Fez Creator: 3DS is a gigantic gimmick.

[QUOTE="Yangire"]

Cool, but it's still getting better games than pretty much anything else right now.

GD1551

Not really, the line up is mostly a bunch of low tier japanese games. It's one of the most overblown and overrated line ups for quite sometime.

And 3DS has been outselling the Vita by up to 8:1 every week except for two weeks since the latter launched: The Vita's launch week and last week with the huge price drop in Japan.

Gotta love people that think hardware power = good games. :P

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="APiranhaAteMyVa"] There is a difference between weaker hardware such as PS2 and last gen hardware. The former plays games at an advanced level that was well beyond what we saw beforehand allowing for the first time games like GTA3 and Shadow of the Colossus, the latter means we are playing Gamecube games (not just graphically but gameplay wise) for two gens in a row (and now 3 with the 3DS) The Wii may have had more games but they was mostly terrible, the 360/PS3 got far more quality games. The 3DS has one analog stick and only two shoulder buttons so it really is like an N64 controller and limited as such.APiranhaAteMyVa

This guy needs to just shut up. He's one of the most arrogant indie game developers out there. 

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="Yangire"]

Cool, but it's still getting better games than pretty much anything else right now.

svaubel

Not really, the line up is mostly a bunch of low tier japanese games. It's one of the most overblown and overrated line ups for quite sometime.

And 3DS has been outselling the Vita by up to 8:1 every week except for two weeks since the latter launched: The Vita's launch week and last week with the huge price drop in Japan.

Gotta love people that think hardware power = good games. :P

It's really only a gimmick until someone utilizes the hardware in a way that can't be done elsewhere.

I remember the DS was a gimmick for a long time because the 2nd screen was just relegated to maps, or inventory screens, and really only served to skip the step of pressing Start to view that stuff on a single screen.

But the DS was awesome! True 1:1 control in FPS games which you get on no other console controller in history (thanks to the touch screen), you could play a legit real-time strategy game, and then there were games where you held the DS like a book, and new games sprouted up over that as well.

Then the DS went on to have the most high-rated exclusives of any system (other than the PC) last gen, and had so many experiences you really just couldn't quite get elsewhere.

Eventually the 3DS will get it's showcase game.......Well, maybe not, but the point is it's not really something you can conclude before a system's lifespan is over.

No. A second stick would make games control better and you wouldn't have to deal with these awkward control schemes. They should've properly designed it from the start.freedomfreak

What about games that don't use a second stick? The design is already cramped enough as it is. You can't shove anything else on it. I don't like the CPP, but it's better than making the entire thing cramped for a vast minority of games.

The Vita pulls it off perfectly.freedomfreak

Vita doesn't need to be folded, and it's also wider. It has more space.

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"] No. A second stick would make games control better and you wouldn't have to deal with these awkward control schemes. They should've properly designed it from the start.ChubbyGuy40

What about games that don't use a second stick? The design is already cramped enough as it is. You can't shove anything else on it. I don't like the CPP, but it's better than making the entire thing cramped for a vast minority of games.

Second stick should have gone across the first one and just have the buttons moved down.

Started playing my first monster hunter game last night. on 3DS. its not exactly playable without that circle pad pro atrocity i dont understand. why would you even release a game like that on a platform like that? why is it not out on lets say vita? you know, the one where you could control the camera. its too bad because MH looks like its basically phantasy star online but not in space. and i love me some PSO. the whole entire thing was a mistake if you ask me.

Also, im so sick of this dual-screen clamshell **** a 2nd screen adds NOTHING. its a gimmick. 3D is a gimmick. its too bad the vita isnt a bigger hit because hardware wise its PERFECT. it has ONE AWESOME SCREEN, and TWO JOYSTICKS. theres never been a single DS or 3DS that didnt make me go i wish this was on a single screen. and ive never played any game ever anywhere where i was like i wish this had a 2nd screen. and absolutely f@$#ing NOBODY ever went i wish this had 2nd screen that is smaller and a different aspect ration and touch but not 3D the gameboy micro was the best handheld ever. i wish nintendo would just make a slightly bigger more powerful GBAM-type thing. GD1551

 

He's right, the 3DS doesn't really brings nothing to the table with the second screen or 3D. The Vita is a much more attractive option hardware wise.

Second stick should have gone across the first one and just have the buttons moved down.

Blabadon

[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="LastRambo341"] Second stick would have changed the design of games and make them pure console portsfreedomfreak

Better than "should have a second stick" and no valid arguments.

The touch screen can be used for the camera

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="Blabadon"] That's a mighty reach.LastRambo341

Better than "should have a second stick" and no valid arguments.

There is no 3DS game that is purely hindered by the single analogue stick. MGS3 is debatable

Monster Hunter... it's even in the OP.

[spoiler] Reach further. [/spoiler]

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"]

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"] Yes. That is a "ran out of arguments" argument.Clock-w0rk

Better than "should have a second stick" and no valid arguments.

There is no 3DS game that is purely hindered by the single analogue stick. MGS3 is debatable

Monster Hunter... it's even in the OP.

[spoiler] Reach further. [/spoiler]

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="Yangire"]

Cool, but it's still getting better games than pretty much anything else right now.

svaubel

Not really, the line up is mostly a bunch of low tier japanese games. It's one of the most overblown and overrated line ups for quite sometime.

And 3DS has been outselling the Vita by up to 8:1 every week except for two weeks since the latter launched: The Vita's launch week and last week with the huge price drop in Japan.

Gotta love people that think hardware power = good games. :P

Actually didn't the Wii lose most of the games this gen because of hardware power? It doesn't directly translate to good games but it does aid in getting them. Also the 3DS had a massive price cut (even more than the VITAs) to be selling those numbers, I don't see why anyone finds it surprising that the VITA is being outsold, even by that amount.

[QUOTE="Big_Pecks"]

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Hmm? What does that have to do with anything he said?

APiranhaAteMyVa

Actually there is a couple aspects of the design the 3DS does better, but not many. For one, I prefer the 3DS slide pad to the Vitas thumbsticks and I slightly prefer the face buttons as well, though I only had about half an hour with the vita and I haven't got one just yet. The 3DS also actually has some storage, in the form of about 1 GB of memory & at least a 2GB SD card (though thats less design and more actually including something).

Other than those three things though I pretty much prefer what the Vita offer but then it also has a higher starting point so I expect more (it exceeds my expectations in fact) whilst I picked up my 3DS because I busted my DS and the difference between it and a new DSi were £20 (obviously the promise of upcoming games was interesting as well). For price reference, my 3DS with game was £150 while a vita with game and 4GB memory card is £210.

The lack of dual analog isn't ideal, but I like the second screen because it means you don't end up concealing some of the screen with your fingers like on a smartphone. It's also useful to have a map/other info accessible at any time without having to pause.

[QUOTE="Big_Pecks"]

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Hmm? What does that have to do with anything he said?

APiranhaAteMyVa

Man...this thread. Wow. It's ok sheep...

Looking at my 3DS and Vita right now, I'd much rather have all the third party support on the superior hardware. I think anyone who just wants the best experiences in their games would.

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="LastRambo341"] Kid Icarus got criticized by ALL players? Nope. It is a preference MH addresses those issues by offering the Dpad as a camera, the touchscreen as a camera and the lock-on feature Revelations plays like RE4. The CPP is a personal preference, just like an arcade stick. The 2nd screen differentiates the 3DSAparthide

Why do you keep arguing with him? Just stop. He's clearly retarded. According to his logic not a single game or anything else for that matter has any faults because not ALL people find it so.