Eternal Sonata is not Multiplat! Get over it.

"In fact, the Fabula Nova Crystallis Final Fantasy 13 Project isnt just limited to three titles - there are many different aspects. In terms of the formats we're reaching , as well, it's not simply exclusive to the PS3 and mobile phones. In Latin, Fabula Nova Crystallis means "New Crystal Story" and we're using that as a base for the project, but there are many characters and legends branching off from this main story and universe. Its a huge project"

http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/image.php?image=media/scans/opmaus/03.jpg

"In fact, the Fabula Nova Crystallis Final Fantasy 13 Project isnt just limited to three titles - there are many different aspects. In terms of the formats we're reaching , as well, it's not simply exclusive to the PS3 and mobile phones. In Latin, Fabula Nova Crystallis means "New Crystal Story" and we're using that as a base for the project, but there are many characters and legends branching off from this main story and universe. Its a huge project"

flashattackfina

There's a new FF13 named Final Fantasy Hare----sis 13? Something like that, there's even a logo for it.

For all we know that could end up on the 360, or PS3+360, or Wii. However, I doubt that the main game will end up on another platform. FFversus? I'm not so sure about that. 

"In fact, the Fabula Nova Crystallis Final Fantasy 13 Project isnt just limited to three titles - there are many different aspects. In terms of the formats we're reaching , as well, it's not simply exclusive to the PS3 and mobile phones. In Latin, Fabula Nova Crystallis means "New Crystal Story" and we're using that as a base for the project, but there are many characters and legends branching off from this main story and universe. Its a huge project"

http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/image.php?image=media/scans/opmaus/03.jpg

flashattackfina

Already posted that :P  

[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

[QUOTE="flashattackfina"]greg they stated that the ff 13 Fabula crystal project is not exclusive is not only ps3 think about why would they announce a game that suppose to multi without the mentioning the system zzzaaa

Um, where? Read the first paragraph, it spells it out right there.

In news that is sure to rock the gaming world it has been confirmed that Final Fantasy XIII, the blockbuster RPG highly anticipated by millions of fans of the series, will not be an exclusive game for the PlayStation 3 console.PS3Center Article

Oh but they did. What else is the "Fabula Nova Crystallis Final Fantasy 13 project is not limited to 3 games" Followed by "Are not just exclusive to the PS3 and mobile phones" means? :?

Once again.. The website !@#$ed up. Read the interview, I posted a link to the scan. 

prove

[QUOTE="zzzaaa"][QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

[QUOTE="flashattackfina"]greg they stated that the ff 13 Fabula crystal project is not exclusive is not only ps3 think about why would they announce a game that suppose to multi without the mentioning the system Ultimas_Blade

Um, where? Read the first paragraph, it spells it out right there.

In news that is sure to rock the gaming world it has been confirmed that Final Fantasy XIII, the blockbuster RPG highly anticipated by millions of fans of the series, will not be an exclusive game for the PlayStation 3 console.PS3Center Article

Oh but they did. What else is the "Fabula Nova Crystallis Final Fantasy 13 project is not limited to 3 games" Followed by "Are not just exclusive to the PS3 and mobile phones" means? :?

Once again.. The website !@#$ed up. Read the interview, I posted a link to the scan.

PS3center used that article as their "information. I already told you, that I agree with you about the SCE president saying they will discuss it, but the PS3center article was totally wrong.. 

[QUOTE="zzzaaa"][QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

[QUOTE="flashattackfina"]greg they stated that the ff 13 Fabula crystal project is not exclusive is not only ps3 think about why would they announce a game that suppose to multi without the mentioning the system Ultimas_Blade

Um, where? Read the first paragraph, it spells it out right there.

In news that is sure to rock the gaming world it has been confirmed that Final Fantasy XIII, the blockbuster RPG highly anticipated by millions of fans of the series, will not be an exclusive game for the PlayStation 3 console.PS3Center Article

Oh but they did. What else is the "Fabula Nova Crystallis Final Fantasy 13 project is not limited to 3 games" Followed by "Are not just exclusive to the PS3 and mobile phones" means? :?

Once again.. The website !@#$ed up. Read the interview, I posted a link to the scan.

April 2007... When did Sony say it was under discussion? Which could also mean they're taking precautions to keep FFXIII exclusive instead of letting it go.  

That article isn't even discussing FFXIII exclusivity.  And it is older than the PS3Center article.

There is an article on Gamespot AND a PS3 fansite, if anything my evidence is more specific and plentiful.

On March 22, 2007Gamespot reported that Sony Computer Entertainment France President Georges Fornay cast doubt that the title will be PlayStation 3 exclusive. In an interview with Les Dernières Nouvelles d'Alsace, a French newspaper, he said that the development costs of games have exploded, and it has become more difficult to have platform-exclusive games, outside of their own games. Referring to Final Fantasy XIII, he mentions that its exclusivity is in discussion.[16] 

from wikipedia

now that above a few posts about to look at the scans apri 2007

[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"][QUOTE="zzzaaa"][QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

[QUOTE="flashattackfina"]greg they stated that the ff 13 Fabula crystal project is not exclusive is not only ps3 think about why would they announce a game that suppose to multi without the mentioning the system -Pale

Um, where? Read the first paragraph, it spells it out right there.

In news that is sure to rock the gaming world it has been confirmed that Final Fantasy XIII, the blockbuster RPG highly anticipated by millions of fans of the series, will not be an exclusive game for the PlayStation 3 console.PS3Center Article

Oh but they did. What else is the "Fabula Nova Crystallis Final Fantasy 13 project is not limited to 3 games" Followed by "Are not just exclusive to the PS3 and mobile phones" means? :?

Once again.. The website !@#$ed up. Read the interview, I posted a link to the scan.

April 2007... When did Sony say it was under discussion? Which could also mean they're taking precautions to keep FFXIII exclusive instead of letting it go.  

Sony Computer Entertainment France president Georges Fornay

Motomu Toriyama of Square Enix

That article isn't even discussing FFXIII exclusivity. And it is older than the PS3Center article.

There is an article on Gamespot AND a PS3 fansite, if anything my evidence is more specific and plentiful.

Ultimas_Blade

**smashes head into wall** 

We just cant get through to fanboys can we? Im gona just stop trying now. 

[QUOTE="-Pale"][QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"][QUOTE="zzzaaa"][QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

[QUOTE="flashattackfina"]greg they stated that the ff 13 Fabula crystal project is not exclusive is not only ps3 think about why would they announce a game that suppose to multi without the mentioning the system Ultimas_Blade

Um, where? Read the first paragraph, it spells it out right there.

In news that is sure to rock the gaming world it has been confirmed that Final Fantasy XIII, the blockbuster RPG highly anticipated by millions of fans of the series, will not be an exclusive game for the PlayStation 3 console.PS3Center Article

Oh but they did. What else is the "Fabula Nova Crystallis Final Fantasy 13 project is not limited to 3 games" Followed by "Are not just exclusive to the PS3 and mobile phones" means? :?

Once again.. The website !@#$ed up. Read the interview, I posted a link to the scan.

April 2007... When did Sony say it was under discussion? Which could also mean they're taking precautions to keep FFXIII exclusive instead of letting it go.

Sony Computer Entertainment France president Georges Fornay

Motomu Toriyama of Square Enix

That PS3 center article got their info from that scan. They just misinterpretted it. Just stop posting that. I agree with the SCEF president link though. 

[QUOTE="-Pale"][QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"][QUOTE="zzzaaa"][QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

[QUOTE="flashattackfina"]greg they stated that the ff 13 Fabula crystal project is not exclusive is not only ps3 think about why would they announce a game that suppose to multi without the mentioning the system Ultimas_Blade

Um, where? Read the first paragraph, it spells it out right there.

In news that is sure to rock the gaming world it has been confirmed that Final Fantasy XIII, the blockbuster RPG highly anticipated by millions of fans of the series, will not be an exclusive game for the PlayStation 3 console.PS3Center Article

Oh but they did. What else is the "Fabula Nova Crystallis Final Fantasy 13 project is not limited to 3 games" Followed by "Are not just exclusive to the PS3 and mobile phones" means? :?

Once again.. The website !@#$ed up. Read the interview, I posted a link to the scan.

April 2007... When did Sony say it was under discussion? Which could also mean they're taking precautions to keep FFXIII exclusive instead of letting it go.

Sony Computer Entertainment France president Georges Fornay

Motomu Toriyama of Square Enix

Where's Toriyama's quote? What did he say? 

[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

That article isn't even discussing FFXIII exclusivity. And it is older than the PS3Center article.

There is an article on Gamespot AND a PS3 fansite, if anything my evidence is more specific and plentiful.

zzzaaa

**smashes head into wall** 

We just cant get through to fanboys can we? Im gona just stop trying now. 

You should not label me a fanboy.  I'm not making any rash decisions and I am taking ALL evidence into consideration. Take a look at yourself before judging, BTW

Really now, is there anyone here that ACTUALLY believes FF13 will be on PS3 only, despite knowing thje huge costs of developing such a next gen title, the slow PS3 sales, the huge 360 attachment rate and install base, the fact that Sony probably failed to keep it excluisve otherwise they would advertise it as hell by now ?

As things are now, FF13 coming only on PS3 is rather impossible, but i think will be timed excluisve to PS3

greg_splicer you can't compare now to 08 when ff 13 outflashattackfina

Of course you are right, 360 user base will be 2x at that time, 20.000.000 or more

Do not forget that FF13 is the first game to move PS3 consoles, so the sales up to that time will be far less, when 2007 is full of games that will move 360 consoles, making the PS3-360 gap HUGE by the time FF13 arrives, Halo 3, Bioshock, Mass Effect,Fable 2, Cry On, Infinite Undiscovery, Too Human, Two Worlds, Eternal Sonata, Sacred 2 are all system sellers that will move 360 hugly forward

Stop saying FFXIII is coming to the 360, silly kids. Endfinal

If you say so ... i guess you should tell Square too, that should really loose 3-4 million sales of FF13 on 360, bringing them a profit of 3mill x 40$ = 120.000.000$

[QUOTE="Endfinal"]Stop saying FFXIII is coming to the 360, silly kids. greg_splicer

If you say so ... i guess you should tell Square too, that should really loose 3-4 million sales of FF13 on 360, bringing them a profit of 3mill x 40$ = 120.000.000$

Since when are games $40? :shock:

Just wait til the game comes out, we will know if it is exclusive by then for sure. 

[QUOTE="greg_splicer"]

[QUOTE="Endfinal"]Stop saying FFXIII is coming to the 360, silly kids. asdasd

If you say so ... i guess you should tell Square too, that should really loose 3-4 million sales of FF13 on 360, bringing them a profit of 3mill x 40$ = 120.000.000$

Since when are games $40? :shock:

Just wait til the game comes out, we will know if it is exclusive by then for sure. 

40$ would be the profit

And we will not know of the game is timed exclusive, night come later on  360

All in all, even if the profit from a 360 version is as big as PS3 one, it is still double the proft for them, and as things are in REALITY, would be 3x the profit from that game

Any other spin off for 360 would sell zero, and they know that well by now

it's not multiplat, but that gameplay I saw didn't make me think Cows should be jealous either.Dreams-Visions

BTW I'm talking about the more rabid Cows....

hey just like i said earlier in this thread. Square-enix already said that Xbox 360 with its crappy DVD drive and crappy Core unit will hinder the game.

just like Kojima said about MGS 4. so don't get your hopes so high, lemmings.

Lemmings keep saying FFXIII is going Multiplat but they have good reason to!

You must have missed the "has substantial evidence behind it from the Sony Computer Entertainment France president Georges Fornay AND Final Fantasy XIII directorMotomu Toriyama."

Ultimas_Blade

that's not any kind of evidence 

[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

Lemmings keep saying FFXIII is going Multiplat but they have good reason to!

You must have missed the "has substantial evidence behind it from the Sony Computer Entertainment France president Georges Fornay AND Final Fantasy XIII directorMotomu Toriyama."

SambaLele

that's not any kind of evidence 

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]it's not multiplat, but that gameplay I saw didn't make me think Cows should be jealous either.Ultimas_Blade

BTW I'm talking about the more rabid Cows....

yea I know...but did you see the gameplay on the 1UP game videos site?  "meh" is how to best describe it, IMO.  but I could be wrong. 

hey just like i said earlier in this thread. Square-enix already said that Xbox 360 with its crappy DVD drive and crappy Core unit will hinder the game.

just like Kojima said about MGS 4. so don't get your hopes so high, lemmings.

Game13a13y

Crappy core?  Really you can't be serious.  Sure, the Cell is nothing to scoff at, but that doesn't reduce the Xenon to trash.  The Xenon is also a very powerful and capable core and, to date, there isn't one gaming example that proves the Cell can completely thrash the Xenon. Really, many articles have been written stating that the Cell and Xenon don't have such a large power gap in the first place.

[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"]

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]it's not multiplat, but that gameplay I saw didn't make me think Cows should be jealous either.Dreams-Visions

BTW I'm talking about the more rabid Cows....

yea I know...but did you see the gameplay on the 1UP game videos site?  "meh" is how to best describe it, IMO.  but I could be wrong. 

FFXIII and FFversusXIII were announced as exclusives at E3.

They remain that way until future confirmation. Those comments by SCE were referring to Fabula Nova Crystallis FFXIII the series, not the individual game FFXIII and FFvXIII.

[QUOTE="Game13a13y"] hey just like i said earlier in this thread. Square-enix already said that Xbox 360 with its crappy DVD drive and crappy Core unit will hinder the game.

just like Kojima said about MGS 4. so don't get your hopes so high, lemmings.

Ultimas_Blade

Crappy core?  Really you can't be serious.  Sure, the Cell is nothing to scoff at, but that doesn't reduce the Xenon to trash.  The Xenon is also a very powerful and capable core and, to date, there isn't one gaming example that proves the Cell can completely thrash the Xenon. Really, many articles have been written stating that the Cell and Xenon don't have such a large power gap in the first place.

argh... how about you in you have to travel back and forth between cities in FF, do you want to load a new disc in every time? and do you know how much space voice acting takes up the disc? sure they can cramp everything in DVD, but you probably can't have high def as crispy anymore, also the harddrive less Core unit is the real issue here. how can developers make games using online downloadable fun stuffs anymore?

and about power between Cell and Xenon, make no mistake. many developers said that cell is more powerful already. the only ground you can rely on is the GPU front. which nobody knows which console has the advantage yet.

[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"][QUOTE="Game13a13y"] hey just like i said earlier in this thread. Square-enix already said that Xbox 360 with its crappy DVD drive and crappy Core unit will hinder the game.

just like Kojima said about MGS 4. so don't get your hopes so high, lemmings.

Game13a13y

Crappy core?  Really you can't be serious.  Sure, the Cell is nothing to scoff at, but that doesn't reduce the Xenon to trash.  The Xenon is also a very powerful and capable core and, to date, there isn't one gaming example that proves the Cell can completely thrash the Xenon. Really, many articles have been written stating that the Cell and Xenon don't have such a large power gap in the first place.

argh... how about you in you have to travel back and forth between cities in FF, do you want to load a new disc in every time? and do you know how much space voice acting takes up the disc? sure they can cramp everything in DVD, but you probably can't have high def as crispy anymore, also the harddrive less Core unit is the real issue here. how can developers make games using online downloadable fun stuffs anymore?

and about power between Cell and Xenon, make no mistake. many developers said that cell is more powerful already. the only ground you can rely on is the GPU front. which nobody knows which console has the advantage yet.

Oblivion has heaps of piles of voice acting and dosnt even fill a standard DVD let alone a DVD9

FFXIII and FFversusXIII were announced as exclusives at E3.

They remain that way until future confirmation. Those comments by SCE were referring to Fabula Nova Crystallis FFXIII the series, not the individual game FFXIII and FFvXIII.

fuzzysquash

But that isn't even why I started this thread, it was because of all the claims set on Eternal Sonata as a PS3 title.  The snafu at ESRB was consider an ominous sign from the ****ing gods that Eternal Sonata was coming to the PS3 when obviously that wasn't the case.  I just brought up FFXIII exclusivity question because, really, if Eternal Sonata was suddenly a PS3 title from information that originated from the frickin' ESRB, then it isn't too hard to agree that FFXIII since it was coming the project lead as well as a Sony rep.

This is thread is still going on? Stop beating the dead horse people. Get over it. We may hear something more about the status of FFXIII at the SE party here in the next week or so. So just chill and wait. Nothings absolute until SE says so.

[QUOTE="Game13a13y"][QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"][QUOTE="Game13a13y"] hey just like i said earlier in this thread. Square-enix already said that Xbox 360 with its crappy DVD drive and crappy Core unit will hinder the game.

just like Kojima said about MGS 4. so don't get your hopes so high, lemmings.

Marka1700

Crappy core?  Really you can't be serious.  Sure, the Cell is nothing to scoff at, but that doesn't reduce the Xenon to trash.  The Xenon is also a very powerful and capable core and, to date, there isn't one gaming example that proves the Cell can completely thrash the Xenon. Really, many articles have been written stating that the Cell and Xenon don't have such a large power gap in the first place.

argh... how about you in you have to travel back and forth between cities in FF, do you want to load a new disc in every time? and do you know how much space voice acting takes up the disc? sure they can cramp everything in DVD, but you probably can't have high def as crispy anymore, also the harddrive less Core unit is the real issue here. how can developers make games using online downloadable fun stuffs anymore?

and about power between Cell and Xenon, make no mistake. many developers said that cell is more powerful already. the only ground you can rely on is the GPU front. which nobody knows which console has the advantage yet.

Oblivion has heaps of piles of voice acting and dosnt even fill a standard DVD let alone a DVD9

here is what the developt of GTA 4 has to say back in 2004:

One area that I'm really involved in is creating the audio assets - I think we'll have well over 400 speaking parts, which is insanity. The amount of studio time we're having to get through and the amount of writing that's involved, we're more worried about getting it on the disc. That's our initial challenge. We're having to go to dual layer DVD because we've already filled up a full DVD.

He sums it up:

The danger is currently the storage medium (DVD), and one we thing we're all praying for in the next round of hardware is that they don't just go, 'It's DVD again'.

here's a link just in case if you think i'm talking smack out of my pine hole.

http://ps3blog.net/

[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"][QUOTE="Game13a13y"] hey just like i said earlier in this thread. Square-enix already said that Xbox 360 with its crappy DVD drive and crappy Core unit will hinder the game.

just like Kojima said about MGS 4. so don't get your hopes so high, lemmings.

Game13a13y

Crappy core?  Really you can't be serious.  Sure, the Cell is nothing to scoff at, but that doesn't reduce the Xenon to trash.  The Xenon is also a very powerful and capable core and, to date, there isn't one gaming example that proves the Cell can completely thrash the Xenon. Really, many articles have been written stating that the Cell and Xenon don't have such a large power gap in the first place.

argh... how about you in you have to travel back and forth between cities in FF, do you want to load a new disc in every time? and do you know how much space voice acting takes up the disc? sure they can cramp everything in DVD, but you probably can't have high def as crispy anymore, also the harddrive less Core unit is the real issue here. how can developers make games using online downloadable fun stuffs anymore?

and about power between Cell and Xenon, make no mistake. many developers said that cell is more powerful already. the only ground you can rely on is the GPU front. which nobody knows which console has the advantage yet.

The PS3 needs the HDD in order to reduce load times.  That is because the BLU-RAY drive reads way too slow.  That doesn't affect the 360 as much because it has a fast reading DVD drive.

And as I've said before in other threads, sure the Cell will be able to do a few things in the future the Xenon will have trouble keeping up with, but it won't be beyond a few small impact parlor tricks.

This is thread is still going on? Stop beating the dead horse people. Get over it. We may hear something more about the status of FFXIII at the SE party here in the next week or so. So just chill and wait. Nothings absolute until SE says so.

hotdaisy18

It got hi-jacked by FFXIII when it was really about Eternal Sonata! :cry:

FFXIII and FFversusXIII were announced as exclusives at E3.

They remain that way until future confirmation. Those comments by SCE were referring to Fabula Nova Crystallis FFXIII the series, not the individual game FFXIII and FFvXIII.

fuzzysquash

That is just one way to interpret things, as they said it could go either way, and FF13 on 360 is totally a possibility now

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

FFXIII and FFversusXIII were announced as exclusives at E3.

They remain that way until future confirmation. Those comments by SCE were referring to Fabula Nova Crystallis FFXIII the series, not the individual game FFXIII and FFvXIII.

greg_splicer

That is just one way to interpret things, as they said it could go either way, and FF13 on 360 is totally a possibility now

Of course it's possible. Any fool who says it is not is just that. A fool. But that's not what the issue is. The issue is, SE has a total of 6 FFXIII type games. So far they have only announced three. Two for the PS3, and one for cell phones. The last three can go anywhere. 360, Wii, DS, PSP. So for now, that's all we have. You can't spin it any further Nasos. Just sit on your hands and accept what SE has said thus far. Again. We may know more of what's going on with the series in the next couple of weeks. So relax and stop trying to say 'Bu bu bu, 360 has more users. More money!" Don't make me lable you as Captian Fanboy Obvious.

FFXIII is not capable on the 360, Eternal Sonata is a 3rd party JRPG, 360 is dead in Japan, and Namco-Bandai has a very good long term relationship with Sony. So common sense says: FFXIII- PS3 exclusive, Eternal Sonata- Multiplat.  Don't publishers have to pay to get an ESRB rating for a game? Why would Namco get the PS3 version rated and then not release one?  Look at SE, they have not released a multiplat game in FOREVER, they like to take full advantage of w/e platform they develop for, so when something is announced as an exclusive by SE, it damn well stays that way.  You can hope for a FF spinoff on 360, but the chances are very slim that you will see the main game on 360, SE has already comitted it to PS3, and please don't bring up the fact Sony has lost exclusive, I can shoot down every exclusive loss so far.

Assassin's creed- its developed by Ubi, a multiplat developer, and it was also a new IP, and developers ususally want to give their new ip the best cahnce it can get. Actually, wasn't this game unveiled for 360 first? So didn't MS lose it?

Mercs 2- Mercs 1 was multiplat, and it performed better on the Xbox, who didn't see this coming.

DMC4- As soon as MS and Capcom partnered and DR and LP performed as well as thry did, this was a given.  people seem to forget capcom is notorious for making games multiplat at the last minute and screwing over both the Nintendo and Sony fanbases in the past with the RE series. I wouldn't be surprised if 360 fanboys are screaming at the end of this year when DR2 is multiplat.  It looks like Capcom is multiplat from here on out.

I think thats it...

the rest of these rumors are just out of the blue from hopeful fanboys.  There is no reason for Konami or SE to put their big games on the 360, especially since neither have yet to have even a decent game on the 360.  Rumble roses XX and project slypheed both flopped if I am correct.  Sure there is a bigger install base, but how much bigger? Everyone knows they don't have a 10 million user base, what with the massive failure rates of the 360. In fact, i wouldn't be surprised if the wii has already surpassed the 360 in sales.  But right now it is a fact that MGS4 is not possible on the 360, due to a hardware limitation, as confirmed by Mr.Kojima himself.  I dont' know if its just me, but it seems insane to think MGS4 will be able to stay exclusive and FFXIII won't, especially since FFXIII looks maringally better (puts up flamesheild).

There are some that do not consider it obvious, they suggest that PS3 somehow will sell as many FF13 as 360, even though 360 has trple the install base, and double the game attach rategreg_splicer

Trust me when I say this. And take some deep breaths while you're at it. By the time FFXIII is released, PS3 will have at least double its userbase. So let's pretend. Spring 2008. PS3 units out around 8 million. That number alone justifies that a game can stay exclusive to a console. It'll have a huge sells to start. And it can be a system seller. Sony knows this and would be willing to pay SE for that exclusiveness.

Now if...and this is a big IF, FFXIII was being released this year, yes. It'd be multiplat easy. Hands down. No questions asked. This is why a lot of people are questioning MGS4. The fact that it is coming out this year. If MGS4 was a 2008 release, then I'd have no doubt in my mind that it would stay to the PS3. Just look at what happened with DMC4. 2007 release. Small userbase for the PS3. Yeah. Capcom isn't dumb. PS3 games of 2007 Cows should be worried about After that, then they can take a small breather. 2008 is going to be very very awesome for gaming. For all consoles. PS3, Wii, and 360.

[QUOTE="greg_splicer"]There are some that do not consider it obvious, they suggest that PS3 somehow will sell as many FF13 as 360, even though 360 has trple the install base, and double the game attach ratehotdaisy18

Trust me when I say this. And take some deep breaths while you're at it. By the time FFXIII is released, PS3 will have at least double its userbase. So let's pretend. Spring 2008. PS3 units out around 8 million. That number alone justifies that a game can stay exclusive to a console. It'll have a huge sells to start. And it can be a system seller. Sony knows this and would be willing to pay SE for that exclusiveness.

Now if...and this is a big IF, FFXIII was being released this year, yes. It'd be multiplat easy. Hands down. No questions asked. This is why a lot of people are questioning MGS4. The fact that it is coming out this year. If MGS4 was a 2008 release, then I'd have no doubt in my mind that it would stay to the PS3. Just look at what happened with DMC4. 2007 release. Small userbase for the PS3. Yeah. Capcom isn't dumb. PS3 games of 2007 Cows should be worried about After that, then they can take a small breather. 2008 is going to be very very awesome for gaming. For all consoles. PS3, Wii, and 360.

Sony can pay for 3-4 million sales lost on 360 ? Are you sure ? Because even if PS3 is indeed 8 mill by that time, 360 will easilyl be 16 mill+, closer to 18 mill in reality, since the system sellers this year alone are counteless, on PS3 none

But let's pretend 360 will be just double the PS3 install base, and let's pretend the attach rate is same, still 360 is 2x the sales than PS3, so how could Sony pay them for 2 times more the profit they make for the game ? That seems impossible, they could as well buy the company then

People that say FF13 will remain PS3 excluisve, because sales to 8mill users, probably 1-2 million that is, are enough, just forget that 1-2 million sales are NOT enough, when you can have a total of 3-5 million sales if you move to 360 too, the difference is HUGE

FFXIII is not capable on the 360, Eternal Sonata is a 3rd party JRPG, 360 is dead in Japan, and Namco-Bandai has a very good long term relationship with Sony. So common sense says: FFXIII- PS3 exclusive, Eternal Sonata- Multiplat.  Don't publishers have to pay to get an ESRB rating for a game? Why would Namco get the PS3 version rated and then not release one?  Look at SE, they have not released a multiplat game in FOREVER, they like to take full advantage of w/e platform they develop for, so when something is announced as an exclusive by SE, it damn well stays that way.  You can hope for a FF spinoff on 360, but the chances are very slim that you will see the main game on 360, SE has already comitted it to PS3, and please don't bring up the fact Sony has lost exclusive, I can shoot down every exclusive loss so far.

Assassin's creed- its developed by Ubi, a multiplat developer, and it was also a new IP, and developers ususally want to give their new ip the best cahnce it can get. Actually, wasn't this game unveiled for 360 first? So didn't MS lose it?

Mercs 2- Mercs 1 was multiplat, and it performed better on the Xbox, who didn't see this coming.

DMC4- As soon as MS and Capcom partnered and DR and LP performed as well as thry did, this was a given.  people seem to forget capcom is notorious for making games multiplat at the last minute and screwing over both the Nintendo and Sony fanbases in the past with the RE series. I wouldn't be surprised if 360 fanboys are screaming at the end of this year when DR2 is multiplat.  It looks like Capcom is multiplat from here on out.

I think thats it...

the rest of these rumors are just out of the blue from hopeful fanboys.  There is no reason for Konami or SE to put their big games on the 360, especially since neither have yet to have even a decent game on the 360.  Rumble roses XX and project slypheed both flopped if I am correct.  Sure there is a bigger install base, but how much bigger? Everyone knows they don't have a 10 million user base, what with the massive failure rates of the 360. In fact, i wouldn't be surprised if the wii has already surpassed the 360 in sales.  But right now it is a fact that MGS4 is not possible on the 360, due to a hardware limitation, as confirmed by Mr.Kojima himself.  I dont' know if its just me, but it seems insane to think MGS4 will be able to stay exclusive and FFXIII won't, especially since FFXIII looks maringally better (puts up flamesheild).

Devilwillcry

And if it were such a factor (to the developer, tri-Crescendo) that 360 wasn't selling as well in Japan, they would have announced it for PS3 long ago, as they do not have ties with Microsoft and Namco-Bandai was publishing.

Besides, Ace Combat 6 is an Xbox 360 exclusive, and that was a Sony exclusive last gen.  Eternal Sonata has, as of right now, zero reason to be ported to PS3, due to its lackluster sales in JAPAN as well as other areas.  Besides, I think many Japanese developers are waiting for Sakaguchi to blaze the trail before they really jump in.

Cows are really having a hard time swallowing their pride because their want another 360 title.

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[QUOTE="greg_splicer"]There are some that do not consider it obvious, they suggest that PS3 somehow will sell as many FF13 as 360, even though 360 has trple the install base, and double the game attach rategreg_splicer

Trust me when I say this. And take some deep breaths while you're at it. By the time FFXIII is released, PS3 will have at least double its userbase. So let's pretend. Spring 2008. PS3 units out around 8 million. That number alone justifies that a game can stay exclusive to a console. It'll have a huge sells to start. And it can be a system seller. Sony knows this and would be willing to pay SE for that exclusiveness.

Now if...and this is a big IF, FFXIII was being released this year, yes. It'd be multiplat easy. Hands down. No questions asked. This is why a lot of people are questioning MGS4. The fact that it is coming out this year. If MGS4 was a 2008 release, then I'd have no doubt in my mind that it would stay to the PS3. Just look at what happened with DMC4. 2007 release. Small userbase for the PS3. Yeah. Capcom isn't dumb. PS3 games of 2007 Cows should be worried about After that, then they can take a small breather. 2008 is going to be very very awesome for gaming. For all consoles. PS3, Wii, and 360.

Sony can pay for 3-4 million sales lost on 360 ? Are you sure ? Because even if PS3 is indeed 8 mill by that time, 360 will easilyl be 16 mill+, closer to 18 mill in reality, since the system sellers this year alone are counteless, on PS3 none

But let's pretend 360 will be just double the PS3 install base, and let's pretend the attach rate is same, still 360 is 2x the sales than PS3, so how could Sony pay them for 2 times more the profit they make for the game ? That seems impossible, they could as well buy the company then

People that say FF13 will remain PS3 excluisve, because sales to 8mill users, probably 1-2 million that is, are enough, just forget that 1-2 million sales are NOT enough, when you can have a total of 3-5 million sales if you move to 360 too, the difference is HUGE

It's all speculation right now. You and I both don't know what's going to happen. So why even argue it? There's no facts to what you and I can say on the issue. Opinions that no doubt will clash and in the end, where does it get us? No where. Because in the end, we both don't know what's going to happen. I really don't care where the game goes. I have all the consoles so I have nothing to sweat it over with. And each console has exclusives that I will happily enjoy. So you keep on going on about those silly sales figures of yours because no one cares. All I care about is what the game is going to look like in the end. And enjoy playing it.

Memo to self: "It's fun to argue with a fanboy once in a while. If you speak in reasonable terms. Because we all know, in SW, the fanboy is never right. But fun to laugh at."

[QUOTE="Devilwillcry"]

FFXIII is not capable on the 360, Eternal Sonata is a 3rd party JRPG, 360 is dead in Japan, and Namco-Bandai has a very good long term relationship with Sony. So common sense says: FFXIII- PS3 exclusive, Eternal Sonata- Multiplat.  Don't publishers have to pay to get an ESRB rating for a game? Why would Namco get the PS3 version rated and then not release one?  Look at SE, they have not released a multiplat game in FOREVER, they like to take full advantage of w/e platform they develop for, so when something is announced as an exclusive by SE, it damn well stays that way.  You can hope for a FF spinoff on 360, but the chances are very slim that you will see the main game on 360, SE has already comitted it to PS3, and please don't bring up the fact Sony has lost exclusive, I can shoot down every exclusive loss so far.

Assassin's creed- its developed by Ubi, a multiplat developer, and it was also a new IP, and developers ususally want to give their new ip the best cahnce it can get. Actually, wasn't this game unveiled for 360 first? So didn't MS lose it?

Mercs 2- Mercs 1 was multiplat, and it performed better on the Xbox, who didn't see this coming.

DMC4- As soon as MS and Capcom partnered and DR and LP performed as well as thry did, this was a given.  people seem to forget capcom is notorious for making games multiplat at the last minute and screwing over both the Nintendo and Sony fanbases in the past with the RE series. I wouldn't be surprised if 360 fanboys are screaming at the end of this year when DR2 is multiplat.  It looks like Capcom is multiplat from here on out.

I think thats it...

the rest of these rumors are just out of the blue from hopeful fanboys.  There is no reason for Konami or SE to put their big games on the 360, especially since neither have yet to have even a decent game on the 360.  Rumble roses XX and project slypheed both flopped if I am correct.  Sure there is a bigger install base, but how much bigger? Everyone knows they don't have a 10 million user base, what with the massive failure rates of the 360. In fact, i wouldn't be surprised if the wii has already surpassed the 360 in sales.  But right now it is a fact that MGS4 is not possible on the 360, due to a hardware limitation, as confirmed by Mr.Kojima himself.  I dont' know if its just me, but it seems insane to think MGS4 will be able to stay exclusive and FFXIII won't, especially since FFXIII looks maringally better (puts up flamesheild).

Ultimas_Blade

And if it were such a factor (to the developer, tri-Crescendo) that 360 wasn't selling as well in Japan, they would have announced it for PS3 long ago, as they do not have ties with Microsoft and Namco-Bandai was publishing.

Besides, Ace Combat 6 is an Xbox 360 exclusive, and that was a Sony exclusive last gen.  Eternal Sonata has, as of right now, zero reason to be ported to PS3, due to its lackluster sales in JAPAN as well as other areas.  Besides, I think many Japanese developers are waiting for Sakaguchi to blaze the trail before they really jump in.

Cows are really having a hard time swallowing their pride because their want another 360 title.

AC6 is only a timed exclusive as stated in last month's issue of OXM.  Either way, Eternal Sonata is still up in the air, it can easily be done on the PS3 and a PS3 version would only mean more money.

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[QUOTE="greg_splicer"]There are some that do not consider it obvious, they suggest that PS3 somehow will sell as many FF13 as 360, even though 360 has trple the install base, and double the game attach rategreg_splicer

Trust me when I say this. And take some deep breaths while you're at it. By the time FFXIII is released, PS3 will have at least double its userbase. So let's pretend. Spring 2008. PS3 units out around 8 million. That number alone justifies that a game can stay exclusive to a console. It'll have a huge sells to start. And it can be a system seller. Sony knows this and would be willing to pay SE for that exclusiveness.

Now if...and this is a big IF, FFXIII was being released this year, yes. It'd be multiplat easy. Hands down. No questions asked. This is why a lot of people are questioning MGS4. The fact that it is coming out this year. If MGS4 was a 2008 release, then I'd have no doubt in my mind that it would stay to the PS3. Just look at what happened with DMC4. 2007 release. Small userbase for the PS3. Yeah. Capcom isn't dumb. PS3 games of 2007 Cows should be worried about After that, then they can take a small breather. 2008 is going to be very very awesome for gaming. For all consoles. PS3, Wii, and 360.

Sony can pay for 3-4 million sales lost on 360 ? Are you sure ? Because even if PS3 is indeed 8 mill by that time, 360 will easilyl be 16 mill+, closer to 18 mill in reality, since the system sellers this year alone are counteless, on PS3 none

But let's pretend 360 will be just double the PS3 install base, and let's pretend the attach rate is same, still 360 is 2x the sales than PS3, so how could Sony pay them for 2 times more the profit they make for the game ? That seems impossible, they could as well buy the company then

People that say FF13 will remain PS3 excluisve, because sales to 8mill users, probably 1-2 million that is, are enough, just forget that 1-2 million sales are NOT enough, when you can have a total of 3-5 million sales if you move to 360 too, the difference is HUGE

In case you haven't noticed, SE are very loyal nationalists to Japan, I think they'd rather die than put FFXIII on an American console.  But go ahead, and keep hoping....your just setting yourself up for disappointment. If every developer truly wants to maximize profit, and make everything exclusive to 360 or multiplat, than why is Ninja Giaden Sigma, a full on remake built from the ground up for the PS3, remaining an exclusive, after lemmings swore it would go mulitplat. Trust me, that game was not cheap to make either, easily as big a budget as DMC4 has.