Forza 6 Gamespot Review: 8.0

Not seeing this consensus

All I was told by cows since this gen started is Forza 5 9 here but 79/100 meta; FH2 8 here but 86/100 meta. It was used as attacks that this franchise is nolonger AAA. So now it isn't and its a flop? You still haven't proven the majority were calling this AAA.

I don't care if the game flopped or not. My argument is that games don't have to have hype threads for there to be hype. You seem to think a hype thread is required which I've already proven it doesn't. I do think its funny that Forza has been hyped as a AAA franchise all this time and now nobody gives a shit.

No HYPE thread FLOP? Egads, that's the worst kind.

I'm in agreement here, judging hype solely based on an "Official thread," just doesn't add up.

Just like when cows got hit with an 8.0 for TLOU, regardless of it hitting AAA in the hype thread that title would have been treated like a flop given the hype resonating up towards it's release. That's actually something the Forza 6 review and TLOU both have in common, negatives that aren't well thought out.

Mcshea really disliked Joel, lol. To the point of going on a ran fueled with misinformation and getting called out on it, hell even other gs employee's were like wtf are you smoking?

Thank you! Someone understands.

@Antwan3K said:

@quadknight said:

@cimbom1993 said:

@quadknight: reflection ?

ice job trying to find the worst compressed Driveclub screens you can find. Anyone that's played it knows it looks spectacular lol.

Flopza...

Driveclub....

Driveclub pisses all over Flopza's last gen rain effects.

Wow, so much fail in your post.. first, you're trying to call Forza 6 a flop, yet you're comparing it to 5club?.. lol, and if that isn't enough, Forza 6 is running at 60fps while 5club is running with a "last gen" framerate of 30..

Please, stop sir.. you're embarrassing yourself..

Epic fail.

Driveclub destroys Flopza 6's lastgen rain effects no matter how much you cry. Last time I checked 60fps was not a nextgen feature, idiot. If it was the Xbone would be in lastgen since most of its best games barely achieve 30fps at 720p/810p/900p.

Blind delusional lemmings everywhere.

Yup, it flopped hard. Watching lems pretending they never hyped this flop as a AAA franchise is hilarious to say the least.

I don't care much either. I don't even buy or play Forza. But I do care about the way we have done things on this board. Rules state hype threads are used to gauge hype and (rarely) by consensus on the board. All I have done is reread this thread and found no evidence that the consensus is the game flopped, given the boards reception of the last 2 entries into this series. See metacritic is allowable in that sense, not in OFFICIAL hype threads. There was no Official hype thread. I am continuing my research because you don't wish to back up your claim.

On Ninja-Hippo's account of the meta game he writes"

• There is no such thing as 'official hype' and 'official hype poll' threads or similar are irrelevant. The extent to which a game was 'hyped' will always be debatable/open to individual interpretation.
• Seems like that is what's going on between us. Individual interpretation. I prefer the HYPE thread method because the numbers are tallied and cant be disputed. You prefer something akin guessing. All good.

My claim? I haven't argued my claim the entire time. I've just been debating you about one point this entire time. I don't care to back up my claim because I just don't care.

@Ragnarok1051: Right

Yes, claim. Did you not claim F6 flopped?

Dunno Why cows calling this A flop. It Certainly didn't flop as much as Driveclub.

I'm not even stupid enough to compare a 60FPS game to a 30FPS game, never mind one is an arcade racer and the other is a simulator.

It's like comparing apples and oranges, I would not even expect GT7 to look at good as Driveclub if the aim is 60FPS with real tracks.

I claimed the hype was AAA. I've also stated why I think the hype was AAA.

My bad, you didn't say Flop. But were you insinuating?

And again you don't know for sure what the hype for the game was. That's what you, yourself believe the consensus was. As I said I don't play the guessing game. No thread, tally or hard undisputable numbers then there is no consensus hype.

Quadknight is so delusionally cow that hes now calling Driveclub a good game. You want to talk about a FLOP then yeah talk about DC.

The *only* good thing about Driveclub is the graphics. And I guess you are totally forgetting the game was BROKEN at launch. Something cows never want to let go of when talking about MCC but now DC gets a pass somehow and is actually better than Forza 6? thats laughable.

Forza 6 is light years ahead of DriveClub. DC cars have terrible handling, the AI in Forza is better, Forza has more tracks, more models of cars, customization, better handling, better physics, more opponents in MP and is 60 fps when DC is 30 fps.

Just give the game some props already and stop hating. You can argue system wars semantics all day but the reality is Forza 6 is a good game.

And you're so delusional you can't read lol. I never mentioned anything about whether DC is a good game or not quote me saying so in this thread if you can, you filthy lying lem. I'm purely discussing its graphics next to Flopza 6. Both games are flops, I don't care but at least DC looks pretty, Flopza looks like a lastgen game in comparison, cry more.

So you're admitting it flopped? Good to know.

@quadknight said:

Flopza...

Driveclub....

Driveclub pisses all over Flopza's last gen rain effects.

The Forza video is so sexy. That driveclub is choppy and all over the place.

Blind lemming confirmed. Flopza's rain looks like GT5 on PS3 lol. It's not affected by physics at all and the rain "puddles" and trees are laughable at best.

Dont be mad at me, I didnt make driveclub 30 fps with poor driving mechanics.

I just find it hard to believe that Forza 6 had ZERO hype.

@draign said:

@quadknight said:

Flopza...

Driveclub....

Driveclub pisses all over Flopza's last gen rain effects.

The Forza video is so sexy. That driveclub is choppy and all over the place.

No it's not. If anything DC looks smoother, especially that last gif in the rain, holy shit that's gorgeous.

Not my fault Flopza is only managing to pull off a lastgen feature like rain. They only recently got it now so you can't really blame them too much for it looking like it belongs on the PS3/360.

lol you seem to be taking this way too personally. Its just a game. The game didnt flop and you're mad. It'll be okay if you admit that Xbox One has a good game. I know its hard to do though, might be time to take your ball and go home. Maybe have a glass of tittie milk to calm down.

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@draign said:

@quadknight said:

Flopza...

Driveclub....

Driveclub pisses all over Flopza's last gen rain effects.

The Forza video is so sexy. That driveclub is choppy and all over the place.

No it's not. If anything DC looks smoother, especially that last gif in the rain, holy shit that's gorgeous.

LOL! yeah right, even the cars in forzas side view mirrors are twice as smooth as drive club. I cant tell if the Drive Club driver is trying to drive or swat flies.

You're the one taking it seriously lol. Flopza 6 is a good game, probably even better than DC but to say it's not a flop is flat out lying. It's a massive flop and its graphics look anywhere close to DC, saying otherwise is being a rabid lemming. These are undeniable facts, I just find it laughable that lems like you will try everything in your power to twist this truth, even resorting to flat out lying and misquoting people lol.

@quadknight: just stop talking. trying to laugh off your personal attacks makes you look even more like a pussy.

What was that about personal attacks lol?

Crying because I called you out on your lies? LOL, cry more.

It didn't have zero hype. So in your mind having hype = what? A mandatory 9 or 10 score? That's the point of the Hype threads. To get a consensus based on Tormentos posting A; me posting AA; you Posting AAA; charizard posting A; Stevo posting A. Tally those up and the consensuse hype for the game is A or a score of 7.

Since when does hype its definitely AAA?

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@SolidTy said:

@ButDuuude said:

Holy shitola.

It's like a generational gap. I understand ones at 60fps but gdamn.

WOW! forza 6 looks like ASS.

But where is the indisputable evidence that this game flopped? There is no consensus hype of AAA annotated anywhere in SW. Are you saying your personal hype for F6 was AAA? I highly doubt that as you don't care for anything Xbox. If that's the case, then yes it is a flop for you. But without a community consensus it isn't a flop for everyone.

The only meltdown I see here is lemmings like you, blackace, NyaDC crying over this floppity flop.

"B..bu..bu...but there's no hype thread!!1" LOL

@Douevenlift_bro said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@SolidTy said:

@ButDuuude said:

Holy shitola.

It's like a generational gap. I understand ones at 60fps but gdamn.

WOW! forza 6 looks like ASS.

Not surprising lol

@quadknight: the game only flopped according to cows in this thread that basically live to call anything not on ps4 a flop.

your logic is based on the review score on this site which is lower than most and the bs meta rules of this forum which are a joke. you're really splitting hairs calling an 88 metascore a flop.

but whatever. if it'll stop the baby from throwing another tantrum, we'll just call it a floppity flop so you can go back to sleep while the grown ups play Forza 6.

Just out of curiousity, I went through the first 5 pages of this thread (after which it was more about FLOP or not) and put posters into categories. (I'll list the poster and the post #)

Those who think the GS score was too low or the hype was higher and it's a FLOP:

freadomfreak 4

tushar172787 12

Suppaman100 17

_Matt_ 22

SolidTy 24

pankar94 25

Makemefamous07 31

sailor232 34

HalcyonScarlet 44

kuu2 45

Ragnarok1051 60

CanYouDigIt 67

WitIsWisdom 71

clone01 76

Heil68 86

Dire_Weasel 110

NyaDC 112 & 173

kozzy1234 113

oflow 136

FoxbatAlpha 141

magicalclick 155

ReadingRainbow4 156

QuadKnight 163

Jaysonguy 171

WilliamRLBaker 178

tormentos 189

blackace 234

Xisiuizado 235

Draign 242

funkmaster1233 249

Those who agreed or were pleased with the score with the score:

Daious 3

jg4xchamp 6

k--m--k 26

BassMan 28

PAL360 29

MightyMuna 40

Antwan3K 66

NoirLamia777 109

LJS9502_basic 116

Wasdie 126

gago-gago 149

Vatusus 167

dino7c 243

Those who were suffering from real, genuine, physical butt-hurt from too much spicy food:

sts106mat 87

I ignored the "no hype thread - no Flop" comments as it didn't pertain to the expected or received scores or the review.

By my count, that's 30 for FLOP vs. 13 for not.

@asylumni: But now its skewed because this is done all after the score was released. That was always the point in my nine years here. You get your bets in before post time. I said numerous times in the thread I didn't see this as an AAA franchise anymore yet I am not mentioned. Some will say flop, I say not because we didn't have the hard, indisputable numbers going into review reveal. That's the way it was always done in my 9 years here.

Well, we're kind of limited here. Going back in time and creating a hype thread isn't really an option and most posts in Forza thread aren't straight foreward 9/10, 8/10, but more "this will be awesome", "this will be great" and whatnot. I think the best option would be to read the reactions and interpret things like, "This should be a 9" as a vote for 9/10. If they claim GS underscored it, then they expected a higher number and 1 more on the FLOP side. If they said, "Great Score", then it fell within their expectations and is not a FLOP. The fact is, for whatever reason, there is no hype thread, so we should just move on. The only other way to determine if it is a FLOP is general consensus, which I attempted to gather.

@asylumni: if you're going by the meta rules of the forum thats irrelevant. also, at least half the people calling flop are known Sony fanboys who would say it was a flop even if it wasnt which also kinda skews the measurement.

@quadknight said:

@Antwan3K said:

@quadknight said:

@cimbom1993 said:

@quadknight: reflection ?

ice job trying to find the worst compressed Driveclub screens you can find. Anyone that's played it knows it looks spectacular lol.

Flopza...

Driveclub....

Driveclub pisses all over Flopza's last gen rain effects.

Wow, so much fail in your post.. first, you're trying to call Forza 6 a flop, yet you're comparing it to 5club?.. lol, and if that isn't enough, Forza 6 is running at 60fps while 5club is running with a "last gen" framerate of 30..

Please, stop sir.. you're embarrassing yourself..

Epic fail.

Driveclub destroys Flopza 6's lastgen rain effects no matter how much you cry. Last time I checked 60fps was not a nextgen feature, idiot. If it was the Xbone would be in lastgen since most of its best games barely achieve 30fps at 720p/810p/900p.

@xhawk27 said:

@quadknight said:

@cimbom1993 said:

@quadknight: reflection ?

ice job trying to find the worst compressed Driveclub screens you can find. Anyone that's played it knows it looks spectacular lol.

Flopza...

Driveclub....

Driveclub pisses all over Flopza's last gen rain effects.

No it doesn't. The rain effect in Forza 6 is more realistic. Also the water physics on the road is 100% real in forza 6 and made up in driveclub.

Blind delusional lemmings everywhere.

@Heil68 said:

So the game flopped then? Good to know.

Yup, it flopped hard. Watching lems pretending they never hyped this flop as a AAA franchise is hilarious to say the least.

And last time I checked, 60fps hasn't been achieved in a next-gen PS4 racing game.. Which big-budget PS4 exclusive racing game runs at 1080p/60fps?.. Certainly not 5club.. and lol again @ bringing up 5club.. dat desperation

That only changes things if you think those Sony fanboys would not have voted AAA in a hype thread, had it existed...

@asylumni: i'm talking about in your current tabulation not the hype thread that never happened.

That's my point. There is no undisputed way of doing this. Interpreting "this should be a 9" into a vote for a 9? Maybe the poster just flat out read the review and feels it reviews like a 9. See the point is there is a written review up by this time. Actually there quite a few by the time this thread got going. Posters can read gameplayed information of the final product where as Hype is all speculation with some articles or leaked info to go on. Interpreting scores of what could have been based on information of the final product doesn't match up.

The thing is, even hype threads aren't indisputable. You have some over-hyping to cause a flop. You have others under-hyping to avoid a flop. If anything, the methodology here is better at getting honest opinions of people who don't think they're being counted and trying to game the system. But if you have a better idea, I'd love to hear it.

I know, in just saying they'd probably have clicked that AAAE button and be counted the same anyways. But even if I just ignored their statements, that'd only eliminate 5, maybe 6 votes, and not really change the results (24 to 13).

yea, it's getting pretty bad.. desperately trying to ignore SW rules in order to call a AAE a "flop".. dragging out 5club for some strange reason.. and general meltdowns as far as the eye can see..

really sad..

Can't wait to my X1 Forza edition.

@Antwan3K: Appparently you never played or heard of Project Cars, it's 1080p @ 60 fps on PS4, and looks better than Flopza. Just because the Xbone ran the game at 900p doesn't mean lems like you have to make shit up.

Jaysis, the way hoops and lies Lems have to pass through to deny that Flopza 6 is a flop is just astounding lol.

@quadknight: first it was DriveClub, now you're on project cars which is a multiplat so who cares?
Might as well throw The Crew in the mix as well.

Forza 6 has set a new bar for console racing games. At this point its not even about the game its just about PS4 not being the best at something which gets stuck in your craw.

Sony fanboys just cant admit they lost on this one. Just take your L like a man and hope GT7 doesnt suck.