Forza 3 to be on 2 discs....

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#51 BreakingPoint8
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[QUOTE="Fignewton50"]

Thats painfully obvious.

Spybot_9

And it's also painfully obvious that you are just a 360 fanboy as there is no way anybody will defend this as not being something bad.

What is your problem exactly? Are you trying to get a suspension or do you just assume everyone on this board is a fake like well, you.
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#52 BioShockOwnz
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It appeared you were still talking to him because it was the same paragraph. If you didn't want to imply that, separate it...

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I seperated it with the words "some people", which should be quite obvious. If I am talking directly at you, I'm not calling you "some people". Common sense.

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#53 Lebron181
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[QUOTE="Lebron181"]

[QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="GaMeR_Willz"]Lol yeah. That's why the 360 is a failure :lol:BreakingPoint8

Is it really that hard for you to get off the sofa and walk around 5 steps to a console?

I don't know about you, but I do not feel like changing disk for tracks that suppose to be in one disk. There is no track that is worth pausing the game and swiping the disk. That takes the whole atmosphere and ruins the momentum.

Thanks for ignoring all the other posts and submitting that ludicrous assumption.

What, read the article before reading other posts.

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#54 marklarmer
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[QUOTE="Fignewton50"]

Thats painfully obvious.

Spybot_9

And it's also painfully obvious that you are just a 360 fanboy as there is no way anybody will defend this as not being something bad.

so you'd rather have a game with less tracks and cars?

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#55 Eltroz
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[QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="GaMeR_Willz"]Lol yeah. That's why the 360 is a failure :lol:Lebron181

Is it really that hard for you to get off the sofa and walk around 5 steps to a console?

I don't know about you, but I do not feel like changing disk for tracks that suppose to be in one disk. There is no track that is worth pausing the game and swiping the disk. That takes the whole atmosphere and ruins the momentum.

You do not even know what is going to be on each disc.They are not going to have 1/2 a race on one disc and another 1/2 on the other.I mean really you can not think that right? The people on SW amaze me somethimes
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#56 X_CAPCOM_X
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[QUOTE="Spybot_9"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

It's been brought up many times. I'm still amazed that some people can't change a disc. It was alright before, but now it's a hassle. How lazy have some become that they can't get off the couch for a second and switch out a disc? The damage control is through the roof on this one.

BreakingPoint8

What the hell are you talking about?

This is NOT your usual disc change.This is much more annoying.Imagine I wanna play a track and find out it's on the other disc,you are telling me it's not annoying?Then I change the disc and then want to ride a car and found out that it's on the other disc?LOL pathetic.

And no all cars and tracks wont be on one disc otherwise the game may as well be on one disc.

You didn't play Grand Turismo 2 did you, one disk for simulation the other for arcade/multiplayer. Stop this instigating, it's really tiring.

I did, and I never put the second disc in. So will Forza 3 be this way?

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#57 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="X_CAPCOM_X"]Are people going to be changing discs to play online? I don't get it. How can there be a multi-disc racing game?BioShockOwnz

It's not that hard to understand. Half the content on one disc and the other half on the other disc. I'm amazed some fanboys are actually so delusional to think or say that they'll have to switch discs in the middle of a race. It's truly gotten to pathetic times on the damage control front.

Good job at making that all up. I'm curious too has how a racing game will be 2 discs.

Good job on missing out on those posts. It's been said, fact. I have enough weight here and enough people know I don't make up BS, so yes, it's been said.

Onto the 2 disc part. It was already said by the PGR team that they had issues with PGR4. Welcome to the world of HD, which fills a lot more disc space.

http://www.gamegrep.com/news/4101-dvd9_limiting_pgr4_should_microsoft_have_used_bluray/

This is the first thread I've seen on the subject, so I don't know what you're talking about. But no one that I saw mentioned what you said here so I didn't see the need to jump the gun. Whatever though.

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#58 Fignewton50
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[QUOTE="Fignewton50"]

Thats painfully obvious.

Spybot_9

And it's also painfully obvious that you are just a 360 fanboy as there is no way anybody will defend this as not being something bad.

Nice try, Sony did it too and I loved GT2. It doesn't take anything away from the game. It's obvious you are taking something rumored completely out of context and defying reason and logic by blowing it out of proportion.

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#59 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]It appeared you were still talking to him because it was the same paragraph. If you didn't want to imply that, separate it...

BioShockOwnz

I seperated it with the words "some people", which should be quite obvious. If I am talking directly at you, I'm not calling you "some people". Common sense.

No, common sense tells people that one paragraph is for the same thought. If you have another thought, new paragraph.

I'm not trying to be too critical here lol, but I thought you were talking to him too.

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#60 Spybot_9
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[QUOTE="Spybot_9"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

It's been brought up many times. I'm still amazed that some people can't change a disc. It was alright before, but now it's a hassle. How lazy have some become that they can't get off the couch for a second and switch out a disc? The damage control is through the roof on this one.

Fignewton50

What the hell are you talking about?

This is NOT your usual disc change.This is much more annoying.Imagine I wanna play a track and find out it's on the other disc,you are telling me it's not annoying?Then I change the disc and then want to ride a car and found out that it's on the other disc?LOL pathetic.

And no all cars and tracks wont be on one disc otherwise the game may as well be on one disc.

You have no idea how the data is going to be split up between the discs. There is NO way they are going to make you switch discs back and forth while playing they game. Like EVERY game before, they would find some break that would separate the data, like the second half of career mode, or a different mode all together.

And all of that, is a HUGE "IF" the game is even going to be on 2 discs, which is completely speculation at this point.

Hmm the career mode may be split in half but what if I want to play any tracks in arcade mode?

Forza isnt that much of a complicated game now dont kid yourself.No. of tracks and cars take most of the space and audio obviously has to be in full on both disks.There is no story mode in forza so it's not hard to assume all this.

And ya they may drop the idea altogether but then there is failure both ways as no 100 tracks and no 400 cars then.

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#61 0rin
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Odd for a current-gen racing game... but as long as all the tracks are on one disk (so if you want to play against someone, you won't have to swap disks) then its no big deal.

I dunno. It really isn't a big deal. and even still, it's just a rumor. I don't really get the whole multiple discs/install argument. Both have their advantages, and disadvantages. it boils down to personal preference. I personally prefer the one time installs (or in the case of MGS4, one time, per act, per difficulty.. kinda silly, but the game more than makes up for it). but I can see why people make fun of disc swapping. It's simply because it's been 3 gen's since the PS1 (or two, depending on how you look at it I guess), and consoles are STILL requiring multiple disks? hell, even installs? I sure hope next gen we can manage to have standard HDD's and minimal-no installs. just put entire games on a disc, and have fast enough drives to run it. but oh well. ROLL WITH THEM THAR PUNCHES! :P
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#62 ThugKing6669
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Why does everyone honestly think that multiple discs means that halfway through a track, your going to have to change a disc? I understand fanboyism, but do people honestly think that the devs behind forza motorsports 3 are going to do something that ridiculous? Lets look back at some multidisc games. Final Fantasy VII. This JRPG had three discs. About a third of the way through the game, you switch to disc 2, two-thirds of the way, you switch to disc 3, no more switching discs after that. Gran Turismo 2, had two discs. One with the Career mode and another with the arcade mode (if I remember correctly). I'm just so tired of hearing this whole "ZOMG FORZA IS TEH SUCK CUZ IT HAS MULTIPLE DISKZZZZZZZZ!!!11!!!"
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#63 Lebron181
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[QUOTE="Lebron181"]

[QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="GaMeR_Willz"]Lol yeah. That's why the 360 is a failure :lol:Eltroz

Is it really that hard for you to get off the sofa and walk around 5 steps to a console?

I don't know about you, but I do not feel like changing disk for tracks that suppose to be in one disk. There is no track that is worth pausing the game and swiping the disk. That takes the whole atmosphere and ruins the momentum.

You do not even know what is going to be on each disc.They are not going to have 1/2 a race on one disc and another 1/2 on the other.I mean really you can not think that right? The people on SW amaze me somethimes

Don't type like your the developer. You don't know how the disk data is going to be seprerated so stop asuming Mr. Know-it-all.

Jrpg where the only gender that were okay for Disk Swapping.

Grand Turismo did a great job on seperating the content. Psone games had many disk swapping. Now its 2008.

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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]It appeared you were still talking to him because it was the same paragraph. If you didn't want to imply that, separate it...

Chutebox

I seperated it with the words "some people", which should be quite obvious. If I am talking directly at you, I'm not calling you "some people". Common sense.

No, common sense tells people that one paragraph is for the same thought. If you have another thought, new paragraph.

I'm not trying to be too critical here lol, but I thought you were talking to him too.

When you're talking directly to someone, you don't say "some people". You address that individual with their name or "you". The whole paragragh is one thought. My thought on the fanboy attempts to play this game down to the ground, based on rumors of multiple discs. It's all one thought, but addressing 2 sides of the thought. "Some people" =/= 1 person. Common sense.

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#66 Slyprince
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It seems like the ones who have a problem with this were never going to buy it in the first place.

Also, developers are not idots, espicially the ones who make forza (I mean it is an AAA franchise, the only one)

Im sure they will figure out a reasonable way to split it.

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#67 mo0ksi
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So what if Forza 3 will have 2 discs? There will be tons of content and that's what matters. I'm pretty sure no one here is physically incapable of changing discs. I'm also pretty sure that the devs won't be making people change discs between races.
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#68 X_CAPCOM_X
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Why does everyone honestly think that multiple discs means that halfway through a track, your going to have to change a disc? I understand fanboyism, but do people honestly think that the devs behind forza motorsports 3 are going to do something that ridiculous? Lets look back at some multidisc games. Final Fantasy VII. This JRPG had three discs. About a third of the way through the game, you switch to disc 2, two-thirds of the way, you switch to disc 3, no more switching discs after that. Gran Turismo 2, had two discs. One with the Career mode and another with the arcade mode (if I remember correctly). I'm just so tired of hearing this whole "ZOMG FORZA IS TEH SUCK CUZ IT HAS MULTIPLE DISKZZZZZZZZ!!!11!!!" ThugKing6669

I don't understand this. I haven't seen anybody saying this.

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#69 Spybot_9
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WTF are people bringing in this changing disks between a race BS and calling it complete fanboyisim when nobody except one guy said that.:|

Keep to the topic and dont damage control.Nobody is saying that you will have to change a disc in between a race.

And you think the devs are genoius that will devise a way to make a racing game feel good with multiple disks?Hmm if there was a way then PGR4 would have it.

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#70 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]It appeared you were still talking to him because it was the same paragraph. If you didn't want to imply that, separate it...

BioShockOwnz

I seperated it with the words "some people", which should be quite obvious. If I am talking directly at you, I'm not calling you "some people". Common sense.

No, common sense tells people that one paragraph is for the same thought. If you have another thought, new paragraph.

I'm not trying to be too critical here lol, but I thought you were talking to him too.

When you're talking directly to someone, you don't say "some people". You address that individual with their name or "you". The whole paragragh is one thought. My thought on the fanboy attempts to play this game down to the ground, based on rumors of multiple discs. It's all one thought, but addressing 2 sides of the thought. "Some people" =/= 1 person. Common sense.

God, move on bud. It's not one thought. If it was there would be no confusion.

One thought was about fanboys, the other was about explaining how it would work. Two thoughts!

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#71 BreakingPoint8
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Arcade/multiplayer on one disk, simulation on the other. Actually no, that's too logical. I'm sure they'll make you switch disks to play certain tracks, for online multiplayer too! Now let's brainstorm what else we can come with so we can continue to blow this out of proportion.

What the hell is wrong with you guys, what is so damn hard to understand? If it's on two disks that means they're putting a lot more content and detail into the game to make it better, so kindly stop crying about a game you'll likely never play anyway.

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#72 clone01
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so umm yeah whats wrong with 2 Discs?mingo123

absolutely nothing.

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#73 crunchUK
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It seems like the ones who have a problem with this were never going to buy it in the first place.

Also, developers are not idots, espicially the ones who make forza (I mean it is an AAA franchise, the only one)

Im sure they will figure out a reasonable way to split it.

Slyprince

win.

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#74 planbfreak4eva
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this is the most epic phail for 360..it will start with forza 3 and continue to other games being written on 2 disks...its only a matter of time until 360 is dead..and whats up wid only 400 cars on 2 disks....gt5 got over 1000 cars and its only on one disk
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#75 Lebron181
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Arcade/multiplayer on one disk, simulation on the other. Actually no, that's too logical. I'm sure they'll make you switch disks to play certain tracks, for online multiplayer too! Now let's brainstorm what else we can come with so we can continue to blow this out of proportion.

What the hell is wrong with you guys, what is so damn hard to understand? If it's on two disks that means they're putting a lot more content and detail into the game to make it better, so kindly stop crying about a game you'll likely never play anyway.

BreakingPoint8

This would have never happen if MS didnt make the arcade unit without HDD. Blame MS for their money greed.

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#76 marklarmer
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WTF are people bringing in this changing disks between a race BS and calling it complete fanboyisim when nobody except one guy said that.:|

Keep to the topic and dont damage control.Nobody is saying that you will have to change a disc in between a race.

And you think the devs are genoius that will devise a way to make a racing game feel good with multiple disks?Hmm if there was a way then PGR4 would have it.

Spybot_9

its what happens when you re-post old news. I wish people would stop insulting devs with pointless assumptions.

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#77 Spybot_9
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[QUOTE="BreakingPoint8"]

Arcade/multiplayer on one disk, simulation on the other. Actually no, that's too logical. I'm sure they'll make you switch disks to play certain tracks, for online multiplayer too! Now let's brainstorm what else we can come with so we can continue to blow this out of proportion.

What the hell is wrong with you guys, what is so damn hard to understand? If it's on two disks that means they're putting a lot more content and detail into the game to make it better, so kindly stop crying about a game you'll likely never play anyway.

Lebron181

This would have never happen if MS didnt make the arcade unit without HDD. Blame MS for their money greed.

Blame console gaming for being casual.MS DID made a fully featured machine in the original xbox but didnt pay off.
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#78 Fignewton50
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Arcade/multiplayer on one disk, simulation on the other. Actually no, that's too logical. I'm sure they'll make you switch disks to play certain tracks, for online multiplayer too! Now let's brainstorm what else we can come with so we can continue to blow this out of proportion.

What the hell is wrong with you guys, what is so damn hard to understand? If it's on two disks that means they're putting a lot more content and detail into the game to make it better, so kindly stop crying about a game you'll likely never play anyway.

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#80 st1ka
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this is the most epic phail for 360..it will start with forza 3 and continue to other games being written on 2 disks...its only a matter of time until 360 is dead..and whats up wid only 400 cars on 2 disks....gt5 got over 1000 cars and its only on one diskplanbfreak4eva

i love it how the only people who have problem with changing discs are the same people who say they will never buy a 360 (im also lookingat you spybot)

so yeah...

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#81 marklarmer
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Just pathetic that lemmings are actually defending this.:lol::lol:Spybot_9

so you would prefer a game with less content?

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#82 st1ka
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Just pathetic that lemmings are actually defending this.:lol::lol:Spybot_9

i find it even more pathetic that someone who claims that doesnt like console games, that they are so inferior to the PC and that will never own a 360 goes out of his way to create a thread about something that really doesnt bother anyone besides those who already stated that dont have and are not interested in a 360, its almost as if you feel threatned by the 360... or jealous that you dont own one, to me this thread is nothing more then some really poor damage controll but hey whatever floats your boat

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#83 m_machine024
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For single player games, ok. For multiplayer games..... it could get annoying.
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#84 mo0ksi
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Just pathetic that lemmings are actually defending this.:lol::lol:Spybot_9
So you'd rather want less content instead of more?

Disc changing isn't impossible.

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#85 II-FBIsniper-II
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Just pathetic that lemmings are actually defending this.:lol::lol:Spybot_9
Tell me what is wrong with changing discs.
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#86 PS_John
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LOOL at having to swap discs half way through a race
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#87 st1ka
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LOOL at having to swap discs half way through a racePS_John

PS_john youre back :D

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#88 crunchUK
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[QUOTE="Spybot_9"]Just pathetic that lemmings are actually defending this.:lol::lol:II-FBIsniper-II
Tell me what is wrong with changing discs.

teh blu ray is better :roll:. installation anyone? DISK MANAGEMENT anyone???? pathetic, cows.

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All speculation.
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#90 jonesy1911
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[QUOTE="X_CAPCOM_X"]Are people going to be changing discs to play online? I don't get it. How can there be a multi-disc racing game?BioShockOwnz

It's not that hard to understand. Half the content on one disc and the other half on the other disc. I'm amazed some fanboys are actually so delusional to think or say that they'll have to switch discs in the middle of a race. It's truly gotten to pathetic times on the damage control front.

If someone says you have to change disc in the middle of a race then that isnt damage control, damage controls is when you try to defend what you've said some something like, "oh but teh track will look better" thus controlling damage.
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#91 st1ka
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[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"][QUOTE="Spybot_9"]Just pathetic that lemmings are actually defending this.:lol::lol:crunchUK

Tell me what is wrong with changing discs.

teh blu ray is better :roll:. installation anyone? DISK MANAGEMENT anyone???? pathetic, cows.

its all really hipocrisy if you ask me, if instalations and disk management dont bother you then neither should switching disks, its true you may have a preference (for consoles i prefer switching disks, for PCs i prefer instalations) but you won´t seem bothered by that to the point of creating such a weak flamebait as the TC did

EDIT: oh and one more thing, if we count Forza 3 then that´s 3 games in the entire 360´s library that use multiple discs, which is a lot less then the number of PS3 games that require an instalation

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#92 whybuyaxbox360
Member since 2006 • 1774 Posts
epic failure if true.
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#93 marklarmer
Member since 2004 • 3883 Posts
[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="X_CAPCOM_X"]Are people going to be changing discs to play online? I don't get it. How can there be a multi-disc racing game?jonesy1911

It's not that hard to understand. Half the content on one disc and the other half on the other disc. I'm amazed some fanboys are actually so delusional to think or say that they'll have to switch discs in the middle of a race. It's truly gotten to pathetic times on the damage control front.

If someone says you have to change disc in the middle of a race then that isnt damage control, damage controls is when you try to defend what you've said some something like, "oh but teh track will look better" thus controlling damage.

one could argue that saying you have to change discs in the middle of a race is just damage control to finding out how many tracks and cars forza 3 is going to have. c'mon its a pretty weak way to attack a game.

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#94 rockguy92
Member since 2007 • 21559 Posts
How is this failure?
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#95 EuroMafia
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="X_CAPCOM_X"]Are people going to be changing discs to play online? I don't get it. How can there be a multi-disc racing game?jonesy1911

It's not that hard to understand. Half the content on one disc and the other half on the other disc. I'm amazed some fanboys are actually so delusional to think or say that they'll have to switch discs in the middle of a race. It's truly gotten to pathetic times on the damage control front.

If someone says you have to change disc in the middle of a race then that isnt damage control, damage controls is when you try to defend what you've said some something like, "oh but teh track will look better" thus controlling damage.

Does anyone with a little intelligence actually think even if this rumour is were true, that you'd actually have to switch a disc in the middle of a race?

Grasping for ownage much? Someone answer me please, because form what I'm hearing people are assuming this; whether true or not.

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#96 crunchUK
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[QUOTE="PS_John"]LOOL at having to swap discs half way through a racest1ka

PS_john youre back :D

i have reason to suspect he just wants everyone's attanetion the whole time so he makes stupid remarks ala this one

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#97 st1ka
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[QUOTE="st1ka"]

[QUOTE="PS_John"]LOOL at having to swap discs half way through a racecrunchUK

PS_john youre back :D

i have reason to suspect he just wants everyone's attanetion the whole time so he makes stupid remarks ala this one

i know, but its still amusing

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#98 clone01
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Just pathetic that lemmings are actually defending this.:lol::lol:Spybot_9

you seem to be the only person who has a real problem with it.

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#99 epic_pets
Member since 2008 • 5598 Posts
Not really a big deal
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#100 lawlessx
Member since 2004 • 48753 Posts

posting rumor's as facts?

classic fanboy move #2341