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#1 navyguy21
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Well this just gets better and better :D

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#2 mD-
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it's only a racing game, makes sense.

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#3 BoloTheGreat
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Sounds like a Sony promise :?
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#4 nmaharg
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No wonder you see so little jaggies. GT5 better come hard.

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#6 SpruceCaboose
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Since I don't care about 1080p, not that big a deal to me. 60 FPS is much more important than the resolution.
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Looks pretty...but I hate driving simulators.
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@KNOIWSNDISN@@J)I@, just got real.

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#9 EmperorSupreme
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Yeah just like Halo. You never know with MS they advertise a vast majority of their games as 1080, when they are not.
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It is a racing game, i do not doubt they could make it 75fps if they wanted too...

:|

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#11 finesse-gamer
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nice. you can't ask for more from a game that looks so good.

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#12 nmaharg
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Side note, that means they have alot of room to makr forza 4 look even better.

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#13 finesse-gamer
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It is a racing game, i do not doubt they could make it 75fps if they wanted too...

:|

samuraiguns

why do people act like they know everything about the inner workings of a game? just stop.

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#14 W1NGMAN-
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I don't own a TV capable of 1080p :(

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#15 navyguy21
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Since I don't care about 1080p, not that big a deal to me. 60 FPS is much more important than the resolution.SpruceCaboose
same here
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Its not like making a racing game look good is really hard....

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#17 Camer999
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Yeah just like Halo. You never know with MS they advertise a vast majority of their games as 1080, when they are not.EmperorSupreme

GT5,MGS4 :lol: (MGS4 was prob supposed to be 720p while it is acually 576p)

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They say this a lot, about a lot of games, and not one has acheived it. GT5P wasnt 1080, I dont think this will be either.

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#19 finesse-gamer
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Sounds like a Sony promise :?BoloTheGreat

yeah, but cut in half.

and only in 3-d. :P

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#20 Nedemis
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it's only a racing game, makes sense.

mD-

It is a racing game, i do not doubt they could make it 75fps if they wanted too...

:|

samuraiguns
do either of you even know just how impressive this truly is? There's far more going on with this game in one single race that's tasking on any system (no matter how powerful it may be) compared to what most other games do in several levels. The physics engine combined with the visuals is more then enough to warrant a max 720p at 60fps. Getting this game to run at 1080p AND 60fps is an incredible feat.
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[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]Yeah just like Halo. You never know with MS they advertise a vast majority of their games as 1080, when they are not.Camer999

GT5,MGS4 :lol: (MGS4 was prob supposed to be 720p while it is acually 576p)

what's even funnier is that the ps3 have more 1080p native games than m$ does
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#22 samuraiguns
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[QUOTE="samuraiguns"]

It is a racing game, i do not doubt they could make it 75fps if they wanted too...

:|

finesse-gamer

why do people act like they know everything about the inner workings of a game? just stop.

ok but who are you to refute my claim?
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They say this a lot, about a lot of games, and not one has acheived it. GT5P wasnt 1080, I dont think this will be either.

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Um...there are 1080p games native.
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Belisimo.......probably misspelled :P
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what's even funnier is that the ps3 have more 1080p native games than m$ doesermacness
They should. They were the company that called their box a 120 FPS 1080p supercomputer.
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[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]Yeah just like Halo. You never know with MS they advertise a vast majority of their games as 1080, when they are not.Camer999

GT5,MGS4 :lol: (MGS4 was prob supposed to be 720p while it is acually 576p)

Pretty sure MGS4 was higher than that. Anyways, I doubt it'll be native 1080p, but if it is I'll be pleasantly surprised. But I doubt it.

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#27 samuraiguns
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[QUOTE="mD-"]

it's only a racing game, makes sense.

Nedemis

It is a racing game, i do not doubt they could make it 75fps if they wanted too...

:|

samuraiguns
do either of you even know just how impressive this truly is? There's far more going on with this game in one single race that's tasking on any system (no matter how powerful it may be) compared to what most other games do in several levels. The physics engine combined with the visuals is more then enough to warrant a max 720p at 60fps. Getting this game to run at 1080p AND 60fps is an incredible feat.

The auto dynamic physics engine? I jumped the gun by saying 75fps, but when people say it like it seemed impossible, If you look at what is going on doesn't really seem too unrealistic.
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[QUOTE="ermacness"]what's even funnier is that the ps3 have more 1080p native games than m$ doesSpruceCaboose
They should. They were the company that called their box a 120 FPS 1080p supercomputer.

Ha, yep.

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[QUOTE="Camer999"]

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]Yeah just like Halo. You never know with MS they advertise a vast majority of their games as 1080, when they are not.ermacness

GT5,MGS4 :lol: (MGS4 was prob supposed to be 720p while it is acually 576p)

what's even funnier is that the ps3 have more 1080p native games than m$ does

PSN games?? :lol:

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#30 Kahuna_1
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They say this a lot, about a lot of games, and not one has acheived it. GT5P wasnt 1080, I dont think this will be either.

SpruceCaboose

Um...there are 1080p games native.

Do you know any? Every time I hear it, that one site shoots it down by saying its upscaled. Only one I know of is NBA 08 or 09...but that game looks and plays like garbage.

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[QUOTE="ermacness"]what's even funnier is that the ps3 have more 1080p native games than m$ doesSpruceCaboose
They should. They were the company that called their box a 120 FPS 1080p supercomputer.

THANK GOD that idiot got the boot. The ps3 was WAY overhyped. It's a great console, but even i would agree that it didn't live up to it's OUTRAGEOUS promises

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[QUOTE="mD-"]

it's only a racing game, makes sense.

Nedemis

It is a racing game, i do not doubt they could make it 75fps if they wanted too...

:|

samuraiguns

do either of you even know just how impressive this truly is? There's far more going on with this game in one single race that's tasking on any system (no matter how powerful it may be) compared to what most other games do in several levels. The physics engine combined with the visuals is more then enough to warrant a max 720p at 60fps. Getting this game to run at 1080p AND 60fps is an incredible feat.

Let me ask you something. Other than the other race cars and collisions with objects, how much do you see really see going on in the background? (particle effects, environment, any movement you notice)

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[QUOTE="finesse-gamer"]

[QUOTE="samuraiguns"]

It is a racing game, i do not doubt they could make it 75fps if they wanted too...

:|

samuraiguns

why do people act like they know everything about the inner workings of a game? just stop.

ok but who are you to refute my claim?

well, i highly doubt you actually know what you are talking about. in fact, I know you don't.

how does a game that happens to be a racer automatically mean it's less demanding?

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#34 Nedemis
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[QUOTE="samuraiguns"][QUOTE="Nedemis"][QUOTE="mD-"]

It is a racing game, i do not doubt they could make it 75fps if they wanted too...

:|

samuraiguns
do either of you even know just how impressive this truly is? There's far more going on with this game in one single race that's tasking on any system (no matter how powerful it may be) compared to what most other games do in several levels. The physics engine combined with the visuals is more then enough to warrant a max 720p at 60fps. Getting this game to run at 1080p AND 60fps is an incredible feat.

The auto dynamic physics engine? I jumped the gun by saying 75fps, but when people say it like it seemed impossible, If you look at what is going on doesn't really seem too unrealistic.

you obviously don't even know how deep just the tire physics are in the Forza series. They were praised in Forza2 as being on a level that no other sim racer has ever come close too and with all that number crunching just for that, it's putting quite a load on the system.....This is far more impressive then most would think and I'm absolutely astonished that they were able to pull it off with the 360. I guess it just goes to show you that the system hasn't been maxed out yet. :)
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]

They say this a lot, about a lot of games, and not one has acheived it. GT5P wasnt 1080, I dont think this will be either.

Kahuna_1

Um...there are 1080p games native.

Do you know any? Every time I hear it, that one site shoots it down by saying its upscaled. Only one I know of is NBA 08 or 09...but that game looks and plays like garbage.

MLB the show 09 and Virtual tennis are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head.
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surround sound is more important than HD video. it adds a whole new perspective to almost any game. you can hear if a car is coming up from behind you on your left/right/behind without taking your eyes off the road. All HD graphics do is make it look sharper. 480 is just a visible, IMO.
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If it runs smoothly, then who cares.
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]

They say this a lot, about a lot of games, and not one has acheived it. GT5P wasnt 1080, I dont think this will be either.

Kahuna_1

Um...there are 1080p games native.

Do you know any? Every time I hear it, that one site shoots it down by saying its upscaled. Only one I know of is NBA 08 or 09...but that game looks and plays like garbage.

Sure do. Navyguy linked you to Beyond3D (that one site you are talking about). Hit Ctrl + F and type into the search bar 1920x1080.
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[QUOTE="Nedemis"][QUOTE="mD-"] [QUOTE="samuraiguns"]

It is a racing game, i do not doubt they could make it 75fps if they wanted too...

:|

mD-

do either of you even know just how impressive this truly is? There's far more going on with this game in one single race that's tasking on any system (no matter how powerful it may be) compared to what most other games do in several levels. The physics engine combined with the visuals is more then enough to warrant a max 720p at 60fps. Getting this game to run at 1080p AND 60fps is an incredible feat.

Let me ask you something. Other than the other race cars and collisions with objects, how much do you see really see going on in the background? (particle effects, environment, any movement you notice)

im pretty sure there was a waterfall, detailed effects on the water. probably crowds of people too im guessing. also the raod has normal mapping making it less pixely.

also, the physics of the car and damage modeling takes a toll on the CPU.

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looks pretty freakin awesome! :)

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[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="Camer999"]

GT5,MGS4 :lol: (MGS4 was prob supposed to be 720p while it is acually 576p)

navyguy21

what's even funnier is that the ps3 have more 1080p native games than m$ does

PSN games?? :lol:

LINKY

i didn't know that NBA 08 , NBA09, FA2, and RR7 was PSN games:lol:

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[QUOTE="Nedemis"][QUOTE="samuraiguns"][QUOTE="Nedemis"] do either of you even know just how impressive this truly is? There's far more going on with this game in one single race that's tasking on any system (no matter how powerful it may be) compared to what most other games do in several levels. The physics engine combined with the visuals is more then enough to warrant a max 720p at 60fps. Getting this game to run at 1080p AND 60fps is an incredible feat.

The auto dynamic physics engine? I jumped the gun by saying 75fps, but when people say it like it seemed impossible, If you look at what is going on doesn't really seem too unrealistic.

you obviously don't even know how deep just the tire physics are in the Forza series. They were praised in Forza2 as being on a level that no other sim racer has ever come close too and with all that number crunching just for that, it's putting quite a load on the system.....This is far more impressive then most would think and I'm absolutely astonished that they were able to pull it off with the 360. I guess it just goes to show you that the system hasn't been maxed out yet. :)

I am a Playstation Guy, but I am interested in in Forza because it looks amazing, please enlighten me on the "Tire Physics", please? :)
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[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] Um...there are 1080p games native. SpruceCaboose

Do you know any? Every time I hear it, that one site shoots it down by saying its upscaled. Only one I know of is NBA 08 or 09...but that game looks and plays like garbage.

Sure do. Navyguy linked you to Beyond3D (that one site you are talking about). Hit Ctrl + F and type into the search bar 1920x1080.

Ah, so they do exist.

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[QUOTE="Nedemis"][QUOTE="mD-"] [QUOTE="samuraiguns"]

It is a racing game, i do not doubt they could make it 75fps if they wanted too...

:|

mD-

do either of you even know just how impressive this truly is? There's far more going on with this game in one single race that's tasking on any system (no matter how powerful it may be) compared to what most other games do in several levels. The physics engine combined with the visuals is more then enough to warrant a max 720p at 60fps. Getting this game to run at 1080p AND 60fps is an incredible feat.

Let me ask you something. Other than the other race cars and collisions with objects, how much do you see really see going on in the background? (particle effects, environment, any movement you notice)

Once you've played Forza2 even once then come back to this thread. The telemetry viewer alone puts most other sim racers to shame. When a game is taking into consideration; tire pressure, tire heat, the heat of the road, road condition (based upon most traveled and least traveled lines), that alone cries out just how taxing the physics engine can be. I'm more impressed with games such as Forza3 running at those specs then I am with games like Killzone2 or Gears of War2 doing the same. There's no scripted events and the opponent A.I. in the Forza series in beyond incredible.
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#45 samuraiguns
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[QUOTE="samuraiguns"][QUOTE="finesse-gamer"]

why do people act like they know everything about the inner workings of a game? just stop.

finesse-gamer

ok but who are you to refute my claim?

well, i highly doubt you actually know what you are talking about. in fact, I know you don't.

how does a game that happens to be a racer automatically mean it's less demanding?

How do you know I don't? This is quite amusing, you do not even know me, but yet you are making bold statements as of my mindset. This is why I come in System Wars sparingly... But in fact I do not know what I am talking about (sort-of), I made a general claim, and it was to my mistake and I will say I would like to retract my statement.
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[QUOTE="navyguy21"]

[QUOTE="ermacness"]what's even funnier is that the ps3 have more 1080p native games than m$ doesermacness

PSN games?? :lol:

LINKY

i didn't know that NBA 08 , NBA09, FA2, and RR7 was PSN games:lol:

come on dude, you cant be that slow!! :P you said PS3 had MORE games, i never said that they didnt exist either did i?? how about you count the number of 1080p games that BOTH CONSOLES have, then get back to me ok??

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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]

Do you know any? Every time I hear it, that one site shoots it down by saying its upscaled. Only one I know of is NBA 08 or 09...but that game looks and plays like garbage.

Kahuna_1

Sure do. Navyguy linked you to Beyond3D (that one site you are talking about). Hit Ctrl + F and type into the search bar 1920x1080.

Ah, so they do exist.

I just so had a flashback to that M&M/Santa commercial. Yeah, they do exist, but 720p seems more like the sweet spot with the current power of both HD consoles.
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[QUOTE="mD-"]

[QUOTE="Nedemis"] do either of you even know just how impressive this truly is? There's far more going on with this game in one single race that's tasking on any system (no matter how powerful it may be) compared to what most other games do in several levels. The physics engine combined with the visuals is more then enough to warrant a max 720p at 60fps. Getting this game to run at 1080p AND 60fps is an incredible feat. Nedemis

Let me ask you something. Other than the other race cars and collisions with objects, how much do you see really see going on in the background? (particle effects, environment, any movement you notice)

Once you've played Forza2 even once then come back to this thread. The telemetry viewer alone puts most other sim racers to shame. When a game is taking into consideration; tire pressure, tire heat, the heat of the road, road condition (based upon most traveled and least traveled lines), that alone cries out just how taxing the physics engine can be. I'm more impressed with games such as Forza3 running at those specs then I am with games like Killzone2 or Gears of War2 doing the same. There's no scripted events and the opponent A.I. in the Forza series in beyond incredible.

Hmmm...makes more sense because the engine has to prepare itself for the next onslaught of data calculations it has to make to prepare the car after it makes its next move...Heat of the road calculations? amazing...
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#49 Nedemis
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I am a Playstation Guy, but I am interested in in Forza because it looks amazing, please enlighten me on the "Tire Physics", please? :)samuraiguns

This article is almost 3 years old and it still shows just how insane the detail put into Forza's physics engine really is.

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#50 stiltzsy
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Wow forza has really upped the ante on GT5....I wonder if this means GT5 will need to be delayed so they can catch up? Doesn't make sense making people wait 4 years for a game that isn't as good as one that is already out.