Forza 6 Gamespot Review: 8.0

That all depends if we look at these scores like school and the way the majority of reviewers seem to treat scoring games over the last few decades, or if we decide to look at it mathematically although most reviewers don't seem to be doing that.

Every time I've seen a 70-79/100 on metascritic, I've always associated the 70%-ish scoring game with a "C" rank (over the last decade since Gamerrankings and Metacritic became a thing although I was around before those sites). You may be different, but a 7/10 reads to me as a C. I look at reviews the way a school teacher looks at grades and the way that many reviewers look at games. 90% or higher is magical although I would argue it shouldn't be, that's just the way it's been for years.

For whatever reason, there is a fine line between 89% and 90%, but there shouldn't be as mathematically it's 1%, but even publishers make a HUGE, HUGE deal about that 1%, NO JOKE. Bonnie Ross of 343 made a huge deal about getting 90+ at metacritic and so do EA, Ubisoft, M$, Activision, and many other publishers. It shouldn't be that way, but we aren't dealing with ideals here. Developers raises and livelihood depends on that mystical and sought after rare 90+ metascore. We gamers can pretend it doesn't mean much but I look at the grading and scoring system the way the industry look at it and taught me to look at it over the many years of me analyzing the data. I wish it was all mathematical and ideal, but alas, it's not.

The ranking that a game receives is regarded as a barometer for whether a title will sell well, with many game industry veterans and analysts saying a game needs to score in the mid-80s to be a certified hit.

“I’d be hard pressed to buy a 60-rated game,” said Josh Holmes, “Halo 4′s” creative director.

“Anything below 75–that’s the kiss of death.”

Also, bear in mind GS doesn't have a system that allows for 8.1, 8.2, 8.5, 8.6, 8.9, etc. A game is on a ten point scale. The reviewer had a choice, rate the game an "8" or a "9". If the reviewer felt the game deserved say a 8.8, he had no way to give the game that. He had to decide if Forza 6 gets the magical AAA 9/10 score or not. He opted to go with an 8/10.

Anyways, my main point was asking that user questions about:

Was it Xboxspot when 2013's Forza 5 got a 9/10 GS score and got a 79/100 at Metacritic?

Was it Xboxspot when 2013's The Last of Us got a 8/10 GS score and got a 95/100 Metascore?

Was it Xboxspot when 2014's The Last of Us Remastered (with all DLC) got another 8/10 and got another 95/100 Metascore?

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I want @oflow to get back to that.

@Ant_17:

Additionally, any complaints need to be rendered mute as Turn 10 only got permission on the tracks to do rain if they did it accurately. The only improvement would be the rain gradually collecting on the track over time, but most races aren't long enough for that to be a worthwhile pursuit. Oh well, this'll likely be my favorite sim-ish racer to go along with my fave arcade-ish racer, Horizon 2.

Don't it have endurance or Le mans 24?

And my only complaint is the linear SP mode. Haven't played to see how it feels , but i think it will be good.

And rain collecting can't be seen so well when you are taking corners with 90mph.

1) I don't know, as no reviews listed all of the showcase events. If Forza has those races, they'll have to be showcase events.

2) That is an honest complaint. I seem to remember Gran Turismo 3 and 4 being the same way, but it was so long ago that I'm not sure. **Note: I didn't like GT4, so I may not have played enough to find out.

3) The rain was designed to be another obstacle. While gradual collection in puddles would've been cooler, at least it's accurate and challenging. I wonder if those races can be skipped by those who don't want to race in the rain?

@GrenadeLauncher: I guess you could say the same of PlayStation fanboys

You could.

Then why single out xbox fans as "scum"

@lostrib: and where do we fit in? Is this just one of those perfect opportunities to troll people?

Let's be frank, they're without doubt the worst fanbase in videogames alongside Sonic drones.

So I just read that 60/100 GamesRadar review and oh boy is that guy hoping for clicks, this is a 'simulation' racer where you start from the pits of nothing and work your way up just like every other simulation racer and he's bashing it for having to go through the hoops to get nice things and get to the exciting races with fast cars. On top of this he's bashing its "inconsistent" difficulty, or in other words the Drivatar system, something that reflects more realistically how a race actually is than any form of pathed and programmed AI.

Difficulty will vary, things will change, it's supposed to reflect human tendencies, mistakes, lack of mistakes and in other words a race that humans are in. This also ties into the payout system which he is also bashing, it's inconsistent because it's based upon your performance in the race, if you do bad, rewind, crash into a bunch of shit, you're going to get a lower payout, this isn't advanced physics here...

This is also the guy who gave Driveclub an 80/100, that in and of itself is a fucking joke, this to me is someone not being objective, someone not into simulation racers and more into the Need for Speed kind of game and someone hoping to garner attention to his website. I realize that a review is subjectivity, but when your basis for bashing aspects of a game are illogical given the context of the game, you have no business reviewing it.

Another goalpost move from the cows as usual.Now 8 means flop in these forums.

Xbox games might was well only be judged from 1-9 since they get an automatic -1 from being reviewed by PS4 fans and PS4 games need to be 2-11 since they get an automatic +1 like Journey for some reason.

Anti-XboxSpot. The demo is the best Forza I have ever seen or experienced so far. The full game will be a masterpiece to true racing game enthusiast. Forget this reviewer and his mom.

yeah its funny Polyphony take years and years to put out a game and its still not to the quality of "annual trash" Forza

LOL

I don't think the game should get a 10, I mean I haven't played it yet, but that is one of the most nitpicky bullshit negatives I have ever seen. That thought of replays and pits running at 30 FPS never even occurred to me as some form of a negative, ever. Maybe it was a development decision, maybe there is a technical reason behind it, it's just a dumb thing to whine about, it makes the reviewer look like a jackass

This game should likely be a 9/10 here, to me that comes off like "I have nothing negative to actually say about this game and it's a 9/10, but let me just find something to bitch about".

Nothing because we all know it will (PSspot FTW) and everyone will be too busy playing it to read your shitty troll posts lol.

That's pretty much what I said, I never said it didn't deserve its score or that it was bad, I just said it's an inaccessible niche franchise which attracts very few people and I tried to enjoy it but the way it works has made that an impossibility for me.

GS review is a flop. Only listed one bad thing about the game, "Replays still run at less than 60 frames per second" and they give this game an 8? What a joke GS reviews are. The game is easily much better then Forza 5 which they gave a 9. lol!! Gamespot should just fire all their reviewers and start fresh.

Now let's check out the real scores. Score of an 88 on Metacritics. Sounds about right considering Forza 5 had a 79 score.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-one/forza-motorsport-6/critic-reviews

The facts are hard to swallow for some, I know. lol!! Was there even a Forza 6 hype thread made? Give me the link. In any case, The reviewer is a Flop here. The game is definitely better then Forza 5 and the scores on Metacritic proves this in spades. GS got it wrong with TLOU and they got it wrong again here. No worries. It'll still be a day one game for most XB1 owners.

And??? Should I be one dimensional and brain dead fanboy like you?

No that is a butthurt way to downplay a game that got 9 here and even higher outside,what you like or care for is irrelevant,but but but inaccessible niche game it seem pretty accessible to me when i bought it on gamestop regardless of been niche,considering it sold 1 million few weeks after launch probably close to 2 million by now,which is what Forza 5 sold...lol

Hahahaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa... Compare this to NyaDC meltdown and tell me people if they are not the same account.. Him NyaDC B4X...lol

Is a racing game that pretty much does nothing innovative,more content wow,Forza 5 shouldn't have so little in the first place,night racing and weather yeah welcome to last gen turn 10.

The series it to milk by now and the 1 yearly crap is hurting the game,there is no reason why Forza should get a mery go round with 2 chapters year over year is hurting the series.

You know what the fun part is? That i call gamespot Forza 5 over score and no one believe me,gamespot had an exclusive preview before no one else months before everyone else,and the game scored 9.

They slammed GT6 for having a few microtransactions even that GT6 had a ton of cars included in the game without microtransactions.

""Acquiring the best cars is either a time-consuming grind or a major expense""

I wonder should this even be put as a bad point.? Are you suppose to have all cars unlock from the start.?

How something like that would be rewarding.?

How can you complain that something is a major expense when you can get it free by just playing.?

Funny thing is that when GT6 came out Forza 5 was already out,so comparing both version was easy,and Forza 5 had less tracks,way less cars and tons more of microtransactions get never was mention on the review as a bad point.

Fun thing now is that lemmings back them claimed gamespot was right and that Meta didn't matter,i know because i use metascore on the GT vs Forza thread were GT6 had 81 and Forza 5 had 79,but now those same lemmings claim fault here and claim Forza 5 was over rated here with less content and that should have score lower than Forza 6...

Hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Is quite epic...

Na you are quite worse a lemming who hides on PC and that get butthurt by things that happen to the xbox one..hahahahaa

• We're all familiar that niche simply pertains to a specific group, we know this, we don't need an English lesson, however you know the niche I am speaking of and exactly how it pertains.

• It's a hack and slash game, it's repetitive in the fact that you in general will have to repeat multiple sections of the game, and not only that if you revisit the same locations the enemies spawn all over again, it's stupid. Also the enemies do the same things over and over again to the point that it becomes monotonous, their attack tells are far too predictable, one encounter and you know exactly what they are going to do and you have to do.

• Yes and no, It being inaccessible explains the niche, however they are not synonymous for each other. How can you call something like Arma inaccessible but at the same time scapegoat that with Bloodborne and use the excuse of 'well it's just got a steep learning curve', give me a break Char, really?

• Not all RPG's are grinds.

• Let me put it to you this way, it may have a 'story', 'plot' whatever you want to call it, however it's as hollow and devoid of substance as an empty coke can.

• Oh it most certainly does look cross-gen, don't kid yourself, I'm not saying it looks last gen so don't get your knickers in a twist. This is obviously a game that began its development life as a PlayStation 3 title, engine and all, and was upgraded with current generation effects and technology plastered over the base graphics engine, assets etc.

I'm not wrong about it, I'm just not blinded by love and loyalty so to speak like most of you are, I see what's there, but I also see what's not. I have no vested interest or like for these games, I actually hate them because they're so close to me liking them that I resent them ten fold worse because of the issues I just can't get over. If you want me to chalk this up and walk away with "this just doesn't appeal to me", well I can't, because it does, I'm drawn to it, however like I said certain gameplay aspects are so terrible in my eyes that I can't stomach to invest another second in it. If there wasn't all this respawn bullshit and ridiculous checkpoint systems, I would no doubt love it, but those things retract from the experience for me so severely, that I just can't be bothered to continue playing it.

More like a terrible reviewer who doesn't know how to review a game properly. There's a LOT of that on this sight if you didn't know.

See The Last of Us received a hype level of AAAE and only managed to hit AAE, it was a bonified flop.

Forza 6 received no hype thread therefore no hype could fail to be met thus it is not a flop.

If you do not want to abide by the rules of System Wars you are free to leave.

Which lead me to ask what the fu** happen with lemmings,Forza 5 got 4 different hype thread several that were closed,but Forza 6 non,in fact if it would have seeing how lemmings think this game should have score higher than Forza 5 is a given it would have flop,in fact most of you here claim the game should have been a 9..hahhahahaaa

Maybe after Forza Horizon 2 flop,Halo MCC flop and Gears Flop recently i think lemmings are scare of hype threads..hahahaa

Fact is games like Infamous get drop down here for scoring 8 but somehow Forza and other xbox games are great when they hit 8...hahahha

This thread is just running in circles now. "You're a hypocrite." "No, you're a hypocrite" rinse and repeat.

Forza 6 scored lower than Forza 5. Fact.

There was no hype thread. Fact.

Tormentos is here. Fact.

Some Lems are making themselves look bad. Fact.

The game can't really flop without a hype thread. That being said, an 8 is never a good score for a flagship exclusive. The damage would have been less if there was a hype thread and Lems hyped it an 8 though. (See Infamous Second Son hype thread)

This thread should be locked so Tormentos can get back to playing something rather than making Lems feel bad.

Same could be said for butthurt Cows when TLOU scored an 8 here (twice) and a 95 score on Metacritic. lol!! Cows cared a LOT about Metacritic that day. El Tormo couldn't post enough links to the site in an hour time limit. lol!! I'd take Metacritic over GS any day of the week.

He's having a meltdown. What most cows do when things don't go their way.

QuadKnight is having a meltdown because Forza 6 isn't a FLOP. lol!! Talking about a desperate cow. QuackKnight, do us all a favor. Sit down and STFU!!. lol!!

What NyaDC said. Only one butthurt and crying in this thread is QuadKnight. Give it up dude. You've failed..... miserably.

It's ok. The game got lots of 10's and 9's on other sites, just like The Last of Us did. Not a flop without a hype thread. SW rules.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-one/forza-motorsport-6/critic-reviews

Salty Cows have more flops like Driveflop, The Odor 1882.

Basically cows are like 'ahhhhhhhhhhhhh floooooooopped, floppedy floppy flop flop HAHA ha... shit, no one bothered to create a hype thread'.

LMAO

Everyone was too busy with MGS to hype the fucking game.

To be fair, no one knew the reviews were coming did they? I thought FM6 is coming out in a a couple of weeks or something.

Fact is TLOU is the worst screw up review this site has ever made,so screw up that they were force to name it game of the year on PS3 over other games that scored higher here.

Beyond 2 souls = 9

The puppeteer = 9

Ni NO Kuni = 9

With a horde of other multiplatforms games that scored 9 as well on PS3.

And they name TLOU PS3 game of the year.? Which scored 8.?

In fact TLOU may have well set a precedent here,i think it is the first game ever on this site to be name game of the year on 1 platform while having lower score than several other exclusive in that same platform.

No other game that i know scored lower than another exclusive and was able to walk with the crown of GOTY for that platform.

That bad gamespot screw up was.

It didn't flop because you people didn't have the guts to make a thread,in fact for Forza 5 there were 4 hype threads,for this one because lemmings are scare of being flopped,Gears flopped,Halo MCC flopped and Forza Horizon 2 flopped which you try to deny,a hype thread was made and a poll was made and votes counted it flopped..lol

Again you quoting your other account is epic dude..

And many are 80's which is why it is under 90 score on meta unlike TLOU.

You lemmings have the bigger ones...

It started with Forza Horizon 2,which flopped it was hyped 9 and got an 8,then the biggest flop ever recorded on this site Halo MCC it was hyped 9 scored 6,and considering it is a collection of 9 games basically it was worse,after all TLOU on PS4 retained its 8 score here,and recently Gears of war hyped 8 scored 7...lol

That is not actually a good thing,no hype thread was create which show how badly scare lemmings are of their games flopping,in facts most rabid lemmings here claim the game should be score a 9,that should tell you something about what the hype would have being.

NO hype thread no flop is the rule,but is funny how the so call killer xbox one holiday line up has turn into salt and tears,8 on Forza 6,Gears of war landed a 7,this is no killer line up at all...

I thought the reviews would come out 2-3 days before the launch of the game. Think most "lems" were caught by surprise.

Forza 5 thread was made on November 13,Forza 5 score came in on November 20,so a full week before the score release Forza 5 hype thread was made.

Let's be frank, they're without doubt the worst fanbase in videogames alongside Sonic drones.

lol Sony fanboys like you and the others SW regulars spend more time talking about Xbox than you do PS4. Look at your post histories. Look at Shewgenja's, xboxstache or tormentos. 95-percent of everything you guys post is about Xbox. You guys cant stop talking about Xbox.

At least lemmings actually like Xbox. You guys apparently dont even like PS4 you just like to hate Xbox. I almost never see you guys saying anything about PS4 games. All you do is talk shit about Xbox. I get that half you guys are butthurt former lems that switched to PS4 this gen, but give it a rest already.

lol Sony fanboys like you and the others SW regulars spend more time talking about Xbox than you do PS4. Look at your post histories. Look at Shewgenja's, xboxstache or tormentos. 95-percent of everything you guys post is about Xbox. You guys cant stop talking about Xbox.

At least lemmings actually like Xbox. You guys apparently dont even like PS4 you just like to hate Xbox. I almost never see you guys saying anything about PS4 games. All you do is talk shit about Xbox. I get that half you guys are butthurt former lems that switched to PS4 this gen, but give it a rest already.

There was no hype thread and nobody made one for it.

We all know the hype for this game was AAA. We didn't need a hype thread to determine that.

This thread is just running in circles now. "You're a hypocrite." "No, you're a hypocrite" rinse and repeat.

Forza 6 scored lower than Forza 5. Fact.

There was no hype thread. Fact.

Tormentos is here. Fact.

Some Lems are making themselves look bad. Fact.

The game can't really flop without a hype thread. That being said, an 8 is never a good score for a flagship exclusive. The damage would have been less if there was a hype thread and Lems hyped it an 8 though. (See Infamous Second Son hype thread)

This thread should be locked so Tormentos can get back to playing something rather than making Lems feel bad.

Pretty much how I feel, an 8 for a AAA franchise feels like quite a flop to me and it's fun to see Lems doing the same shit cows were doing at the start of this gen, although I'll say in infamous's case it was more understandable given Infamous 2 scored a 7.5.

I get a kick out of the flip flopping. When F5 got a 9 but a 79/100 on meta and FH2 got an 8 and an 86/100 on meta it was paraded by cows that forza was no longer an AAA franchise on these very boards. But now that GS gives F6 an 8, its a bad score for an AAA franchise? How many times is it going to "Lose its AAA status"? LOL

@ReadingRainbow4: So you are going strictly by GS then? And you are disregarding Meta and what has been said about this franchise since the release and subsequent scores of FH2?

I have been told numerous times this is no longer an AAA franchise because of Metacritic, and now it doesn't get an AAA score and its some how bad?

@ReadingRainbow4: Hey I'm just saying, I've been told its not an AAA franchise and now some how its bad that it didn't score AAA. Like I said, and it isn't just to you, how many times are cows going to act like this losing its AAA status is a big deal? Until they get a racer that can compete?

@ReadingRainbow4: I wont quote you. Just make a hype thread so all this BS counts. I didn't because LOL racing sims. As exciting as the Mayweather fight Saturday

Another perfect example of the butthurt lemming with his persecution complex.

I like all consoles. Oh, except the Xbone. Absolutely worthless. :)