EA CEO singled it out and said it specifically.

[QUOTE="haris12121212"]So if EA owns Mass Effect, there are high chances of it going multiplatform :?Thigeic

If all of you read this it dosent say who owns Mass Effect, it says Bioware owns 6 IP's. And is currently developing Mass Effect.

From the updated article on GS:

"

[UPDATE] In a conference call with analysts after the announcement, EA executives shed some light on the motivation behind the deal. Besides the impeccable pedigree of both studios, Riccitiello said that the "acquisition fills out a gap in [EA's] genre lineup," specifically the role-playing and action adventure markets. The executive also cited BioWare's forthcoming MMORPG as a huge opportunity for "further expansion into the MMO space."

Although the implication is that the BioWare MMORPG is an original IP, Riccitiello and his associates steered clear of saying so specifically. He did say that the deal will make EA the owner of the Mass Effect, Jade Empire, Mercenaries, Full Spectrum Warrior, and Saboteur properties. The executive also said that EA "expect[s] to bring 10 franchises to market in the next few years; six of which are wholly owned." No mention was made of Dragon Age, BioWare's little-seen fantasy title.

Later, Gibeau said that number includes "many titles that have not yet been announced that we will be announcing in the near future." These include "several unannounced titles that are targeted both at the Wii and DS." The two studios' combined operations are expected to yield around four or five games each year for the next three fiscal years.

On the financial side, EA CFO Warren Jenson said that that he expects games from the two studios to generate over $300 million in annual income during EA's 2009 and 2010 fiscal years. (EA's 2009 fiscal year begins on April 1, 2008.) He later said that number would increase once the BioWare MMORPG launches "in the back half" of that period. "

Apparently, this was very recent, so I dunno what the deal is, but GS is updating as the news is rolling in, we'll see.

Well I was basically just refering to the group of people that was denying the fact that a PC port where bound to happen sooner or later.... What better confirmation do you need when EA buys Bioware and gains ME :)

Sollet

I didn't realize people were denying a PC version :?

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Squall_Griver"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

Mass Effect is still being published by MS which covers the trilogy.

Only way to break that is for EA to buy it out from MS, which is possible but unlikely..

Squall_Griver

You do understand that "owner" and "publisher" are two different things? You can be the exclusive publisher of something you do not explicitly own.

No? So Bioware being bought automatically negates Microsofts publishing agreement? If it said "Unless we get bought by another company, Microsoft will always be the publisher" if doesnt specifically state that in their contract then theres no way to change it unless theirs a renegotiation between EA and Microsoft.

Why?

I don't want EA buying out everything...

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Squall_Griver"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

You do understand that "owner" and "publisher" are two different things? You can be the exclusive publisher of something you do not explicitly own.

Squall_Griver

Yes, the sequels may be multiplat, but Mass Effect itself will probably still remain exclusive.

From what people are saying, it was always to be a trilogy and MGS has a agreement to publish all 3, regardless of who owns what. We'll see what's true and what isn't soon enough.

[QUOTE="Squall_Griver"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Squall_Griver"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

Mass Effect is still being published by MS which covers the trilogy.

Only way to break that is for EA to buy it out from MS, which is possible but unlikely..

Pro_wrestler

You do understand that "owner" and "publisher" are two different things? You can be the exclusive publisher of something you do not explicitly own.

No? So Bioware being bought automatically negates Microsofts publishing agreement? Unless it said "Unless we get bought by another company, Microsoft will always be the publisher" Unless it specifically states that in their contract then theres no way to change it unless theirs a renegotiation between EA and Microsoft.

A publishing agreement does not neccessarily mean an exclusive agreement, (Although it is usually followed by one), I could really care less either way, I'm getting these games regardless of which platform its on, just because EA bought BioWare, doesn't mean crappy games, BioWare will still be making them.

[QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

Mass Effect is still being published by MS which covers the trilogy.

Only way to break that is for EA to buy it out from MS, which is possible but unlikely..

Dreams-Visions

So EA specifically mentioning wanting to purchase Bioware for Mass Effect is for the express purpose of having MS publish the game? You can bet that EA will look for a way to publish the game.

Unless they plan on buying Microsoft's exclusivity deal from them, it won't happen.

You do understand that the publisher and owner get a cut, right? Think Bioshock. EA owning the game simply means that they believe it will make money via their net % cut. They wanted a piece of the action. It doesn't mean they plan on buying Microsoft out of their contract.

You really think that EA would be satisifed with taking a cut of the profit rather than going for the whole thing? It's quite possible they might not repurchase the publishing rights, but with the amount of money that EA spent, close to $1 billion dollars, they have an incentive to buy out the exclusivity from MS as they can make more money back by making the game multiplat.

Also, EA becomes owner of Bioware in January. I can seriously see ME being delayed as EA doesn't make any money if ME comes out this year.

A publishing agreement does not neccessarily mean an exclusive agreement, (Although it is usually followed by one), I could really care less either way, I'm getting these games regardless of which platform its on, just because EA bouth BioWare, doesn't mean crappy games, BioWare will still be making them.

Nagidar

Please name all the games you are familiar with that were published by Microsoft Game Studios, Sony Computer Entertainment or Nintendo that appeared on a competing console.

I'll wait.

So if EA owns Mass Effect, there are high chances of it going multiplatform :?haris12121212

Um MS is the publisher so the first Mass Effect at leastis not going anywhere but the PC. MS woulnt finance it without some kind of exclusive contract. Futer iterations of the series might though.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

Mass Effect is still being published by MS which covers the trilogy.

Only way to break that is for EA to buy it out from MS, which is possible but unlikely..

Zhengi

So EA specifically mentioning wanting to purchase Bioware for Mass Effect is for the express purpose of having MS publish the game? You can bet that EA will look for a way to publish the game.

Unless they plan on buying Microsoft's exclusivity deal from them, it won't happen.

You do understand that the publisher and owner get a cut, right? Think Bioshock. EA owning the game simply means that they believe it will make money via their net % cut. They wanted a piece of the action. It doesn't mean they plan on buying Microsoft out of their contract.

You really think that EA would be satisifed with taking a cut of the profit rather than going for the whole thing? It's quite possible they might not repurchase the publishing rights, but with the amount of money that EA spent, close to $1 billion dollars, they have an incentive to buy out the exclusivity from MS as they can make more money back by making the game multiplat.

Also, EA becomes owner of Bioware in January. I can seriously see ME being delayed as EA doesn't make any money if ME comes out this year.

MS would also have to accept the buyout. Remember, publishers like EA don't make major acquisitions for ONE GAME. They make them because they believe Bioware is in good hands and will make them money for many years to come. Well after the Mass Effect Trilogy is a good, distant memory.

They did not make this move just to do something strange with Mass Effect. There is undoubtely a 10-15 year plan to steadily make them money.

business isn't about the quick hit.

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

A publishing agreement does not neccessarily mean an exclusive agreement, (Although it is usually followed by one), I could really care less either way, I'm getting these games regardless of which platform its on, just because EA bouth BioWare, doesn't mean crappy games, BioWare will still be making them.

Dreams-Visions

Please name all the games you are familiar with that were published by Microsoft Game Studios, Sony Computer Entertainment or Nintendo that appeared on a competing console.

I'll wait.

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

A publishing agreement does not neccessarily mean an exclusive agreement, (Although it is usually followed by one), I could really care less either way, I'm getting these games regardless of which platform its on, just because EA bouth BioWare, doesn't mean crappy games, BioWare will still be making them.

Dreams-Visions

Please name all the games you are familiar with that were published by Microsoft Game Studios, Sony Computer Entertainment or Nintendo that appeared on a competing console.

I'll wait.

No, you are misunderstanding, people seem to think that Publishing and an Exclusivity Agreement are the same thing, when they are not, an Exclusivity Agreement is a seperate beast all together. But when a console manufacturer publishes a game, it is usually followed by an Exclusivity Agreement.

I'm not saying MS doesn't have an agreement with BioWare, I'm saying Publishing isn't the same term as Exclusivity.