Forbes: PS4 Is Truly Next-Gen And Your PC Isn't

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="nextgenjoke"]

a pc with 16gb ddr3 will have less bandwidth to the cpu but it doesnt make a **** lol its got 8 more gbs of ram.

 

plus the gpu might eat up most of the memory bandwidth on ps4.

aroxx_ab

I got 1,5Gb GDDR5 on my PC GPU, how will Ps4 GPU eat up like 6Gb vram (or whatever is left after OS/background stuff)  at low resulotion of 1080p?:shock:

Its hilarious how hermits are melting down in this thread. :lol:

BlbecekBobecek

The fact that the gddr5 heavy titan is getting stomped doesn't mean a whole lot. Next gen games will be developed for ps3 and all the ddr5, that could hurt the pc ports.

The fact that the gddr5 heavy titan is getting stomped doesn't mean a whole lot. Next gen games will be developed for ps3 and all the ddr5, that could hurt the pc ports.

angelsrul_basic

[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"] And that is the reason why PS4 will fail to play games at 60FPS.faizan_faizan

I got 1,5Gb GDDR5 on my PC GPU, how will Ps4 GPU eat up like 6Gb vram (or whatever is left after OS/background stuff)  at low resulotion of 1080p?:shock:

Titan is still the fastest single-gpu card, gtx690 is two gpu's (2x gtx680?) smacked at one card, only reason Titan got owned. Titan is still a pretty impressive card and even better if you ask me, no microstuttering ;)

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

I got 1,5Gb GDDR5 on my PC GPU, how will Ps4 GPU eat up like 6Gb vram (or whatever is left after OS/background stuff)  at low resulotion of 1080p?:shock:

aroxx_ab

Titan is still the fastest single-gpu card, gtx690 is two gpu's (2x gtx680?) smacked at one card, only reason Titan got owned. Titan is still a pretty impressive card and even better if you ask me, no microstuttering ;)

[QUOTE="angelsrul_basic"]

The fact that the gddr5 heavy titan is getting stomped doesn't mean a whole lot. Next gen games will be developed for ps3 and all the ddr5, that could hurt the pc ports.

faizan_faizan

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="angelsrul_basic"]

The fact that the gddr5 heavy titan is getting stomped doesn't mean a whole lot. Next gen games will be developed for ps3 and all the ddr5, that could hurt the pc ports.

angelsrul_basic

[QUOTE="angelsrul_basic"][QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="angelsrul_basic"]

The fact that the gddr5 heavy titan is getting stomped doesn't mean a whole lot. Next gen games will be developed for ps3 and all the ddr5, that could hurt the pc ports.

faizan_faizan

What is new ?

That is why consoles can last 7+ years with 300$ hardware and a 2000$ PC is obsolete after a few months usually

loosingENDS

Few months? Those pc virgins' machines last a matter of days before they end up paperweight 

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

What is new ?

That is why consoles can last 7+ years with 300$ hardware and a 2000$ PC is obsolete after a few months usually

jimmyrussle117

Few months? Those pc virgins' machines last a matter of days before they end up paperweight 

lol 128 bit gddr5 not 256 bit or 384 bit 

You do realize that GDDR5 is based on DDR3 but specifically designed for GPU workloads. If GDDR5 was amazing for CPUs we would have been using it a long time ago.

You do realize that GDDR5 is based on DDR3 but specifically designed for GPU workloads. If GDDR5 was amazing for CPUs we would have been using it a long time ago.

way2funny

I know I will get some flame for this, but I haven't seen anything on PC look as good as Killzone ShadowFall. That was on a whole other level and it WAS ALL GAMEPLAY (I saw a live demo on Jimmy Falon), yes I dare say it looks even better than Crysis (come at me bro!).

I don't know what all those specs mean, I doubt anyone here really does either. But simply by looking at the meat and potatoes of the game's themselves, the PS4 is going to be a beast. Even more impressive is they listened to devs and made it more friendly, which is nice because some devs had problems early on with the PS3.

I know I will get some flame for this, but I haven't seen anything on PC look as good as Killzone ShadowFall. That was on a whole other level and it WAS ALL GAMEPLAY (I saw a live demo on Jimmy Falon), yes I dare say it looks even better than Crysis (come at me bro!).

I don't know what all those specs mean, I doubt anyone here really does either. But simply by looking at the meat and potatoes of the game's themselves, the PS4 is going to be a beast. Even more impressive is they listened to devs and made it more friendly, which is nice because some devs had problems early on with the PS3.

ShadowMoses900

apparently you havent seen crysis 3

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I know I will get some flame for this, but I haven't seen anything on PC look as good as Killzone ShadowFall. That was on a whole other level and it WAS ALL GAMEPLAY (I saw a live demo on Jimmy Falon), yes I dare say it looks even better than Crysis (come at me bro!).

I don't know what all those specs mean, I doubt anyone here really does either. But simply by looking at the meat and potatoes of the game's themselves, the PS4 is going to be a beast. Even more impressive is they listened to devs and made it more friendly, which is nice because some devs had problems early on with the PS3.

lostrib

apparently you havent seen crysis 3

I have. But it's pointless to argue this with you because you'll refuse to believe me and just say something like "lol yotube".

I played the Crysis 3 beta. You can take it or leave it at that.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I know I will get some flame for this, but I haven't seen anything on PC look as good as Killzone ShadowFall. That was on a whole other level and it WAS ALL GAMEPLAY (I saw a live demo on Jimmy Falon), yes I dare say it looks even better than Crysis (come at me bro!).

I don't know what all those specs mean, I doubt anyone here really does either. But simply by looking at the meat and potatoes of the game's themselves, the PS4 is going to be a beast. Even more impressive is they listened to devs and made it more friendly, which is nice because some devs had problems early on with the PS3.

ShadowMoses900

apparently you havent seen crysis 3

I have. But it's pointless to argue this with you because you'll refuse to believe me and just say something like "lol yotube".

I played the Crysis 3 beta. You can take it or leave it at that.

The MP beta?

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

apparently you havent seen crysis 3

lostrib

I have. But it's pointless to argue this with you because you'll refuse to believe me and just say something like "lol yotube".

I played the Crysis 3 beta. You can take it or leave it at that.

The MP beta?

Yes.

PS4 will create a monopoly. Nobody will want to game anywhere else.Under_Armour

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I have. But it's pointless to argue this with you because you'll refuse to believe me and just say something like "lol yotube".

I played the Crysis 3 beta. You can take it or leave it at that.

ShadowMoses900

The MP beta?

Yes.

I know I will get some flame for this, but I haven't seen anything on PC look as good as Killzone ShadowFall. That was on a whole other level and it WAS ALL GAMEPLAY (I saw a live demo on Jimmy Falon), yes I dare say it looks even better than Crysis (come at me bro!).

I don't know what all those specs mean, I doubt anyone here really does either. But simply by looking at the meat and potatoes of the game's themselves, the PS4 is going to be a beast. Even more impressive is they listened to devs and made it more friendly, which is nice because some devs had problems early on with the PS3.

ShadowMoses900

LIVE gameplay just like Killzone 2 footage before it release.. Or the other PS3 games tauted before the console at it's release.. That was FOUND to all be pre-rendered.. And not actual gameplay footage like they claimed.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

The MP beta?

delta3074

Yes.

I played it on PS3.

Yes I know "lol consoles" or "lol PS3 multipalts" but it's not really that different and you guys you know it.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

apparently you havent seen crysis 3

I have. But it's pointless to argue this with you because you'll refuse to believe me and just say something like "lol yotube".

I played the Crysis 3 beta. You can take it or leave it at that.

The MP beta?

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I have. But it's pointless to argue this with you because you'll refuse to believe me and just say something like "lol yotube".

I played the Crysis 3 beta. You can take it or leave it at that.

ShadowMoses900

The MP beta?

Yes.

So you havent played the full game? Let alone the single player, which has better graphics

I played it on PS3.

Yes I know "lol consoles" or "lol PS3 multipalts" but it's not really that different and you guys you know it.

ShadowMoses900

Coming from the same person that brought us this, I'm not surprised.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

There is little difference, see for yourself. One image is from the 360 version and the other is from the PC version. I removed the system logos from both.

Can you tell which version is which? Didn't think so.

the_bi99man

AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You are so fvcking busted. Look at the URLs for these images. They are literally the same image, you lying sack of crap.

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Yes.

ShadowMoses900

I played it on PS3.

Yes I know "lol consoles" or "lol PS3 multipalts" but it's not really that different and you guys you know it.

Yeah, it is quite different. You have no idea what you're talking about

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Yes.

ShadowMoses900

I played it on PS3.

Yes I know "lol consoles" or "lol PS3 multipalts" but it's not really that different and you guys you know it.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I know I will get some flame for this, but I haven't seen anything on PC look as good as Killzone ShadowFall. That was on a whole other level and it WAS ALL GAMEPLAY (I saw a live demo on Jimmy Falon), yes I dare say it looks even better than Crysis (come at me bro!).

I don't know what all those specs mean, I doubt anyone here really does either. But simply by looking at the meat and potatoes of the game's themselves, the PS4 is going to be a beast. Even more impressive is they listened to devs and made it more friendly, which is nice because some devs had problems early on with the PS3.

sSubZerOo

LIVE gameplay just like Killzone 2 footage before it release.. Or the other PS3 games tauted before the console at it's release.. That was FOUND to all be pre-rendered.. And not actual gameplay footage like they claimed.

PlayStation 4 Demo of Killzone: Shadow Fall - YouTube

All live gameplay my friend. All live. And I don't know if the Killzone 2 demo was prerendered or not and I don't care, the game looks great and pretty damn close to it.

Killzone 2 Trailer - YouTube

KILLZONE 2 (HD) GAMEPLAY - YouTube

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

The MP beta?

lostrib

Yes.

So you havent played the full game? Let alone the single player, which has better graphics

No I have not played the full game or the single player. But based off what I did play and what I did see (inb4 "lol youtube videos") I can come the conclusion that Killzone ShadowFall looks better.

It's ok if you think otherwise.

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Yes.

ShadowMoses900

I played it on PS3.

Yes I know "lol consoles" or "lol PS3 multipalts" but it's not really that different and you guys you know it.

a. claim you haven't seen anything on pc near killzone

b. say you have played crysis 3

c. when asked if you played it on max setting answer i played it on ps3 

d. make people wonder why you made the first statement in the first place if you haven't played it on pc and probably any good looking game either on pc.

e. prove once again how dumb console fanboys are "it's not really that different" yeah keep telling yourself that so you can sleep at night apparently

f. /facepalm

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Yes.

ShadowMoses900

So you havent played the full game? Let alone the single player, which has better graphics

No I have not played the full game or the single player. But based off what I did play and what I did see (inb4 "lol youtube videos") I can come the conclusion that Killzone ShadowFall looks better.

It's ok if you think otherwise.

It's a faulty conclusion.  You're basing it off a beta, and off of multiplayer.  Crysis looks better in single player.

PC gamers switching to PS4 confirmeddrakekratos

for an inferior experience? no thanks

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Yes.

ShadowMoses900

I played it on PS3.

Yes I know "lol consoles" or "lol PS3 multipalts" but it's not really that different and you guys you know it.

[QUOTE="drakekratos"]PC gamers switching to PS4 confirmedlostrib

for an inferior experience? no thanks

For dat simple facebook integration.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

So you havent played the full game? Let alone the single player, which has better graphics

lostrib

No I have not played the full game or the single player. But based off what I did play and what I did see (inb4 "lol youtube videos") I can come the conclusion that Killzone ShadowFall looks better.

It's ok if you think otherwise.

It's a faulty conclusion.  You're basing it off a beta, and off of multiplayer.  Crysis looks better in single player.

Maybe, maybe not. But I didn't see any difference in the single player graphics from the multiplayer one (again inb4 "lol youtube vids").

CRYSIS 3 BETA 19 kills Online Multiplayer 1080p HD

Crysis 3 'Single Player Demo Gameplay' [1080p] TRUE-HD QUALITY

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Yes.

ShadowMoses900

I played it on PS3.

Yes I know "lol consoles" or "lol PS3 multipalts" but it's not really that different and you guys you know it.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]Max settings?delta3074

I played it on PS3.

Yes I know "lol consoles" or "lol PS3 multipalts" but it's not really that different and you guys you know it.

He's trolling.

Quit replying to him.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

No I have not played the full game or the single player. But based off what I did play and what I did see (inb4 "lol youtube videos") I can come the conclusion that Killzone ShadowFall looks better.

It's ok if you think otherwise.

ShadowMoses900

It's a faulty conclusion.  You're basing it off a beta, and off of multiplayer.  Crysis looks better in single player.

Maybe, maybe not. But I didn't see any difference in the single player graphics from the multiplayer one (again inb4 "lol youtube vids").

CRYSIS 3 BETA 19 kills Online Multiplayer 1080p HD

Crysis 3 'Single Player Demo Gameplay' [1080p] TRUE-HD QUALITY

You really shouldn't use youtube to compare. And I don't see where it says what settings they used.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]Max settings?delta3074

I played it on PS3.

Yes I know "lol consoles" or "lol PS3 multipalts" but it's not really that different and you guys you know it.

No I am serious. Sorry you can't accept other people's opinions on things. Thought you were a more open minded person.

The PS4 sounds like it's using some crazy tech, something that very few PC's use (at least according to the article). But this combined with the superior optimization that console's have over PC seriously could make this a fact.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

No I have not played the full game or the single player. But based off what I did play and what I did see (inb4 "lol youtube videos") I can come the conclusion that Killzone ShadowFall looks better.

It's ok if you think otherwise.

ShadowMoses900

It's a faulty conclusion.  You're basing it off a beta, and off of multiplayer.  Crysis looks better in single player.

Maybe, maybe not. But I didn't see any difference in the single player graphics from the multiplayer one (again inb4 "lol youtube vids").

CRYSIS 3 BETA 19 kills Online Multiplayer 1080p HD

Crysis 3 'Single Player Demo Gameplay' [1080p] TRUE-HD QUALITY

[QUOTE="way2funny"]

You do realize that GDDR5 is based on DDR3 but specifically designed for GPU workloads. If GDDR5 was amazing for CPUs we would have been using it a long time ago.

faizan_faizan

Here are couple of clarifications.

1. Unified is good, thats the thing that gimped the ps3.
2. 8gb of ram is good, the reason hermits say that more ram doesnt matter, is, because ram is only as useful as much as you use it. If you need more and dont have more, that will gimp preformance. Its a one direction street. More ram than you will use will not increase preformance. Less ram than you need will gimp preformance.
3. The choice to go for GDDR5 for everything is probably good. It may gimp the CPU preformance, but as we know the GPU is generally the bottleneck, and GDDR5 will help the GPU calculations. We dont know how much it will gimp the CPU, but probably not really that much. People are just overthinking it.
4. The ps4 is not better than a mid-high end PC. These specs are Directly comparable to a PC. Difference is devs can write software that interacts with the metal, so there is less overhead. But in terms of RAW preformance, ps4 cannot compare. Doesnt mean it wont be able to produce good visuals. Its honestly the modest yet respectful upgrade consolites need. But no, the ps4 is not better in terms of power in terms of power.

I stick with a PC, I acknowledge the ps4 isn't nearly as powerful, but however theres no denying that sony made some smart hardware choices for the ps4.

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I played it on PS3.

Yes I know "lol consoles" or "lol PS3 multipalts" but it's not really that different and you guys you know it.

ShadowMoses900

No I am serious. Sorry you can't accept other people's opinions on things. Thought you were a more open minded person.

The PS4 sounds like it's using some crazy tech, something that very few PC's use (at least according to the article). But this combined with the superior optimization that console's have over PC seriously could make this a fact.

no you can't be serious, is not possible for someone to be this incredibly stupid, oh wait it is.

They are giving you the benefit of doubt by calling you troll, but i'm calling it, genuine stupidity

how is it that a 'next gen' game doesn't even come close to crysis 3? :(

PS4 is powerful but I still wanna see what 720 brings to the table as far as power goes.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

It's a faulty conclusion.  You're basing it off a beta, and off of multiplayer.  Crysis looks better in single player.

faizan_faizan

Maybe, maybe not. But I didn't see any difference in the single player graphics from the multiplayer one (again inb4 "lol youtube vids").

CRYSIS 3 BETA 19 kills Online Multiplayer 1080p HD

Crysis 3 'Single Player Demo Gameplay' [1080p] TRUE-HD QUALITY

Yes with mods it does clearly look better than the console version. However how many PC's can actually run these mods? Do you know how expensive it is and how hard to have get these to optimize correctly in order to run the game? Even at max settings it's an expensive process.

This is why the console versions are superior, and as far as vanilla goes I didn't see much of a difference. But PC elitists must try to justify their purchase so let the comments that are simply filled with insults and no merit commence.