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#51 Blabadon
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]well there has but at least they try different things with each halo game. odst was a good expansion pack, halo wars was a good console rts, reach was a great prequel and halo anniversary was a great remakekuraimen
Halo 3=2007,yes they have released one every year lately But ther hasn't been a Halo game every year on the 360, besides, at least i know i am getting at the very least One good game a year:)

There's not much merit in releasing rehashes every year. At least PS3 owners get fresh stuff.

HD remasters?
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]well there has but at least they try different things with each halo game. odst was a good expansion pack, halo wars was a good console rts, reach was a great prequel and halo anniversary was a great remakekuraimen
Halo 3=2007,yes they have released one every year lately But ther hasn't been a Halo game every year on the 360, besides, at least i know i am getting at the very least One good game a year:)

There's not much merit in releasing rehashes every year. At least PS3 owners get fresh stuff.

so you agree there's not much merit in releasing remastered Ps2 games collections then,lol
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#53 rilpas
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they already downsized quite a bit in their games department between 2011 and 2012, isn't it enough already?

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#54 ShyGai
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="delta3074"]Halo 3=2007,yes they have released one every year lately But ther hasn't been a Halo game every year on the 360, besides, at least i know i am getting at the very least One good game a year:)Blabadon
There's not much merit in releasing rehashes every year. At least PS3 owners get fresh stuff.

HD remasters?

Yeah, if you ignore the original IP's they introduced this gen...

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#55 rilpas
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[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] There's not much merit in releasing rehashes every year. At least PS3 owners get fresh stuff.ShyGai

HD remasters?

Yeah, if you ignore the original IP's they introduced this gen...

what's that got to do with what was said?

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#56 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="delta3074"]Halo 3=2007,yes they have released one every year lately But ther hasn't been a Halo game every year on the 360, besides, at least i know i am getting at the very least One good game a year:)delta3074
There's not much merit in releasing rehashes every year. At least PS3 owners get fresh stuff.

so you agree there's not much merit in releasing remastered Ps2 games collections then,lol

Well no they are just remasters but Sony hardly only gives you that considering the amount of IPs it releases and supports.
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#57 rilpas
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] There's not much merit in releasing rehashes every year. At least PS3 owners get fresh stuff.kuraimen
so you agree there's not much merit in releasing remastered Ps2 games collections then,lol

Well no they are just remasters but Sony hardly only gives you that considering the amount of IPs it releases and supports.

isn't that actually worse then a rehash? at least with a rehash you get new content

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#58 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="delta3074"]so you agree there's not much merit in releasing remastered Ps2 games collections then,lolrilpas

Well no they are just remasters but Sony hardly only gives you that considering the amount of IPs it releases and supports.

isn't that actually worse then a rehash? at least with a rehash you get new content

But Sony couples those with a healthy dose of new and fresh IPs every year so it's not bad. The problem is when you rely on the same three franchises almost every year.
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#59 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]well there has but at least they try different things with each halo game. odst was a good expansion pack, halo wars was a good console rts, reach was a great prequel and halo anniversary was a great remakekuraimen
Halo 3=2007,yes they have released one every year lately But ther hasn't been a Halo game every year on the 360, besides, at least i know i am getting at the very least One good game a year:)

There's not much merit in releasing rehashes every year. At least PS3 owners get fresh stuff.

explain how its a rehash please. cows continuously call halo a rehash but never provide an argument as to why.
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#60 rilpas
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[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Well no they are just remasters but Sony hardly only gives you that considering the amount of IPs it releases and supports.kuraimen

isn't that actually worse then a rehash? at least with a rehash you get new content

But Sony couples those with a healthy dose of new and fresh IPs every year so it's not bad. The problem is when you rely on the same three franchises almost every year.

wasn't 2012 filled with sony established franchise exclusives? Starhawk (warhawk sequel/spin off), twisted metal, LBP karting

I guess you have journey, but if we're counting downloadable games then the 360 would have Fez

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#61 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Well no they are just remasters but Sony hardly only gives you that considering the amount of IPs it releases and supports.kuraimen

isn't that actually worse then a rehash? at least with a rehash you get new content

But Sony couples those with a healthy dose of new and fresh IPs every year so it's not bad. The problem is when you rely on the same three franchises almost every year.

sony has to rely on many franchises because they dont have anything nearly as big as Halo.
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#62 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="delta3074"]Halo 3=2007,yes they have released one every year lately But ther hasn't been a Halo game every year on the 360, besides, at least i know i am getting at the very least One good game a year:)mems_1224
There's not much merit in releasing rehashes every year. At least PS3 owners get fresh stuff.

explain how its a rehash please. cows continuously call halo a rehash but never provide an argument as to why.

Same game franchise, basically same mechanics. For example COD also releases a game every year with mostly same mechanics and a few changes. That's a rehash. Halo does the same.
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="rilpas"]

isn't that actually worse then a rehash? at least with a rehash you get new content

rilpas

But Sony couples those with a healthy dose of new and fresh IPs every year so it's not bad. The problem is when you rely on the same three franchises almost every year.

wasn't 2012 filled with sony established franchise exclusives? Starhawk (warhawk sequel/spin off), twisted metal, LBP karting

I guess you have journey, but still

Then the 360 has Fez.
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#64 Blabadon
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] There's not much merit in releasing rehashes every year. At least PS3 owners get fresh stuff.

explain how its a rehash please. cows continuously call halo a rehash but never provide an argument as to why.

Same game franchise, basically same mechanics. For example COD also releases a game every year with mostly same mechanics and a few changes. That's a rehash. Halo does the same.

So the difference between Uncharted 2 and Uncharted 3 not being rehashes and Halo 4 being one is that ND took two years to make an inferior game?
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#65 rilpas
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[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] But Sony couples those with a healthy dose of new and fresh IPs every year so it's not bad. The problem is when you rely on the same three franchises almost every year.Blabadon

wasn't 2012 filled with sony established franchise exclusives? Starhawk (warhawk sequel/spin off), twisted metal, LBP karting

I guess you have journey, but still

Then the 360 has Fez.

yep

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#66 rilpas
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] There's not much merit in releasing rehashes every year. At least PS3 owners get fresh stuff.kuraimen
explain how its a rehash please. cows continuously call halo a rehash but never provide an argument as to why.

Same game franchise, basically same mechanics. For example COD also releases a game every year with mostly same mechanics and a few changes. That's a rehash. Halo does the same.

so doesn't that mean Uncharted 2, 3 and golden abyss are rehashes?

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#67 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] There's not much merit in releasing rehashes every year. At least PS3 owners get fresh stuff.

explain how its a rehash please. cows continuously call halo a rehash but never provide an argument as to why.

Same game franchise, basically same mechanics. For example COD also releases a game every year with mostly same mechanics and a few changes. That's a rehash. Halo does the same.

so uncharted 2 and rehashes, lbp 2 is a rehash, gow 2-4353354 are rehashes? glad you agree most sony franchises are also rehashes at this point because halo changes between games more than any of those franchises.
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#68 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] explain how its a rehash please. cows continuously call halo a rehash but never provide an argument as to why.

Same game franchise, basically same mechanics. For example COD also releases a game every year with mostly same mechanics and a few changes. That's a rehash. Halo does the same.

So the difference between Uncharted 2 and Uncharted 3 not being rehashes and Halo 4 being one is that ND took two years to make an inferior game?

i guess its better that cows have to wait longer for the same game? idk.
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#69 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="rilpas"]

isn't that actually worse then a rehash? at least with a rehash you get new content

rilpas

But Sony couples those with a healthy dose of new and fresh IPs every year so it's not bad. The problem is when you rely on the same three franchises almost every year.

wasn't 2012 filled with sony established franchise exclusives? Starhawk (warhawk sequel/spin off), twisted metal, LBP karting

I guess you have journey, but if we're counting downloadable games then the 360 would have Fez

The last Warhawk was released in 2007, the last Twisted Metal in 2001, LBPKarting is a spin off not a rehash and you forgot the Battle Royale game which is a new IP. They hardly milk their IPs every year so they feel fresh.
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#70 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] explain how its a rehash please. cows continuously call halo a rehash but never provide an argument as to why.rilpas

Same game franchise, basically same mechanics. For example COD also releases a game every year with mostly same mechanics and a few changes. That's a rehash. Halo does the same.

so doesn't that mean Uncharted 2, 3 and golden abyss are rehashes?

Yes but Sony gives more time between each release. There's nothing bad about rehashing games if they are good but when you only have three and do it every year then it doesn't seem so good anymore.
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[QUOTE="Frostbite24"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

This should make the xenophobes happy.

CaseyWegner

Lol, i remember I used to getting modded for using that word.

xenophobe? who would do that?

I don't know. I said the Japanese are a xenophobic culture and I was modded. This was after the rule change mind you but a little while ago.
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#72 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Frostbite24"] Lol, i remember I used to getting modded for using that word.Frostbite24

xenophobe? who would do that?

I don't know. I said the Japanese are a xenophobic culture and I was modded. This was after the rule change mind you but a little while ago.

couldn't have been me then. :)

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[QUOTE="DarthClark"][QUOTE="TheEroica"]

sad for those people and families affected... but the gravy train of missmanagment had to end at some point. still its sad.

Vatusus

This^ if anyone should point the finger at someone, point the finger in Sonys direction.

Sony has been in trouble for a long time already and they havent fired as many people as they've been now

I'll point the finger to the economical crisis that has been assolating the world for quite some time now, like every other rational human being would do

You people are just loving to see people losing jobs aslong it is on your "rival" company...

Pathetic really...

What people? I own a ps3... i have a career and work hard everyday... i dont want anyone to lose their job.
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#74 Blabadon
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[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Same game franchise, basically same mechanics. For example COD also releases a game every year with mostly same mechanics and a few changes. That's a rehash. Halo does the same.mems_1224
So the difference between Uncharted 2 and Uncharted 3 not being rehashes and Halo 4 being one is that ND took two years to make an inferior game?

i guess its better that cows have to wait longer for the same game? idk.

>Implying Uncharted 3 is anywhere near the first two

Come on mems!

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#75 rilpas
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The last Warhawk was released in 2007,kuraimen
your defintion of a rehash was and I quote: "Same game franchise, basically same mechanics."

you never mentioned anything about year.

by your own words, warhawk is a rehars

the last Twisted Metal in 2001, kuraimen
again, you never mentioned time

TLBPKarting is a spin off not a rehash and you forgot the Battle Royale game which is a new IP. They hardly milk their IPs every year so they feel fresh.kuraimen

so if LBP kart doesn't count as a rehash because it's a spin off, then neither does Forza Horizon, as it's an arcade spin-off of a console simulator

and Battle Royale isn't an exclusive, I thought we were discussing exclusives, though, even if it was, Battle Royale is a rip-off, which isn't exactly better

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#76 Blabadon
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[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Same game franchise, basically same mechanics. For example COD also releases a game every year with mostly same mechanics and a few changes. That's a rehash. Halo does the same.kuraimen

so doesn't that mean Uncharted 2, 3 and golden abyss are rehashes?

Yes but Sony gives more time between each release. There's nothing bad about rehashing games if they are good but when you only have three and do it every year then it doesn't seem so good anymore.

Heh. Reach was well received for the *changes* it brought to the franchise (even if I don't like its changes that much) and Halo 1 was remade because it was an all time classic. If it doesn't seem so good anymore, why remake it?
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#77 Obviously_Right
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Lemmings actually trying to claim ownage over this.

Sad.

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#78 rilpas
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Yes but Sony gives more time between each release. kuraimen

again, you never mentioned time

There's nothing bad about rehashing games if they are good but when you only have three and do it every year then it doesn't seem so good anymore.kuraimen

the last halo game was in 2010, that's two years, so by your logic: not a rehash

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#79 rilpas
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Lemmings actually trying to claim ownage over this.

Sad.

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no one is claiming ownage :|
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#80 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Yes but Sony gives more time between each release. rilpas

again, you never mentioned time

There's nothing bad about rehashing games if they are good but when you only have three and do it every year then it doesn't seem so good anymore.kuraimen

the last halo game was in 2010, that's two years, so by your logic: not a rehash

Halo Anniversary :| You guys get the same games so much that you forget when they release lol
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#81 CaseyWegner
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Lemmings actually trying to claim ownage over this.

Sad.

Obviously_Right

it would be sad if they did. they didn't.

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#82 rilpas
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Halo Anniversary :| You guys get the same games so much that you forget when they release lolkuraimen

touché

though, again, you never mentioned any timeframes in your description, by your own descriptions, sony's offering for 2012 was a bunch of rehashes and one rip-off

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#83 Obviously_Right
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[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

again, you never mentioned time

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]There's nothing bad about rehashing games if they are good but when you only have three and do it every year then it doesn't seem so good anymore.kuraimen

the last halo game was in 2010, that's two years, so by your logic: not a rehash

Halo Anniversary :| You guys get the same games so much that you forget when they release lol

lol

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#84 Frostbite24
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Leave it to Kuraiman to invade a thread and be as far off topic as is humanly possible. :P

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#85 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Halo Anniversary :| You guys get the same games so much that you forget when they release lolrilpas

touché

though, again, you never mentioned any timeframes in your description, by your own descriptions, sony's offering for 2012 was a bunch of rehashes and one rip-off

Well Sony rehashes but not every year. Seems like Sony has more variety and supports more fresh IPs.
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Another day, another dumb fanboy "Sony is doomed" thread. I find it disgusting how fanboys laugh and use these things as "ownage". These are real people and their lives, you are using them at your expense to justify your purchase. That's just wrong.

Sucks for people that lost their jobs, I will pray for them.

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#87 rilpas
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[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Halo Anniversary :| You guys get the same games so much that you forget when they release lolkuraimen

touché

though, again, you never mentioned any timeframes in your description, by your own descriptions, sony's offering for 2012 was a bunch of rehashes and one rip-off

Well Sony rehashes but not every year. Seems like Sony has more variety and supports more fresh IPs.

right now it does yeah. Which is a shame between 2005-2008 MS developed and/or published tons of new ips

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#88 rilpas
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Another day, another dumb fanboy "Sony is doomed" thread. I find it disgusting how fanboys laugh and use these things as "ownage". These are real people and their lives, you are using them at your expense to justify your purchase. That's just wrong.

Sucks for people that lost their jobs, I will pray for them.

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nobody is claiming ownage :|
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#89 Blabadon
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Another day, another dumb fanboy "Sony is doomed" thread. I find it disgusting how fanboys laugh and use these things as "ownage". These are real people and their lives, you are using them at your expense to justify your purchase. That's just wrong.

Sucks for people that lost their jobs, I will pray for them.

ShadowMoses900

When the f*ck did I say Sony is doomed, justify my purchase, or use these people at my expense? And when did this thread imply fanboyism? Comprehend dude.

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#90 ShadowMoses900
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finally, filtering the crap so now the games will be even more quality will real devs only remainingPinnacleGamingP

You are a dumbass....

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#91 CaseyWegner
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Another day, another dumb fanboy "Sony is doomed" thread. I find it disgusting how fanboys laugh and use these things as "ownage". These are real people and their lives, you are using them at your expense to justify your purchase. That's just wrong.

Sucks for people that lost their jobs, I will pray for them.

ShadowMoses900

did you even read through this thread? people aren't doing what you're describing.

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#93 mariokart64fan
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microsofts not out of the woods just yet they already bit into nintendo's apple , as well theyll get theirs when wii u launches this year they already lost 95 percent profit over year , sony just in the same boat as well , sad lems and cows all they do is worry about movies and internet that --- their games are being out sold by mighty wii software such as wii sports mariokart etc

face the music , when you go into direct competition with nintendo your gonna lose

see the wii nintendo did thier own thing and ms sony tried to follow and got their behind handed to them -and thats exactly whats gonna happen if they come out with something similar to the u ,

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#94 spiderluck
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[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"]finally, filtering the crap so now the games will be even more quality will real devs only remainingRR360DD

Ah, so I guess you're a victim of the first phase then.

Sweet
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#95 CaseyWegner
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microsofts not out of the woods just yet they already bit into nintendo's apple , as well theyll get theirs when wii u launches this year they already lost 95 percent profit over year , mariokart64fan

are you referring to the devices and entertainment division of ms?

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#96 spiderluck
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

This should make the xenophobes happy.

parkurtommo

lemmings? :P

I dont think there are that many Japanese Lemmings :P

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#97 todd2r_Partdeux
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[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"]finally, filtering the crap so now the games will be even more quality will real devs only remainingShadowMoses900

You are a dumbass....

Whoa. C'mon guys. Don't turn on each other. You guys are on the same team.
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#98 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"]finally, filtering the crap so now the games will be even more quality will real devs only remainingtodd2r_Partdeux

You are a dumbass....

Whoa. C'mon guys. Don't turn on each other. You guys are on the same team.

Lol no, not even. I don't have a "team", SW is full of dumbasses, I don't want to be on any team. My team are real gamers that only care about games and not stupid brand loyalty or morons that act like they own stock but don't.

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#99 spiderluck
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]well there has but at least they try different things with each halo game. odst was a good expansion pack, halo wars was a good console rts, reach was a great prequel and halo anniversary was a great remakekuraimen
Halo 3=2007,yes they have released one every year lately But ther hasn't been a Halo game every year on the 360, besides, at least i know i am getting at the very least One good game a year:)

There's not much merit in releasing rehashes every year. At least PS3 owners get fresh stuff.

Inasmuch as you could ever consider sh*t fresh