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#201 Johnny-n-Roger
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[QUOTE="shadow8585"]We all speak english /threadShadow2k6

So?

That's why theres subtitles. Dub's are usually bad.

Just look at Cloud in Crisis Core.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPM1XbRBB2o

You wouldn't even know how bad the voice acting is if you can't understand the language now, would you?
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#202 -Traveller-
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[QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

[QUOTE="shadow8585"]We all speak english /threadIronBass

Lol, that might not be everyone's native language though.

I bet neither Japnese :P (especially if we consider the 360 version is not released in Japan, making it irrelevant)

Fairly true, however there are many Japanese people living in NA, and worldwide.

I just had to lol at his complete generalisation with that one.

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#203 Johnny-n-Roger
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[QUOTE="shadow8585"]We all speak english /thread-Traveller-

Lol, that might not be everyone's native language though.

So 360 owners = own3d because a less than 1% minority will be playing a game in a non-native region featuring voice-overs in a non-native language. That's unheard of.
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#204 Vandalvideo
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Fairly true, however there are many Japanese people living in NA, and worldwide.I just had to lol at his complete generalisation with that one.-Traveller-
Even if we don't speak Japanese, Nippon wa oosh kushi (excuse my Romaji). I find that JP VO is far more pleasing to the ears than the coarse dialogue english VOs pump out.
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#205 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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I just had to lol at his complete generalisation with that one.-Traveller-
Fair enough :P Generalisations FTW.
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#206 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"][QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

We all speak english /threadshadow8585

Lol, that might not be everyone's native language though.

So 360 owners = own3d because a less than 1% minority will be playing a game in a non-native region featuring voice-overs in a non-native language. That's unheard of.

He didn't say anything about "ownage".
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#207 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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[QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

[QUOTE="shadow8585"]We all speak english /threadJohnny-n-Roger

Lol, that might not be everyone's native language though.

So 360 owners = own3d because a less than 1% minority will be playing a game in a non-native region featuring voice-overs in a non-native language. That's unheard of.

Reading comprehension FTL.

Who said anything about ownage?

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#208 Johnny-n-Roger
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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"][QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

Lol, that might not be everyone's native language though.

So 360 owners = own3d because a less than 1% minority will be playing a game in a non-native region featuring voice-overs in a non-native language. That's unheard of.

Reading comprehension FTL.

Who said anything about ownage?

The thread asserts that 360 owners are getting shafted.
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#209 -Traveller-
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[QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

[QUOTE="shadow8585"]We all speak english /threadJohnny-n-Roger

Lol, that might not be everyone's native language though.

So 360 owners = own3d because a less than 1% minority will be playing a game in a non-native region featuring voice-overs in a non-native language. That's unheard of.

Erm. What? He generalised, I called him on it. Wow, I can see your point of view, but don't take it to heart.

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#210 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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The thread asserts that 360 owners are getting shafted.Johnny-n-Roger
If you are quoting somebody, make sure you are answering him. If you want to answer "this thread", press the "Reply" button.
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#211 Johnny-n-Roger
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[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"][QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

Lol, that might not be everyone's native language though.

-Traveller-

So 360 owners = own3d because a less than 1% minority will be playing a game in a non-native region featuring voice-overs in a non-native language. That's unheard of.

Erm. What? He generalised, I called him on it. Wow, I can see your point of view, but don't take it to heart.

Take it to heart :lol: I was being sarcastic.

It just seems like grasping for straws for anyone to even try to make an issue of this exclusion, which I was under the impression you were doing in the statement I originally quoted.

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#212 darkmagician06
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even if the non existent english dub was bad i would still prefer it over japanese
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[QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"] So 360 owners = own3d because a less than 1% minority will be playing a game in a non-native region featuring voice-overs in a non-native language. That's unheard of.Johnny-n-Roger

Erm. What? He generalised, I called him on it. Wow, I can see your point of view, but don't take it to heart.

Take it to heart :lol: I was being sarcastic.

It just seems like grasping for straws for anyone to even try to make an issue of this exclusion, which I was under the impression you were doing in the statement I originally quoted.

My bad then, just seemed like you were getting a little up in arms :P

I've said my piece on this. I personally prefer Japanese VO, don't know why, just do. It's a nice added bonus for some people, nothing to others. So it;s not a big deal.

Nah, I was just stating about the generalidation, as not everybody's native language is english.

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[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"][QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

Lol, that might not be everyone's native language though.

Aljosa23

So 360 owners = own3d because a less than 1% minority will be playing a game in a non-native region featuring voice-overs in a non-native language. That's unheard of.

Reading comprehension FTL.

Who said anything about ownage?

Well some people (i.e cows) are blowing this way out of proportion. Sure, no one said "ownage", but it is implied. People are saying the 360 version will suck since you can't play it in Japanese, even though the majority of people in NA speak English and Spanish. So stop acting like this will hurt the 360 version of FFXIII.

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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"] So 360 owners = own3d because a less than 1% minority will be playing a game in a non-native region featuring voice-overs in a non-native language. That's unheard of.Gta3-fan334

Reading comprehension FTL.

Who said anything about ownage?

Well some people (i.e cows) are blowing this way out of proportion. Sure, no one said "ownage", but it is implied. People are saying the 360 version will suck since you can't play it in Japanese, even though the majority of people in NA speak English and Spanish. So stop acting like this will hurt the 360 version of FFXIII.

The only people acting like this is a big deal are fanboys who need something to beef over the other console with.

That much is obvious. Anyone who isn't a fanboy either just prefers Japanese VO in JRPG's (like myself), or just blatently don't care.

Either way, this isn't a win for either console.

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I'm a ps3 owner and seriously who the hell cares, it's not that important, though i'll put the japanese voice oveer, the english one are usually good in final fantasy

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[QUOTE="-Traveller-"]Fairly true, however there are many Japanese people living in NA, and worldwide.I just had to lol at his complete generalisation with that one.Vandalvideo
Even if we don't speak Japanese, Nippon wa oosh kushi (excuse my Romaji). I find that JP VO is far more pleasing to the ears than the coarse dialogue english VOs pump out.

And what makes you think they won't have it in the game for the 360 version? Last time I checked, Lost Odyssey had plenty of different VO. If Mistwalker can do, why can't SE? This whole article reeks of media misinformation. Or taking things out of context like they usually do.
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="-Traveller-"]Fairly true, however there are many Japanese people living in NA, and worldwide.I just had to lol at his complete generalisation with that one.xsubtownerx
Even if we don't speak Japanese, Nippon wa oosh kushi (excuse my Romaji). I find that JP VO is far more pleasing to the ears than the coarse dialogue english VOs pump out.

And what makes you think they won't have it in the game for the 360 version? Last time I checked, Lost Odyssey had plenty of different VO. If Mistwalker can do, why can't SE? This whole article reeks of media misinformation. Or taking things out of context like they usually do.

Korean, English and Japanese were to be found in PAL version. Don't know about the NTSC.
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#219 ceruxx
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[QUOTE="Shadow2k6"]

[QUOTE="shadow8585"]We all speak english /threadJohnny-n-Roger

So?

That's why theres subtitles. Dub's are usually bad.

Just look at Cloud in Crisis Core.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPM1XbRBB2o

You wouldn't even know how bad the voice acting is if you can't understand the language now, would you?

This is actually a good point. While many English dubs ARE terrible, it is unlikely that you'll be able to notice bad Japanese dubs. When looking up games for my Japanese Saturn I happened across absolutely terrible voice acting in a game called Lunar. The comments were all about how Japanese voice acting was so much better, but really it has an equal chance of being bad.

The thing is, with modern games Japanese voice acting is generally top notch and FFXIII's voice work is amazing, from what we've seen so far. Part of the problem with XIII will be lip syncing while keeping the meaning, and sounding natural against quick Japanese in some areas and much longer Japanese sentences in other areas.

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="-Traveller-"]Fairly true, however there are many Japanese people living in NA, and worldwide.I just had to lol at his complete generalisation with that one.xsubtownerx
Even if we don't speak Japanese, Nippon wa oosh kushi (excuse my Romaji). I find that JP VO is far more pleasing to the ears than the coarse dialogue english VOs pump out.

And what makes you think they won't have it in the game for the 360 version? Last time I checked, Lost Odyssey had plenty of different VO. If Mistwalker can do, why can't SE? This whole article reeks of media misinformation. Or taking things out of context like they usually do.

No, it's pretty clear that they think they can't fit it onto the 360 DVD while they will be able to fit it on a bluray disc. XIII is probably a bigger game than LO.

Suggestion: The article suggests that it won't be done. Play off of that.

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="-Traveller-"]Fairly true, however there are many Japanese people living in NA, and worldwide.I just had to lol at his complete generalisation with that one.xsubtownerx
Even if we don't speak Japanese, Nippon wa oosh kushi (excuse my Romaji). I find that JP VO is far more pleasing to the ears than the coarse dialogue english VOs pump out.

And what makes you think they won't have it in the game for the 360 version? Last time I checked, Lost Odyssey had plenty of different VO. If Mistwalker can do, why can't SE? This whole article reeks of media misinformation. Or taking things out of context like they usually do.

It was in the FF XIII Q & A with IGN.

IGN: A number of people have asked whether the original Japanese voice track will be available in the Western release of the game.

Yoshinori Kitase: Regarding Dissidia, because it's a UMD, the voice takes alot of memory - if we wanted to make that choice available, we wouldn't be able to squeeze it onto one disk - so at the moment it's not possible.IGN:

And for Final Fantasy XIII might that be an option?

Yoshinori Kitase: Obviously, when we talk about XIII it's for PS3 and Xbox - with PS3 being on Blu ray there would be enough memory, but on Xbox probably not. At the moment we're thinking of releasing the voice in English only. Are there many people who would like to play with Japanese voices?

Lost Odyssey and FF XIII are entirely different games, using different engines, textures etc, etc. SO they may genuinely not have enough room.

However I think if it was on, however many disks, then they should be able to put the Japanese VA on there also.

Either way, it's not a huge deal.

Or, it could just be one of those things that is lost in translation.

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Yellow Fever

A mental disease that afflicts theWapanese, thefanboys, and theotaku. Symptoms of this condition are;
(a) A sexual obsession towards females ofAsiandescent.
(b) An obsession towards Asian media and entertainment, primarilyanime,hentai,manga, and otherJapanesemedia.
(c) A sudden urge to imitate anything from Asia. For instance, learning Japanese and eating sushi just for the sheer sake of trying to be "Asian".
(d) Thinking that one knows more aboutJapanthan the Japanese themselves, despite never setting foot in that country or at lest reading about it.

An Asian-American girl was harassed by somepsychowho had a bad case of yellow fever. Fortunately, she had a can ofMace(tm) in her purse and did not hesitate to use it on him.

Urban_Dictionary

This thread makes way more sense now.

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#223 -GeordiLaForge-
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Seriously, who in America wants the Japanese voices anyway? 1, maybe 2 people?
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[quote="Urban_Dictionary"]

Yellow Fever

A mental disease that afflicts theWapanese, thefanboys, and theotaku. Symptoms of this condition are;
(a) A sexual obsession towards females ofAsiandescent.
(b) An obsession towards Asian media and entertainment, primarilyanime,hentai,manga, and otherJapanesemedia.
(c) A sudden urge to imitate anything from Asia. For instance, learning Japanese and eating sushi just for the sheer sake of trying to be "Asian".
(d) Thinking that one knows more aboutJapanthan the Japanese themselves, despite never setting foot in that country or at lest reading about it.

An Asian-American girl was harassed by somepsychowho had a bad case of yellow fever. Fortunately, she had a can ofMace(tm) in her purse and did not hesitate to use it on him.

Senor_Kami

This thread makes way more sense now.

That and.

1. Western voices are more often poor.

2. People can't tell as easily when Japanese voices are actually bad.

3. I just want a more accurate script + a superior gameplay ver (USA ver is usually superior in terms of gameplay).

Edit: Oh and a few more things: Sometimes the English ends up being really awkward when it tries to match up to the Japanese. The VA square might pick for Snowe could be really annoying in English.