[QUOTE="themajormayor"]Nice trolling dude. Can't Handle the truth? *looks at level* nvm, not worth the time :lol: Yeah somehow my low level magically gave the 3DS good games.[QUOTE="WreckEm711"] Ok, 3DS has a better current/upcoming library than the vita, and like the DS is positioned to stomp in terms of library too.... So...WreckEm711
Famitsu: The Numbers Are In, PS Vita Underperformed At Launch
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[QUOTE="g0ddyX"]Ok, 3DS has a better current/upcoming library than the vita, and like the DS is positioned to stomp in terms of library too.... So...Another thread about sales...
Let the games do the talking lol.
You can't play sales.WreckEm711
Just to quash any rumors and innuendo about the Playstation Vita's launch line up. Have a look at the titles available at launch below,
1. Escape Plan (Sony, America To-Be-Determined)
2. Everybody's Golf (Sony)
3. F1 2011
4. FIFA Football (Europe TBD)
5. Gravity Rush (America TBD)
6. Hot Shots Golf: World Invitational (America TBD)
7. Hustle Kings (Sony)
8. Little Deviants (Sony)
9. Michael Jackson: The Experience (Europe TBD)
10. ModNation Racers: Road Trip (Sony)
11. MotorStorm RC (Sony)
12. Reality Fighters (Sony)
13. Ridge Racer Vita (entitled simply "Ridge Racer")
14. Shinobido 2: Tales of the Ninja
15. Super Stardust Delta (America TBD)
16. Top Darts (Sony, America TBD)
17. Touch My Katamari
18. Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 (Europe TBD)
19. Uncharted: Golden Abyss (Sony)
20. Unit 13 (Sony)
21. WipEout 2048 (Sony)
22. Army Corp of Hell (Square Enix RPG just confirmed for EU Launch)
23. Plants vs Zombies (Launch or Launch Period?)
http://www.videogamesblogger.com/2011/12/15/playstation-vita-launch-games-list.htm
No it isn't :?Great numbers considering vita is alot more expensive than 3DS in launch
Zurrur
[QUOTE="Mario1331"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"] okay not to make you look like an idiot but the 3DS sold well during the driest month of gaming, meaning there really wasn't anything on the market for people to buy so might as well get a 3DS and the ps vita almost reached 3DS sales during the month where consumers are spending like crazy for the holidays?........... yeah i don't see the problem here Chris_Williams
i dont see it like that the 3ds sold in the driest month meaning nobody buy games then its the total opposite of selling in the holidays
there is nothing to buy, meaning people have extra dough to spend where as during the holiday season people are at their most at spending and seeing that the ps vita almost reached 3DS numbers when their at way different months is awesome for sony and even the article from gamespot is saying its doing great where as this guy is saying it underperformed, but then again cows did this say thing to the sheep so i guesshow would they have extra dough after the holidays though? i get what your saying but the vita is selling on a holiday, with a brilliant launch library, 3ds sold more with no games and the driest quarter of the year.
i get your point but i cant agree with the vita is doing better right now at launch. what i mean by that is at the same time period when they both were the same price the 3ds sold more with more disadvantages.
[QUOTE="Zaibach"]Because 54% of stock didn't sell. And its getting outsold by the 3DS this month in Japan. Sure, it outsold its predecessor but its predecessor ended up being outsold by 80 million units. You never know with these numbers, be it good/bad. But as is, when 50% of stock doesn't sell, that doesn't bode wellit had been 48 hrs.... wh,..what are you talking about? because one thing doesnt sell as much as other things doesnt mean it was a failure...? selling over 300k in 2 days, in this market flooded with smartphones and I devices against a nintendo handheld is not bad. not bad at allBecoming rather Bi-polar TC, or is this a joke thread?
Its completely outperformed its predecessor so how is it a failure?
Same for the 3DS, Its outperforming its predecessor too, where are all these doom threads coming from......?
Oh yeah, Fanboys.
bonesawisready5
[QUOTE="Mario1331"]
[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"] okay not to make you look like an idiot but the 3DS sold well during the driest month of gaming, meaning there really wasn't anything on the market for people to buy so might as well get a 3DS and the ps vita almost reached 3DS sales during the month where consumers are spending like crazy for the holidays?........... yeah i don't see the problem here santoron
i dont see it like that the 3ds sold in the driest month meaning nobody buy games then its the total opposite of selling in the holidays
Launch systems sell to the early adopters no matter when they launch. Trying to read anything into dates is futile until the initial rush dies down.
na thats not necessarily true i got 500 preorders of gears at my store and only sold through 300 the day it came out.....
im not saying it didnt sell out eventually but my point is the 3ds had way more disadvantages then sony HOWEVER the MH releasing was a big dideal probably for the vita launch weekend as well.
it did good to me though but in all honesty it underperfomed the 3ds launch with a more likely chance of having a better launch then it
So lemme get this straight. The 3DS's launch has only a 50k edge over Vita's launch, and that's supposed to be an "overwhelming landslide victory" for 3DS? Funnier still, Vita launching now meant it had to go up against a now $169 3DS, and it STILL got comparable numbers to 3DS which launched in a period where it had no direct competition. That's kind of like saying Fighter A is better than Fighter B because Fighter A fought slightly better against a inanimate punching bag than Fighter B did against a live opponent fully capable of fighting back.
nervmeister
they launced at the same price nobody is comparing 3ds now to vita now they comparing 3ds launch to vita launch
Because 54% of stock didn't sell. And its getting outsold by the 3DS this month in Japan. Sure, it outsold its predecessor but its predecessor ended up being outsold by 80 million units. You never know with these numbers, be it good/bad. But as is, when 50% of stock doesn't sell, that doesn't bode wellit had been 48 hrs.... wh,..what are you talking about, because one thing doesnt sell as much as other things doesnt mean it was a failure... selling over 300k in 2 days, in this market flooded with smartphones and I devices against a nintendo handheld is not bad. not bad at all[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"][QUOTE="Zaibach"]
Becoming rather Bi-polar TC, or is this a joke thread?
Its completely outperformed its predecessor so how is it a failure?
Same for the 3DS, Its outperforming its predecessor too, where are all these doom threads coming from......?
Oh yeah, Fanboys.
Zaibach
nobody saying it was bad once again it just didnt outsell the 3ds launch when the vita had a lot more going for it on its own launch
there is nothing to buy, meaning people have extra dough to spend where as during the holiday season people are at their most at spending and seeing that the ps vita almost reached 3DS numbers when their at way different months is awesome for sony and even the article from gamespot is saying its doing great where as this guy is saying it underperformed, but then again cows did this say thing to the sheep so i guess[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]
i dont see it like that the 3ds sold in the driest month meaning nobody buy games then its the total opposite of selling in the holidays
Mario1331
how would they have extra dough after the holidays though? i get what your saying but the vita is selling on a holiday, with a brilliant launch library, 3ds sold more with no games and the driest quarter of the year.
i get your point but i cant agree with the vita is doing better right now at launch. what i mean by that is at the same time period when they both were the same price the 3ds sold more with more disadvantages.
This is a very good point. The PSVita has launched as the better product, with the better HW, with more launch games that seem better, in a better time of year, yet still manage to sell as much as 3DS. I was getting tired of the "PSV Will crush 3DS" crap that was going on As for failure, that is a word the gloating sheep are using. In terms of performance, how did it underperform exactly? I thought that they initially sold 700K then Sony shipped 300K more? All that didn't sell out? What about 3DS in comparison the first two days? Is the measurement for underperformance coming from the hype/expectation and the comparison from the 3DS?System wars, it will blow your mind Sure, ur modest, but I recall a lot of smacktalk about how the 3DS failed and how Vita was going to be the all-purpose handheld that made purchasing a 3DS obsolete. If the Vita was exceeding 3DS sales by double the attitude here would be different[QUOTE="shakmaster13"]Doing almost as well as a company that has dominated the handheld segment for decades counts as failure. Who knew.Zaibach
System wars, it will blow your mind[QUOTE="shakmaster13"]Doing almost as well as a company that has dominated the handheld segment for decades counts as failure. Who knew.Zaibach
You forget that the PSP was extremely popular in Japan:
PSP - 15 million in Japan (as of 2009)
GBA - 16 million in Japan
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And yet the 3DS outsells the Vita even when "it's much more powerful" and "it has a much better lineup of games" and "it's during the holiday rush when everybody is buying video games."
[QUOTE="Mario1331"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"] there is nothing to buy, meaning people have extra dough to spend where as during the holiday season people are at their most at spending and seeing that the ps vita almost reached 3DS numbers when their at way different months is awesome for sony and even the article from gamespot is saying its doing great where as this guy is saying it underperformed, but then again cows did this say thing to the sheep so i guessAlpha-Male22
how would they have extra dough after the holidays though? i get what your saying but the vita is selling on a holiday, with a brilliant launch library, 3ds sold more with no games and the driest quarter of the year.
i get your point but i cant agree with the vita is doing better right now at launch. what i mean by that is at the same time period when they both were the same price the 3ds sold more with more disadvantages.
This is a very good point. The PSVita has launched as the better product, with the better HW, with more launch games that seem better, in a better time of year, yet still manage to sell as much as 3DS. I was getting tired of the "PSV Will crush 3DS" crap that was going on As for failure, that is a word the gloating sheep are using. In terms of performance, how did it underperform exactly? I thought that they initially sold 700K then Sony shipped 300K more? All that didn't sell out? What about 3DS in comparison the first two days? Is the measurement for underperformance coming from the hype/expectation and the comparison from the 3DS?3ds sold out completely the vita shipped 700k but only sold 300k plus
This is a very good point. The PSVita has launched as the better product, with the better HW, with more launch games that seem better, in a better time of year, yet still manage to sell as much as 3DS. I was getting tired of the "PSV Will crush 3DS" crap that was going on As for failure, that is a word the gloating sheep are using. In terms of performance, how did it underperform exactly? I thought that they initially sold 700K then Sony shipped 300K more? All that didn't sell out? What about 3DS in comparison the first two days? Is the measurement for underperformance coming from the hype/expectation and the comparison from the 3DS?[QUOTE="Alpha-Male22"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]
how would they have extra dough after the holidays though? i get what your saying but the vita is selling on a holiday, with a brilliant launch library, 3ds sold more with no games and the driest quarter of the year.
i get your point but i cant agree with the vita is doing better right now at launch. what i mean by that is at the same time period when they both were the same price the 3ds sold more with more disadvantages.
Mario1331
3ds sold out completely the vita shipped 700k but only sold 300k plus
Oh wow, that is disappointing. But wait, 3DS sold OUT in 2 days and in comparison, PSV did not sell out in 2 days? And they both sold the same amount... didn't 3DS have a shorter supply?[QUOTE="Zaibach"]System wars, it will blow your mind Sure, ur modest, but I recall a lot of smacktalk about how the 3DS failed and how Vita was going to be the all-purpose handheld that made purchasing a 3DS obsolete. If the Vita was exceeding 3DS sales by double the attitude here would be differentI have never talked smack about the 3DS... I have nothing to gain from it. BUt I also recall the past few weeks of PSvita is teh doomed fueled by mis-information about mem card prices and Psn accounts...I try to stay above the fray like I have always said, playing the 'but he said she said card here is pointless, Fanboys have fuzzy memory[QUOTE="shakmaster13"]Doing almost as well as a company that has dominated the handheld segment for decades counts as failure. Who knew.Alpha-Male22
Microsoft should have been prepping an Xbox themed tablet. They missed out on a big opportunity.
Sure, ur modest, but I recall a lot of smacktalk about how the 3DS failed and how Vita was going to be the all-purpose handheld that made purchasing a 3DS obsolete. If the Vita was exceeding 3DS sales by double the attitude here would be differentI have never talked smack about the 3DS... I have nothing to gain from it. BUt I also recall the past few weeks of PSvita is teh doomed fueled by mis-information about mem card prices and Psn accounts...I try to stay above the fray like I have always said, playing the 'but he said she said card here is pointless, Fanboys have fuzzy memory[QUOTE="Alpha-Male22"][QUOTE="Zaibach"]System wars, it will blow your mind
Zaibach
I did not mean you, I generally like you
You are right about the PSV is doomed stuff, but the point is that there was still smack talk about the 3DS and now some people cant handle the news.
[QUOTE="santoron"]
[QUOTE="Mario1331"]
i dont see it like that the 3ds sold in the driest month meaning nobody buy games then its the total opposite of selling in the holidays
Mario1331
Launch systems sell to the early adopters no matter when they launch. Trying to read anything into dates is futile until the initial rush dies down.
na thats not necessarily true i got 500 preorders of gears at my store and only sold through 300 the day it came out.....
im not saying it didnt sell out eventually but my point is the 3ds had way more disadvantages then sony HOWEVER the MH releasing was a big dideal probably for the vita launch weekend as well.
it did good to me though but in all honesty it underperfomed the 3ds launch with a more likely chance of having a better launch then it
?? I'm not sure what Gears has to do with the launch of a platform... much less if you sold out or not on day 1....
... but I'll stand by my statement. People that by launch systems are usually people that are buying no matter when that launch hits. Think about it. These people are buying a system when when it will be the most expensive, hardest to obtain, most likely to be defective, and with the smallest library of games, ever. You really think these guys give a hoot what month it is? Nah. Most these guys are fanboys, and that is their Precious. May, December, Augvember, or Febtober, the people wanting launch systems are gonna go get it.
This is a very good point. The PSVita has launched as the better product, with the better HW, with more launch games that seem better, in a better time of year, yet still manage to sell as much as 3DS. I was getting tired of the "PSV Will crush 3DS" crap that was going on As for failure, that is a word the gloating sheep are using. In terms of performance, how did it underperform exactly? I thought that they initially sold 700K then Sony shipped 300K more? All that didn't sell out? What about 3DS in comparison the first two days? Is the measurement for underperformance coming from the hype/expectation and the comparison from the 3DS?[QUOTE="Alpha-Male22"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]
how would they have extra dough after the holidays though? i get what your saying but the vita is selling on a holiday, with a brilliant launch library, 3ds sold more with no games and the driest quarter of the year.
i get your point but i cant agree with the vita is doing better right now at launch. what i mean by that is at the same time period when they both were the same price the 3ds sold more with more disadvantages.
Mario1331
3ds sold out completely the vita shipped 700k but only sold 300k plus
I think that 700k shipped is a rumor. I don't think Sony said they shipped 200k extra Vitas. Besides, the Vita is already doing great in Japan. Just give it some time.[QUOTE="Mario1331"]
[QUOTE="santoron"]
Launch systems sell to the early adopters no matter when they launch. Trying to read anything into dates is futile until the initial rush dies down.
santoron
na thats not necessarily true i got 500 preorders of gears at my store and only sold through 300 the day it came out.....
im not saying it didnt sell out eventually but my point is the 3ds had way more disadvantages then sony HOWEVER the MH releasing was a big dideal probably for the vita launch weekend as well.
it did good to me though but in all honesty it underperfomed the 3ds launch with a more likely chance of having a better launch then it
?? I'm not sure what Gears has to do with the launch of a platform... much less if you sold out or not on day 1....
... but I'll stand by my statement. People that by launch systems are usually people that are buying no matter when that launch hits. Think about it. These people are buying a system when when it will be the most expensive, hardest to obtain, most likely to be defective, and with the smallest library of games, ever. You really think these guys give a hoot what month it is? Nah. Most these guys are fanboys, and that is their Precious. May, December, Augvember, or Febtober, the people wanting launch systems are gonna go get it.
True, but this just reduces the significance, it doesnt eliminate it. Xmas season still affects sales and increases the # of people buying FOR the reason of Xmas[QUOTE="Mario1331"][QUOTE="Alpha-Male22"] This is a very good point. The PSVita has launched as the better product, with the better HW, with more launch games that seem better, in a better time of year, yet still manage to sell as much as 3DS. I was getting tired of the "PSV Will crush 3DS" crap that was going on As for failure, that is a word the gloating sheep are using. In terms of performance, how did it underperform exactly? I thought that they initially sold 700K then Sony shipped 300K more? All that didn't sell out? What about 3DS in comparison the first two days? Is the measurement for underperformance coming from the hype/expectation and the comparison from the 3DS?e_stone001
3ds sold out completely the vita shipped 700k but only sold 300k plus
I think that 700k shipped is a rumor. I don't think Sony said they shipped 200k extra Vitas. Besides, the Vita is already doing great in Japan. Just give it some time. Week 1 sales are always muddy, 3DS outsold week 1 but bombed following that :lol: Give it a month to see how consumers are reacting[QUOTE="Mario1331"][QUOTE="Alpha-Male22"] This is a very good point. The PSVita has launched as the better product, with the better HW, with more launch games that seem better, in a better time of year, yet still manage to sell as much as 3DS. I was getting tired of the "PSV Will crush 3DS" crap that was going on As for failure, that is a word the gloating sheep are using. In terms of performance, how did it underperform exactly? I thought that they initially sold 700K then Sony shipped 300K more? All that didn't sell out? What about 3DS in comparison the first two days? Is the measurement for underperformance coming from the hype/expectation and the comparison from the 3DS?Alpha-Male22
3ds sold out completely the vita shipped 700k but only sold 300k plus
Oh wow, that is disappointing. But wait, 3DS sold OUT in 2 days and in comparison, PSV did not sell out in 2 days? And they both sold the same amount... didn't 3DS have a shorter supply?3ds sold 50k more the psp shipped more units yes but it didnt sell out
[QUOTE="Mario1331"]
[QUOTE="santoron"]
Launch systems sell to the early adopters no matter when they launch. Trying to read anything into dates is futile until the initial rush dies down.
santoron
na thats not necessarily true i got 500 preorders of gears at my store and only sold through 300 the day it came out.....
im not saying it didnt sell out eventually but my point is the 3ds had way more disadvantages then sony HOWEVER the MH releasing was a big dideal probably for the vita launch weekend as well.
it did good to me though but in all honesty it underperfomed the 3ds launch with a more likely chance of having a better launch then it
?? I'm not sure what Gears has to do with the launch of a platform... much less if you sold out or not on day 1....
... but I'll stand by my statement. People that by launch systems are usually people that are buying no matter when that launch hits. Think about it. These people are buying a system when when it will be the most expensive, hardest to obtain, most likely to be defective, and with the smallest library of games, ever. You really think these guys give a hoot what month it is? Nah. Most these guys are fanboys, and that is their Precious. May, December, Augvember, or Febtober, the people wanting launch systems are gonna go get it.
my point is not everything sells out at launch preorders are inital buyers so thats why i brought up the gears theory.
that is not true there is different segments when games come out which are called quarters. spring and summer are usually the driest quarters.
many people dont have money after holidays because they spent most of it on holiday shopping so you reduce your potential buyers by a lot. the vita came out on the holidays so they increased their rate of potential buyers.
im not saying there arent people that buy day one devices but to say its just all aout initial buyers when something launch is wrong
It's not that It's that the PSV will not sell out in its launch month and it will be outsold for the entire month in Japan, possibly doubled by the 3DS. The 3DS is already at 580k in Japan for this month.So lemme get this straight. The 3DS's launch has only a 50k edge over Vita's launch, and that's supposed to be an "overwhelming landslide victory" for 3DS? Funnier still, Vita launching now meant it had to go up against a now $169 3DS, and it STILL got comparable numbers to 3DS which launched in a period where it had no direct competition. That's kind of like saying Fighter A is better than Fighter B because Fighter A fought slightly better against a inanimate punching bag than Fighter B did against a live opponent fully capable of fighting back.
nervmeister
Oh wow, that is disappointing. But wait, 3DS sold OUT in 2 days and in comparison, PSV did not sell out in 2 days? And they both sold the same amount... didn't 3DS have a shorter supply?[QUOTE="Alpha-Male22"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]
3ds sold out completely the vita shipped 700k but only sold 300k plus
Mario1331
3ds sold 50k more the psp shipped more units yes but it didnt sell out
So where is the underperformance coming from? Expectation? Hype? Selling equal to Nintendo?[QUOTE="Mario1331"][QUOTE="Alpha-Male22"] Oh wow, that is disappointing. But wait, 3DS sold OUT in 2 days and in comparison, PSV did not sell out in 2 days? And they both sold the same amount... didn't 3DS have a shorter supply?Alpha-Male22
3ds sold 50k more the psp shipped more units yes but it didnt sell out
So where is the underperformance coming from? Expectation? Hype? Selling equal to Nintendo? Pretty much. A launch month, week, is guaranteed success. Either way you look at units shipped means the PSV sold 2/3rd stock, leaving 1/3 on store shelves. Now, had the PSV sold out at 500k, you could say its no big deal the 3DS outsold in December in Japan due to supply constraints. That is the issue, there is no supply constraints yet. So if the PSV goes on to sell, I dunno 450k in this month in Japan and the 3DS sells 800k-1 million units with the PSV not selling out than it seems disappointing that in the region the PSP was most popular its successor couldn't sell out during the peak of its hype, and couldn't keep up with the 3DS that, in a lot of people's eyes, still has a small library of good games. I mean, the idea that the PSV's launch line up, which looks great regardless of whether the title interest me personally or not, couldn't push more units has to say something.[QUOTE="Mario1331"][QUOTE="Alpha-Male22"] Oh wow, that is disappointing. But wait, 3DS sold OUT in 2 days and in comparison, PSV did not sell out in 2 days? And they both sold the same amount... didn't 3DS have a shorter supply?Alpha-Male22
3ds sold 50k more the psp shipped more units yes but it didnt sell out
So where is the underperformance coming from? Expectation? Hype? Selling equal to Nintendo? Fanboys. Besides, who cares about sales. Games is what truly makes a console/handheld. All I want is the PS Vita in the palm of my hands on Feb 22nd.[QUOTE="Alpha-Male22"][QUOTE="Mario1331"]So where is the underperformance coming from? Expectation? Hype? Selling equal to Nintendo? Pretty much. A launch month, week, is guaranteed success. Either way you look at units shipped means the PSV sold 2/3rd stock, leaving 1/3 on store shelves. Now, had the PSV sold out at 500k, you could say its no big deal the 3DS outsold in December in Japan due to supply constraints. That is the issue, there is no supply constraints yet. So if the PSV goes on to sell, I dunno 450k in this month in Japan and the 3DS sells 800k-1 million units with the PSV not selling out than it seems disappointing that in the region the PSP was most popular its successor couldn't sell out during the peak of its hype, and couldn't keep up with the 3DS that, in a lot of people's eyes, still has a small library of good games. I mean, the idea that the PSV's launch line up, which looks great regardless of whether the title interest me personally or not, couldn't push more units has to say something.3ds sold 50k more the psp shipped more units yes but it didnt sell out
bonesawisready5
Shouldnt this be compared to the 3DS' launch as opposed to the 3DS' current state?
Pretty much. A launch month, week, is guaranteed success. Either way you look at units shipped means the PSV sold 2/3rd stock, leaving 1/3 on store shelves. Now, had the PSV sold out at 500k, you could say its no big deal the 3DS outsold in December in Japan due to supply constraints. That is the issue, there is no supply constraints yet. So if the PSV goes on to sell, I dunno 450k in this month in Japan and the 3DS sells 800k-1 million units with the PSV not selling out than it seems disappointing that in the region the PSP was most popular its successor couldn't sell out during the peak of its hype, and couldn't keep up with the 3DS that, in a lot of people's eyes, still has a small library of good games. I mean, the idea that the PSV's launch line up, which looks great regardless of whether the title interest me personally or not, couldn't push more units has to say something.[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"][QUOTE="Alpha-Male22"] So where is the underperformance coming from? Expectation? Hype? Selling equal to Nintendo?Alpha-Male22
Shouldnt this be compared to the 3DS' launch as opposed to the 3DS' current state?
Yeah, but what people are saying is that the 3DS outsold the Vita by 50k in 2 days and plus the 3DS was sold out while the Vita hasn't, plus the Vita has 2 SKUs as opposed the the 3DS' 1 SKU. The Wi-Fi version of the Vita is outselling the 3G version by almost 30% in sales. Also, the Vita is releasing around the holidays and ppl don't have the cash to go out and buy one right now because that. Next month will be the moment of truth.Pretty much. A launch month, week, is guaranteed success. Either way you look at units shipped means the PSV sold 2/3rd stock, leaving 1/3 on store shelves. Now, had the PSV sold out at 500k, you could say its no big deal the 3DS outsold in December in Japan due to supply constraints. That is the issue, there is no supply constraints yet. So if the PSV goes on to sell, I dunno 450k in this month in Japan and the 3DS sells 800k-1 million units with the PSV not selling out than it seems disappointing that in the region the PSP was most popular its successor couldn't sell out during the peak of its hype, and couldn't keep up with the 3DS that, in a lot of people's eyes, still has a small library of good games. I mean, the idea that the PSV's launch line up, which looks great regardless of whether the title interest me personally or not, couldn't push more units has to say something.[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"][QUOTE="Alpha-Male22"] So where is the underperformance coming from? Expectation? Hype? Selling equal to Nintendo?Alpha-Male22
Shouldnt this be compared to the 3DS' launch as opposed to the 3DS' current state?
I guess, but this is today. Of course you compare it to what the 3DS is selling today, Because they're competiting with each other and its the first time they've been on the market at the same time. Why wouldn't you compare it to what the 3DS is selling today? They are competitors. Also the idea that people are strapped for cash due to the holidays and not buying Vita's is so silly, some other poster said that. Its the holidays. Also, I don't believe Xmas is as big in Japan (not sure) nor do the Japanese have any silly black friday shopping. So by all means, the holidays should only help sales.[QUOTE="Alpha-Male22"][QUOTE="bonesawisready5"] Pretty much. A launch month, week, is guaranteed success. Either way you look at units shipped means the PSV sold 2/3rd stock, leaving 1/3 on store shelves. Now, had the PSV sold out at 500k, you could say its no big deal the 3DS outsold in December in Japan due to supply constraints. That is the issue, there is no supply constraints yet. So if the PSV goes on to sell, I dunno 450k in this month in Japan and the 3DS sells 800k-1 million units with the PSV not selling out than it seems disappointing that in the region the PSP was most popular its successor couldn't sell out during the peak of its hype, and couldn't keep up with the 3DS that, in a lot of people's eyes, still has a small library of good games. I mean, the idea that the PSV's launch line up, which looks great regardless of whether the title interest me personally or not, couldn't push more units has to say something. e_stone001
Shouldnt this be compared to the 3DS' launch as opposed to the 3DS' current state?
Yeah, but what people are saying is that the 3DS outsold the Vita by 50k in 2 days and plus the 3DS was sold out while the Vita hasn't, plus the Vita has 2 SKUs as opposed the the 3DS' 1 SKU. The Wi-Fi version of the Vita is outselling the 3G version by almost 30% in sales. Also, the Vita is releasing around the holidays and ppl don't have the cash to go out and buy one right now because that. Next month will be the moment of truth. People are spending more during the holidays, or perhaps if they are strapped for cash its because they bought 600k 3DS units in the first ten days of december
These are not terrible sales, but what's funny is how cows were talking about how the Vita was going to dominate the 3DS and now they're saying stuff like, "That's pretty good for a company that doesn't dominate the handheld market" or "they almost did as well", etc. etc. lol.
It's a complete turnaround from their earlier attitude. And they level the fanboy allegation at sheep. That's rich.These are not terrible sales, but what's funny is how cows were talking about how the Vita was going to dominate the 3DS and now they're saying stuff like, "That's pretty good for a company that doesn't dominate the handheld market" or "they almost did as well", etc. etc. lol.
GreySeal9
Yeah, people have to be careful by saying stuff like that. Besides, it's not just cows, but sheep as well saying how the Vita is doomed and all and the fact that it wouldn't have any games after it launches since the Vita has one of the best lineups ever. What they're forgetting is that the Vita has some heavy hitters after it launches that will be only on the Vita to utilize its features like a new AS and BioShock game for it.These are not terrible sales, but what's funny is how cows were talking about how the Vita was going to dominate the 3DS and now they're saying stuff like, "That's pretty good for a company that doesn't dominate the handheld market" or "they almost did as well", etc. etc. lol.
GreySeal9
[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]Yeah, people have to be careful by saying stuff like that. Besides, it's not just cows, but sheep as well saying how the Vita is doomed and all and the fact that it wouldn't have any games after it launches since the Vita has one of the best lineups ever. What they're forgetting is that the Vita has some heavy hitters after it launches that will be only on the Vita to utilize its features like a new AS and BioShock game for it. I'm not saying the Vita won't do well. I'm saying it will do at least as well as the PSP. I have been calling its launch lineup the best launch lineup ever. I am getting one at launch. Which is why these allegations of fanboy irk me so much. What I AM doing with this thread is shutting up the cow haters according to whom the 3DS has been doomed since day one, and the Vita is the handheld to end all handhelds.These are not terrible sales, but what's funny is how cows were talking about how the Vita was going to dominate the 3DS and now they're saying stuff like, "That's pretty good for a company that doesn't dominate the handheld market" or "they almost did as well", etc. etc. lol.
e_stone001
[QUOTE="e_stone001"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]Yeah, people have to be careful by saying stuff like that. Besides, it's not just cows, but sheep as well saying how the Vita is doomed and all and the fact that it wouldn't have any games after it launches since the Vita has one of the best lineups ever. What they're forgetting is that the Vita has some heavy hitters after it launches that will be only on the Vita to utilize its features like a new AS and BioShock game for it. I'm not saying the Vita won't do well. I'm saying it will do at least as well as the PSP. I have been calling its launch lineup the best launch lineup ever. I am getting one at launch. Which is why these allegations of fanboy irk me so much. What I AM doing with this thread is shutting up the cow haters according to whom the 3DS has been doomed since day one, and the Vita is the handheld to end all handhelds. I know it's not you charizard, but we both know those people hating on both the Vita and the 3DS.These are not terrible sales, but what's funny is how cows were talking about how the Vita was going to dominate the 3DS and now they're saying stuff like, "That's pretty good for a company that doesn't dominate the handheld market" or "they almost did as well", etc. etc. lol.
charizard1605
[QUOTE="e_stone001"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] I'm not saying the Vita won't do well. I'm saying it will do at least as well as the PSP. I have been calling its launch lineup the best launch lineup ever. I am getting one at launch. Which is why these allegations of fanboy irk me so much. What I AM doing with this thread is shutting up the cow haters according to whom the 3DS has been doomed since day one, and the Vita is the handheld to end all handhelds.charizard1605I know it's not you charizard, but we both know those people hating on both the Vita and the 3DS. I know, they're on both sides. Both sides come up with laughable attempts at ownage. The DS and PSP proved that two handhelds can co-exist. The Vita and 3DS will do just fine, and each will supplement the other. Traditional handheld gaming is not going anywhere.
I really like handheld gaming, ever since my GBA SP. I like that it offers a different type of gaming from main consoles, it can concentrate on more traditional or "old school" genres and it's kind of refreshing because of that. Also, laying in bed and playing is great, or playing on the bus, or if you go away somewhere it's a lot easier to just grab one of these than drag your 360 or PS3 around with you.
I want both portables to do well, so we can have the best generation ever, despite the smart phones and their very lacking control methods.
There you are, I've been waiting for you to post here :evil:This thread is amazing. It just delivered in so many ways.
timmy00
[QUOTE="timmy00"]There you are, I've been waiting for you to post here :evil:Sorry I was too busy laughing my ass off. I just woke up and read through the thread again.This thread is amazing. It just delivered in so many ways.
charizard1605
We need more posters like AtariKid!
There you are, I've been waiting for you to post here :evil:Sorry I was too busy laughing my ass off. I just woke up and read through the thread again.[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="timmy00"]
This thread is amazing. It just delivered in so many ways.
timmy00
We need more posters like AtariKid!
I swear. This really has been one of the funniest threads around in a while.[QUOTE="Mario1331"][QUOTE="Alpha-Male22"] Oh wow, that is disappointing. But wait, 3DS sold OUT in 2 days and in comparison, PSV did not sell out in 2 days? And they both sold the same amount... didn't 3DS have a shorter supply?Alpha-Male22
3ds sold 50k more the psp shipped more units yes but it didnt sell out
So where is the underperformance coming from? Expectation? Hype? Selling equal to Nintendo?to its competition it didnt sell more then the 3ds when it launched and theya re equal prices
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