For 600 dollars, a PS3 and Elite is so much better than a 600 dollar Gaming PC.

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#201 telefanatic
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My PC is God compared to PS3/360/Wii.

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#203 Idream2010
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My PC is God compared to PS3/360/Wii.

telefanatic

yeah and it costs 2 g's. enjoy your galorious RTS's, and AA madness, ill play the best of the best on Ps3/360.

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#204 Idream2010
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[QUOTE="Idream2010"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Buying a PC gives you more exclusives than the PS3 and Xbox 360 combined.CaseyWegner

more exclusives? from what? the 90's? You wanna take the last 3 years and compare my friend, it isnt even close. PS3/360 combo destroys the PC.

is that a guess?

no its the truth, compare the list, the ps3/360 have more AAAA's, AAA's, and AA's. Exclusive, id take the AAAE's of the PS3/360 over the RTS's anyday of the week, and oh yeah, the thing they call sales, well that destroys the PC software as well.

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#205 Idream2010
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Ugh we already went through this earlier in the thread. The 360/PS3 combo has more unique AA+ titles. The PC has more AA+ exclusive titles.

metswonin69

and yes the PS3/360 have more AAAA's and AAA"s. I won this argument, no matter how hard some try! Also SOny and MS execs and all the big devs would agree with me, reality wins every time.

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#206 AnnoyedDragon
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yeah and it costs 2 g's. enjoy your galorious RTS's, and AA madness, ill play the best of the best on Ps3/360.

Idream2010

Why do people take this user seriously? He just called the 'good enough' for mainstream 720p/low quality filter games on consoles "the best of the best".

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#207 Eggimannd
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[QUOTE="telefanatic"]

My PC is God compared to PS3/360/Wii.

Idream2010

yeah and it costs 2 g's. enjoy your galorious RTS's, and AA madness, ill play the best of the best on Ps3/360.

Are we talking American dollars? Because I can build you a computer for 600 US that would massacre consoles. And that is EVERYTHING included.

And why do you try and make it seem like PC only has RTS when it has a lot more diversity than anything consoles can offer?

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#208 xsubtownerx
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[QUOTE="Idream2010"]

[QUOTE="telefanatic"]

My PC is God compared to PS3/360/Wii.

Eggimannd

yeah and it costs 2 g's. enjoy your galorious RTS's, and AA madness, ill play the best of the best on Ps3/360.

Are we talking American dollars? Because I can build you a computer for 600 US that would massacre consoles. And that is EVERYTHING included.

And why do you try and make it seem like PC only has RTS and it has a lot more diversity than anything consoles can offer?

Wow. Both of you are so full of fail and lies. :lol: I think this will go down as one of my favorite threads ever!
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#209 yoshi_64
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Except you can't media stream, can't access the internet, can't play the many awesome exclusive PC games, can't do important tasks from office work to normal day tasks, can't even use some of the features on 360/PS3 without a PC. Heck, you wouldn' t be making this right now would you...?
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#210 urdead18
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Except you can't media stream, can't access the internet, can't play the many awesome exclusive PC games, can't do important tasks from office work to normal day tasks, can't even use some of the features on 360/PS3 without a PC. Heck, you wouldn' t be making this right now would you...? yoshi_64
This is a GAMING forum, isn't it?
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#211 Arach666
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[QUOTE="Idream2010"]

yeah and it costs 2 g's. enjoy your galorious RTS's, and AA madness, ill play the best of the best on Ps3/360.

AnnoyedDragon

Why do people take this user seriously? He just called the 'good enough' for mainstream 720p/low quality filter games on consoles "the best of the best".

The guy was already owned a number of times but keeps coming back. I guess some people don´t know when to quit.

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#212 Skittles_McGee
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Having two platforms is better than having just one? Thats just downright impossible I say! :|
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#213 Idream2010
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[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

[QUOTE="Idream2010"]

yeah and it costs 2 g's. enjoy your galorious RTS's, and AA madness, ill play the best of the best on Ps3/360.

Arach666

Why do people take this user seriously? He just called the 'good enough' for mainstream 720p/low quality filter games on consoles "the best of the best".

The guy was already owned a number of times but keeps coming back. I guess some people don´t know when to quit.

looks at your sig and laughs, ok PC gaming is doing great and is # 1. I rest my case!!

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#214 telefanatic
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[QUOTE="telefanatic"]

My PC is God compared to PS3/360/Wii.

Idream2010

yeah and it costs 2 g's. enjoy your galorious RTS's, and AA madness, ill play the best of the best on Ps3/360.

Im rich +++++!!! Play your cheap consoles while i game on super hardware!!! Ye Ye YE!!! Supa Hardware!! YE!!!

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#215 Idream2010
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[QUOTE="Idream2010"]

[QUOTE="telefanatic"]

My PC is God compared to PS3/360/Wii.

telefanatic

yeah and it costs 2 g's. enjoy your galorious RTS's, and AA madness, ill play the best of the best on Ps3/360.

Im rich +++++!!! Play your cheap consoles while i game on super hardware!!! Ye Ye YE!!! Supa Hardware!! YE!!!

haha while you play AAE expansion madness RTS's, and yeah did you really put your car in your sig? :lol:

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#216 AnnoyedDragon
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[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

Why do people take this user seriously? He just called the 'good enough' for mainstream 720p/low quality filter games on consoles "the best of the best".

Arach666

The guy was already owned a number of times but keeps coming back. I guess some people don´t know when to quit.

He's also outright lieing, making claims anyone with eyes can see are wrong just to rile them up and make them defensive.

Honestly this is a clear example of what is wrong with our moderator system, this flame baiter is running wild and the moderators aren't doing anything about it. But if I were to say I _ the user for behaving this way; I'd get a point loss and possibly a suspension in a matter of hours, they of course would go untouched.

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#217 metswonin69
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[QUOTE="metswonin69"][QUOTE="ChiChiMonKilla"]

I have no idea what you mean by unique if you mean indie games pc's got you covered there also. I don't know where all this misinformation is coming from ??

Eggimannd

Its coming from the spreadsheet. Read my other posts in this thread, its really quite a simple concept actually.

I'm also quite not sure what you mean by "unique". Do you mean they can't be played on the PC and only on PS3/360/Wii?

When I say unique I am referring to different games. For example, if you added all of the 360 and PS3 AAA titles you would have quite a few repeats. Unique is them added together without the repeats.
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#218 telefanatic
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

Why do people take this user seriously? He just called the 'good enough' for mainstream 720p/low quality filter games on consoles "the best of the best".

Idream2010

The guy was already owned a number of times but keeps coming back. I guess some people don´t know when to quit.

looks at your sig and laughs, ok PC gaming is doing great and is # 1. I rest my case!!

Look here mortal kombat!!! Like i said my pc is god and you should bow down to it !!! Im generation 6 and your xbox 2 is generation 2 !!! Ye Ye

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#220 telefanatic
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[QUOTE="telefanatic"]

[QUOTE="Idream2010"]

yeah and it costs 2 g's. enjoy your galorious RTS's, and AA madness, ill play the best of the best on Ps3/360.

Idream2010

Im rich +++++!!! Play your cheap consoles while i game on super hardware!!! Ye Ye YE!!! Supa Hardware!! YE!!!

haha while you play AAE expansion madness RTS's, and yeah did you really put your car in your sig? :lol:

Yes its a Cadillac CTS what u got ? a dodge neon ? wanna start talking about cars ? which is more economically better ? since mine cost $$$ and urs $ ?

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#221 Skittles_McGee
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[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"] The guy was already owned a number of times but keeps coming back. I guess some people don´t know when to quit.

Idream2010

He's also outright lieing, making claims anyone with eyes can see are wrong just to rile them up and make them defensive.

Honestly this is a clear example of what is wrong with our moderator system, this flame baiter is running wild and the moderators aren't doing anything about it. But if I were to say I _ the user for behaving this way; I'd get a point loss and possibly a suspension in a matter of hours, they of course would go untouched.

explain how I am outright lying? I think you are trolling now!

Actually, you just did. Its technically against the Terms of Service to call someone a troll or to say they are trolling.
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#222 Idream2010
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[QUOTE="Idream2010"]

[QUOTE="telefanatic"]

Im rich +++++!!! Play your cheap consoles while i game on super hardware!!! Ye Ye YE!!! Supa Hardware!! YE!!!

telefanatic

haha while you play AAE expansion madness RTS's, and yeah did you really put your car in your sig? :lol:

Yes its a Cadillac CTS what u got ? a dodge neon ? wanna start talking about cars ? which is more economically better ? since mine cost $$$ and urs $ ?

hey I would bring up my car is better than yours too if I completely lost an argument! :lol: Mature!

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#224 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="telefanatic"]

[QUOTE="Idream2010"]

yeah and it costs 2 g's. enjoy your galorious RTS's, and AA madness, ill play the best of the best on Ps3/360.

Idream2010

Im rich +++++!!! Play your cheap consoles while i game on super hardware!!! Ye Ye YE!!! Supa Hardware!! YE!!!

haha while you play AAE expansion madness RTS's, and yeah did you really put your car in your sig? :lol:

while you play only shooters with crappy controllers roflcopter
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#225 Idream2010
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[QUOTE="Idream2010"]

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

He's also outright lieing, making claims anyone with eyes can see are wrong just to rile them up and make them defensive.

Honestly this is a clear example of what is wrong with our moderator system, this flame baiter is running wild and the moderators aren't doing anything about it. But if I were to say I _ the user for behaving this way; I'd get a point loss and possibly a suspension in a matter of hours, they of course would go untouched.

Skittles_McGee

explain how I am outright lying? I think you are trolling now!

Actually, you just did. Its technically against the Terms of Service to call someone a troll or to say they are trolling.

oh rly, well Id still like to see this guy explain to me how I am lying, maybe its called slander?

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#226 Skittles_McGee
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="Idream2010"]

explain how I am outright lying? I think you are trolling now!

Idream2010

Actually, you just did. Its technically against the Terms of Service to call someone a troll or to say they are trolling.

oh rly, well Id still like to see this guy explain to me how I am lying, maybe its called slander?

Slander is baseless defamation of character. From what I've read, he has basis for the claim. Calling you a liar, backed up with a logical basis, is not slander. He's done nothing wrong
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#227 Idream2010
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[QUOTE="Idream2010"]

[QUOTE="telefanatic"]

Im rich +++++!!! Play your cheap consoles while i game on super hardware!!! Ye Ye YE!!! Supa Hardware!! YE!!!

MonsieurX

haha while you play AAE expansion madness RTS's, and yeah did you really put your car in your sig? :lol:

while you play only shooters with crappy controllers roflcopter

yeah and Alan Wake gets cut, and the list grows and grows, boycott MW2 as well! I love the responses, keep em coming, I know I am make a good argument when you have nothing to combat me and you are roflcoptering!

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#228 telefanatic
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[QUOTE="telefanatic"]

[QUOTE="Idream2010"]

haha while you play AAE expansion madness RTS's, and yeah did you really put your car in your sig? :lol:

Idream2010

Yes its a Cadillac CTS what u got ? a dodge neon ? wanna start talking about cars ? which is more economically better ? since mine cost $$$ and urs $ ?

hey I would bring up my car is better than yours too if I completely lost an argument! :lol: Mature!

Ha !!! did you read any previous posts before posting anything new ? raichy even agrees with me that you have lost your base!! and it completely belongs to us. Ye YE

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#230 Idream2010
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[QUOTE="Idream2010"]

[QUOTE="telefanatic"]

Yes its a Cadillac CTS what u got ? a dodge neon ? wanna start talking about cars ? which is more economically better ? since mine cost $$$ and urs $ ?

telefanatic

hey I would bring up my car is better than yours too if I completely lost an argument! :lol: Mature!

Ha mortal vombat !!! did you read any previous posts before posting anything new ? raichy even agrees with me that you have lost your base!! and it completely belongs to us. Ye YE

I stopped reading when you brought up your car and how rich you are and how you think that makes you better than I :lol:

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#231 Idream2010
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haha while you play AAE expansion madness RTS's, and yeah did you really put your car in your sig? :lol:

ChiChiMonKilla

I lost track of how many times you have been proved wrong now your just a troll. I know system wars does not promote rational thought but your thought process has lost track with reality entirely.

oh according to my friend that is a term of service, please provide proof before you start calling people names. I know we can pretend that PC gaming is doing better than console gaming, and yet reality dictates the complete opposite.

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#232 Skittles_McGee
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="Idream2010"]

oh rly, well Id still like to see this guy explain to me how I am lying, maybe its called slander?

Idream2010

Slander is baseless defamation of character. From what I've read, he has basis for the claim. Calling you a liar, backed up with a logical basis, is not slander. He's done nothing wrong

I guess you are a PC gamer and dont like the fact that I completely spoke the truth and this thread is a hit. Also I would call what you are doing slanderous as well as you have no evidence.

I'm an everything gamer. Of course, if you're going to be throwing about the word slander, it would be wise to know its definition. I spoke nothing of your character, merely explaining that he did not commit slander. By claiming I have done defamation of character against you when I have not, you have actually done slander yourself. That all being said, I know where this thread is going and I'm not going to be any part of it. I've seen the exchange and he's in the right, that's that.
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#233 Eggimannd
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[QUOTE="Eggimannd"]

[QUOTE="Idream2010"]

yeah and it costs 2 g's. enjoy your galorious RTS's, and AA madness, ill play the best of the best on Ps3/360.

xsubtownerx

Are we talking American dollars? Because I can build you a computer for 600 US that would massacre consoles. And that is EVERYTHING included.

And why do you try and make it seem like PC only has RTS and it has a lot more diversity than anything consoles can offer?

Wow. Both of you are so full of fail and lies. :lol: I think this will go down as one of my favorite threads ever!

How exactly am I full of lies? =/

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#234 telefanatic
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[QUOTE="telefanatic"]

[QUOTE="Idream2010"]

hey I would bring up my car is better than yours too if I completely lost an argument! :lol: Mature!

Idream2010

Ha mortal vombat !!! did you read any previous posts before posting anything new ? raichy even agrees with me that you have lost your base!! and it completely belongs to us. Ye YE

I stopped reading when you brought up your car and how rich you are and how you think that makes you better than I :lol:

You are so good at gaming #1 the best!!! People let him leave the comments, his base belongs to us.

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#235 AnnoyedDragon
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explain how I am outright lying? I think you are trolling now!

Idream2010

no its the truth, compare the list, the ps3/360 have more AAAA's, AAA's, and AA's.

Idream2010

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360

AAA 8

AA 13

PS3

AAA 6

AA 9

PC

AAA 11

AA 74

Undoubtedly he has seen this list as he is referring to it, however he lied, even though anyone looking at the list can see PC has more AAA/AA than consoles. If you combined the entire AAA/AA/A console line-up, they still wouldn't have more of these game scores than PC, even if you limited PC to just its AA list.

Now he will be fully aware of this, which means he wants me to make defensive response to prolong this argument. An argument that cares more about personal bias than factual information, so I have little incentive to take long term part in.

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#236 telefanatic
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Theres a new game coming out called I AM BETTER THEN U!!! And IM RICH SINCE I madea MORTAL KOMBAT MOVIE!! VAN DAM RULES,.

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#237 Idream2010
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[QUOTE="Idream2010"]

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"] Slander is baseless defamation of character. From what I've read, he has basis for the claim. Calling you a liar, backed up with a logical basis, is not slander. He's done nothing wrongSkittles_McGee

I guess you are a PC gamer and dont like the fact that I completely spoke the truth and this thread is a hit. Also I would call what you are doing slanderous as well as you have no evidence.

I'm an everything gamer. Of course, if you're going to be throwing about the word slander, it would be wise to know its definition. I spoke nothing of your character, merely explaining that he did not commit slander. By claiming I have done defamation of character against you when I have not, you have actually done slander yourself. That all being said, I know where this thread is going and I'm not going to be any part of it. I've seen the exchange and he's in the right, that's that.

calling someone a Liar when they havent lie is slander, and again you cant provide any kind of evidence, so please move on, as you are looking to be upset at me proving that a 600 dollar combo of the PS3/360 completely destroys PC gaming. Also I think you are pretty bad at pretending to be a lawyer.

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#238 TheDogout
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pc is better in every way . a 300$ pc would have better graphics then both put together .

dontshackzmii
This is so much fail on every single level. First of all your gonna need to spend atleast 500$ to get graphics better than 1 console And your gonna need 5 grand to get graphics better than both combined
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#239 Eggimannd
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[QUOTE="ChiChiMonKilla"]

[QUOTE="Idream2010"]

haha while you play AAE expansion madness RTS's, and yeah did you really put your car in your sig? :lol:

Idream2010

I lost track of how many times you have been proved wrong now your just a troll. I know system wars does not promote rational thought but your thought process has lost track with reality entirely.

oh according to my friend that is a term of service, please provide proof before you start calling people names. I know we can pretend that PC gaming is doing better than console gaming, and yet reality dictates the complete opposite.

Reality also dictates that a computer lets you do a lot more than play video games.

There's also the fact that you're comparing TWO systems to ONE to try and prove your point.

I'm sorry but you've failed miserably in this thread.

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#240 04dcarraher
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One way to end this debate on "the power" behind the console gpu's, transistor counts tell the performance differences. the more the merrier. The 360 Xenos has around 236 million and the PS3 has around the same all being under 250 million.

Nvidia 7800GTX 300 million - .25 x more = 50% faster

ATI 3870 over 660 milliom - 1.8 x = 400% faster (4x)

Nvidia 8800GT 754 million 2.2 x more = 500% faster (5x)

ATI 4870 950 million - 3.1 x more = 700% faster (7x)

ATI 5870 over 2 billion - 7.6 x more = 1700% faster(15x)

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#241 Idream2010
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[QUOTE="Idream2010"]

explain how I am outright lying? I think you are trolling now!

AnnoyedDragon

no its the truth, compare the list, the ps3/360 have more AAAA's, AAA's, and AA's.

Idream2010

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360

AAA 8

AA 13

PS3

AAA 6

AA 9

PC

AAA 11

AA 74

Undoubtedly he has seen this list as he is referring to it, however he lied, even though anyone looking at the list can see PC has more AAA/AA than consoles. If you combined the entire AAA/AA/A console line-up, they still wouldn't have more of these game scores than PC, even if you limited PC to just its AA list.

Now he will be fully aware of this, which means he wants me to make defensive response to prolong this argument. An argument that cares more about personal bias than factual information, so I have little incentive to take long term part in.

ok thanks for posting that, now combine the PS3/360 exclusives and compare them both to the PC, oh no now it doesnt look so good for the PC. Thanks for making my point, next time be fully aware of what my point is before you prove it for me!

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#242 789shadow
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[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

pc is better in every way . a 300$ pc would have better graphics then both put together .

TheDogout

This is so much fail on every single level. First of all your gonna need to spend atleast 500$ to get graphics better than 1 console And your gonna need 5 grand to get graphics better than both combined

You both fail massively.:| You will not need to spend at least $500 to get better graphics than a console, and no PC has better graphics than both consoles put together.

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#243 Idream2010
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thanks for the spreadsheet, now everyone who is disputing me, time to eat some crow. Add up the PS3/360 aaaa's, aaaae's, aaa's, aaae's, aa's, aae's and compare that to the PC's. OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH this is classic.. PS3/360 destroys the PC just like I have been saying!

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#244 adv_tr00per
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Thank you TC, for creating something I can laugh at

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#245 Eggimannd
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[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

pc is better in every way . a 300$ pc would have better graphics then both put together .

TheDogout

This is so much fail on every single level. First of all your gonna need to spend atleast 500$ to get graphics better than 1 console And your gonna need 5 grand to get graphics better than both combined

I hope this is just a joke post or sarcasm.

If not http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150351&Tpk=XFX%20HD-485X-ZDFC

How wrong you are.

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#247 GiveMeSomething
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[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

[QUOTE="Idream2010"]

[QUOTE="Idream2010"]

no its the truth, compare the list, the ps3/360 have more AAAA's, AAA's, and AA's.

Idream2010

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360

AAA 8

AA 13

PS3

AAA 6

AA 9

PC

AAA 11

AA 74

Undoubtedly he has seen this list as he is referring to it, however he lied, even though anyone looking at the list can see PC has more AAA/AA than consoles. If you combined the entire AAA/AA/A console line-up, they still wouldn't have more of these game scores than PC, even if you limited PC to just its AA list.

Now he will be fully aware of this, which means he wants me to make defensive response to prolong this argument. An argument that cares more about personal bias than factual information, so I have little incentive to take long term part in.

ok thanks for posting that, now combine the PS3/360 exclusives and compare them both to the PC, oh no now it doesnt look so good for the PC. Thanks for making my point, next time be fully aware of what my point is before you prove it for me!

Owned.

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#248 MonsieurX
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Why would you take 2 systems against 1 anyway? AAA 11(PC) vs 14(PS360) AA 74(PC) vs 22(PS360) Completly destroyed! They have 3 more AAA's for more than 3 times less the AA
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#249 telefanatic
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This garus cant count!!! people quick get out !!!

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#250 Idream2010
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[QUOTE="Idream2010"]

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

Link

360

AAA 8

AA 13

PS3

AAA 6

AA 9

PC

AAA 11

AA 74

Undoubtedly he has seen this list as he is referring to it, however he lied, even though anyone looking at the list can see PC has more AAA/AA than consoles. If you combined the entire AAA/AA/A console line-up, they still wouldn't have more of these game scores than PC, even if you limited PC to just its AA list.

Now he will be fully aware of this, which means he wants me to make defensive response to prolong this argument. An argument that cares more about personal bias than factual information, so I have little incentive to take long term part in.

GiveMeSomething

ok thanks for posting that, now combine the PS3/360 exclusives and compare them both to the PC, oh no now it doesnt look so good for the PC. Thanks for making my point, next time be fully aware of what my point is before you prove it for me!

Owned.

yep pretty much the whole thread, obviously for 600 you should get a PS3/360 than a low grade gaming pc for 600. lol this is awesome