Forza 3 to be on 2 discs....

FFS, why do people take rumours as facts?

And also, Forza 2 is NOT a shallow pathetic joke of a sim either

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="X_CAPCOM_X"]Are people going to be changing discs to play online? I don't get it. How can there be a multi-disc racing game?BioShockOwnz

It's not that hard to understand. Half the content on one disc and the other half on the other disc. I'm amazed some fanboys are actually so delusional to think or say that they'll have to switch discs in the middle of a race. It's truly gotten to pathetic times on the damage control front.

Good job at making that all up. I'm curious too has how a racing game will be 2 discs.

Good job on missing out on those posts. It's been said, fact. I have enough weight here and enough people know I don't make up BS, so yes, it's been said.

Onto the 2 disc part. It was already said by the PGR team that they had issues with PGR4. Welcome to the world of HD, which fills a lot more disc space.

http://www.gamegrep.com/news/4101-dvd9_limiting_pgr4_should_microsoft_have_used_bluray/

Yeah, you have enough weight here that I avoid your comments 80% of the time. It gets hard since you change you icon so frequently, but your blabbering mouth gives you away everytime.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="X_CAPCOM_X"]Are people going to be changing discs to play online? I don't get it. How can there be a multi-disc racing game?D3monchicken

It's not that hard to understand. Half the content on one disc and the other half on the other disc. I'm amazed some fanboys are actually so delusional to think or say that they'll have to switch discs in the middle of a race. It's truly gotten to pathetic times on the damage control front.

Good job at making that all up. I'm curious too has how a racing game will be 2 discs.

Good job on missing out on those posts. It's been said, fact. I have enough weight here and enough people know I don't make up BS, so yes, it's been said.

Onto the 2 disc part. It was already said by the PGR team that they had issues with PGR4. Welcome to the world of HD, which fills a lot more disc space.

http://www.gamegrep.com/news/4101-dvd9_limiting_pgr4_should_microsoft_have_used_bluray/

Yeah, you have enough weight here that I avoid your comments 80% of the time. It gets hard since you change you icon so frequently, but your blabbering mouth gives you away everytime.

i hope one day i become a feared user :P

WTF are people bringing in this changing disks between a race BS and calling it complete fanboyisim when nobody except one guy said that.:|

Keep to the topic and dont damage control.Nobody is saying that you will have to change a disc in between a race.

And you think the devs are genoius that will devise a way to make a racing game feel good with multiple disks?Hmm if there was a way then PGR4 would have it.

Spybot_9

Dude, use your imagination. It will be SP on one disk and MP/Paint/Customization on the other.

posting rumor's as facts?

classic fanboy move #2341

lawlessx

[QUOTE="D3monchicken"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="X_CAPCOM_X"]Are people going to be changing discs to play online? I don't get it. How can there be a multi-disc racing game?st1ka

It's not that hard to understand. Half the content on one disc and the other half on the other disc. I'm amazed some fanboys are actually so delusional to think or say that they'll have to switch discs in the middle of a race. It's truly gotten to pathetic times on the damage control front.

Good job at making that all up. I'm curious too has how a racing game will be 2 discs.

Good job on missing out on those posts. It's been said, fact. I have enough weight here and enough people know I don't make up BS, so yes, it's been said.

Onto the 2 disc part. It was already said by the PGR team that they had issues with PGR4. Welcome to the world of HD, which fills a lot more disc space.

http://www.gamegrep.com/news/4101-dvd9_limiting_pgr4_should_microsoft_have_used_bluray/

Yeah, you have enough weight here that I avoid your comments 80% of the time. It gets hard since you change you icon so frequently, but your blabbering mouth gives you away everytime.

i hope one day i become a feared user :P

Haha, that's cute. Not sure if you are implying that the blabber mouth annoying kid who thinks he's popular is somehow scaring me or if you think that being feared is soemthing different.

Man, I'm like the most ignorant about video game design and yet even I know how they could do this.

Campaign files take up a significant amount of disc space. Pre-rendered CG as used in JRPGs are the most obvious examples of this. Sound files, pre-rendered cutscenes using the game engine etc take a up a lot of data. Car models, world textures, and ultimately tracks can be put onto discs very easily.

So basically, single player will get one disc. It could be an epic single player campaign on the level of V8 Supercars/TOCA Race driver or the NFS games.

Multiplayer, which requires none of those one-off data files can be on the other disc.

Man, I'm like the most ignorant about video game design and yet even I know how they could do this.

Campaign files take up a significant amount of disc space. Pre-rendered CG as used in JRPGs are the most obvious examples of this. Sound files, pre-rendered cutscenes using the game engine etc take a up a lot of data. Car models, world textures, and ultimately tracks can be put onto discs very easily.

So basically, single player will get one disc. It could be an epic single player campaign on the level of V8 Supercars/TOCA Race driver or the NFS games.

Multiplayer, which requires none of those one-off data files can be on the other disc.

FrozenLiquid

It a racing sim, like Gran Tourismo, there is no campaign like any of the titles you mention, no story, just a racing carrer mode

If they were smart, and considering, if the Rumor is true, we will have two great racing sim games out before Sony really has one full one, (that Gran Tourismo $40 demo don't count)

It will be seperated EXACTLY like Gran Tourismo 2, SIngle player Carrer on one disk, andf multiplayer, online and arcade on the other

I think its funny how cows laugh at Disk swapping, yet they don't mind being forced to install 5gigs for each game they play :lol:

Disk Swapping>>>>>>5 gigabyte Installations. I'll tell you why.

Disk swapping only happens every 10 hours or so. (You must be extremely lazy if you are bothered by this)

Installations are coming with nearly every PS3 game that's coming out.

They are 5 gigs. 5 GIGABYTES!!!

Every PS3 owner with a 20 gig hard drive will feel the pain. (Soon 60gig HDD will also feel it.)

You have no choice. You are forced to Install.

Pretty ridiculous to argue over a rumor about a game that hasn't been announced. The rumor doesn't even state what the second disc will be. It could be limited edition content, a disc switch or even an install disc.

I think its funny how cows laugh at Disk swapping, yet they don't mind being forced to install 5gigs for each game they play :lol:

Disk Swapping>>>>>>5 gigabyte Installations. I'll tell you why.

Disk swapping only happens every 10 hours or so. (You must be extremely lazy if you are bothered by this)

Installations are coming with nearly every PS3 game that's coming out.

They are 5 gigs. 5 GIGABYTES!!!

Every PS3 owner with a 20 gig hard drive will feel the pain. (Soon 60gig HDD will also feel it.)

You have no choice. You are forced to Install.

SpinoRaptor

But there are advantages like better sound with the BD format also. Nothing is 100% positive advantages.

But this is nothing to cry about and I seriously doubt anyone thinks you'll be switching discs mid-race.

And everyone sure complained when GT2 was on two discs.foxhound_fox

why complain?? back in the ps1 days they had no other option but to put it on 2 disks

hdd were unheard of on a console back then

And DVDs weren't readily available back in the ps1 days so really they had no choice

Microsoft on the other had could have easily prevented this by simply having a hdd on every console

I think its funny how cows laugh at Disk swapping, yet they don't mind being forced to install 5gigs for each game they play :lol:

Disk Swapping>>>>>>5 gigabyte Installations. I'll tell you why.

Disk swapping only happens every 10 hours or so. (You must be extremely lazy if you are bothered by this)

Installations are coming with nearly every PS3 game that's coming out.

They are 5 gigs. 5 GIGABYTES!!!

Every PS3 owner with a 20 gig hard drive will feel the pain. (Soon 60gig HDD will also feel it.)

You have no choice. You are forced to Install.

SpinoRaptor

GTAIV is only 3gb ?

also disk swapping is a pain imo id rather wait 10 minutes at the start and thats it

what if 360 games start coming with the single player on one disk and the multiplayer on the other? You get a new game your about half way through then you want to try some multiplayer .... swap disk after that you want to continue with the story .... swap disk then while playing you get a game invite ..... swap disk

see where im going with this ? installs are a once off 10 minute thing where as multiple disks will always be a pain

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor"]

I think its funny how cows laugh at Disk swapping, yet they don't mind being forced to install 5gigs for each game they play :lol:

Disk Swapping>>>>>>5 gigabyte Installations. I'll tell you why.

Disk swapping only happens every 10 hours or so. (You must be extremely lazy if you are bothered by this)

Installations are coming with nearly every PS3 game that's coming out.

They are 5 gigs. 5 GIGABYTES!!!

Every PS3 owner with a 20 gig hard drive will feel the pain. (Soon 60gig HDD will also feel it.)

You have no choice. You are forced to Install.

micky4889

GTAIV is only 3gb ?

also disk swapping is a pain imo id rather wait 10 minutes at the start and thats it

what if 360 games start coming with the single player on one disk and the multiplayer on the other? You get a new game your about half way through then you want to try some multiplayer .... swap disk after that you want to continue with the story .... swap disk then while playing you get a game invite ..... swap disk

see where im going with this ? installs are a once off 10 minute thing where as multiple disks will always be a pain

Id rather swap discs then instal them on ps3.....installing takes away HDD space aswell :P

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor"]

I think its funny how cows laugh at Disk swapping, yet they don't mind being forced to install 5gigs for each game they play :lol:

Disk Swapping>>>>>>5 gigabyte Installations. I'll tell you why.

Disk swapping only happens every 10 hours or so. (You must be extremely lazy if you are bothered by this)

Installations are coming with nearly every PS3 game that's coming out.

They are 5 gigs. 5 GIGABYTES!!!

Every PS3 owner with a 20 gig hard drive will feel the pain. (Soon 60gig HDD will also feel it.)

You have no choice. You are forced to Install.

micky4889

GTAIV is only 3gb ?

also disk swapping is a pain imo id rather wait 10 minutes at the start and thats it

what if 360 games start coming with the single player on one disk and the multiplayer on the other? You get a new game your about half way through then you want to try some multiplayer .... swap disk after that you want to continue with the story .... swap disk then while playing you get a game invite ..... swap disk

see where im going with this ? installs are a once off 10 minute thing where as multiple disks will always be a pain

Ok. Lets say you bought a new game (KZ2 or something) and you want to play it. BUT WAIT!!! You only have 2 gigs of HDD space left and the Installation is 4 gigs. You don't want to delete any other game Installations because you love them all and maybe you want to go back to them later. Whoops!! So much for Blu-Ray :lol:

See how disk swapping is better than Installations?

[QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="SpinoRaptor"]

I think its funny how cows laugh at Disk swapping, yet they don't mind being forced to install 5gigs for each game they play :lol:

Disk Swapping>>>>>>5 gigabyte Installations. I'll tell you why.

Disk swapping only happens every 10 hours or so. (You must be extremely lazy if you are bothered by this)

Installations are coming with nearly every PS3 game that's coming out.

They are 5 gigs. 5 GIGABYTES!!!

Every PS3 owner with a 20 gig hard drive will feel the pain. (Soon 60gig HDD will also feel it.)

You have no choice. You are forced to Install.

SpinoRaptor

GTAIV is only 3gb ?

also disk swapping is a pain imo id rather wait 10 minutes at the start and thats it

what if 360 games start coming with the single player on one disk and the multiplayer on the other? You get a new game your about half way through then you want to try some multiplayer .... swap disk after that you want to continue with the story .... swap disk then while playing you get a game invite ..... swap disk

see where im going with this ? installs are a once off 10 minute thing where as multiple disks will always be a pain

Ok. Lets say you bought a new game (KZ2 or something) and you want to play it. BUT WAIT!!! You only have 2 gigs of HDD space left and the Installation is 4 gigs. You don't want to delete any other game Installations because you love them all and maybe you want to go back to them later. Whoops!! So much for Blu-Ray :lol:

See how disk swapping is better than Installations?

Disc swapping comes at the expense of higher quality though. Like I said about, it's not all pros though.

[QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="SpinoRaptor"]

I think its funny how cows laugh at Disk swapping, yet they don't mind being forced to install 5gigs for each game they play :lol:

Disk Swapping>>>>>>5 gigabyte Installations. I'll tell you why.

Disk swapping only happens every 10 hours or so. (You must be extremely lazy if you are bothered by this)

Installations are coming with nearly every PS3 game that's coming out.

They are 5 gigs. 5 GIGABYTES!!!

Every PS3 owner with a 20 gig hard drive will feel the pain. (Soon 60gig HDD will also feel it.)

You have no choice. You are forced to Install.

mingo123

GTAIV is only 3gb ?

also disk swapping is a pain imo id rather wait 10 minutes at the start and thats it

what if 360 games start coming with the single player on one disk and the multiplayer on the other? You get a new game your about half way through then you want to try some multiplayer .... swap disk after that you want to continue with the story .... swap disk then while playing you get a game invite ..... swap disk

see where im going with this ? installs are a once off 10 minute thing where as multiple disks will always be a pain

Id rather swap discs then instal them on ps3.....installing takes away HDD space aswell :P

you can easliy just hit the delete button and you get the space back ?

also a 40gb could fit 8 or 9 games on it so i dont really see the problem but like i said imo i know people will disagree with me but thats how i see it also i got a 320gb for $88 so i dont have to worry :D

ebay FTW :P

[QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="SpinoRaptor"]

I think its funny how cows laugh at Disk swapping, yet they don't mind being forced to install 5gigs for each game they play :lol:

Disk Swapping>>>>>>5 gigabyte Installations. I'll tell you why.

Disk swapping only happens every 10 hours or so. (You must be extremely lazy if you are bothered by this)

Installations are coming with nearly every PS3 game that's coming out.

They are 5 gigs. 5 GIGABYTES!!!

Every PS3 owner with a 20 gig hard drive will feel the pain. (Soon 60gig HDD will also feel it.)

You have no choice. You are forced to Install.

SpinoRaptor

GTAIV is only 3gb ?

also disk swapping is a pain imo id rather wait 10 minutes at the start and thats it

what if 360 games start coming with the single player on one disk and the multiplayer on the other? You get a new game your about half way through then you want to try some multiplayer .... swap disk after that you want to continue with the story .... swap disk then while playing you get a game invite ..... swap disk

see where im going with this ? installs are a once off 10 minute thing where as multiple disks will always be a pain

Ok. Lets say you bought a new game (KZ2 or something) and you want to play it. BUT WAIT!!! You only have 2 gigs of HDD space left and the Installation is 4 gigs. You don't want to delete any other game Installations because you love them all and maybe you want to go back to them later. Whoops!! So much for Blu-Ray :lol:

See how disk swapping is better than Installations?

mabe 3 at a time but thats the max also i have a 320gb hdd so this will never be a problem for me

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor"][QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="SpinoRaptor"]

I think its funny how cows laugh at Disk swapping, yet they don't mind being forced to install 5gigs for each game they play :lol:

Disk Swapping>>>>>>5 gigabyte Installations. I'll tell you why.

Disk swapping only happens every 10 hours or so. (You must be extremely lazy if you are bothered by this)

Installations are coming with nearly every PS3 game that's coming out.

They are 5 gigs. 5 GIGABYTES!!!

Every PS3 owner with a 20 gig hard drive will feel the pain. (Soon 60gig HDD will also feel it.)

You have no choice. You are forced to Install.

Chutebox

GTAIV is only 3gb ?

also disk swapping is a pain imo id rather wait 10 minutes at the start and thats it

what if 360 games start coming with the single player on one disk and the multiplayer on the other? You get a new game your about half way through then you want to try some multiplayer .... swap disk after that you want to continue with the story .... swap disk then while playing you get a game invite ..... swap disk

see where im going with this ? installs are a once off 10 minute thing where as multiple disks will always be a pain

Ok. Lets say you bought a new game (KZ2 or something) and you want to play it. BUT WAIT!!! You only have 2 gigs of HDD space left and the Installation is 4 gigs. You don't want to delete any other game Installations because you love them all and maybe you want to go back to them later. Whoops!! So much for Blu-Ray :lol:

See how disk swapping is better than Installations?

Disc swapping comes at the expense of higher quality though. Like I said about, it's not all pros though.

What? Many games have Disk swaping and they seem to have excellent quality to me. (Final Fantasy?)

you can easliy just hit the delete button and you get the space back ?

also a 40gb could fit 8 or 9 games on it so i dont really see the problem but like i said imo i know people will disagree with me but thats how i see it also i got a 320gb for $88 so i dont have to worry :D

ebay FTW :P

micky4889

but still buying a bigger HDD or deleting previous installs to get more space is worse then standing up, inserting 2nd disc and then sitting down :D

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor"][QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="SpinoRaptor"]

I think its funny how cows laugh at Disk swapping, yet they don't mind being forced to install 5gigs for each game they play :lol:

Disk Swapping>>>>>>5 gigabyte Installations. I'll tell you why.

Disk swapping only happens every 10 hours or so. (You must be extremely lazy if you are bothered by this)

Installations are coming with nearly every PS3 game that's coming out.

They are 5 gigs. 5 GIGABYTES!!!

Every PS3 owner with a 20 gig hard drive will feel the pain. (Soon 60gig HDD will also feel it.)

You have no choice. You are forced to Install.

micky4889

GTAIV is only 3gb ?

also disk swapping is a pain imo id rather wait 10 minutes at the start and thats it

what if 360 games start coming with the single player on one disk and the multiplayer on the other? You get a new game your about half way through then you want to try some multiplayer .... swap disk after that you want to continue with the story .... swap disk then while playing you get a game invite ..... swap disk

see where im going with this ? installs are a once off 10 minute thing where as multiple disks will always be a pain

Ok. Lets say you bought a new game (KZ2 or something) and you want to play it. BUT WAIT!!! You only have 2 gigs of HDD space left and the Installation is 4 gigs. You don't want to delete any other game Installations because you love them all and maybe you want to go back to them later. Whoops!! So much for Blu-Ray :lol:

See how disk swapping is better than Installations?

mabe 3 at a time but thats the max also i have a 320gb hdd so this will never be a problem for me

Well what If I want to play more than 8 games? I will have to buy a larger HDD (Which are not cheap)

[QUOTE="micky4889"]you can easliy just hit the delete button and you get the space back ?

also a 40gb could fit 8 or 9 games on it so i dont really see the problem but like i said imo i know people will disagree with me but thats how i see it also i got a 320gb for $88 so i dont have to worry :D

ebay FTW :P

mingo123

but still buying a bigger HDD or deleting previous installs to get more space is worse then standing up, inserting 2nd disc and then sitting down :D

Thank you my friend. Its nice to see that not everyone is blind in SW :D

What? Many games have Disk swaping and they seem to have excellent quality to me. (Final Fantasy?)

SpinoRaptor

I just meant you can get better quality sound with BD, not game. Should have been more specific lol.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="SpinoRaptor"][QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="SpinoRaptor"]

I think its funny how cows laugh at Disk swapping, yet they don't mind being forced to install 5gigs for each game they play :lol:

Disk Swapping>>>>>>5 gigabyte Installations. I'll tell you why.

Disk swapping only happens every 10 hours or so. (You must be extremely lazy if you are bothered by this)

Installations are coming with nearly every PS3 game that's coming out.

They are 5 gigs. 5 GIGABYTES!!!

Every PS3 owner with a 20 gig hard drive will feel the pain. (Soon 60gig HDD will also feel it.)

You have no choice. You are forced to Install.

SpinoRaptor

GTAIV is only 3gb ?

also disk swapping is a pain imo id rather wait 10 minutes at the start and thats it

what if 360 games start coming with the single player on one disk and the multiplayer on the other? You get a new game your about half way through then you want to try some multiplayer .... swap disk after that you want to continue with the story .... swap disk then while playing you get a game invite ..... swap disk

see where im going with this ? installs are a once off 10 minute thing where as multiple disks will always be a pain

Ok. Lets say you bought a new game (KZ2 or something) and you want to play it. BUT WAIT!!! You only have 2 gigs of HDD space left and the Installation is 4 gigs. You don't want to delete any other game Installations because you love them all and maybe you want to go back to them later. Whoops!! So much for Blu-Ray :lol:

See how disk swapping is better than Installations?

Disc swapping comes at the expense of higher quality though. Like I said about, it's not all pros though.

What? Many games have Disk swaping and they seem to have excellent quality to me. (Final Fantasy?)

the fact is that the ps3 can do installs. I dont mind having to wait 10 mins before playing a game if it will make the game better. Devs cant do that on the 360 as not all the consoles have hard drives.

Devs dont HAVE to do installs, they WANT to to create a better game. With the 360 though you HAVE to use multiple disks, or you comprimise the game.

Plus you can buy a hard drive really cheap with over 100gigs of space. So I doubt installs will be too much of a problem.

I like the idea of installs, they make the game BETTER. if I could have installs on the 360 I would. But that does not mean you could get rid of disk swapping. you would be doing BOTH.

[QUOTE="micky4889"]you can easliy just hit the delete button and you get the space back ?

also a 40gb could fit 8 or 9 games on it so i dont really see the problem but like i said imo i know people will disagree with me but thats how i see it also i got a 320gb for $88 so i dont have to worry :D

ebay FTW :P

mingo123

but still buying a bigger HDD or deleting previous installs to get more space is worse then standing up, inserting 2nd disc and then sitting down :D

Its all down to preference :)

with all the invites to games i get id be up and down like a yo yo swaping disks so to me installs is best :P but again imo

[QUOTE="mingo123"][QUOTE="micky4889"]you can easliy just hit the delete button and you get the space back ?

also a 40gb could fit 8 or 9 games on it so i dont really see the problem but like i said imo i know people will disagree with me but thats how i see it also i got a 320gb for $88 so i dont have to worry :D

ebay FTW :P

SpinoRaptor

but still buying a bigger HDD or deleting previous installs to get more space is worse then standing up, inserting 2nd disc and then sitting down :D

Thank you my friend. Its nice to see that not everyone is blind in SW :D

I can see just fine thank you very much

'Insert Disk 2 Now'

lol welcome to the 80's lemmings.

[QUOTE="mingo123"][QUOTE="micky4889"]you can easliy just hit the delete button and you get the space back ?

also a 40gb could fit 8 or 9 games on it so i dont really see the problem but like i said imo i know people will disagree with me but thats how i see it also i got a 320gb for $88 so i dont have to worry :D

ebay FTW :P

micky4889

but still buying a bigger HDD or deleting previous installs to get more space is worse then standing up, inserting 2nd disc and then sitting down :D

Its all down to preference :)

with all the invites to games i get id be up and down like a yo yo swaping disks so to me installs is best :P but again imo

wanna play some BF BC demo in an hour?

[QUOTE="Fignewton50"][QUOTE="Spybot_9"]

[QUOTE="Rougehunter"]Didn't gran turismo 2 on the first PS come on 2 disk:?GaMeR_Willz

Sorry but a racing game on 2 disc is just failure and if they dont then it's still gonna be failure cuz they wont have enough features then.Good job MS keeping the 360 casual and not allowing mandatory installs.:lol:

Why is 2 discs failure exactly? Gran Turismo 2 did it just fine.

Gran Turismo 2 didn't used 2 discs. It got 1.

wrong

1 disk for gt mode and 1 disk for arcade mode, yeah the arcade disk was hardly ever used by it is still 2 disks

[QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="mingo123"][QUOTE="micky4889"]you can easliy just hit the delete button and you get the space back ?

also a 40gb could fit 8 or 9 games on it so i dont really see the problem but like i said imo i know people will disagree with me but thats how i see it also i got a 320gb for $88 so i dont have to worry :D

ebay FTW :P

mingo123

but still buying a bigger HDD or deleting previous installs to get more space is worse then standing up, inserting 2nd disc and then sitting down :D

Its all down to preference :)

with all the invites to games i get id be up and down like a yo yo swaping disks so to me installs is best :P but again imo

wanna play some BF BC demo in an hour?

I would only im stuck at work and wont be home till 5 :cry:micky4889

oh snap :cry: looks like ill have to pwn some noobs myself

the fact is that the ps3 can do installs.I dont mind having to wait 10 mins before playing a game if it will make the game better. Devs cant do that on the 360 as not all the consoles have hard drives.

Devs dont HAVE to do installs, they WANT to to create a better game. With the 360 though you HAVE to use multiple disks, or you comprimise the game.

Plus you can buy a hard drive really cheap with over 100gigs of space. So I doubt installs will be too much of a problem.

I like the idea of installs, they make the game BETTER. if I could have installs on the 360 I would. But that does not mean you could get rid of disk swapping. you would be doing BOTH.

NinjaMunkey01

So now your telling me Installations are a good thing? Yeah? How? What major benefits do they have ? Make the loading time 2 seconds less? Make the the FPS a couple frames more?

They don't make the game better ok? I have downloaded halo 3 maps that were 100mb each. These Installations are a couple of gigs. In what ways do those couple of gigs make the game a lot better?

Can you answer me that?

I'm not lazy, I can change a disc.BioShockOwnz

But inconvenient.

'Insert Disk 2 Now'

lol welcome to the 80's lemmings.

tenaka2

games used 2 dvds in the 80s?

'Insert Disk 2 Now'

lol welcome to the 80's lemmings.

tenaka2

Mid 90's.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

'Insert Disk 2 Now'

lol welcome to the 80's lemmings.

marklarmer

:lol:

FOR REAL? ever heard of the cartridge mate?

also INSTALLATIONS welcome to PC with all the good bits taken out cows. :lol:

[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]

the fact is that the ps3 can do installs.I dont mind having to wait 10 mins before playing a game if it will make the game better. Devs cant do that on the 360 as not all the consoles have hard drives.

Devs dont HAVE to do installs, they WANT to to create a better game. With the 360 though you HAVE to use multiple disks, or you comprimise the game.

Plus you can buy a hard drive really cheap with over 100gigs of space. So I doubt installs will be too much of a problem.

I like the idea of installs, they make the game BETTER. if I could have installs on the 360 I would. But that does not mean you could get rid of disk swapping. you would be doing BOTH.

SpinoRaptor

So now your telling me Installations are a good thing? Yeah? How? What major benefits do they have ? Make the loading time 2 seconds less? Make the the FPS a couple frames more?

They don't make the game better ok? I have downloaded halo 3 maps that were 100mb each. These Installations are a couple of gigs. In what ways do those couple of gigs make the game a lot better?

Can you answer me that?

eg, did you take of in a helicopter in gta on the 360 version ?? entire road blocks, buildings,roads just popin these problems are minimize thanks to the HDD in the ps3 hence why it does not suffer from this problem as badly as the 360 does

Lol yeah. That's why the 360 is a failure :lol:GaMeR_Willz

Wow, you're the same guy who suggested another user to go back to school.

also INSTALLATIONS welcome to PC with all the good bits taken out cows. :lol:

crunchUK

hmm, install at the beginning and experience shorter loads?

or change discs to change race tracks?

yeah, I'll take the latter :roll:

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

'Insert Disk 2 Now'

lol welcome to the 80's lemmings.

marklarmer

games used 2 dvds in the 80s?

No of course not, DVD's didn't become widely available until the 90s.

But I'm sure you understand what I mean, if you do not understand my comment then thats ok.

[QUOTE="Rougehunter"]Didn't gran turismo 2 on the first PS come on 2 disk:?Spybot_9

Sorry but a racing game on 2 disc is just failure and if they dont then it's still gonna be failure cuz they wont have enough features then.Good job MS keeping the 360 casual and not allowing mandatory installs.:lol:

Damagae control.

What a hypocrite, it happened to Sony, it's not a issue, but oh noez, 360 having two discs will kill you!

It's been brought up many times. I'm still amazed that some people can't change a disc. It was alright before, but now it's a hassle. How lazy have some become that they can't get off the couch for a second and switch out a disc? The damage control is through the roof on this one.

BioShockOwnz

Well, for me, the act of changing a disk is not the problem. My problem comes in when one of the disks gets scratched and doesn't want to play. Now you are screwed. It happened to me with Skies of Arcadia way back when, and I was not happy at all. You put in all that work and can't continue cause the next disk is messed up. This is the advantage of having everything fit on one disk. Also, Blurays are hard to scratch, and even if they are scratched, they still play fine.

[QUOTE="crunchUK"]

also INSTALLATIONS welcome to PC with all the good bits taken out cows. :lol:

beckhambender

hmm, install at the beginning and experience shorter loads?

or change discs to change race tracks?

yeah, I'll take the latter :roll:

i actually would. go enjoy your configurations and disk managements and menus on your pseudo-PC .