Fez Creator: 3DS is a gigantic gimmick.

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#151 Aparthide
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[QUOTE="Aparthide"]

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"] You're really not getting my point. What you have just posted offers nothing. LastRambo341

Why do you keep arguing with him? Just stop. He's clearly retarded. According to his logic not a single game or anything else for that matter has any faults because not ALL people find it so.

:lol: hahahahahahha aww the lil monkey made a joke? :P Want a banana?

I don't make jokes. I just paraphrased what you said.
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#152 Jipset
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Haha I remember this guy from that indie game documentary. He gets super emotional and obsesses over ******* EVERYTHING. He might be right, but geez... he should calm down.
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#153 Blabadon
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This thread has inspired another one.
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#154 mems_1224
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Is there a point to this thread other than stating the obvious? Of course the vita is more attractive hardware wise. Too bad its still waaaaaaay behind when it comes to games and pricing. Also, Phil Fish is a douche. Even when he's right he sounds like a prick
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#155 Bigboi500
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Phil is just jelly.

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#156 GD1551
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Is there a point to this thread other than stating the obvious? Of course the vita is more attractive hardware wise. Too bad its still waaaaaaay behind when it comes to games and pricing. Also, Phil Fish is a douche. Even when he's right he sounds like a prick mems_1224

Yes, the point is to bash nintendo.

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#157 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"]Is there a point to this thread other than stating the obvious? Of course the vita is more attractive hardware wise. Too bad its still waaaaaaay behind when it comes to games and pricing. Also, Phil Fish is a douche. Even when he's right he sounds like a prick GD1551

Yes, the point is to bash nintendo.

You did a really bad job then.
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#158 GD1551
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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]Is there a point to this thread other than stating the obvious? Of course the vita is more attractive hardware wise. Too bad its still waaaaaaay behind when it comes to games and pricing. Also, Phil Fish is a douche. Even when he's right he sounds like a prick mems_1224

Yes, the point is to bash nintendo.

You did a really bad job then.

I didn't do the bashing, fez creator did.

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#159 Blake135
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Agreed :P

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#160 DropsofJupiter
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Doesn't change the fact that it has the best games on the market right now.
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#161 jessejay420
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I bet the TC got a major hard on while reading that.RyanShazam
lol
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#162 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="GD1551"]

Yes, the point is to bash nintendo.

GD1551

You did a really bad job then.

I didn't do the bashing, fez creator did.

can't you call him by the name, like everyone else?
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#163 SaltyMeatballs
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"] No. A second stick would make games control better and you wouldn't have to deal with these awkward control schemes. They should've properly designed it from the start.freedomfreak

What about games that don't use a second stick? The design is already cramped enough as it is. You can't shove anything else on it. I don't like the CPP, but it's better than making the entire thing cramped for a vast minority of games.

"Should've properly designed it from the start" Read that.

I agree, no second analogue stick was stupid stubborn Nintendo just being arrogant after destroying all competition with the DS. They should have learned from PSP, every asked for it, they bring 3DS which can now do proper 3D worlds not gimped like DS and leave out a second analogue... not surprised that some games are better with CCP.
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#164 GD1551
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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] You did a really bad job then. BrunoBRS

I didn't do the bashing, fez creator did.

can't you call him by the name, like everyone else?

What difference does it make?

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#165 funsohng
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To me, Fez creator is like indie game dev version of Michael Pachter.
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#166 GD1551
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Doesn't change the fact that it has the best games on the market right now.DropsofJupiter

Doesn't have a single AAA game, I mean the latest hyped up 3DS game got 6.5 :|

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#167 funsohng
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[QUOTE="DropsofJupiter"]Doesn't change the fact that it has the best games on the market right now.GD1551

Doesn't have a single AAA game, I mean the latest hyped up 3DS game got 6.5 :|

Yes because market = GS score
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#168 DropsofJupiter
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[QUOTE="DropsofJupiter"]Doesn't change the fact that it has the best games on the market right now.GD1551

Doesn't have a single AAA game, I mean the latest hyped up 3DS game got 6.5 :|

So? I could easily point to Metacritic, or to the scores of 3DS games Gamespot has flat out not reviewed, I could point to Gamespot's general handheld bias, I could point to a lot of things that would prove that Gamespot scores are meaningless in context of a 3DS game discussion, and that it still has some incredible games anyway, but your only aim with this thread, as with all your other threads, is to troll Nintendo, something you have admitted, so why should I bother engaging you in any sort of a discussion?
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#169 205212669269561485377169522720
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[QUOTE="DropsofJupiter"]Doesn't change the fact that it has the best games on the market right now.GD1551

Doesn't have a single AAA game, I mean the latest hyped up 3DS game got 6.5 :|

Shhh... You'll ruin the magic and burst the bubble! 

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#170 nhh18
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To me, Fez creator is like indie game dev version of Michael Pachter.funsohng
dev version of maher or bill o'reilly. The guy is a total clown. Between him and bioware pr, they both leave me speechless. 

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#171 205212669269561485377169522720
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so why should I bother engaging you in any sort of a discussion?DropsofJupiter

1. Posts in the thread

2. Quotes the guy

3. Questions himself

... You're welcome. :|

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#172 GD1551
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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="DropsofJupiter"]Doesn't change the fact that it has the best games on the market right now.DropsofJupiter

Doesn't have a single AAA game, I mean the latest hyped up 3DS game got 6.5 :|

So? I could easily point to Metacritic, or to the scores of 3DS games Gamespot has flat out not reviewed, I could point to Gamespot's general handheld bias, I could point to a lot of things that would prove that Gamespot scores are meaningless in context of a 3DS game discussion, and that it still has some incredible games anyway, but your only aim with this thread, as with all your other threads, is to troll Nintendo, something you have admitted, so why should I bother engaging you in any sort of a discussion?

Gamespot has a bias? Where did you get that from? So far the 3DS has a bunch of ports, inferior versions of existing franchises, and games like bravely default.. I don't see how you can even say it has the best line up. The xbox has a better lineup this year, not to mention the vita has games like Soul Sacrifice, Gravity Rush and Sound shapes, new awesome unique IPs instead of the same rehashed stuff over and over.

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#173 SaltyMeatballs
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3DS is better.
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#174 DropsofJupiter
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[QUOTE="DropsofJupiter"] so why should I bother engaging you in any sort of a discussion?sanim02

1. Posts in the thread

2. Quotes the guy

3. Questions himself

... You're welcome. :|

My post in the thread was intended to be a response to the OP, which I read before I read TC's post stating that his sole aim with the thread was to troll Nintendo. Once I read that, I realized the futility of responding to him, so I called him out on it, and broke the discussion off. It's simple if you, I don't know, stop to think about it.
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#175 Assassin_87
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Phil Fish is an idiot. Who cares what he thinks?

...oh, wait, he thinks the 3DS sucks?

Cool guy. Would drink beer with him. The 3DS is awful. Just look at the games sheep are getting excited about for proof. Fire Emblem? LOL

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#176 DropsofJupiter
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Gamespot has a bias? Where did you get that from? So far the 3DS has a bunch of ports, inferior versions of existing franchises, and games like bravely default.. I don't see how you can even say it has the best line up. The xbox has a better lineup this year, not to mention the vita has games like Soul Sacrifice, Gravity Rush and Sound shapes, new awesome unique IPs instead of the same rehashed stuff over and over.

GD1551
So a game like Bravely Default is dismissed, but a game like Soul Sacrifice is held up as some golden standard... why exactly? What inferior versions of any franchise does 3DS have, exactly? It has the best Fire Emblem, the best Mario Kart in a while, the best Resident Evil in a while, the best Kid Icarus in a while, the best Kingdom Hearts since Birth by Sleep, and it has quirky new IPs and games, both retail and digital, like Rhythm Thief and Pushmo, it has games in existing franchises that are great. The problem is you, and some other posters in this thread (but only a very few) are so hell bent on trolling either all things Nintendo or all things not Sony that you will consciously shut your eyes t what is not only indisputably a great lineup catering to all styles of gamers and genres, but a better lineup than the PS Vita's in the current moment in time. Like I said, engaging you in a discussion is pointless, because you, like some other posters in this thread, are determined to troll needlessly even in the face of dissenting facts. This will therefore be my last post to you.
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#177 GD1551
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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

 

Gamespot has a bias? Where did you get that from? So far the 3DS has a bunch of ports, inferior versions of existing franchises, and games like bravely default.. I don't see how you can even say it has the best line up. The xbox has a better lineup this year, not to mention the vita has games like Soul Sacrifice, Gravity Rush and Sound shapes, new awesome unique IPs instead of the same rehashed stuff over and over.

DropsofJupiter

So a game like Bravely Default is dismissed, but a game like Soul Sacrifice is held up as some golden standard... why exactly? What inferior versions of any franchise does 3DS have, exactly? It has the best Fire Emblem, the best Mario Kart in a while, the best Resident Evil in a while, the best Kid Icarus in a while, the best Kingdom Hearts since Birth by Sleep, and it has quirky new IPs and games, both retail and digital, like Rhythm Thief and Pushmo, it has games in existing franchises that are great. The problem is you, and some other posters in this thread (but only a very few) are so hell bent on trolling either all things Nintendo or all things not Sony that you will consciously shut your eyes t what is not only indisputably a great lineup catering to all styles of gamers and genres, but a better lineup than the PS Vita's in the current moment in time. Like I said, engaging you in a discussion is pointless, because you, like some other posters in this thread, are determined to troll needlessly even in the face of dissenting facts. This will therefore be my last post to you.

lol I like how you keep saying in "a while". Also it definitely doesn't have the best FE, and soul sacrifice is held up to a golden standard because it is that good, it's a new IP, that has great visuals, gameplay, sound and atmosphere. Bravely default is dismissed because it looks generic and has a very ugly chibi artstyle. Soul Sacrifice on the other hand is what japan should be doing more of and man don't even bring up RE:R that game is just average.

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#178 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="DropsofJupiter"][QUOTE="GD1551"]

 

Gamespot has a bias? Where did you get that from? So far the 3DS has a bunch of ports, inferior versions of existing franchises, and games like bravely default.. I don't see how you can even say it has the best line up. The xbox has a better lineup this year, not to mention the vita has games like Soul Sacrifice, Gravity Rush and Sound shapes, new awesome unique IPs instead of the same rehashed stuff over and over.

GD1551

So a game like Bravely Default is dismissed, but a game like Soul Sacrifice is held up as some golden standard... why exactly? What inferior versions of any franchise does 3DS have, exactly? It has the best Fire Emblem, the best Mario Kart in a while, the best Resident Evil in a while, the best Kid Icarus in a while, the best Kingdom Hearts since Birth by Sleep, and it has quirky new IPs and games, both retail and digital, like Rhythm Thief and Pushmo, it has games in existing franchises that are great. The problem is you, and some other posters in this thread (but only a very few) are so hell bent on trolling either all things Nintendo or all things not Sony that you will consciously shut your eyes t what is not only indisputably a great lineup catering to all styles of gamers and genres, but a better lineup than the PS Vita's in the current moment in time. Like I said, engaging you in a discussion is pointless, because you, like some other posters in this thread, are determined to troll needlessly even in the face of dissenting facts. This will therefore be my last post to you.

lol I like how you keep saying in "a while". Also it definitely doesn't have the best FE, and soul sacrifice is held up to a golden standard because it is that good, it's a new IP, that has great visuals, gameplay, sound and atmosphere. Bravely default is dismissed because it looks generic and has a very ugly chibi artstyle. Soul Sacrifice on the other hand is what japan should be doing more of and man don't even bring up RE:R that game is just average.

:lol: keep trollin' and grasping at straws.

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#179 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="DropsofJupiter"]Doesn't change the fact that it has the best games on the market right now.funsohng

Doesn't have a single AAA game, I mean the latest hyped up 3DS game got 6.5 :|

Yes because market = GS score

:lol: I love people that base their opinions of games based on GS scores
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#180 GD1551
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:lol: I love people that base their opinions of games based on GS scoresmems_1224

What's wrong with that?

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#181 GD1551
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:lol: keep trollin' and grasping at straws.

Bigboi500

Except I'm not trolling?

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#182 g0ddyX
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Well the 3D is a gimmick on it, no doubt there.
The younger audience is tied into the 3DS.
For those saying 'it has games'.. Better games equate to having better hardware too.

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#183 Wanderer5
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I think the second screen is great and useful of putting stuff that for examplewith one screen you have to pause for or give the top screen some more space. The use of 3D could be use better but it is really nice in some games like Super Mario 3D Land and Fire Emblem. I never have much issue with the one analog, through regarding Monster Hunter, the underwater fight in the demo was a pain in the ass.

I don't really like Phil Fish overall through even if Fez looks good. And it not like Vita doesn't have some gimmick too like the back touchpad. 

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#184 Blake135
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Part of me wishes they kept making the GameBoy with better hardware/controls.

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#185 Obviously_Right
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Doesn't change the fact that it has the best games on the market right now.DropsofJupiter

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#186 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

:lol: keep trollin' and grasping at straws.

GD1551

Except I'm not trolling?

Then you just have terrible taste and a warped sense of reality, which is even more sad. :(

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#187 The_Power_of_X
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This guy needs to just shut up. He's one of the most arrogant indie game developers out there. 

Wasdie

Lately I have noticed a trend with certain indie game developers where they become arrogant and act like they're better than big shot developers just because their indie game became a hit. 

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#188 -Patrick_92-
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[QUOTE="Yangire"]

Cool, but it's still getting better games than pretty much anything else right now.

GD1551

Not really, the line up is mostly a bunch of low tier japanese games. It's one of the most overblown and overrated line ups for quite sometime.

I don't agree with the first part of your post, but I'm glad somebody around here said something about the 3DS's library being overrated.

Does the 3DS have a good library? Yes.  Is it an overrated library? Absolutely. 

Now about the OP, I agree with Phil Fish for the most part. I do like having a second screen though, it has benefited almost every DS and 3DS game I've played. The guy did make a lot of good points, but unfortunately it just comes off as an angry rant, and probably could have been written and worded better to reflect his opinions without coming off as an outspoken assh*le.

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#189 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="DropsofJupiter"][QUOTE="GD1551"]

 

Gamespot has a bias? Where did you get that from? So far the 3DS has a bunch of ports, inferior versions of existing franchises, and games like bravely default.. I don't see how you can even say it has the best line up. The xbox has a better lineup this year, not to mention the vita has games like Soul Sacrifice, Gravity Rush and Sound shapes, new awesome unique IPs instead of the same rehashed stuff over and over.

GD1551

So a game like Bravely Default is dismissed, but a game like Soul Sacrifice is held up as some golden standard... why exactly? What inferior versions of any franchise does 3DS have, exactly? It has the best Fire Emblem, the best Mario Kart in a while, the best Resident Evil in a while, the best Kid Icarus in a while, the best Kingdom Hearts since Birth by Sleep, and it has quirky new IPs and games, both retail and digital, like Rhythm Thief and Pushmo, it has games in existing franchises that are great. The problem is you, and some other posters in this thread (but only a very few) are so hell bent on trolling either all things Nintendo or all things not Sony that you will consciously shut your eyes t what is not only indisputably a great lineup catering to all styles of gamers and genres, but a better lineup than the PS Vita's in the current moment in time. Like I said, engaging you in a discussion is pointless, because you, like some other posters in this thread, are determined to troll needlessly even in the face of dissenting facts. This will therefore be my last post to you.

lol I like how you keep saying in "a while". Also it definitely doesn't have the best FE, and soul sacrifice is held up to a golden standard because it is that good, it's a new IP, that has great visuals, gameplay, sound and atmosphere. Bravely default is dismissed because it looks generic and has a very ugly chibi artstyle. Soul Sacrifice on the other hand is what japan should be doing more of and man don't even bring up RE:R that game is just average.

:lol: just like clockwork you just blindly dismiss those game and cling to whatever low score you can to justify your fanboyish hatred torward a company.
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#190 campzor
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i thought we all already knew this.
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#191 GD1551
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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

:lol: keep trollin' and grasping at straws.

Bigboi500

Except I'm not trolling?

Then you just have terrible taste and a warped sense of reality, which is even more sad. :(

Wait how is my taste terrible, further more how is my sense of reality warped?

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#192 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Except I'm not trolling?

GD1551

Then you just have terrible taste and a warped sense of reality, which is even more sad. :(

Wait how is my taste terrible, further more how is my sense of reality warped?

It magically happens when a spark in your brain creates a though and your fingers touch the keyboard to express it.

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#193 locopatho
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3D is horrible and a gimmick. I like the dual screens though, they proved themselves awesome in DS and I assume they still are in 3DS
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#194 GD1551
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It magically happens when a spark in your brain creates a though and your fingers touch the keyboard to express it.

Bigboi500

I never asked you how it happens.

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#195 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

It magically happens when a spark in your brain creates a though and your fingers touch the keyboard to express it.

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I never asked you how it happens.

Ok I'll give you a laymans answer: You knit-pick quaint, or better yet imaginary, faults for good 3DS games, act like the 3DS's raison d'etre are Gamespot scores and act like your strange opinions are factual, or at the very least shared by a majority of gamers when they're not (only blind Sony fanboys).

 

Truth is, both Vita and 3DS have quality games by handheld standards, both have gimmicks and both offer great experiences. Most people who own both and don't talk out of their asses, knows this. Preference is one thing, but the level of hatred and ignorance you show towards Nintendo products is nonsense.

 

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#196 deactivated-57d8401f17c55
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And so was DS.  And I hate how since the DS the handhelds have been sharply square shaped, they feel awful, the gameboy advance was comfortable. 

GBA was the last great handheld and had some really great games.

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#197 YoshiYogurt
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It has great games, and that's all that matters.
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#198 YoshiYogurt
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[QUOTE="DropsofJupiter"]Doesn't change the fact that it has the best games on the market right now.Obviously_Right

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Name one system with new high quality games being released consistently?

 

 

Didn't think so. 3DS is just got ,castlevania, Fire Emblem, Luigi's mansion and a new Pokemon spin off, not to mention animal crossing coming in june, and pokemon x/y in october. The system is a beast.

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#199 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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It's not on Vita because Capcom can link up the Wii U and 3DS version?
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#200 Obviously_Right
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[QUOTE="DropsofJupiter"]Doesn't change the fact that it has the best games on the market right now.YoshiYogurt

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Name one system with new high quality games being released consistently?

 

The PS3