Everyone Realizes That A $400 PS3 Is Game Over For M$ Right?

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]if sony announces a $400 ps3 within the next few weeks 360 will be finished. ps3 is alreeady outselling 360 in japan and if another cheaper sku is announce the same will happen in europe and north america as well. we already have some great games like hevenly sword and resistance with more to folllow this coming holiday.Yellow_Rose

You said the same about the $499 price cut.

HA! True... And there was just a price drop 3 months ago... That is REALLY sad when a company needs to drop the price of their console by $200, and %33 in the first 10 months.

why are you such fanboy every topic you made is basshing M$ did the xbox 360 kill your familly or something.

Just stop

[QUOTE="degeneraz"]

Why would people buy a PS3 now? What games will they be playing? Liar and Heavenly sword? LOL

I'll go back to playing Halo3, Bioshock, Gear, Madden 08, and Forza. Later cows

thetombradyhate

LAWL! A multiplat!

A multiplat? Theres 3 multiplats there...

BS, Gears and Madden.

And Halo 3 is most likely to come to PC.

So, its $400 to play Forza.

[QUOTE="thetombradyhate"][QUOTE="degeneraz"]

Why would people buy a PS3 now? What games will they be playing? Liar and Heavenly sword? LOL

I'll go back to playing Halo3, Bioshock, Gear, Madden 08, and Forza. Later cows

xBALOx

LAWL! A multiplat!

A multiplat? Theres 3 multiplats there...

BS, Gears and Madden.

And Halo 3 is most likely to come to PC.

So, its $400 to play Forza.

Still, games that are not on the PS3.

EDIT: To clarify, because I know somebody will point it out: I wasn't refering to Madden (though it does run at 60FPS on the 360 version... and have achievements and full XBL integration).

if sony announces a $400 ps3 within the next few weeks 360 will be finished. ps3 is already outselling 360 in japan and if another cheaper sku is announce the same will happen in europe and north america as well. we already have some great games like hevenly sword and resistance with more to follow this coming holiday.-Renegade

i doubt it...the new ps3 is apperntly not getting all the current features

because if the 360 has proven anything its that the $400 price point makes you sell you console like hotcakes.

/sarcasm

if sony announces a $400 ps3 within the next few weeks 360 will be finished. ps3 is already outselling 360 in japan and if another cheaper sku is announce the same will happen in europe and north america as well. we already have some great games like hevenly sword and resistance with more to follow this coming holiday.-Renegade

You do realaze that all that means is a cheaper 360 right?

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]if sony announces a $400 ps3 within the next few weeks 360 will be finished. ps3 is already outselling 360 in japan and if another cheaper sku is announce the same will happen in europe and north america as well. we already have some great games like hevenly sword and resistance with more to follow this coming holiday.Tobin09

You do realaze that all that means is a cheaper 360 right?

huh? no.

I just found a link, and I thought I'd bring it up.

1UP reports that a new PS3 model appears in an ad. This lends more credence to the $400 PS3 rumors.

There's a pretty good chance I'm wrong, in that case, about the chances of Sony releasing a console at this price.

[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]if sony announces a $400 ps3 within the next few weeks 360 will be finished. ps3 is alreeady outselling 360 in japan and if another cheaper sku is announce the same will happen in europe and north america as well. we already have some great games like hevenly sword and resistance with more to folllow this coming holiday.hellfire9988

You said the same about the $499 price cut.

HA! True... And there was just a price drop 3 months ago... That is REALLY sad when a company needs to drop the price of their console by $200, and %33 in the first 10 months.

sad is apple dropping iphone's price $200 in less then 2 months after release. what sony is doing is passing on the savings they are able to create as time goes on for their product. didn't you hear that blu ray diodes went from over $100 to just roughly $8 to produce in a matter of months?

[QUOTE="Tobin09"]

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]if sony announces a $400 ps3 within the next few weeks 360 will be finished. ps3 is already outselling 360 in japan and if another cheaper sku is announce the same will happen in europe and north america as well. we already have some great games like hevenly sword and resistance with more to follow this coming holiday.xBALOx

You do realaze that all that means is a cheaper 360 right?

huh? no.

Well, MS responded to the last PS3 price drop with a price drop of their own so I doubt they wouldn't drop the price again to combat another one.

[QUOTE="xBALOx"][QUOTE="Tobin09"]

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]if sony announces a $400 ps3 within the next few weeks 360 will be finished. ps3 is already outselling 360 in japan and if another cheaper sku is announce the same will happen in europe and north america as well. we already have some great games like hevenly sword and resistance with more to follow this coming holiday.The_Game21x

You do realaze that all that means is a cheaper 360 right?

huh? no.

Well, MS responded to the last PS3 price drop with a price drop of their own so I doubt they wouldn't drop the price again to combat another one.

but do they really need one? i mean halo 3 just came out and thats pushing consoles right now...IF sony releases a 400 ps3 then i would think that MS would wait until closer to the holidays for a price cut...then ill get 1.

[QUOTE="thetombradyhate"][QUOTE="degeneraz"]

Why would people buy a PS3 now? What games will they be playing? Liar and Heavenly sword? LOL

I'll go back to playing Halo3, Bioshock, Gear, Madden 08, and Forza. Later cows

xBALOx

LAWL! A multiplat!

A multiplat? Theres 3 multiplats there...

BS, Gears and Madden.

And Halo 3 is most likely to come to PC.

So, its $400 to play Forza.

No...it's $400 to play Forza, bioshock, Gears, Madden and Halo 3 (BTW, most people want to play Halo 3 now. Playing it on their PC two years later isn't exactly the same. Until it comes to PC, halo 3 is exclusive all to 360). Just because they're on the PC doesn't mean you can't play them on your 360.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="xBALOx"][QUOTE="Tobin09"]

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]if sony announces a $400 ps3 within the next few weeks 360 will be finished. ps3 is already outselling 360 in japan and if another cheaper sku is announce the same will happen in europe and north america as well. we already have some great games like hevenly sword and resistance with more to follow this coming holiday.p2rus

You do realaze that all that means is a cheaper 360 right?

huh? no.

Well, MS responded to the last PS3 price drop with a price drop of their own so I doubt they wouldn't drop the price again to combat another one.

but do they really need one? i mean halo 3 just came out and thats pushing consoles right now...IF sony releases a 400 ps3 then i would think that MS would wait until closer to the holidays for a price cut...then ill get 1.

I doubt they would really need to frop the price, but I'm guessing technophiles would look at the PS3 at just $50 more having more features, such as the Blu Ray player. I highly doubt casuals would care about such things. Many of them just want a system to play the latest GTA or Halo or something along those lines.

well i for one will buy a ps3 if the 400$ price drop is true. Sony still has the most popular franchises for most of the genres. this year belongs to the 360 , but next year the ps3 looks awesome and the 360 looks bleh. Uncharted looks good but Rachet and clank is coming out and thats a bigger platfromer series then anything on the 360. ( popularity wise)

I just dont see a 360 platformer outselling ratchet or jak , i dont see a 360 racer outselling the more popular gran turismo series, i dont see a 360 rpg outselling final fantasy, i dont see a 360 fighter outselling tekken 6, i dont see a 360 action adventure game outselling MGS4. not at this point in time. and even god of war is more popular saleswise then NG. You can argue that things may change, and that maybe so. but FF helped the psp outsell the ds. the DS. yes i know. thats huge.

and sony has made moves for the future, theyve secured exclusive titels with ncsoft, midway,ubisoft, and konami. and were arent seeing the effects of that now, but thats the future. everyone looks at the present and whats happening now, because now matters most.sony seems tobe securing its future for next year and beyond. a 400$ ps3 would really help things salewise, and as ps2 sales begin to die, i think that will also help ps3 sales rise. you have two sony consoles right now that are selling. Yes not one, but two. which tells me that most sony fans havent made the jump to the next gen. including myself.

sad is apple dropping iphone's price $200 in less then 2 months after release. what sony is doing is passing on the savings they are able to create as time goes on for their product. didn't you hear that blu ray diodes went from over $100 to just roughly $8 to produce in a matter of months?

-Renegade

Sony was losing $200 on the PS3 initially, and, if this comes true, they will have dropped it an additional $200. Sony didn't want to decrease prices this fast and lose that much money for this long of a time.

That being said, this is bad for Sony, but great for PS gamers. This will surely increase PS3 sales (how much, I don't know, but it could be substantial) and may even instill lost confidence for third party developers.

Yeah, we all know it. Not many would admit it though.
Pariah_001

And I will celebrate it! The PS3 has already outsold the 360 worldwide the past 2 months at 150 bucks more with less games, it came within a stone throw of it in NA! At 399 the PS3 will murder the 360 and it will be PSWii like it should be!

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]

sad is apple dropping iphone's price $200 in less then 2 months after release. what sony is doing is passing on the savings they are able to create as time goes on for their product. didn't you hear that blu ray diodes went from over $100 to just roughly $8 to produce in a matter of months?

mattbbpl

Sony was losing $200 on the PS3 initially, and, if this comes true, they will have dropped it an additional $200. Sony didn't want to decrease prices this fast and lose that much money for this long of a time.

That being said, this is bad for Sony, but great for PS gamers. This will surely increase PS3 sales (how much, I don't know, but it could be substantial) and may even instill lost confidence for third party developers.

FALSE! The 40 gig cots less to make so they won't be losing as much money!

I thought the recent price drop was supposed to be Game Over for MS. We now know that $100 didn't even cause a ripple. Hmm...

Ok Cows, so is $400 the price point that should make MS go scurrying for cover?

I guess is inconceivable that Sony is losing the war because of games, right? I guess that it is also an impsosibility that PS3 sales are lackluster because - gulp - people prefer the 360. Is this correct?

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]

sad is apple dropping iphone's price $200 in less then 2 months after release. what sony is doing is passing on the savings they are able to create as time goes on for their product. didn't you hear that blu ray diodes went from over $100 to just roughly $8 to produce in a matter of months?

DeathIsARight

Sony was losing $200 on the PS3 initially, and, if this comes true, they will have dropped it an additional $200. Sony didn't want to decrease prices this fast and lose that much money for this long of a time.

That being said, this is bad for Sony, but great for PS gamers. This will surely increase PS3 sales (how much, I don't know, but it could be substantial) and may even instill lost confidence for third party developers.

FALSE! The 40 gig cots less to make so they won't be losing as much money!

I don't think they'll save that much money from the 40 GB version. I can count the dollar difference between the wholesale cost of a 60 GB drive and 40 GB drive on my fingers. Media and USB slots tend to cost very little as well, particularly at the wholesale level. I'm not sure what the emotion engine costs, but it's already been removed (I doubt it's much anyway considering the die size should be miniscule now).

Besides, losing more money on the lower end model is standard practice. MS loses more on the core than the Premium, and the also lose more on the Premium than the Elite. Extra Hard drive space, up to a certain point, has a very low marginal cost.

Itd be funny if it ended up bein a 100gb model or something and for like 1000 bucks ... I hope not :(Roushrsh

if sony announces a $400 ps3 within the next few weeks 360 will be finished. ps3 is already outselling 360 in japan and if another cheaper sku is announce the same will happen in europe and north america as well. we already have some great games like hevenly sword and resistance with more to follow this coming holiday.-Renegade

no because then it will never be profitable. sony lost $200 from the $600 ps3 so this will be worse so it will never happen.

[QUOTE="hellfire9988"][QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]if sony announces a $400 ps3 within the next few weeks 360 will be finished. ps3 is alreeady outselling 360 in japan and if another cheaper sku is announce the same will happen in europe and north america as well. we already have some great games like hevenly sword and resistance with more to folllow this coming holiday.-Renegade

You said the same about the $499 price cut.

HA! True... And there was just a price drop 3 months ago... That is REALLY sad when a company needs to drop the price of their console by $200, and %33 in the first 10 months.

sad is apple dropping iphone's price $200 in less then 2 months after release. what sony is doing is passing on the savings they are able to create as time goes on for their product. didn't you hear that blu ray diodes went from over $100 to just roughly $8 to produce in a matter of months?

link? if thats true then why are blu ray players still hundreds of dollars? i know there are other components but they're not that expensive.

I just found a link, and I thought I'd bring it up.

1UP reports that a new PS3 model appears in an ad. This lends more credence to the $400 PS3 rumors.

There's a pretty good chance I'm wrong, in that case, about the chances of Sony releasing a console at this price.

sonicmj1

all you can tell is that theres a new model. for all we know it could be a $600 120 gig.

if sony announces a $400 ps3 within the next few weeks 360 will be finished. ps3 is already outselling 360 in japan and if another cheaper sku is announce the same will happen in europe and north america as well. we already have some great games like hevenly sword and resistance with more to follow this coming holiday.-Renegade

LMAO. Everyone knows eh? Everyone knows that the PS2 launched at $299 and took off at $199. A $400 PS3 will simply mean a cheaper 360. Nothing will change relatively. That's the problem when you launch last at the highest price point. You will never, ever be cheaper than the competition.

And you have the gall to post that the PS3 is 'already outselling the 360 in Japan' as if that were news? LMAO. Like it wasn't supposed to? Isn't the true story in Japan how the Wii is punishing the PS3? Pls name one, just one, commentator anywhere, anytime that expected the 360 to outsell the PS3 in Japan? Or even come close? LOL. Strawman arguments. What next? PS3 outsells 360 in Spain.....oh, wait...you've already done that one too.

I thought the recent price drop was supposed to be Game Over for MS. We now know that $100 didn't even cause a ripple. Hmm...

Ok Cows, so is $400 the price point that should make MS go scurrying for cover?

I guess is inconceivable that Sony is losing the war because of games, right? I guess that it is also an impsosibility that PS3 sales are lackluster because - gulp - people prefer the 360. Is this correct?

Pimpshigity21

if it wasa real price drop ps3 would be alot closer. once they do announce a $400 model it will be cheaper then the highest costing 360 elite model.

$400 ps3 with wifi, and being able to play my ps2 games = first day buy for me

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]if sony announces a $400 ps3 within the next few weeks 360 will be finished. ps3 is already outselling 360 in japan and if another cheaper sku is announce the same will happen in europe and north america as well. we already have some great games like hevenly sword and resistance with more to follow this coming holiday.wiirdawgs

no because then it will never be profitable. sony lost $200 from the $600 ps3 so this will be worse so it will never happen.

you don know they are breaking even on ps3s now don't you?

[QUOTE="sonicmj1"]

I just found a link, and I thought I'd bring it up.

1UP reports that a new PS3 model appears in an ad. This lends more credence to the $400 PS3 rumors.

There's a pretty good chance I'm wrong, in that case, about the chances of Sony releasing a console at this price.

shoeman12

all you can tell is that theres a new model. for all we know it could be a $600 120 gig.

It could, but considering the sheer quantity of rumors from a number of different sources pointing to a 40 GB PS3, I'd say that possibility is the most likely.

Of course, it doesn't have to be priced at $400...

[QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="hellfire9988"]

HA! True... And there was just a price drop 3 months ago... That is REALLY sad when a company needs to drop the price of their console by $200, and %33 in the first 10 months.

shoeman12

sad is apple dropping iphone's price $200 in less then 2 months after release. what sony is doing is passing on the savings they are able to create as time goes on for their product. didn't you hear that blu ray diodes went from over $100 to just roughly $8 to produce in a matter of months?

link? if thats true then why are blu ray players still hundreds of dollars? i know there are other components but they're not that expensive.

well sony isn't loosing money off their blu ray players and you do know that when new electronics come out(excluding ps3 and 360)that they are so exspensiveso thatcomapnies can re coup money from all the r&d they spent on it right?

They now cost only 8 bucks to make each, which means that PS3 production costs will drop considerably and Wedbush Morgan Securities analyst Michael Pachter thinks the same

Link

[QUOTE="shoeman12"][QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="hellfire9988"]

HA! True... And there was just a price drop 3 months ago... That is REALLY sad when a company needs to drop the price of their console by $200, and %33 in the first 10 months.

-Renegade

sad is apple dropping iphone's price $200 in less then 2 months after release. what sony is doing is passing on the savings they are able to create as time goes on for their product. didn't you hear that blu ray diodes went from over $100 to just roughly $8 to produce in a matter of months?

link? if thats true then why are blu ray players still hundreds of dollars? i know there are other components but they're not that expensive.

well sony isn't loosing money off their blu ray players and you do know that when new electronics come out(excluding ps3 and 360)that they are so exspensiveso thatcomapnies can re coup money from all the r&d they spent on it right?

They now cost only 8 bucks to make each, which means that PS3 production costs will drop considerably and Wedbush Morgan Securities analyst Michael Pachter thinks the same

Link

If you didn't notice, that link discusses the possibility of a price drop to $500 from those lower costs. A drop to $400 isn't even mentioned.

Mooooo.-Renegade

mmkay... While a $400 PS3 does sound yummy, it DOES NOT mean the 360 is dead. What's to stop MS from lowering the price as well? Don't be dumb >O!

It is $8 to make a single blue laser diode...not $8 to make a BluRay drive. Thought I'd clarify that.

In any case, whatever the BD cost is, it is a cost that MS does not have. Just like Wifi is a cost MS does not have.

And the PS3 launched last. Therefore the PS3 will always cost more. Period. End of story.

The PS3 cannot and will not ever have a price advantage vs the 360. Whether they can close the gap enough that the extra features are worth it, is another story....perhaps so. But Sony chose its strategy and it is not competing on price.

UT3 not coming in 2007! Sorry, I had to re-trace this thread and post this due to the ridiculous argument on UT3 being aholiday victor for the PS3. That is all.:P

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6180254.html?action=convert&om_clk=latestnews&tag=latestnews;title;0

360 has better games, and I think even casual gamers relize this.yoshi-lnex

While this is true right now, if the casual gamers realize it, then why is the 360 only selling at the same rate as the original Xbox? Surely if they want to EVER be #1, they need more sales than that.

[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]360 has better games, and I think even casual gamers relize this.ZIMdoom

While this is true right now, if the casual gamers realize it, then why is the 360 only selling at the same rate as the original Xbox? Surely if they want to EVER be #1, they need more sales than that.

Remember MS is still the "newb" in the gaming dept. I love 360 and even I'll admit this, but for being the "newb" their doing a d*** good job of it. And thats something you cannot deny.

if sony announces a $400 ps3 within the next few weeks 360 will be finished. ps3 is already outselling 360 in japan and if another cheaper sku is announce the same will happen in europe and north america as well. we already have some great games like hevenly sword and resistance with more to follow this coming holiday.-Renegade

ok wii is outselling ps3 4 to 1 in japan, and even the playstation 2 is outselling 360 in japan, north america and europe is where its outselling sony, im not saying japan isnt important because it is but im saying its not that big for ps3 to outsell 360 in japan as u think it is. Btw wii is outselling both and i dont think a 400 $ ps3 will change people maybe not as much as you think because pretty much hype for it has died down since its release to the public at least.

UT3 not coming in 2007! Sorry, I had to re-trace this thread and post this due to the ridiculous argument on UT3 being aholiday victor for the PS3. That is all.:P

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6180254.html?action=convert&om_clk=latestnews&tag=latestnews;title;0

Cry0Tek

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/NewsCom-71834.aspx#Comments

but if ut3 does get delayed yeah that will hurt. :?