Forza 6 weather/night simulation is incredible

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#151 Ten_Pints
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Yeah GT6 is a good game...

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#152 tushar172787
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@ten_pints said:

Yeah GT6 is a good game...

this^

according to cows, since driveclub has better visuals than forza.. forza has much better physics than DC

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#155 locopatho
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@jg4xchamp said:

I'll never understand this forums obsession with graphics

Really? This shits been going forever, since the bit wars days.

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#157 clyde46
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@sts106mat: always loved Forza. Found it more engaging compared to GT. I'm grabbing the Forza 6 X1 console as well. I'm a sucker for those. Thank god I'm getting paid tomorrow, I'll be grabbing FH2 and Until Dawn as well! That's if Game have them in stock.

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#158  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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@Desmonic said:

This the video that originated the gif from @freedomfreak 's post I reckon.

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Wow....Forza 6 looks like shit in that video.

Theres not an ice cubes prayer in hell that the weather/night effects in that game are better than DC.

And it looked like it was below 30fps half the time.

Thats awful.

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#159 ellos
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@sts106mat said:
@Slashkice said:
@sts106mat said:

too true, i can't understand why they want the time of day to change. most races last 5-10 minutes, who the **** notices the sun move in that amount of time?

Even in Forza Horizon the weather and day / night thing is obviously simulated, its a totally unnecessary feature in driving games and IMO doesn't add much.

In nine out 10 games where there is a day / night cycle, its done wrong. The only games where i think they get it right and I really enjoy having a day night cycle are open world games like GTA, Elder Scrolls or Fallout.

In Driveclub, the day/night cycles run faster than real time (I believe it's fully customizable as well). So you're not seeing five minutes of sun movement, you're seeing a few hours. I've done races where you'll start with sunlight and end in darkness. It's a visual effect, but one that affects your visibility during a race and thus affects your gameplay as well. Likewise with weather. It's actually pretty cool.

well yeah, like i say, it feels silly and fake. Even in the horizon games, its dumb. it happens too fast. I think F1 2015 has an evening to night transistion on the Yas Marina circuit. now, if you do the full Grand Prix, which would be close to two hours, that makes sense, but night to day in a 4 minute race is pointless and needless waste of resources.

Again it's not silly to simulate time of day changes. You can do this in shortened time conditions. Assetto Corsa does this. The different here is that a simulation game will simulate the effects of temperature change and the relationship of the grip of your tire. Extending gameplay challenge. Where arcade will do just the aesthetics. If you truly want to push your standard of real let's be honest this game gt they are all silly and fake as shit. It's not real time simulation.

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#160 tormentos
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@locopatho said:

*writes fucktarded walls of text about how good Sony's cum tastes*

*calls me biased*

Why would I be biased against a free game? It played shit and looked ugly. I deleted it after an hours play.

Now I'm buying an Xbone pretty much solely for Forza. Pity Sony haven't made a top racer since the PS2.

Well you are a lemming and last gen you were to many arguments i had with you..lol

Again like i already said,i have not problem admitting Forza is the better game but graphics talking DC walk over it.

DC is not free fool is the PSN+ version which isn't complete and no the game look incredible the fact that you claim it look ugly is a testament to how sad and pathetic some lemmings are.

That is funny what you consider top racer.? Because non of those 3 forza games have 90,which the series use to have last gen...lol

Funny thing is you are defending Forza while calling DC ugly,and you dare say i wrote about sony cum taste when you can't even admit a game is great looking pathetic...lol

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#161 locopatho
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@tormentos said:
@locopatho said:

*writes fucktarded walls of text about how good Sony's cum tastes*

*calls me biased*

Why would I be biased against a free game? It played shit and looked ugly. I deleted it after an hours play.

Now I'm buying an Xbone pretty much solely for Forza. Pity Sony haven't made a top racer since the PS2.

Well you are a lemming and last gen you were to many arguments i had with you..lol

Again like i already said,i have not problem admitting Forza is the better game but graphics talking DC walk over it.

DC is not free fool is the PSN+ version which isn't complete and no the game look incredible the fact that you claim it look ugly is a testament to how sad and pathetic some lemmings are.

That is funny what you consider top racer.? Because non of those 3 forza games have 90,which the series use to have last gen...lol

Funny thing is you are defending Forza while calling DC ugly,and you dare say i wrote about sony cum taste when you can't even admit a game is great looking pathetic...lol

*calls me a Lemming, despite me having PS4 as my system this gen and not an Xbone*

DC looks awful, deal with it. I was excited to play it (and it was free you idiot, I didn't pay a penny) but the game is bad and ugly. Need For Speed on 360 from a decade ago looks the same, and plays better. All the good screenshots are just from Photo Mode. The actual game is ass.

Btw, Forza 6 is the highest rated racer this gen, you unbelievably stupid fanboy.

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#162 jg4xchamp
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@locopatho said:
@jg4xchamp said:

I'll never understand this forums obsession with graphics

Really? This shits been going forever, since the bit wars days.

And I'll still never get how that's the thing that gets obsessed over.

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@locopatho said:

*writes fucktarded walls of text about how good Sony's cum tastes*

Way to keep it classy.

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#164 locopatho
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@jg4xchamp said:

And I'll still never get how that's the thing that gets obsessed over.

Humans like pretty things? I dunno, seems pretty straightforward, if a bit sad I guess.

@Dire_Weasel said:

Way to keep it classy.

I'm a few beers in and that idiot has been writing the same braindead Sony fanboy shit for a decade. Meh.

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#165  Edited By bforrester420
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@nyadc Just face it, man, visually Forza 6 looks like asshole soup.

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the reviewer himself said that forza's rain physics and puddles are better than driveclub and much better than FH2... once again...

simulation =/= graphics

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@sts106mat: As a Holden fan, all I can say is boo this man :P

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@sts106mat: I'm just playing, besides without any Fords in Forza there wouldn't be any cars to crash into the fences or cars to come last lol

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#174 tushar172787
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@sts106mat said:

@tushar172787: gonna try some multiplayer tonight. those aussie V8's look great. got my eye on the Pepsi Max ford falcon!

yeah enjoy man! i still havent got F6 but itried the demo.. it's fantastic! i'll get it once the i finish the storm island finale (still at tier 2, damn)

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#175 SecretPolice  Online
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A little off topic but yesterday I drove in real life the most bad ass machine ever, evah I tell you, my brothers brand new 2015 Z06 650 HP Roadster Corvette and man that sucker is wicked cool especially in track mode That sum biatch don't belong on the street lol. .

I gotta get me one of those soon. :D

For now though, it's FH2 & FM6 on the X1. :( :P

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#176 tormentos
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@locopatho said:

*calls me a Lemming, despite me having PS4 as my system this gen and not an Xbone*

DC looks awful, deal with it. I was excited to play it (and it was free you idiot, I didn't pay a penny) but the game is bad and ugly. Need For Speed on 360 from a decade ago looks the same, and plays better. All the good screenshots are just from Photo Mode. The actual game is ass.

Btw, Forza 6 is the highest rated racer this gen, you unbelievably stupid fanboy.

Having a PS4 doesn't make you a cow,i had an xbox and a 360 since day 1 and wasn't a lemming and i have a gaming PC and i am not a hermit either.

Hahahaha sure it does keep the damage control it really show you are anal about DC taking a dump in Forza graphics..lol

Hahahaha DC doesn't have CG models fool,the models you see in game are the same in photo mode,and the videos are not screens fool..lol

Like i say i don't have a problem admitting Forza is the better game it is you who have one admitting is great looking,your damage control over DC visuals is outstanding is basically the best looking racer out there.

Put into perspective, the ultra car detail preset boasts a staggering 200-300K triangles per vehicle.

Project Cars on PC on ultra each car uses from 200k to 300k triangles.

  1. A typical DRIVECLUB car is made up of 260,000 polygons.The staggeringly detailed cars you see in promo videos are the same models you drive in the game – they’re not pre-rendered CG versions.

But but but Photo mode..lol

But but but DC looks ugly...lol

@tushar172787 said:

the reviewer himself said that forza's rain physics and puddles are better than driveclub and much better than FH2... once again...

simulation =/= graphics

The puddles don't even react to the wheels..hahahahaa Stated by DF the rain has no variation is basically baked any one who claim F6 rain or puddle are better is joing is like saying it has better lighting it just doesn't is fake lighting,fake rain and no night transitions is a joke...

That we are on the 3rd Forza game on a next gen console and still Turn 10 still used baked assets,is pathetic,gameplay wise Forza is better graphics wise forza is a last gen game in 1080p,hell not even that GT6 did those 2 dynamic as well on the freaking PS3...lol

Forza really need to get into this gen and stop milking the damn series.

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@SecretPolice said:

A little off topic but yesterday I drove in real life the most bad ass machine ever, evah I tell you, my brothers brand new 2015 Z06 650 HP Roadster Corvette and man that sucker is wicked cool especially in track mode That sum biatch don't belong on the street lol. .

I gotta get me one of those soon. :D

For now though, it's FH2 & FM6 on the X1. :( :P

Lucky dawgs...Youre from Mass aint you?

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#178 SecretPolice  Online
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@draign said:
@SecretPolice said:

A little off topic but yesterday I drove in real life the most bad ass machine ever, evah I tell you, my brothers brand new 2015 Z06 650 HP Roadster Corvette and man that sucker is wicked cool especially in track mode That sum biatch don't belong on the street lol. .

I gotta get me one of those soon. :D

For now though, it's FH2 & FM6 on the X1. :( :P

Lucky dawgs...Youre from Mass aint you?

Well you did say Dawgs so I'll tell you, I'm the home of the original Dawg Pound. :P

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#179 Ant_17
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@i_p_daily said:

@sts106mat: As a Holden fan, all I can say is boo this man :P

One word: Maloo!

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#180 Dire_Weasel
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@locopatho said:

Humans like pretty things? I dunno, seems pretty straightforward, if a bit sad I guess.

I'm a few beers in and that idiot has been writing the same braindead Sony fanboy shit for a decade. Meh.

Ok, I ... can't disagree with that.

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#181 oflow
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@ermacness: please. I base my experience on actually playing Driveclub. The game is bad. It tries to be both a sim and an arcade racer and is stuck in terrible zone between the two. I guess if you don't actually really like racing games and only care about graphics you think Driveclub is good. But seriously it's pretty terrible you can't even drift in Driveclub.

They should have just made it a full on arcade racer I'd give it so props.

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#182  Edited By Chutebox
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@oflow said:

@ermacness: please. I base my experience on actually playing Driveclub. The game is bad. It tries to be both a sim and an arcade racer and is stuck in terrible zone between the two. I guess if you don't actually really like racing games and only care about graphics you think Driveclub is good. But seriously it's pretty terrible you can't even drift in Driveclub.

They should have just made it a full on arcade racer I'd give it so props.

what? You say you've played DC?

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#183 ermacness
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@oflow:

Funny, so have I and I disagree with some ( if not most) of your points (and in some cases, I highly disagree). I think it does a wonderful job of blending the 2 together. Most reviews aks agree. The major complaint comes from the condition of the game main feature "multiplayer" at launch. It was also lacking a bit in content, but not greatly. The last thing I saw reviews complain about this game was visuals and the gameplay.

I'm nowhere near a great (or even good) driver and even I was easily able to drift the cars not to mention that the game actually had "DRIFT CHALLENGES" for one to compete in against a friend or anyone. We must've been playing 2 separate games.

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#184  Edited By oflow
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@Chutebox: yes. they have a facsimile of what is supposed to be drifting but in reality its a joke.

The problem with DriveClub its like 70-percent arcade and 30-percent sim, and the physics and controls in the game are bad. Yeah it has a 'drift' mode but the actual act of drifting has nothing to do with how a car actually drives. In Driveclub, the cars are far too sticky in high speed corners and the oversteering actually works the opposite of how it does when you are driving a real car. In short the game is terrible. Like I said they should have just made it 100-percent arcade and I would actually give it some props, but comparing DriveClub to Forza 6 is laughable. Forza 6 isnt 100-percent sim either its more like 70 sim 30 arcade, but its damn sure better than DC by miles and miles.

Things wrong with DC (not counting the network problems at launch which flopped the game)

1. game has a limited number of cars (75 versus Forza 6's 460) and no American or Japanese cars. This is a major fail in itself.

2. Wonky handling; cars are way too sticky in high speed corners (to be fair supercars in Forza 6 arent sticky enough imo)

3. If you drive off the track in DC in 3 seconds it resets you

4. No rewind

5. No customization

6. AI is terrible

7. No real tracks

8. Damage is only cosmetic

9. weather effects are cosmetic

10. Because it has no customization, the game doesnt really differentiate between things like front and rear wheel drive

11. 30 fps

Cows really are reaching even trying to put DriveClub in the same league as Forza 6. Its a BS smoke and mirrors tactic by cows in this forum even mentioning DC when you talk about Forza. DC is a huge flop and comparing a flop to a good game is doing the good game a disservice, trying to drag it down to the flop's level.

And that gif that cows keep posting is cherry picking at its finest. The Forza camera is on far follow to purposefully try and make it look bad.

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#186 scatteh316
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Drive club has a great lighting engine and weather system, apart form that the rest of it meh.

I can literally circle the repeated vegetation and low resolution normal maps.

And that 'smeared in vaseline' look it has takes away any sharpness 1080p gives it and makes it looks muddy and hard to enjoy.

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#187 EG101
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Night time races look damn near Real. Game is Amazing. Wish you guys would stop being fanboys for a day and give Forza 6 a try. The Demo build did not do the final game Justice.

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#188  Edited By clyde46
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@sts106mat said:
@i_p_daily said:

@sts106mat: As a Holden fan, all I can say is boo this man :P

haha, sorry i just like the look of it (mainly cause i love pepsi max).

I have owned several vauxhall (what you guys call holden) cars (about 4 actually) but never owned a single ford.

lol Vaxuhall.

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@tormentos said:

The puddles don't even react to the wheels..hahahahaa Stated by DF the rain has no variation is basically baked any one who claim F6 rain or puddle are better is joing is like saying it has better lighting it just doesn't is fake lighting,fake rain and no night transitions is a joke...

That we are on the 3rd Forza game on a next gen console and still Turn 10 still used baked assets,is pathetic,gameplay wise Forza is better graphics wise forza is a last gen game in 1080p,hell not even that GT6 did those 2 dynamic as well on the freaking PS3...lol

Forza really need to get into this gen and stop milking the damn series.

Yes, darn that simulation game for putting a focus on physics and you know, actual simulation and gameplay! What's your opinion on the driving model?

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#190 Ant_17
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Well , just got the F6 Bone so i will see for myself if this is good.

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@oflow said:

4. No rewind

9. weather effects are cosmetic

10. Because it has no customization, the game doesnt really differentiate between things like front and rear wheel drive

I strongly disagree with this one. The decision to put rewind in a racing game (and put it on an easy-to-reach bumper button) really breaks the flow of the game. It's also a bad crutch when you start playing multiplayer, where the feature is removed for obvious reasons. I know it's optional, but I wish there was a way to turn it off.

Weather isn't cosmetic, it absolutely affects car handling.

Front-wheel drive, rear-wheel drive and four-wheel drive cars all handle completely differently in Driveclub, as they do in pretty much even the most arcade-style racing games.

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#192 oflow
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@Dire_Weasel: DriveClub has no tuning was kind of my point. another reason the drifting is terrible in it.

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#193 Dire_Weasel
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@oflow said:

@Dire_Weasel: DriveClub has no tuning was kind of my point. another reason the drifting is terrible in it.

There's no tuning in Driveclub, just as there was no tuning in the PGR series, and both have fun, though exaggerated, drifting mechanics.

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#194 tdkmillsy
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Its not bad enough idiots comparing Driveclub at 30fps to Forza 6 at 60fps.

You are now using a 30fps YouTube video to compare the two and are complaining that from the video Forza looks less than 30fps.

Forza 6 is more simulation and the over effects of rain, night/day and tires is far more real than Driveclub, Drive club is arcade and at times looks better, the rain looks better.

Do you not realise how stupid you sound.

Driveclub would look worse at 60fps, just like Forza 6 would look better at 30fps. YOU CANNOT COMPARE THE TWO.

When the PS4 has a 60fps 1080p racing simulation game then you can compare.

This thead gets more silly by the minute.

I have played thee Forza 6 demo and overall its a much better complete package, but so it should bee its been going long enough.

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#195 misterpmedia
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@princessgomez92 said:

Lol.

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#196  Edited By Moistcarrot
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The fact that has an actual impact on gameplay aisde from just looking nice is awesome.

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#197 tushar172787
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@misterpmedia said:
@princessgomez92 said:

Lol.

reading comprehension fail from cows once again..lol

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#198 misterpmedia
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@tushar172787 said:
@misterpmedia said:
@princessgomez92 said:

Lol.

reading comprehension fail from cows once again..lol

?

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"incredible"

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Aww yea!