Everyone Realizes That A $400 PS3 Is Game Over For M$ Right?

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#1 -Renegade
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if sony announces a $400 ps3 within the next few weeks 360 will be finished. ps3 is already outselling 360 in japan and if another cheaper sku is announce the same will happen in europe and north america as well. we already have some great games like hevenly sword and resistance with more to follow this coming holiday.
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#2 Pariah_001
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Yeah, we all know it. Not many would admit it though.
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#3 gromit007
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MS has a rumored new Core bundle coming and all 360 SKUs are cheaper than the speculated new PS3.

It all comes down to 2 things. Halo plus price cut is moving consoles; and it all depends on what the 'new' PS3 doesnt have.

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not a chance mate, sorry.
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if sony announces a $400 ps3 within the next few weeks 360 will be finished. ps3 is alreeady outselling 360 in japan and if another cheaper sku is announce the same will happen in europe and north america as well. we already have some great games like hevenly sword and resistance with more to folllow this coming holiday.-Renegade

So far, EVERY ps3 outselling the 360 prediction has fallen flat for the last year..

i don't see why this is any different...

NA has already moved to the 360 and EU is doing... leaving japan..which is devoutly Wii oriented...

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#6 novasypder77
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hmmm... sony losing more money makes microsoft lose? I thought it was the other way around? Besides, you could sell the PS3 for 20 dollars but it doesnt matter if it doesnt have any games worth playing /sigh
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Why would people buy a PS3 now? What games will they be playing? Liar and Heavenly sword? LOL

I'll go back to playing Halo3, Bioshock, Gear, Madden 08, and Forza. Later cows

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#8 nicenator
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The same price drop in europe would finish the race there and maybe even persuade the crowd in the UK. however, to win America and japan, games are still required.

PS3 at $399 plus MGS4 and GT5 may well make a big impact.

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With the ability to play Halo 3, a superior GTA 4 (cause of downloadable content), Madden 08 I think it is safe to say 360 is fine.
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if sony announces a $400 ps3 within the next few weeks 360 will be finished. ps3 is alreeady outselling 360 in japan and if another cheaper sku is announce the same will happen in europe and north america as well. we already have some great games like hevenly sword and resistance with more to folllow this coming holiday.-Renegade

You said the same about the $499 price cut.

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[QUOTE="-Renegade"]if sony announces a $400 ps3 within the next few weeks 360 will be finished. ps3 is alreeady outselling 360 in japan and if another cheaper sku is announce the same will happen in europe and north america as well. we already have some great games like hevenly sword and resistance with more to folllow this coming holiday.Yellow_Rose

You said the same about the $499 price cut.

ZING!!!

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[QUOTE="-Renegade"]if sony announces a $400 ps3 within the next few weeks 360 will be finished. ps3 is alreeady outselling 360 in japan and if another cheaper sku is announce the same will happen in europe and north america as well. we already have some great games like hevenly sword and resistance with more to folllow this coming holiday.Yellow_Rose

You said the same about the $499 price cut.

Ah I remember that... nothing let to see here
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#13 jason1690
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Not me. I have no desire to buy a PS3. I am completed satisified withthe 360. I think it is the better console this generation. It has more of the games that appeal to me, available now, and those planned for the forseeable future. I have no desire to play MGS4 orany Final Fantasy games. So, for me, I do not share your realization.
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They could make it $200, without games its still a paperweight.
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Two words /threads this thread.

Halo Three.

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[QUOTE="-Renegade"]if sony announces a $400 ps3 within the next few weeks 360 will be finished. ps3 is alreeady outselling 360 in japan and if another cheaper sku is announce the same will happen in europe and north america as well. we already have some great games like hevenly sword and resistance with more to folllow this coming holiday.tango90101

So far, EVERY ps3 outselling the 360 prediction has fallen flat for the last year..

i don't see why this is any different...

NA has already moved to the 360 and EU is doing... leaving japan..which is devoutly Wii oriented...

yeah but there hasn't been a model out cheaper then the highest costing 360 model. more for less($399 ps3 > elite)where is your money at?

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So far, EVERY ps3 outselling the 360 prediction has fallen flat for the last year..

i don't see why this is any different...tango90101

The fact that the non-competitive price is the only thing keeping people from buying the PS3 perhaps?

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#18 Willy105
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$400!?! Wow that's expensive!

What person is going to buy something taht costs $400!?!

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I don't know because microsoft spent a lot of money on their halo3 marketing and their system is still 50 dollars cheaper.

About a year ago i would have agreed...

I'm just saying its not such a sure thing right now....

If mgs4 was a holiday release i would bet a million dollars ps3 would put the finishing move on 360 with that price

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The same price drop in europe would finish the race there and maybe even persuade the crowd in the UK. however, to win America and japan, games are still required.

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what, do us folks in europe not use our consoles for games?
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if sony announces a $400 ps3 within the next few weeks 360 will be finished. ps3 is already outselling 360 in japan and if another cheaper sku is announce the same will happen in europe and north america as well. we already have some great games like hevenly sword and resistance with more to follow this coming holiday.-Renegade

I don't know that. You need games. You listed HS (a great game but really a rental) and resistance (OK, nothing out of this world and a launch title to boot). Do you have anything better to do than make constant threads like this about your beloved console. Just blog your "wonderful ideas". OK Renegade, or should I call you InfamousC?

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#22 Squall18
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Looks at current ps3 sales in Japan , compares it to the Wii, and compares the ps3's American sales to it's competitors

*goes and plays halo 3 to get skulls

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[QUOTE="tango90101"]So far, EVERY ps3 outselling the 360 prediction has fallen flat for the last year..

i don't see why this is any different...Pariah_001

The fact that the non-competitive price is the only thing keeping people from buying the PS3 perhaps?

Initially the only reason. Not anymore, I think.

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[QUOTE="tango90101"]So far, EVERY ps3 outselling the 360 prediction has fallen flat for the last year..

i don't see why this is any different...Pariah_001

The fact that the non-competitive price is the only thing keeping people from buying the PS3 perhaps?

once they drop the price ms is sure to follow (as proven by history) and once again the ps3 will be non-competitive...

especially for a console w/o a AAA exclusive....

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Why would people buy a PS3 now? What games will they be playing? Liar and Heavenly sword? LOL

I'll go back to playing Halo3, Bioshock, Gear, Madden 08, and Forza. Later cows

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Madden 08? Why would you even include that in your list?
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#26 Pariah_001
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You said the same about the $499 price cut.gromit007

Please to note: The $100 price-cut moved a million units faster in a few months than the individual console was able to in 6 months.

Think about what a $200 price-cut would achieve--Especially would it would even out with the competitors.

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#27 istreakforfood
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i dont see it happening with the library it has now and the upcoming games for this holiday.
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#28 tango90101
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[QUOTE="tango90101"]

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]if sony announces a $400 ps3 within the next few weeks 360 will be finished. ps3 is alreeady outselling 360 in japan and if another cheaper sku is announce the same will happen in europe and north america as well. we already have some great games like hevenly sword and resistance with more to folllow this coming holiday.-Renegade

So far, EVERY ps3 outselling the 360 prediction has fallen flat for the last year..

i don't see why this is any different...

NA has already moved to the 360 and EU is doing... leaving japan..which is devoutly Wii oriented...

yeah but there hasn't been a model out cheaper then the highest costing 360 model. more for less($399 ps3 > elite)where is your money at?

and when sony drops the price, expect ms' highest priced 360 to STILL be waaaay lower than the ps3...

removing the ps3's competitive pricing angle...

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[QUOTE="-Renegade"]if sony announces a $400 ps3 within the next few weeks 360 will be finished. ps3 is alreeady outselling 360 in japan and if another cheaper sku is announce the same will happen in europe and north america as well. we already have some great games like hevenly sword and resistance with more to folllow this coming holiday.tango90101

So far, EVERY ps3 outselling the 360 prediction has fallen flat for the last year..

i don't see why this is any different...

NA has already moved to the 360 and EU is doing... leaving japan..which is devoutly Wii oriented...

What do you meanfor the "Last year"? ThePs3 only has been out 11 moths

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[QUOTE="degeneraz"]

Why would people buy a PS3 now? What games will they be playing? Liar and Heavenly sword? LOL

I'll go back to playing Halo3, Bioshock, Gear, Madden 08, and Forza. Later cows

SergeantSnitch



Madden 08? Why would you even include that in your list?

Casuals love it and all of the big money tournaments are using the 360 version. That is why sales of Madden on 360 destroyed all other console sales for Madden.

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Why would people buy a PS3 now? What games will they be playing? Liar and Heavenly sword? LOL

I'll go back to playing Halo3, Bioshock, Gear, Madden 08, and Forza. Later cows

degeneraz

when this new ps3 comes out supposdly oct. 30th there will be plenty of games for anyone to pick up. heavenly sword, resistance, warhawk, motorstorm, ninja gaiden, folklore, the eye of judgement, guitar hero 3, and RATCHET AND CLANK. then the following week with call of duty 4 and blacksite area 51 and all the big holiday release just around the corner.

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I'd be pretty shocked if Sony cut the price of the PS3 twice less than 12 months after launch. Weren't they losing enough money already?

Even if they did that, a $400 PS3 wouldn't guarantee victory. There still aren't many compelling reasons to purchase the console at this time. I could see a price cut at some point in 2008, but a price cut now would be rather surprising.

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#33 Pariah_001
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once they drop the price ms is sure to follow (as proven by history) and once again the ps3 will be non-competitive...

especially for a console w/o a AAA exclusive....

tango90101

Microsoft is too stringent to repeat history twice--Especially after suffering billion dollar loss in a single quarter; they may be ungodly rich, but they haven't even bothered to respond to Sony's free online network after their own customers have suggested it en masse.

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With the ability to play Halo 3, a superior GTA 4 (cause of downloadable content), Madden 08 I think it is safe to say 360 is fine.mastarifla

yes because casuals will know all about the content. :roll: this will only help the 360s hardcore croud will mean nothing in the long run.

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I don't know because microsoft spent a lot of money on their halo3 marketing and their system is still 50 dollars cheaper.

About a year ago i would have agreed...

I'm just saying its not such a sure thing right now....

If mgs4 was a holiday release i would bet a million dollars ps3 would put the finishing move on 360 with that price

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As much as I love MGS... it is NOT a system seller. Hell I don't even think any MGS game has sold over 5 million... Now if we were talking about GT... then I could see how its possible, but with the release of Halo it is VERY unlikely.
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[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"][QUOTE="degeneraz"]

Why would people buy a PS3 now? What games will they be playing? Liar and Heavenly sword? LOL

I'll go back to playing Halo3, Bioshock, Gear, Madden 08, and Forza. Later cows

dhjohns



Madden 08? Why would you even include that in your list?

Casuals love it and all of the big money tournaments are using the 360 version. That is why sales of Madden on 360 destroyed all other console sales for Madden.

Bang on, and all of the celebrity athletes talking about Madden in SI, last gen it was always PS2, now its Xbox. These things make a difference.

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[QUOTE="-Renegade"]if sony announces a $400 ps3 within the next few weeks 360 will be finished. ps3 is alreeady outselling 360 in japan and if another cheaper sku is announce the same will happen in europe and north america as well. we already have some great games like hevenly sword and resistance with more to folllow this coming holiday.Yellow_Rose

You said the same about the $499 price cut.

well it was still higher then the highest priced 360.. if they announce this why would anyone not get a ps3? it will have better games plus you get a free blu ray player.

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[QUOTE="degeneraz"]

Why would people buy a PS3 now? What games will they be playing? Liar and Heavenly sword? LOL

I'll go back to playing Halo3, Bioshock, Gear, Madden 08, and Forza. Later cows

-Renegade

when this new ps3 comes out supposdly oct. 30th there will be plenty of games for anyone to pick up. heavenly sword, resistance, warhawk, motorstorm, ninja gaiden, folklore, the eye of judgement, guitar hero 3, and RATCHET AND CLANK. then the following week with call of duty 4 and blacksite area 51 and all the big holiday release just around the corner.

And thats supposed to combat, Halo 3, Gears of War, Bioshock, best version of any EA game, multiplat games without the delay, Forza 2, PGR4, Mass Effect & a lower price? Not to mention COD4, Guitar hero 3, Ninja Gaiden, Blacksite Area 51 (lol, are you serious?), are all playable on the 360. Can you say delusional?

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[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]if sony announces a $400 ps3 within the next few weeks 360 will be finished. ps3 is alreeady outselling 360 in japan and if another cheaper sku is announce the same will happen in europe and north america as well. we already have some great games like hevenly sword and resistance with more to folllow this coming holiday.-Renegade

You said the same about the $499 price cut.

well it was still higher then the highest priced 360.. if they announce this why would anyone not get a ps3? it will have better games plus you get a free blu ray player.

How is it free when you are paying for it? :?

:lol:

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360 has NA in the bag with Halo 3 and the superior Madden 08. Also if the Madden challenge remains with the 360 well than thats more madden players to the 360.

With nothing to rival Halo 3 in sales in NA, the PS3 will lose there completely. No unreal 3 will not put up Halo numbers on PS3 because most of that community of unreal gamers have to have become morons to suddenly not play the superior PC version.

As for Europe, Forza 2 has been successful, Halo 3 is doing very good there, PGR 4 another great racing game will do well and considering the success call of duty games have had on the 360, i think that trend will continue with COD 4 to help the 360 more than PS3.

Japan 360 lost that along time ago, sadly Wii stomped the PS3 there in Japan as well as the NA and Europe.

So during the holidays i still see
1-Wii
2-360
3-PS3

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But theres still really nothing worth playing.

If Sony doesn't announce a $400 PS3 for this Holiday, i'll be buying my own Xbox 360. The only game i'll probably regret not being able to play is Socom, but im not spending $500+ for Socom when the rest of the games really don't interest me.

It would be better if they released some info on The Getaway (I liked it on the PS2) Eight Days and WarDevil.

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if sony announces a $400 ps3 within the next few weeks 360 will be finished. ps3 is already outselling 360 in japan and if another cheaper sku is announce the same will happen in europe and north america as well. we already have some great games like hevenly sword and resistance with more to follow this coming holiday.-Renegade

any AAA games there?

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[QUOTE="tango90101"]once they drop the price ms is sure to follow (as proven by history) and once again the ps3 will be non-competitive...

especially for a console w/o a AAA exclusive....

Pariah_001

Microsoft is too stringent to repeat history twice--Especially after suffering billion dollar loss in a single quarter; they may be ungodly rich, but they haven't even bothered to respond to Sony's free online network after their own customers have suggested it en masse.

Microsoft has NEVER had this many AAA quality games... and for the XBL comment... you get what you paid for
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But theres still really nothing worth playing.

If Sony doesn't announce a $400 PS3 for this Holiday, i'll be buying my own Xbox 360. The only game i'll probably regret not being able to play is Socom, but im not spending $500+ for Socom when the rest of the games really don't interest me.

It would be better if they released some info on The Getaway (I liked it on the PS2) Eight Days and WarDevil.

RickyStackz

It looks like GOW3 will probably interst you.

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[QUOTE="Pariah_001"][QUOTE="tango90101"]So far, EVERY ps3 outselling the 360 prediction has fallen flat for the last year..

i don't see why this is any different...dsmccracken

The fact that the non-competitive price is the only thing keeping people from buying the PS3 perhaps?

Initially the only reason. Not anymore, I think.

how is it not when ps3 has yet to experience a real price drop yet?

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#47 -Renegade
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[QUOTE="Pariah_001"][QUOTE="tango90101"]So far, EVERY ps3 outselling the 360 prediction has fallen flat for the last year..

i don't see why this is any different...tango90101

The fact that the non-competitive price is the only thing keeping people from buying the PS3 perhaps?

once they drop the price ms is sure to follow (as proven by history) and once again the ps3 will be non-competitive...

especially for a console w/o a AAA exclusive....

ms has alredy dropped the price this year they won't do it again. sony only clearanced out the 60gb model there was no real price drop.

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#48 tango90101
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[QUOTE="tango90101"]once they drop the price ms is sure to follow (as proven by history) and once again the ps3 will be non-competitive...

especially for a console w/o a AAA exclusive....

Pariah_001

Microsoft is too stringent to repeat history twice--Especially after suffering billion dollar loss in a single quarter; they may be ungodly rich, but they haven't even bothered to respond to Sony's free online network after their own customers have suggested it en masse.

1. i've played a LOT of xbox live and have never heard anyone whine about the price.

2. why does it cost $10 to play Tekken on PSN if it's "free"..? at that rate they'll eclipse xbl fees with only 4 more games...;)

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#49 mastarifla
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[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="Pariah_001"][QUOTE="tango90101"]So far, EVERY ps3 outselling the 360 prediction has fallen flat for the last year..

i don't see why this is any different...-Renegade

The fact that the non-competitive price is the only thing keeping people from buying the PS3 perhaps?

Initially the only reason. Not anymore, I think.

how is it not when ps3 has yet to experience a real price drop yet?

In the casuals eyes it did experience a price drop, on people who actually know anything about the consoles they knew it was a clever marketing scheme.
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#50 Lakers20004life
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im fine paying $4 a month it keeps a bunch of little kids up and xbox live is like 10x better then PSN