EA: No Modding Tools With Battlefield 3

Apparently there will be NO modding tools for BF3

Its not something I've worked with, but this could be a turn off for a lot of users.

consoles are to blame Snyper-007

consoles are to blame Snyper-007

Don't blame consoles. Blame EA and DICE and, to some point, Activision. If it wasn't for DLC and map packs, mod tools would be in here.

consoles are to blame Snyper-007

Lol I like your style. But seriously, before PC gamers go ape**** just take a look at the documentation on why BC2 didn't have mod tools.

http://kotaku.com/5485700/bad-company-2-devs-have-nothing-but-love-for-the-modding-community

Frostbite is simply not made for modding. It is way too complex and runs on uncompressed data located on servers around the world.

BF3 would only get harder to cater for, since it is a more advanced version of FB.

In other news: MW3 will have mod tools!

PC gamers are to blame. Was a smart decision actually. The game will be better for it.

consoles are to blame Snyper-007

Global warming is to blame.

[QUOTE="Snyper-007"]consoles are to blame SAGE_OF_FIRE

[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"][QUOTE="Snyper-007"]consoles are to blame ferret-gamer

Don't see the big deal

BC2 wasn't either and it was the best online fps in the last years.

The only game that i want mod tools is Duke Nukem Forever.

Dice..you just made a big mistakelawlessx

I agree. Even consolized games like Skyrim and Rage are getting mod tools, some even day 1. Yet they can't give us mod tools for this game? Way to go DICE, there goes your 10 from me.

It kinda sucks, but i'll live.

The only game that i want mod tools is Duke Nukem Forever.

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The community is already working on that. They've been working on unpackers, ect before it was even released. Gearbox has been mute on word of mod tools.

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]Dice..you just made a big mistakeChubbyGuy40

I agree. Even consolized games like Skyrim and Rage are getting mod tools, some even day 1. Yet they can't give us mod tools for this game? Way to go DICE, there goes your 10 from me.

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]Dice..you just made a big mistakeChubbyGuy40

I agree. Even consolized games like Skyrim and Rage are getting mod tools, some even day 1. Yet they can't give us mod tools for this game? Way to go DICE, there goes your 10 from me.

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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]Dice..you just made a big mistakelawlessx

I agree. Even consolized games like Skyrim and Rage are getting mod tools, some even day 1. Yet they can't give us mod tools for this game? Way to go DICE, there goes your 10 from me.

Didn't people say that about Bad Company 2?

You think making mod tools is easy peesy? You think that ontop of that, if they release internal tools that there will even be a mod community? Don't make me laugh. Read up on the subject and don't be so uninformed. http://kotaku.com/5485700/bad-company-2-devs-have-nothing-but-love-for-the-modding-communityocstew

Didn't think that, never stated it. When you think about it, DICE does not love them that much unless it makes them money. Desert Combat was a mod and they hired that team to help create Battlefield 2, and dumped them before the game was released so they didn't get credit for it.

With the crowd Battlefield draws, yes there would be a modding community. It's absolutely stupid to think otherwise. FFS there are games that never got mod tools and still had a modding community.

Maybe in the future? I still believe in Dice. BF2 was amazingCoolSkAGuy

As long as they can sell DLC, mod tools ain't happening. This is EA.

[QUOTE="Snyper-007"]consoles are to blame Phoenix534

Don't blame consoles. Blame EA and DICE and, to some point, Activision. If it wasn't for DLC and map packs, mod tools would be in here.

Well technically the consoles are to blame. Frostbite is a console engine. While 2.0 seems like a significant revision, it is still plagued by the same problems that made frostbite 1.0 and 1.5 unable to have mod tools. Mainly due to middleware licencing and system stability issues outside of a developer environment.

Though in saying that, it's more fault of the developers for whatever poor design and architecture choices they made when making the engine.

[QUOTE="ocstew"] You think making mod tools is easy peesy? You think that ontop of that, if they release internal tools that there will even be a mod community? Don't make me laugh. Read up on the subject and don't be so uninformed. http://kotaku.com/5485700/bad-company-2-devs-have-nothing-but-love-for-the-modding-communityChubbyGuy40

Didn't think that, never stated it. When you think about it, DICE does not love them that much unless it makes them money. Desert Combat was a mod and they hired that team to help create Battlefield 2, and dumped them before the game was released so they didn't get credit for it.

With the crowd Battlefield draws, yes there would be a modding community. It's absolutely stupid to think otherwise. FFS there are games that never got mod tools and still had a modding community.

Just read the damm link. ocstew

I read it, but Frostbite 2 is a new engine. BC1 ran off FB1 and BC2 ran off Fb1.5. Why did they not fix the structure to support mod tools?

[QUOTE="CoolSkAGuy"]Maybe in the future? I still believe in Dice. BF2 was amazingPhoenix534

As long as they can sell DLC, mod tools ain't happening. This is EA.

Well...that doesn't quite make sense because of Crysis 2.

I'm not blaming consoles here. While I agree that many well known PC exclusive series are now going to consoles and not showing the true potential of the pc hardware, it is really Dice and EA to be blamed. Even Crytek released modding tools for their Cryengine 3 and that engine was on consoles too.

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[QUOTE="CoolSkAGuy"]Maybe in the future? I still believe in Dice. BF2 was amazingChubbyGuy40

As long as they can sell DLC, mod tools ain't happening. This is EA.

Well...that doesn't quite make sense because of Crysis 2.

I don't think the Crysis 2 DLC sold very well on PC. For a game like Battlefield, they have to expect any DLC to sell millions and giving players the ability to remake map packs for everyone is the worst business idea they could think of.

Damn you, consoles, damn you. [spoiler] BF3 on PS3 for me [/spoiler] mrmusicman247

Well, BF3 is going to only do well on consoles.foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Well, BF3 is going to only do well on consoles.millerlight89

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Well, BF3 is going to only do well on consoles.millerlight89

Are you? :?

[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Well, BF3 is going to only do well on consoles.TheMoreYouOwn

Are you? :?

[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Well, BF3 is going to only do well on consoles.TheMoreYouOwn

Are you? :?

Are you kidding about him kidding?

Oh noes, PC version of Battlefield 3 is now going to suck!

[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Well, BF3 is going to only do well on consoles.TheMoreYouOwn

Are you? :?

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Are you kidding :?millerlight89

Are you? :?

Are you kidding about him kidding?

Sucks for those who care about mods. EA lol.

Pre order BS, online pass BS, now no mods BS. Just sayin' :P

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[QUOTE="millerlight89"] Are you kidding :?millerlight89

Are you? :?

Hate? SW has really scarred you that deep, huh?

Wow...some of the pc gamers here...so it's suddenly DICE's fault? Do you know how hard it is to make modding tools especially with the Frostbite 2 engine and how it streams data quickly in order for it to work? It's way too complex because if they create modding tools, they must also incorporate destruction, and all of the other features that the engine has. This isn't your run-of-the-mill easy mod kind of thing. This game is turning out fantastic, there's no need to complain about modding tools. I thought it was clear that this game wasn't going to have the modding tools, but no. Now the pc gamers are going to start boycotts and complaining because they don't get to sit on the royal crown and be treated as king. There are no modding tools, and the game is fantastic. Get over it.

P.S. I'm not talking about those of you who are joking saying "it's consoles fault" :P I'm talking about the pc gamers who suddenly perceive this to be DICE's fault, call them lazy, claim that they're not gonna like it, not gonna buy the game, etc. etc.