Forza 4 is better than GT 5

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#151 locopatho
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[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="ermacness"]It's the same thing, just reversed. UC2 have inferior sales to Gears 2, but in reviews, is the better game. Just like Forza is the better reviewed game, but have inferior sales.

ermacness

Who cares about Uuncharted or Gears? We talking about GT vs Forza. Guy says one GT game outsold all Forza games with a big smiley face, we are just enquiring as to what he means by that? Why is he happy that an inferior game outsold a superior entire series? Shouldn't that be a frowny sad face? That is, if you like good games and not just "winning" in some obscure way....

Not everyone agrees with critics, as proof had already been given to you.;)

So your only point is that loads of people like inferior stuff? I know that already....
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#152 ermacness
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[QUOTE="ermacness"]

]Did you even bother to read the quotes carefully?:lol: Rybe went off topic 1st, I just followed. I don't like either game really, but what I really don't like is for someone to bring up an attribute that "said" game is beating the favored game in, and the poster is shot down to pieces because the fans of that "superior" game is hurt that they can't argue that attribute that the "inferior" game best the "superior" game in.

KevinnButlerNPK

So instead of answering, you just make an excuse? You also described a typical fanboy ploy and responded as a fanboy. So you hate yourself?

Stop throwing boulders through that glass mansion of yours. How in the world can you call me out on being a fanboy, with sigs like that?:lol:

Try harder next time kiddo....;)

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#153 ermacness
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[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] Who cares about Uuncharted or Gears? We talking about GT vs Forza. Guy says one GT game outsold all Forza games with a big smiley face, we are just enquiring as to what he means by that? Why is he happy that an inferior game outsold a superior entire series? Shouldn't that be a frowny sad face? That is, if you like good games and not just "winning" in some obscure way....locopatho

Not everyone agrees with critics, as proof had already been given to you.;)

So your only point is that loads of people like inferior stuff? I know that already....

Just because it's inferior to YOU doesn't mean that it's inferior to others. GT5 cost about 60 bucks (like most current gen games, excluding Wii of course). So 5+ mill saw that GT5 was worth their 60 bucks. Just becase YOU don't like it doesn't mean that everyone else must hate it.:roll:

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#154 dream431ca
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I can't use my Logitech wheel on the 360 so no, it's not.

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#155 locopatho
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[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="ermacness"]Not everyone agrees with critics, as proof had already been given to you.;)

ermacness

So your only point is that loads of people like inferior stuff? I know that already....

Just because it's inferior to YOU doesn't mean that it's inferior to others. GT5 cost about 60 bucks (like most current gen games, excluding Wii of course). So 5+ mill saw that GT5 was worth their 60 bucks. Just becase YOU don't like it doesn't mean that everyone else must hate it.:roll:

And again, no one said hate except you... I'm going to stop talking to you, since you have no argument except to yell random made up stuff at me, and try parley sales == quality... No thanks, I bid you good day sir :)
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#156 daviwinn
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I can't use my Logitech wheel on the 360 so no, it's not.

dream431ca
get a better wheel then?
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#157 ermacness
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[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] So your only point is that loads of people like inferior stuff? I know that already.... locopatho

Just because it's inferior to YOU doesn't mean that it's inferior to others. GT5 cost about 60 bucks (like most current gen games, excluding Wii of course). So 5+ mill saw that GT5 was worth their 60 bucks. Just becase YOU don't like it doesn't mean that everyone else must hate it.:roll:

And again, no one said hate except you... I'm going to stop talking to you, since you have no argument except to yell random made up stuff at me, and try parley sales == quality... No thanks, I bid you good day sir :)

You gave up because YOU lost the debate. You had no ground to stand on. It's clearly visible in your last sentence when in fact, I never stated that. All I stated was that the guy who posted that was stating a fact. Nothing more, nothing less, but great day to you to sir...;)

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#158 masiisam
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I can't use my Logitech wheel on the 360 so no, it's not.

dream431ca

...you can use and emulator/adaptor...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srJeN-pI3LM&feature=related

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#159 shadow8585
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The only real argument is graphics (which F4 seems to have beat GT5 on) because in terms of everything else, Forza rolls, lights and smokes GT
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#160 Hashim19
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The only real argument is graphics (which F4 seems to have beat GT5 on) because in terms of everything else, Forza rolls, lights and smokes GTshadow8585
Forza winning in graphics only but gT5 have some cool details
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#161 fralee3
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Im a gamer I like both series Xp win for me!!! check out this awesome story. A Gran Turismo Gamer Takes 2nd Place In Real-Life Le Mans Race. http://www.lazytechguys.com/featured/gran-turismo-gamer-takes-2nd-place-in-real-life-le-mans-race/#disqus_thread
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#162 PandaTrueno86
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I bet Forza 4 will have an academy similar to GT5's...but awesome result!

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#163 lucky_star
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I bet Forza 4 will have an academy similar to GT5's...but awesome result!

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Real cars dont have autopilots that help you keep on track.
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#164 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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Forza 3 is better, so of course 4 will be better. GT5 is so boring and lame, and the online componenet sucked. If you want good racing games, get Forza or Dirt 3.

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#165 pl4yer_f0und
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GT5 did have better driving, and it WAS a great game. However, I got bored with it since those times when GT5 really shines are too sparse.

Since Forza 4 looks like it will have GT5's level of premium car modeling CONSISTENTLY, better lighting, better enviroments, autovista mode (car porn), jermey clarkson, better driving model**(im not sure about this, but according to the guys at simracingtonight, Forza 4 at es 2011 had "the best driving model on consoles"), better painting, better tuning, better career mode, better car sounds, better menus.

so... FM4>GT5, but GT5 is good anyways

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#166 AdmiralBison
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[QUOTE="usule"]

Isn't Forza 2 better than gt5?

ScottMescudi

Isn't Forza better than gt5?

Ok now that's really hitting below the belt.LOL

I'm considering getting GT5 instead, but not because of the game.. It's because I have a $400 Logitec G25 wheel that really needs to be used and I can't use it on the Xbox360.

(I know what I said was heresy... but really the steering wheel is that good)

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#167 AdmiralBison
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[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

I can't use my Logitech wheel on the 360 so no, it's not.

masiisam

...you can use and emulator/adaptor...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srJeN-pI3LM&feature=related

I've got that.

It doesn't work properly- well maybe not on Test Drive unlimited as the buttons are incorrectly placed and I can only steer to the left for some funny reason.

I still don't know why Logitech and MS can not have their peripherals on the Xbox360.

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#168 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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People also seem to forget the 3D factor with GT5. I bought a 3D tv this past month, and will be recieving a few pairs of 3D glasses this week. I'll have a chance to give a more thorough go at GT5 in 3D.

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#169 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="PandaTrueno86"]

I bet Forza 4 will have an academy similar to GT5's...but awesome result!

lucky_star
Real cars dont have autopilots that help you keep on track.

Yes they do. They're called traction and stability control. :|
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#170 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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[QUOTE="lucky_star"][QUOTE="PandaTrueno86"]

I bet Forza 4 will have an academy similar to GT5's...but awesome result!

The_Game21x

Real cars dont have autopilots that help you keep on track.

Yes they do. They're called traction and stability control. :|

:lol:nice one.

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#171 masiisam
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[QUOTE="masiisam"]

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

I can't use my Logitech wheel on the 360 so no, it's not.

AdmiralBison

...you can use and emulator/adaptor...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srJeN-pI3LM&feature=related

I've got that.

It doesn't work properly- well maybe not on Test Drive unlimited as the buttons are incorrectly placed and I can only steer to the left for some funny reason.

I still don't know why Logitech and MS can not have their peripherals on the Xbox360.

It seemed to work with FM3 when the guys over at inside sim did the youtube video. Maybe not so much with TDU. In any event its a option for the folks that have a Logitech.

My understanding of why Logitech wheels don't work with the 360 is because LT uses HID for there force feed back and the 360 does not support the protocol. LT doesn't want to rewrite the script just for the 360.

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#172 psn8214
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LT doesn't want to rewrite the script just for the 360.

masiisam

Laaaaame. I'd love to use my G27 with my 360, especially since Forza feels so drab with a controller (stupid steering assist).

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#173 Mr_Cumberdale
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[QUOTE="usule"]

Isn't Forza 2 better than gt5?

DJ_Lae
Pretty much.

You cans say Forza 2 is better than Forza 4 also. Forza 3 is the most overrated game I have played this gen, as well as the worst racing game I have bought in my life.
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#174 Ravensmash
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This thread inspired me to play some Forza 3 online. It's great counteracting aggressive driving by leaving them in the dust and just riding on, kid got so mad at me :D

[QUOTE="masiisam"]

LT doesn't want to rewrite the script just for the 360.

psn8214

Laaaaame. I'd love to use my G27 with my 360, especially since Forza feels so drab with a controller (stupid steering assist).

I believe ASM is optional in Forza 4 now :)
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#175 Snugenz
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[QUOTE="DJ_Lae"][QUOTE="usule"]

Isn't Forza 2 better than gt5?

Mr_Cumberdale

Pretty much.

You cans say Forza 2 is better than Forza 4 also. Forza 3 is the most overrated game I have played this gen, as well as the worst racing game I have bought in my life.

Did you like GT5?.

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#176 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="DJ_Lae"][QUOTE="usule"]

Isn't Forza 2 better than gt5?

Mr_Cumberdale
Pretty much.

You cans say Forza 2 is better than Forza 4 also. Forza 3 is the most overrated game I have played this gen, as well as the worst racing game I have bought in my life.

How many have you brought? 2? :P
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#177 psn8214
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I believe ASM is optional in Forza 4 now :)Ravensmash

It should have been optional all along. :P For a game that I constantly see being touted as the pinnacle of console-racers, I find it somewhat odd that an incredibly noticeable aid is forced on the player. GT5 with all assists off gives a good deal more control to the player.

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#178 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] I believe ASM is optional in Forza 4 now :)psn8214

It should have been optional all along. :P For a game that I constantly see being touted as the pinnacle of console-racers, I find it somewhat odd that an incredibly noticeable aid is forced on the player. GT5 with all assists off gives a good deal more control to the player.

Oh definitely, but it's good that they finally listened to the community. I'd love a server list like GT5 too.
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#179 psn8214
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I'd love a server list like GT5 too.Ravensmash

I'd love it if competent people had had a say in designing GT5. They ****ed so much up, and it's still practically a better experience than Forza.

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#180 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] I'd love a server list like GT5 too.psn8214

I'd love it if competent people had had a say in designing GT5. They ****ed so much up, and it's still practically a better experience than Forza.

I'd say that they're both great games, but little bits from each combined would make an amazing game. GT5 should streamline the menus (seriously, some of the worst I've seen - it's like they went for elegance but just made doing anything a hassle).
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#181 psn8214
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I'd say that they're both great games, but little bits from each combined would make an amazing game. Ravensmash

True that, my man, true that.

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#182 daviwinn
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If they copy anything from GT5s multplayer I hope it is the prerace lobby system. Jumping onto the track for a few practice laps is infinitely better than staring at the lobby screen when you're waiting for people to finish bathroom/smoke breaks between races.
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#183 Ravensmash
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If they copy anything from GT5s multplayer I hope it is the prerace lobby system. Jumping onto the track for a few practice laps is infinitely better than staring at the lobby screen when you're waiting for people to finish bathroom/smoke breaks between races.daviwinn
This. And the soundtrack....oh boy is Forza 3's soundtrack awful :P
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#184 flexin007
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The original Mario Cart is better and more fun than GT5.

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#185 RoOodriGowW
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Uh that's pretty much a given considering that even forza 3 is better.

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#186 Hashim19
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Uh that's pretty much a given considering that even forza 3 is better.

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In gameplay i dont think forza beats Gt5
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#187 Hashim19
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The original Mario Cart is better and more fun than GT5.

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Wii fanboy welcome :p
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#188 Handful_of_Cog
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I have played GT5 and Forza3 a ton. Forza has better menus, music, way better customization options etc etc. But Gt5 has much better handling and feel and I'll choose that 10 out of 10 times. Forza plays like more of an arcade racer to me, Gt5 beats Fm3 we'll have to wait and see about Fm4
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#189 Androvinus
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Does gran turismo 5 have anything going for it other than large numbers? Even NFS shift 2 has better crash physics and customization than GT5.
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#190 Hashim19
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[QUOTE="flexin007"]

The original Mario Cart is better and more fun than GT5.

Hashim19
Wii fanboy welcome :p

Feel wise nad handling wise GT5 right :D
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#191 BakaGoose
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I haven't seen the car list for Forza 4 yet, but GT5 had all the cars that I wanted to try out. Unless Forza does something Extremely new and has the few cars that I wanted in GT5 I'm not even going to bother thinking about it.
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#192 MobilechicaneX
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Are people really calling GT5 a sim and Forza 3 a arcade racer? Their driving models are very similar. I'd go with Forza, though, since it has much better collision physics and has a weighted feel like a car should. GT5 is far more of an arcade racer than Forza 3 by a long shot.

And when you talk about anything other than driving model, Forza 3 is objectively better in all regards.

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#193 Hashim19
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Are people really calling GT5 a sim and Forza 3 a arcade racer? Their driving models are very similar. I'd go with Forza, though, since it has much better collision physics and has a weighted feel like a car should. GT5 is far more of an arcade racer than Forza 3 by a long shot.

And when you talk about anything other than driving model, Forza 3 is objectively better in all regards.

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Forza never looked like arcade racer
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#194 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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I just recieved my 3D glasses today. With the right setup, this is no comparison. GT5 takes the cake--HOLYCR@P!!!

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#195 LOXO7
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I can't wait for Forza 5! It's going to be so cool. 8)

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#196 jimmypsn
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short answer. yes

long answer. yesssssssssss.

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#197 Snugenz
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I can't wait for Forza 5! It's going to be so cool. 8)

LOXO7

Damn right it will be, and maybe by then GT5 will be patched enough to be as good as F3 :P