Fallout 3 : " 360 is our lead dev platform" says Bethesda

Just curious, but is anyone who has actually played the first two games actually looking forward to this bastardization of a franchise? It seems like eveyone hyped for this game has no prior experience with the Fallout series. I could be wrong here, just an observation. drnick7

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[QUOTE="Makari"][QUOTE="Zeliard9"]It's not so much judging a book by its cover, as it is basing our opinions on the author's recent track record and comments made by him regarding said book.RobbieH1234

Bethesda called the humor in Fallout "immature". Please go do more research.

Blowing up mutants? The Dialogue was the best part of Fallout and was the bread and butter of said comedy in Fallout. The mutants blowing up was just mindless gore, not to be confused for comedy.

Blowing up mutants? The Dialogue was the best part of Fallout and was the bread and butter of said comedy in Fallout. The mutants blowing up was just mindless gore, not to be confused for comedy.

DragonfireXZ95

Hell, here's what I said about it.

In recent previews when asked to describe the humor featured in Fallout 3, Bethesda had 2 answers. "Blowing an old woman's head off, putting it on a counter and talking to it" and how "You laugh your ass off when you see a mutant's leg get blown off". That's just meaningless violence, there's nothing funny about it.RobbieH1234

And I agree about the dialogue, although I prefered the dark irony.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

Blowing up mutants? The Dialogue was the best part of Fallout and was the bread and butter of said comedy in Fallout. The mutants blowing up was just mindless gore, not to be confused for comedy.

RobbieH1234

Hell, here's what I said about it.

In recent previews when asked to describe the humor featured in Fallout 3, Bethesda had 2 answers. "Blowing an old woman's head off, putting it on a counter and talking to it" and how "You laugh your ass off when you see a mutant's leg get blown off". That's just meaningless violence, there's nothing funny about it.RobbieH1234

And I agree about the dialogue, although I prefered the dark irony.

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat!!! :evil:

Why wasn't this game created for the soon to be released 10200 NVidia N Series graphics cards. Doesn't Bethesda know that the card can literally push 3 trilliion and 1 polygons a second. I know for certain you could have created a fully realised game world with this graphics card. ME and my mate George from down the road were definitely going to buy one just for this game. It's disgusting how Bethesda have sold out. I hope they enjoy their millions from their kidbox flop60, because I for one and my mate George from down the road won't be buying it.

Bethesda is dead to me now. Excuse me while I continue my endless quest to tweak Crysis' config to push a few more frames. Soon I will realise my dream.

Hoobinator

What a pathetic attempt, try harder, fanboy.

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat!!! :evil:

Why wasn't this game created for the soon to be released 10200 NVidia N Series graphics cards. Doesn't Bethesda know that the card can literally push 3 trilliion and 1 polygons a second. I know for certain you could have created a fully realised game world with this graphics card. ME and my mate George from down the road were definitely going to buy one just for this game. It's disgusting how Bethesda have sold out. I hope they enjoy their millions from their kidbox flop60, because I for one and my mate George from down the road won't be buying it.

Bethesda is dead to me now. Excuse me while I continue my endless quest to tweak Crysis' config to push a few more frames. Soon I will realise my dream.

Hoobinator

They could have had a great game without turning it into a shooter.

The market has changed, times have changed. Making Fallout with the 360 in mind then porting onto the PC and I imagine the ps3 makes financial sense.

Coyote

Jesus, am I the only one who vists the Bethesda forums? Dan Ross, an employee at Bethesda has already announced that the game isn't being MADE on the Xbox 360 and then ported to the other platforms.

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I think there is a big misunderstanding as to what "lead platform" implies...

The market has changed, times have changed. Making Fallout with the 360 in mind then porting onto the PC and I imagine the ps3 makes financial sense.

Coyote

Jesus, am I the only one who vists the Bethesda forums? Dan Ross, an employee at Bethesda has already announced that the game isn't being MADE on the Xbox 360 and then ported to the other platforms.

I think there is a big misunderstanding as to what "lead platform" implies.

It has nothing to do with the cosmetic issues of the game or the gameplay itself. Read Pete's quote again and observe that's it's about how we handle the coding and testing of the game and which tools we use for the job...

Dan Ross

If you want a source for that, you're going to have to look it up yourself since Firefox wont let me copy and paste. So go to Bethesda forums and at the top it says Fallout General. Click that and look for the thread that says Xbox is a lead platform? His post is post 17.

Guess I'll get it on 360, then.

I don't understand why devs are still doing that, though. Leading on PS3 has proven to be much more better for the PS3 version, without hurting the 360 version in any way, not to mention it's much easier to port to 360 then the other way around.

The PC version looking the same as the console versions?

What kind of sick joke is that?

Just curious, but is anyone who has actually played the first two games actually looking forward to this bastardization of a franchise? It seems like eveyone hyped for this game has no prior experience with the Fallout series. I could be wrong here, just an observation. drnick7

Who cares? Play it, or don't.

The PC version looking the same as the console versions?

What kind of sick joke is that?

Thompsonwhore

Well, at least you don't have to worry about system requierements :)

This game is going to be fail to old fans, and win to casuals and new players. Its going to be Oblivion or Morrwind with guns.Guiltfeeder566

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foxhound fox said it best:

They alienated a whole lot of Morrowind fans with Oblivion... and alienated a whole bunch of Daggerfall fans with Morrowind. Bethesda doesn't really care about anything other than making their big buck.foxhound_fox

I was one of those daggerfall fans:cry: but I still played ES:III and IV and enjoyed them I just accepted that the old games where not coming back

[QUOTE="JakeTD21"]Here come the PC elitists.Vandalvideo

Just want you to know that you guys sound like us Metroid fans when we heard that Retro was making a First Person Metroid game.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="JakeTD21"]Here come the PC elitists.Gamingcucumber

Just want you to know that you guys sound like us Metroid fans when we heard that Retro was making a First Person Metroid game.

But they didn't bastardize metriod! Infact they took it to a next level. All the previews,interview and comments all suggest bastardization of the fallout franchise.

To All the whiners, why choose another platform other than the most profitable?wok7

Then why did they choose Xbox over the Wii? :|

To All the whiners, why choose another platform other than the most profitable?wok7

True, the profitable one must have the HD ability...

Bah... not as fun as it once was...

My friends...that is screwed.

My 8800GT Overclocked SLi can now twiddle it's thumbs.

Some hermits will bash Fallout for going the way of Oblivion and Deus Ex and becoming casual to suit the console market. And then talk about how they are getting the Hardcore version of ME, a console port, and how great it is to be a PC gamer.

Fallout 3 will not be like the first 2. But it could still be a really good game. I will buy it and try it myself to find out.

Some hermits will bash Fallout for going the way of Oblivion and Deus Ex and becoming casual to suit the console market. And then talk about how they are getting the Hardcore version of ME, a console port, and how great it is to be a PC gamer.

Fallout 3 will not be like the first 2. But it could still be a really good game. I will buy it and try it myself to find out.

Coyo7e

So.... how are your two statements in anyway relevant to each other? Mass effect was not dumbed down because it was teh first of it's franchise... :S fallout however is losing all its greatness due to consolization.

[QUOTE="wok7"]To All the whiners, why choose another platform other than the most profitable?IgGy621985

True, the profitable one must have the HD ability...

Well people don't even know that PC does the same 'HD' as consoles and TV's, so lol

To All the whiners, why choose another platform other than the most profitable?wok7

Why pick up Fallout IP when to make it sucessful on "the most profitable platform" you have to remove almost everything that made the IP what it is?

Fallout made in good old style would be most sucessful on PC by far

[QUOTE="Coyo7e"]

Some hermits will bash Fallout for going the way of Oblivion and Deus Ex and becoming casual to suit the console market. And then talk about how they are getting the Hardcore version of ME, a console port, and how great it is to be a PC gamer.

Fallout 3 will not be like the first 2. But it could still be a really good game. I will buy it and try it myself to find out.

jangojay

So.... how are your two statements in anyway relevant to each other? Mass effect was not dumbed down because it was teh first of it's franchise... :S fallout however is losing all its greatness due to consolization.

It's not just the conzolisation,it's Bethesda. They've completely gone downt he drain since Oblivion. I'm not that disaapointed over this news about Fallout,I'm dissapointed because this basically confirms how dumbed down and casual TES V will be

:(

[QUOTE="jangojay"][QUOTE="Coyo7e"]

Some hermits will bash Fallout for going the way of Oblivion and Deus Ex and becoming casual to suit the console market. And then talk about how they are getting the Hardcore version of ME, a console port, and how great it is to be a PC gamer.

Fallout 3 will not be like the first 2. But it could still be a really good game. I will buy it and try it myself to find out.

stephant_6

So.... how are your two statements in anyway relevant to each other? Mass effect was not dumbed down because it was teh first of it's franchise... :S fallout however is losing all its greatness due to consolization.

It's not just the conzolisation,it's Bethesda. They've completely gone downt he drain since Oblivion. I'm not that disaapointed over this news about Fallout,I'm dissapointed because this basically confirms how dumbed down and casual TES V will be

:(

Nothing is -dumb down-. Only hermits say stupid things like that. Sure games are a little better on PC, but not THAT much better. Get over it! Fallout 3 will fail because it isn't Interplay making it. Not because it's on consoles.

[QUOTE="stephant_6"][QUOTE="jangojay"][QUOTE="Coyo7e"]

Some hermits will bash Fallout for going the way of Oblivion and Deus Ex and becoming casual to suit the console market. And then talk about how they are getting the Hardcore version of ME, a console port, and how great it is to be a PC gamer.

Fallout 3 will not be like the first 2. But it could still be a really good game. I will buy it and try it myself to find out.

xsubtownerx

So.... how are your two statements in anyway relevant to each other? Mass effect was not dumbed down because it was teh first of it's franchise... :S fallout however is losing all its greatness due to consolization.

It's not just the conzolisation,it's Bethesda. They've completely gone downt he drain since Oblivion. I'm not that disaapointed over this news about Fallout,I'm dissapointed because this basically confirms how dumbed down and casual TES V will be

:(

Nothing is -dumb down-. Only hermits say stupid things like that. Sure games are a little better on PC, but not THAT much better. Get over it! Fallout 3 will fail because it isn't Interplay making it. Not because it's on consoles.

That's basically what I said. Wether you like it or not,Oblivin was extremely dumbed down in comparison to earlier TES titles,and Fallout 3 only enforces the new direction Bethesda is taking with their games.

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat!!! :evil:

Why wasn't this game created for the soon to be released 10200 NVidia N Series graphics cards. Doesn't Bethesda know that the card can literally push 3 trilliion and 1 polygons a second. I know for certain you could have created a fully realised game world with this graphics card. ME and my mate George from down the road were definitely going to buy one just for this game. It's disgusting how Bethesda have sold out. I hope they enjoy their millions from their kidbox flop60, because I for one and my mate George from down the road won't be buying it.

Bethesda is dead to me now. Excuse me while I continue my endless quest to tweak Crysis' config to push a few more frames. Soon I will realise my dream.

Hoobinator

In before people groaning about the console market casualizing "hardcore" PC franchises.ZeldaMaster32

I don't blame consoles.

*gasp*

No really, the problem that has occured with Fallout 3 has nothing to do with consoles. Look at Ikaruga - moving to the 360, or Command & Conqueor 3 - it's not as though we can't keep something "true" to a play experience. No, the problem is Bethesda.

It's not their game, it's not their world, it's not their vision. They're taking Fallout 3 and making it in their own vision, one that is quite similar to the same vision that created Oblivion. "But Oblivion was great" - for some - I'm not here to argue that - but imagine if you went to play Call of Duty 4 and it played just like Halo 3 - or you wanted to play some Metal Gear Solid 4, and it played like Halo 3.... you loaded up Mario... wtf... Halo 3?

Fallout fans are looking for the sty1e that made them enjoy the first two games - that Black Isle touch - but Bethesda wants to create their own interpretation of Fallout, in their own way. Even if you say "well it's a fun game" - it's not the game the fans of the series are looking foward to - Mario Sunshine was a "fun game", but not what Mario fans were looking for - they had to wait for Galaxies to really get the kind of play experience they were seeking.

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And that's just it - Bethesda saying "the 360 is our lead platform" doesn't make it the 360's fault that Fallout 3 is just a total miss - it's simple another little "tick mark" in how Fallout 3 is a bit like Shadowrun on the 360 - a game that is a radical departure from its original - even if it appears, is named, and is treated as being a similar game.

That's basically what I said. Wether you like it or not,Oblivin was extremely dumbed down in comparison to earlier TES titles,and Fallout 3 only enforces the new direction Bethesda is taking with their games.

stephant_6

They alienated a whole lot of Morrowind fans with Oblivion... and alienated a whole bunch of Daggerfall fans with Morrowind. Bethesda doesn't really care about anything other than making their big buck.foxhound_fox

I am just gonna keep posting this, They already started going down the tube with morrwind for them its whatever makes them the big bucks at the time.

[QUOTE="stephant_6"][QUOTE="jangojay"][QUOTE="Coyo7e"]

Some hermits will bash Fallout for going the way of Oblivion and Deus Ex and becoming casual to suit the console market. And then talk about how they are getting the Hardcore version of ME, a console port, and how great it is to be a PC gamer.

Fallout 3 will not be like the first 2. But it could still be a really good game. I will buy it and try it myself to find out.

xsubtownerx

So.... how are your two statements in anyway relevant to each other? Mass effect was not dumbed down because it was teh first of it's franchise... :S fallout however is losing all its greatness due to consolization.

It's not just the conzolisation,it's Bethesda. They've completely gone downt he drain since Oblivion. I'm not that disaapointed over this news about Fallout,I'm dissapointed because this basically confirms how dumbed down and casual TES V will be

:(

Nothing is -dumb down-. Only hermits say stupid things like that. Sure games are a little better on PC, but not THAT much better. Get over it! Fallout 3 will fail because it isn't Interplay making it. Not because it's on consoles.

When I say consolization I actually meant the ADD thing that devs think all console gamers have and thus need to make everything into a shooter.