End of gen sales results (sorry cows)

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#151 lx_theo
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[QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="White_Dreams"] The gen is over?The_Game21x

No, it ends when the consoles are discontinued. But fanboys try to proclaim whatever they wish for "ownage"

Oh get out of here. Cows are saying it's over as of the Wii U's release so they can claim a win too.

The next gen has started. The PS3/360/Wii are "last gen" now. Facts are facts.

Like I said: Fanboys. Didn't say lemmings. Don't take things so personally. Generations overlap, fyi. The gen goes until they are discontinued. The next gen still has started.
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#152 KingOfLems
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You guys are all supremely stupid for arguing over something so irrelevant and mentally-deficient. It's pretty easy: Next-gan starts when next MS and Sony systems are released. PS3 will have out-sold the 360 by then but both fall far short of the Wii. Fighting over second place is the dumbest thing. I'd rather read more posts from Saolin, that guy was pro.

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#153 lundy86_4
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How was that a big ass reply? It probably took you a minute of your time to read it. Its your fault if you felt that it was a waste or not. But I'm afraid that it is indeed you, not I, that have not understood what Wasdie meant, or at least what he POSTED. He said: "That alone is larger than gaming was 15 years ago." Basically, that statement is CLAIMING that the last place console of this generation (70 million units) is larger (larger in terms of sales) ALONE was bigger than ALL OF GAMING COMBINED 15 years. He is indicating that the last place of this gen, was bigger than the FIRST PLACE, SECOND PLACE and the LAST PLACE of the generation 15 years ago. Honestly, read his statement again. Maybe that's not what he meant, but that IS what his statement is inferring. Mozelleple112

It is a big ass reply.

I tell you what, why don't you ask him. Send him a message.

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#154 spiderluck
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wow....this thread will be so sought out in archives when next quarterlies are released....almost worth the wait...Oh and what do pineapple-mozarella and eddie all have in common?? give up?...The combined IQ of a houseplant

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#155 AznbkdX
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I'll go by the 2 percent rule and the "not counting **** until we get real solid numbers" rule.

Oh and gens overlap like said above. A gen may have started but doesn't mean the last has ended at least in the tech world.

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#156 _Cadbury_
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PS3s and 360s are still being sold o.o If nintendos Wii sales fizzled out then it sucks to be them, but that doesn't mean nothing counts anymore for the other consoles.
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#157 White_Dreams
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[QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="White_Dreams"] The gen is over?The_Game21x

No, it ends when the consoles are discontinued. But fanboys try to proclaim whatever they wish for "ownage"

Oh get out of here. Cows are saying it's over as of the Wii U's release so they can claim a win too.

The next gen has started. The PS3/360/Wii are "last gen" now. Facts are facts.

Certainly doesn't feel last gen, the future consoles arent even announced or out yet.

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#158 superclocked
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You guys are all supremely stupid for arguing over something so irrelevant and mentally-deficient. It's pretty easy: Next-gan starts when next MS and Sony systems are released. PS3 will have out-sold the 360 by then but both fall far short of the Wii. Fighting over second place is the dumbest thing. I'd rather read more posts from Saolin, that guy was pro.

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#159 Nonstop-Madness
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tbh, your being incredibly bias. It doesn't matter if PS3 sales are from November and the 360's are from October because if you remember, the 360 launch about a year ahead of the PS3. The starting line doesn't matter but the finishing line matters ? I also think many would agree that the generation only really ends when all next gen consoles release.
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#160 xhawk27
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You guys are all supremely stupid for arguing over something so irrelevant and mentally-deficient. It's pretty easy: Next-gan starts when next MS and Sony systems are released. PS3 will have out-sold the 360 by then but both fall far short of the Wii. Fighting over second place is the dumbest thing. I'd rather read more posts from Saolin, that guy was pro.

KingOfLems

Not in North America, the PS3 is never outselling the 360. Sorry but the 360 is the best gaming console ever made. Multiplat games prove this since they are far superior on the 360.

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#161 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="lx_theo"] No, it ends when the consoles are discontinued. But fanboys try to proclaim whatever they wish for "ownage"White_Dreams

Oh get out of here. Cows are saying it's over as of the Wii U's release so they can claim a win too.

The next gen has started. The PS3/360/Wii are "last gen" now. Facts are facts.

Certainly doesn't feel last gen, the future consoles arent even announced or out yet.

That's nice.

The Wii U is technically a next-gen console so the others, by that same logic, are last gen now.

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#162 caryslan2
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Does any of this even have a point? I keep saying this over and over. The Seventh Generation is not suddenly over just because of the Wii U. Microsoft and Sony are still supporting the Xbox 360 and PS3 and those two systems remain the main consoles of their respective generations.

Fanboys are arguing over who sold more and are in a rush to crown a leader. But I have to ask, why the rush? The generation is not over. The 360, PS3, and Wii are all still being sold on the market, and two of the systems will likely have an excellent holiday season.

Does it really matter who's in second or third place at this point? The numbers will change after the holidays and those two systems have at least another year to go.

Is this some system wars rule? How does it make any sense to start handing out trophies for a race that's not even finished. Hell, there's not even a clear market leader and a massive gap between the second and third place consoles this generation. At least the PS1 and PS2 had a massive lead that would have been nearly impossible to lose.

I'm not bashing anyone, but I'm just really confused. We still know nothing about the Xbox 720 and the PS4, and the seventh generation systems are still being supported as the main consoles of two companies. Why the rush to declare a winner when two systems are in a close race for second place, and the market leader has been slowing down in sales.

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#163 lx_theo
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[QUOTE="White_Dreams"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Oh get out of here. Cows are saying it's over as of the Wii U's release so they can claim a win too.

The next gen has started. The PS3/360/Wii are "last gen" now. Facts are facts.

The_Game21x

Certainly doesn't feel last gen, the future consoles arent even announced or out yet.

That's nice.

The Wii U is technically a next-gen console so the others, by that same logic, are last gen now.

Again, generations overlap. Both of you stop being stupid please.
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#164 White_Dreams
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[QUOTE="White_Dreams"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Oh get out of here. Cows are saying it's over as of the Wii U's release so they can claim a win too.

The next gen has started. The PS3/360/Wii are "last gen" now. Facts are facts.

The_Game21x

Certainly doesn't feel last gen, the future consoles arent even announced or out yet.

That's nice.

The Wii U is technically a next-gen console so the others, by that same logic, are last gen now.

Okay, who makes these rules.

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#165 GunSmith1_basic
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we need a lem and cow, each with the dedication of Charizard, to each make a super long post detailing the logic for their favorite system being the winner of 2nd place
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#166 lx_theo
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="White_Dreams"]

Certainly doesn't feel last gen, the future consoles arent even announced or out yet.

White_Dreams

That's nice.

The Wii U is technically a next-gen console so the others, by that same logic, are last gen now.

Okay, who makes these rules.

Fanboys choose whatever rules suit their purpose. It'll change as soon as it doesn't.
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#167 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="White_Dreams"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

That's nice.

The Wii U is technically a next-gen console so the others, by that same logic, are last gen now.

lx_theo

Okay, who makes these rules.

Fanboys choose whatever rules suit their purpose. It'll change as soon as it doesn't.

Fanboys didn't make it up. That's how it's always been. :|

Try researching first, you avoid putting your foot in your mouth that way.

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#168 White_Dreams
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[QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="White_Dreams"]Okay, who makes these rules.

The_Game21x

Fanboys choose whatever rules suit their purpose. It'll change as soon as it doesn't.

Fanboys didn't make it up. That's how it's always been. :|

You have successfully linked to a wiki article but have not explained how the gen is over.
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#169 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="lx_theo"] Fanboys choose whatever rules suit their purpose. It'll change as soon as it doesn't.White_Dreams

Fanboys didn't make it up. That's how it's always been. :|

You have successfully linked to a wiki article but have not explained how the gen is over.

I said the PS3/360/Wii were last gen, which my link proves.

Keep up.

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#170 spiderluck
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we need a lem and cow, each with the dedication of Charizard, to each make a super long post detailing the logic for their favorite system being the winner of 2nd placeGunSmith1_basic
The answer is rather simple ...Find someone who knows absolutely nothing about videogames and ask them the following question....There are two competing companies presently in the marketplace and one company has claimed sales of 70 million as of mid September 2012 ...The other company claims sales of 70 million as of mid November 2012...Given this information which of these two companies has sold more by November 17th 2012 ?

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#171 White_Dreams
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[QUOTE="White_Dreams"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Fanboys didn't make it up. That's how it's always been. :|

The_Game21x

You have successfully linked to a wiki article but have not explained how the gen is over.

I said the PS3/360/Wii were last gen, which my link proves.

Keep up.

okay, so you admit you were wrong talking about the ps3/360/wii gen being over?
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#172 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="White_Dreams"] You have successfully linked to a wiki article but have not explained how the gen is over.White_Dreams

I said the PS3/360/Wii were last gen, which my link proves.

Keep up.

okay, so you admit you were wrong talking about the ps3/360/wii gen being over?

As far as I'm concerned, it is but others will disagree.

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#173 superclocked
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[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]we need a lem and cow, each with the dedication of Charizard, to each make a super long post detailing the logic for their favorite system being the winner of 2nd placespiderluck

The answer is rather simple ...Find someone who knows absolutely nothing about videogames and ask them the following question....There are two competing companies presently in the marketplace and one company has claimed sales of 70 million as of mid September 2012 ...The other company claims sales of 70 million as of mid November 2012...Given this information which of these two companies has sold more by November 17th 2012 ?

As much sense as that makes, cows will still claim otherwise...
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#174 xhawk27
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[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]we need a lem and cow, each with the dedication of Charizard, to each make a super long post detailing the logic for their favorite system being the winner of 2nd placespiderluck

The answer is rather simple ...Find someone who knows absolutely nothing about videogames and ask them the following question....There are two competing companies presently in the marketplace and one company has claimed sales of 70 million as of mid September 2012 ...The other company claims sales of 70 million as of mid November 2012...Given this information which of these two companies has sold more by November 17th 2012 ?

The one that has the lastest date? :?

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#175 spiderluck
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[QUOTE="spiderluck"]

[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]we need a lem and cow, each with the dedication of Charizard, to each make a super long post detailing the logic for their favorite system being the winner of 2nd placexhawk27

The answer is rather simple ...Find someone who knows absolutely nothing about videogames and ask them the following question....There are two competing companies presently in the marketplace and one company has claimed sales of 70 million as of mid September 2012 ...The other company claims sales of 70 million as of mid November 2012...Given this information which of these two companies has sold more by November 17th 2012 ?

The one that has the lastest date? :?

Lol...your honorary cow certificate is in the mail....:D

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#176 Masenkoe
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Thread # 1847834 on this subject.

My feels?

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#177 rjdofu
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Think of it as a normal race, 3 people racing, 1 finish first, do we stop the race immediately and determine the price based on the distance between the other 2? No, the other 2, even though they've lost, still have to race until the end. Nintendo finish the race first, and move to the next round. MS & Sony both lose the race, but they're still running. Until the next PS4 & Xbox released, the race between MS & Sony aren't over. That being said, it's a lost for Sony this gen & a success for both MS & Nintendo, regardless what place they ended up
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#178 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]1. The gen is not over until all this gen consoles are discontinued. 2. All companies use shipped numbers (is that really so hard to understand?)NirdBerd

What about the PS2? That has't even BEEN discontinued yet and it's 2012. 6th gen isn't over? :roll:

Yep it isn't over. If a 6th gen console is still active then the 6th gen is still active. Common sense really. Gens has always overlapped.
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#180 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="NirdBerd"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]1. The gen is not over until all this gen consoles are discontinued. 2. All companies use shipped numbers (is that really so hard to understand?)kuraimen

What about the PS2? That has't even BEEN discontinued yet and it's 2012. 6th gen isn't over? :roll:

Yep it isn't over. If a 6th gen console is still active then the 6th gen is still active. Common sense really. Gens has always overlapped.

To be fair, you assumed this. In fact, you asked for written rules the last time I questioned it... Where are the written rules regarding your post?

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#181 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="NirdBerd"]

What about the PS2? That has't even BEEN discontinued yet and it's 2012. 6th gen isn't over? :roll:

lundy86_4

Yep it isn't over. If a 6th gen console is still active then the 6th gen is still active. Common sense really. Gens has always overlapped.

To be fair, you assumed this. In fact, you asked for written rules the last time I questioned it... Where are the written rules regarding your post?

I asked written rules for the metagame since you said it was a metagame rule. I said I was using common sense.
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#182 ShadowMoses900
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I don't care who sells more, the PS3 is still my favorite system this gen.

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#183 lundy86_4
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I asked written rules for the metagame since you said it was a metagame rule. I said I was using common sense.kuraimen

So, I take it that your statement wasn not in reference to the metagame, that is played in System Wars in any way?

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#184 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]I asked written rules for the metagame since you said it was a metagame rule. I said I was using common sense.lundy86_4

So, I take it that your statement wasn not in reference to the metagame, that is played in System Wars in any way?

Not really the metagame is completely broken. But still if people want to use the metagame at least use established rules and don't change the rules for convenience.
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#185 lundy86_4
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Not really the metagame is completely broken. But still if people want to use the metagame at least use established rules and don't change the rules for convenience.kuraimen

To what, exactly, are you referring?

Who changed the rules for convenience, and what is your evidence?

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#186 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Not really the metagame is completely broken. But still if people want to use the metagame at least use established rules and don't change the rules for convenience.lundy86_4

To what, exactly, are you referring?

Who changed the rules for convenience, and what is your evidence?

There's nothing that says the gen is over when the first next gen console releases. For me that's desperate lems grasping at straws to avoid counting the PS3's next year since the PS3 will surpass the 360 comfortably by then. They choose to renounce all trace of logic to turn that silly little game in their favor.
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#187 lundy86_4
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There's nothing that says the gen is over when the first next gen console releases. For me that's desperate lems grasping at straws to avoid counting the PS3's next year since the PS3 will surpass the 360 comfortably by then. They choose to renounce all trace of logic to turn that silly little game in their favor.kuraimen

However, there's nothing to say that the gen continues.

Naturally, it does outside of System Wars, but System Wars has never been one for acknowledging what happen in the real world (in terms of the Metagame). Hell look at the Metacritic thread being shot down...

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#188 AmazonTreeBoa
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I am a hermit, not a cow. I do own a PS3 though and from my view, I see no reason for cows to care about sells. I know my experience hasn't changed any with my PS3 due to the sells.
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#189 Karnage108
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Not really the metagame is completely broken. But still if people want to use the metagame at least use established rules and don't change the rules for convenience.kuraimen

To what, exactly, are you referring?

Who changed the rules for convenience, and what is your evidence?

There's nothing that says the gen is over when the first next gen console releases. For me that's desperate lems grasping at straws to avoid counting the PS3's next year since the PS3 will surpass the 360 comfortably by then. They choose to renounce all trace of logic to turn that silly little game in their favor.

Since you speak on behalf of cows in this pathetic argument, when should next gen start (and why exactly?)? After 360 crushes the ps3 in Christmas sales?

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#190 KarateeeChop
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sometimes i feel like trying to talk logic to a cow only worsens their symptoms of delusion, so i'll just leave this quote here.

"Arguing with a Cow is like playing Chess with a Pigeon, it will knock down all the pieces , crap on the board and then run back to the flock proclaiming victory..." -Bruce_Benzing

:lol:

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#191 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

To what, exactly, are you referring?

Who changed the rules for convenience, and what is your evidence?

Karnage108

There's nothing that says the gen is over when the first next gen console releases. For me that's desperate lems grasping at straws to avoid counting the PS3's next year since the PS3 will surpass the 360 comfortably by then. They choose to renounce all trace of logic to turn that silly little game in their favor.

Since you speak on behalf of cows in this pathetic argument, when should next gen start (and why exactly?)? After 360 crushes the ps3 in Christmas sales?

The new gen starts with the WiiU the 7th gen continues until all consoles are discontinued. Again common sense. Gens have always overlapped.
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#192 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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PS3 isn't first place? What is this heresy? :x

I guess I'll just have to make due with my last place console now.

Poor old me, I'm suffering from all the quality exclusives Sony's throwing at my way :P. I'm drowning in a pool of games :o, I guess I'm not privilidged enough to swim in a pool of sales charts like you priviledged Wii and 360 folks ;).

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#193 iHarlequin
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Am I missing something? If I'm not mistaken, there are still games on their way to the current gen consoles, so why do I see "This gen is over/finished." messages?meconate

The Sega Genesis still has games being made for it (google Pier Solar). Obviously current generation.

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#194 kingtito
Member since 2003 • 11775 Posts

PS3 isn't first place? What is this heresy? :x

I guess I'll just have to make due with my last place console now.

Poor old me, I'm suffering from all the quality exclusives Sony's throwing at my way :P. I'm drowning in a pool of games :o, I guess I'm not privilidged enough to swim in a pool of sales charts like you priviledged Wii and 360 folks ;).

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No it's not anywhere near 1st place in anything. Games are subjective and if you want to count the amount of games, then the 360 has more. So to answer your question, no the PS3 is NOT in 1st
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#195 kuraimen
Member since 2010 • 28078 Posts

[QUOTE="meconate"]Am I missing something? If I'm not mistaken, there are still games on their way to the current gen consoles, so why do I see "This gen is over/finished." messages?iHarlequin

The Sega Genesis still has games being made for it (google Pier Solar). Obviously current generation.

The Sega Genesis is discontinued the 360 and PS3 are not.
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#196 HaloPimp978
Member since 2005 • 7329 Posts

I have all three so I guess that means I win then :P

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#197 Gxgear
Member since 2003 • 10425 Posts

It's amazing how hard people are taking this.

This gen may be technically over, but at this rate PS3 is still going to surpass 360 in the end.

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#198 Chutebox
Member since 2007 • 51583 Posts

Actual results:

  1. Wii
  2. PS3/360

Official numbers peg 70 million for both 360/PS3. Whilst reasonable to assume MS shipped 360s within that 6-week (odd) period, there are no numbers, thus no evidence.

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I thought Sony combined the last numbers? Either way, consoles are still selling so it is stupid to try and say it is over already.
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#199 Mozelleple112
Member since 2011 • 11293 Posts

sometimes i feel like trying to talk logic to a cow only worsens their symptoms of delusion, so i'll just leave this quote here.

"Arguing with a Cow is like playing Chess with a Pigeon, it will knock down all the pieces , crap on the board and then run back to the flock proclaiming victory..." -Bruce_Benzing

:lol:

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THat's a brilliant quote that perfectly fits the dumb lemmings like yourself, loosingends and johnny
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#200 MonsieurX
Member since 2008 • 39858 Posts

I don't care who sells more, the PS3 is still my favorite system this gen.

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