but their software is crap.
ShadowDeathX
Uncharted 2, Shadows of the Colossus, and LBP2 are crap?
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Sony wil never be the giant they used to be in the video game industry. They just don't understand what consumers want anymore (at least in america).Miketheman83Sony's major flaw in the USA is PSN and social connectivity. I go onto PSN and I don't feel like Im in an online community or even interacting with friends in the most part. PSN feels like something added to the box while XBL feels like the box itself. An Xbox w/o XBL feels empty while the PS3 can survive flawlessly without PSN. America's are obsessed with social connectivity and thats why they prefer the Xbox 360.
Sony was a very backward thinking company for a very long time and only recently have they finally realized it. It is going to take them a very long time to dig themselves out of the hole they got themselves into.
TV' sales - abysmal
Sony owned the MP3 market. - Apple land now (Destroyed their lead by not innovating and introducing proprietary hardware like Mini Disks even though CD's were good enough for mainstream consumers. Then they were too late to the party for Ipod like MP3 players)
Computers - good, but very overpriced. A deadly combo for the PC world. (unless you are Apple)
Sony wants to be Apple, but lacks the brand that Apple successfully cultivated over the years.
They also invest in extremely high risk technology that can fail and not see any profit from it. Heck even Blu ray is kind of a mistake since it has no shot of becoming as successful as the DVD and wont last as long. It cost them big time with the Playstation. They sabatoged their most profitable brand for the sake of Blu ray.
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but their software is crap.
minh800
Uncharted 2, Shadows of the Colossus, and LBP2 are crap?
I'm not even talking about video game software. I'm talking about every other general softwareConsidering Sony is the only one out of the three consoles who seems to have filled this year with highly anticipated games, i find this thread rather humorous.
Nintendo has Skyward Sword
Xbox has Gears of War 3
Playstation had LittleBigPlanet 2, Killzone 3, inFamous 2, Resistance 3, Socom 4, Uncharted 3, Motorstorm: Apocolypse.
[QUOTE="daveydark"]There is no such thing as a PSP Vita.i cant wait to purchase Psp Vita.
charizard1605
I'm sure you know what hes talking about. :?
Back to topic, I wish Sony can find their way back like they were in the past where they were you know? Innovative with their products, and not just trying to make hardware that cater to what's popular on the market and sell them overpriced.
sorry sony touched your posts.
Zaibach
Best post of the thread! :lol:
On topic; I don't agree, but that's my opinion.
everything microsoft touches dies.
Rare......FASA......the list goes on.
dxmcat
we have a winner here!!!!
Sony wil never be the giant they used to be in the video game industry. They just don't understand what consumers want anymore (at least in america).Miketheman83I know right. Gamers just want to shake their hands in front their tv now while jumping up and down.
Sony wil never be the giant they used to be in the video game industry. They just don't understand what consumers want anymore (at least in america).Miketheman83
Funniest thing I read all day
whats the point of brining up the other sony divisions that arent related to sony games division in a video game forum.
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[QUOTE="locopatho"]If I was a Sony executive or shareholder I'd be worried. I'm not though so I'm fine with them losing billions by making these awesome products :PkobedaGOAT
What the point when they are losing billions year after year.
Whats the point when financial stats mean nothing to your wallet. Oh because trolling a website is the highlight of you nerds day. Not like yall actually interact with opposite sex or anything.
Can anyone can spot the irony in this post?
In my opinion the ps3 is the least mediocre of the 3 consoles... largely due to there great studios and less focus on gimmics
M1KES
Sony is all about gimmicks. The bad thing is they bash the products before they release or re-release it themselves. Remember how they bashed rumble and Nintendo wii. good times.
[QUOTE="dxmcat"]
everything microsoft touches dies.
Rare......FASA......the list goes on.
jimmypsn
Funny I think the same of Sony's products. Betamax, Move, Home, 3d. Now virtual boy products. LOL.
You do realize sony makes some of the best products in the world? More info: google Sony 4KHD cinema projectors, yeah, go ahead and TRY to talk down on Sony..[QUOTE="jimmypsn"][QUOTE="dxmcat"]
everything microsoft touches dies.
Rare......FASA......the list goes on.
Mozelleple112
Funny I think the same of Sony's products. Betamax, Move, Home, 3d. Now virtual boy products. LOL.
You do realize sony makes some of the best products in the world? More info: google Sony 4KHD cinema projectors, yeah, go ahead and TRY to talk down on Sony..I disagree. TV's. Samsung has eaten their lunch in this area. Music players. Apple is destroying Sony. Cameras. Canon's have always been better. I can go on.
You do realize sony makes some of the best products in the world? More info: google Sony 4KHD cinema projectors, yeah, go ahead and TRY to talk down on Sony..[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="jimmypsn"]
Funny I think the same of Sony's products. Betamax, Move, Home, 3d. Now virtual boy products. LOL.
jimmypsn
I disagree. TV's. Samsung has eaten their lunch in this area. Music players. Apple is destroying Sony. Cameras. Canon's have always been better. I can go on.
When it comes to TVs, Panasonic leads, Samsung's plasma certainly beats any Sony LCD, but Sony LCDs > Samsung LCDs. But that's not what I was talking about. I said cinema projectors. Why don't you even try to find better projectors than sony's lineup of 4KHD projectors?If Sony PS3 was selling well, they wouldn't have had to drop the price. Sometimes you gotta think deep and look between the lines.jimmypsn
Agreed. Plus weren't they even taking a tiny loss off of each PS Vita handheld being sold? If Sony lowers the price of the Vita to something like $200because of the 3DS being at $170, then they will probably be back in the red again, losing more money off of each Vita being sold. Sony have already bled tons of money off of PS3's. Their losses were so gigantic, that they even wiped out all the profits that they made off of both PS1 & PS2.
They can't keep on lowering the prices at the wrong time. They have, however, lowered the PS3's price to $250 at the right time this time, in which at least they're still making some profits off of each PS3 system being sold now.
[QUOTE="jimmypsn"][QUOTE="Mozelleple112"] You do realize sony makes some of the best products in the world? More info: google Sony 4KHD cinema projectors, yeah, go ahead and TRY to talk down on Sony..Mozelleple112
I disagree. TV's. Samsung has eaten their lunch in this area. Music players. Apple is destroying Sony. Cameras. Canon's have always been better. I can go on.
When it comes to TVs, Panasonic leads, Samsung's plasma certainly beats any Sony LCD, but Sony LCDs > Samsung LCDs. But that's not what I was talking about. I said cinema projectors. Why don't you even try to find better projectors than sony's lineup of 4KHD projectors?I don't know who even manufacturers cinema projectors. And I don't know much about this sort of hardware. Must be real money makers for Sony. lol
When it comes to TVs, Panasonic leads, Samsung's plasma certainly beats any Sony LCD, but Sony LCDs > Samsung LCDs. But that's not what I was talking about. I said cinema projectors. Why don't you even try to find better projectors than sony's lineup of 4KHD projectors?[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="jimmypsn"]
I disagree. TV's. Samsung has eaten their lunch in this area. Music players. Apple is destroying Sony. Cameras. Canon's have always been better. I can go on.
jimmypsn
I don't know who even manufacturers cinema projectors. And I don't know much about this sort of hardware. Must be real money makers for Sony. lol
That's not what I care about. What I do care about is that SONY corporation is the finest manufacturers when it comes to high end cinema. Many of the most advanced cinemas in the world use Sony 4KHD projectors a la SRX-S110, SRX-R110 etc. Costing around $100K. When it comes to the more wallet friendly projectors Sony is still a key player, with great projectors such as the VW line up, but JVC, Mitsubishi etc are right up there with them. The world's most advanced cinema (KSS) uses the flagship Sony SRX-T420 4096x2160p projector, and also has a Sony PS3 and a Sony Blu-ray. A lot of Sony products.. Funnily enough, no micrsoft products where used... Although he used Macbooks as media servers.[QUOTE="jimmypsn"][QUOTE="Mozelleple112"] When it comes to TVs, Panasonic leads, Samsung's plasma certainly beats any Sony LCD, but Sony LCDs > Samsung LCDs. But that's not what I was talking about. I said cinema projectors. Why don't you even try to find better projectors than sony's lineup of 4KHD projectors?Mozelleple112
I don't know who even manufacturers cinema projectors. And I don't know much about this sort of hardware. Must be real money makers for Sony. lol
That's not what I care about. What I do care about is that SONY corporation is the finest manufacturers when it comes to high end cinema. Many of the most advanced cinemas in the world use Sony 4KHD projectors a la SRX-S110, SRX-R110 etc. Costing around $100K. When it comes to the more wallet friendly projectors Sony is still a key player, with great projectors such as the VW line up, but JVC, Mitsubishi etc are right up there with them. The world's most advanced cinema (KSS) uses the flagship Sony SRX-T420 4096x2160p projector, and also has a Sony PS3 and a Sony Blu-ray. A lot of Sony products.. Funnily enough, no micrsoft products where used... Although he used Macbooks as media servers.Umm MS corporate infrastructure and software pretty much run the world metaphorically. I don't know what you're talking about. But its cool Sony is good at movie theater screens.
Umm who cares? This is a videogame forum, not a business forum.[QUOTE="jimmypsn"]
MS is intelligent about their price drops. They let other companies take the hit. Amazon walmart etc. REcently amazon had a 75 gift card with 360 purchase. NO hit to MS.
emorainbo
That post did refer to the 360 did it not.
MS is intelligent about their price drops. They let other companies take the hit. Amazon walmart etc. REcently amazon had a 75 gift card with 360 purchase. NO hit to MS.
jimmypsn
and those companies will eventually getting pissed off bout that.
[QUOTE="jimmypsn"]
MS is intelligent about their price drops. They let other companies take the hit. Amazon walmart etc. REcently amazon had a 75 gift card with 360 purchase. NO hit to MS.
razgriz_101
and those companies will eventually getting pissed off bout that.
Nah they love it. Or they wouldn't keep doing it. Xbox 360 is raking in the cash for these retail outlets.
Umm who cares? This is a videogame forum, not a business forum.[QUOTE="emorainbo"]
[QUOTE="jimmypsn"]
MS is intelligent about their price drops. They let other companies take the hit. Amazon walmart etc. REcently amazon had a 75 gift card with 360 purchase. NO hit to MS.
jimmypsn
That post did refer to the 360 did it not.
How do we relate this to us (SW)? How does this affect us? what does this have to do with gaming?[QUOTE="jimmypsn"]
[QUOTE="emorainbo"] Umm who cares? This is a videogame forum, not a business forum.
emorainbo
That post did refer to the 360 did it not.
How do we relate this to us (SW)? How does this affect us? what does this have to do with gaming?Just think about it for a sec. If sony keep hemmorhaging money in the billions year after year, how do you think that will ultimate affect their gaming division.
That's not what I care about. What I do care about is that SONY corporation is the finest manufacturers when it comes to high end cinema. Many of the most advanced cinemas in the world use Sony 4KHD projectors a la SRX-S110, SRX-R110 etc. Costing around $100K. When it comes to the more wallet friendly projectors Sony is still a key player, with great projectors such as the VW line up, but JVC, Mitsubishi etc are right up there with them. The world's most advanced cinema (KSS) uses the flagship Sony SRX-T420 4096x2160p projector, and also has a Sony PS3 and a Sony Blu-ray. A lot of Sony products.. Funnily enough, no micrsoft products where used... Although he used Macbooks as media servers.[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="jimmypsn"]
I don't know who even manufacturers cinema projectors. And I don't know much about this sort of hardware. Must be real money makers for Sony. lol
jimmypsn
Umm MS corporate infrastructure and software pretty much run the world metaphorically. I don't know what you're talking about. But its cool Sony is good at movie theater screens.
Sony: *The gods of high end cinema, make the best 4KHD projectors (SRX-S110, T420, R220, etc) * Decent cameras * The BEST LCD tvs (HX900 series almost on par with the top plasmas) * The best professional monitors (A la Sony GDM FW900) * The best CRT TVs (XBR 960) * okayish phones * Best console in the 5th gen * Best console in the 6th gen * Best console in the 7th gen * First party studios rivaling that of Nintendo. * A leader in the development of OLED * Makes the best 4KHD video cameras for professional recording. * Makes high end speakers * invented the CD * Invented the DVD * Invented Blu-ray * Invented the disc-man Probably more that I forgot. But Sony is easily one of the greatest overall companies in the world. Heck that's why they ranked #2 as the second most "trusted, loved and respected" company in the world, after Google.How do we relate this to us (SW)? How does this affect us? what does this have to do with gaming?[QUOTE="emorainbo"]
[QUOTE="jimmypsn"]
That post did refer to the 360 did it not.
jimmypsn
Just think about it for a sec. If sony keep hemmorhaging money in the billions year after year, how do you think that will ultimate affect their gaming division.
I dont see the likelihood of Sony closing its gaming division considering its profitable and has expanded its first party development more than anone else this gen.[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]
[QUOTE="jimmypsn"]
MS is intelligent about their price drops. They let other companies take the hit. Amazon walmart etc. REcently amazon had a 75 gift card with 360 purchase. NO hit to MS.
jimmypsn
and those companies will eventually getting pissed off bout that.
Nah they love it. Or they wouldn't keep doing it. Xbox 360 is raking in the cash for these retail outlets.
at the same time they essentially are the ones taking the hit on the unit sold not MS wwhich if it happens too much retailers will get cranky bout it.[QUOTE="jimmypsn"]
[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]
and those companies will eventually getting pissed off bout that.
razgriz_101
Nah they love it. Or they wouldn't keep doing it. Xbox 360 is raking in the cash for these retail outlets.
at the same time they essentially are the ones taking the hit on the unit sold not MS wwhich if it happens too much retailers will get cranky bout it.Are you just making stuff up now. You gotta link walmart, bestbuy or amazon is mad at MS for Xbox. Please do tell.
You are aware it's entirely possible that MS is reimbursing these retailers for those cupons and deals right?MS is intelligent about their price drops. They let other companies take the hit. Amazon walmart etc. REcently amazon had a 75 gift card with 360 purchase. NO hit to MS.
jimmypsn
[QUOTE="jimmypsn"]You are aware it's entirely possible that MS is reimbursing these retailers for those cupons and deals right?MS is intelligent about their price drops. They let other companies take the hit. Amazon walmart etc. REcently amazon had a 75 gift card with 360 purchase. NO hit to MS.
Jynxzor
This argument is flawed. I'll let you think about why its wrong before I respond.
I agree about Sony PR being complete crap (Stringer along with Tretton are COMPLETE ego D-bags), but by no means does it mean they are a mediocre company nor is anything else they try to do. I know Sony isn't making as much of a profit this gen as the other companies, but they still are making SOME profit, if they weren't they would cancel their platform. The PS3 is far from a failure as much as fanboys like TC (despite his name, he is really a hardcore lemming) try to make it out to be, it's a good system just like the 360 is. Neither one is "better", it's just a prefrence.
Anyways the article and website were biased and so is the OP, and along with that I honestly think that people who bash the other system do so because they are insecure about their system purchase. Come on guys, if someone walked up to you with a PS3 and a copy of Uncharted 2 and gave them to you for free you know you would take it home and enjoy it, you don't want to admit it, but it's the truth.
There are millions of Sony fans just like there are millions of MS and Nintendo fans, and while I don't agree or like everything that Sony does,I still am a fan of their products becasue it's more suited to my prefrence. And millions of others do as well,some people prefer the others, and that's perfectly fine. It's only wrong when you arrogantly assume that your prefrence is better than somebody elses.
I agree about Sony PR being complete crap (Stringer along with Tretton are COMPLETE ego D-bags), but by no means does it mean they are a mediocre company nor is anything else they try to do. I know Sony isn't making as much of a profit this gen as the other companies, but they still are making SOME profit, if they weren't they would cancel their platform. The PS3 is far from a failure as much as fanboys like TC (despite his name, he is really a hardcore lemming) try to make it out to be, it's a good system just like the 360 is. Neither one is "better", it's just a prefrence.
Anyways the article and website were biased and so is the OP, and along with that I honestly think that people who bash the other system do so because they are insecure about their system purchase. Come on guys, if someone walked up to you with a PS3 and a copy of Uncharted 2 and gave them to you for free you know you would take it home and enjoy it, you don't want to admit it, but it's the truth.
There are millions of Sony fans just like there are millions of MS and Nintendo fans, and while I don't agree or like everything that Sony does,I still am a fan of their products becasue it's more suited to my prefrence. And millions of others do as well,some people prefer the others, and that's perfectly fine. It's only wrong when you arrogantly assume that your prefrence is better than somebody elses.
ShadowMoses900
Umm you do know we are in a forum called system wars right? If these topics upset you or make you at all uncomfortable. Maybe you shouldn't post in this forum but in the general gaming forum where less of these sort of topics get posted. Why are you trying to play the high and mighty card when you already know exactly how this forum works. You're a poster with high level number of posts. You should already know what sort of topics will show up here.
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