Free Radical admits that the PS3 has more power than ANY console that's out

They never directly stated that PS3 has more power than 360. In fact, NO unbiased developer has said that the PS3 is more powerful than the 360, because we all know the 360 is more powerful.

/Thread.

HyperMetaDragon

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POWER WARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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the Cows go on & on about how more powerful the PS3 is, how the console will show its top graphics sometime in the future, how the good games will materialise later this year or next year etc etc

lets add a dose of realism to this- so far Xbox360 has the better lineup of games & so far has the better graphics- now the Ps3 if it does indeed turn out to be more powerful- it wont be by much- like i said before- the original xbox destroyed the PS2 in the graphics department from day 1- now the PS3 is supposed to be 2x more powerful than X360(we know that it isnt- but Sony will tell u different) & its simply not showing anything more advanced than what the X360 can do. in the future sometime when the developers finally manage to crack the cell- then & only then will the PS3 start to pull ahead - but still it will be limited by its weaker GPU & less RAM etc so at the end of the day- while the Lemmings are talking about the present- the Cows are living in some kind of dream world hoping for the future...

CwlHeddwyn

They already said that the PS3 is difficult to develop for.  In other words, the developers that make **** looking games & ports, like Ubisoft, don't invest the time to figure out how to make the most out of the PS3's hardware.  Instead, they apply general developing crutches to the PS3, and as we can see, the results aren't satisfactory.

[QUOTE="HyperMetaDragon"]

They never directly stated that PS3 has more power than 360. In fact, NO unbiased developer has said that the PS3 is more powerful than the 360, because we all know the 360 is more powerful.

/Thread.

peacebringer

Didn't Ubisoft say that the new Splinter Cell couldn't be done on the PS3?

[QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="HyperMetaDragon"]

They never directly stated that PS3 has more power than 360. In fact, NO unbiased developer has said that the PS3 is more powerful than the 360, because we all know the 360 is more powerful.

/Thread.

PS3_3DO

Didn't Ubisoft say that the new Splinter Cell couldn't be done on the PS3?

I thought it was a widely accepted fact that PS3 had the hardware/processing power advantage. Besides, even if I didn't already think PS3 was the most powerful, since when does Free Radical have final say in such matters? They hold no more credability than any other developer, even less with me since I had never heard of them before this thread.

Edit: Ah the Timesplitters crew.... I stand by my statement. Timesplitters never really WOW'd me.

I thought it was a widely accepted fact that PS3 had the hardware/processing power advantage. Besides, even if I didn't already think PS3 was the most powerful, since when does Free Radical have final say in such matters? They hold no more credability than any other developer, even less with me since I had never heard of them before this thread.Private_Vegas

Golden Eye

Pefrect Dark

Timesplitters series... wow. 

[QUOTE="Private_Vegas"]I thought it was a widely accepted fact that PS3 had the hardware/processing power advantage. Besides, even if I didn't already think PS3 was the most powerful, since when does Free Radical have final say in such matters? They hold no more credability than any other developer, even less with me since I had never heard of them before this thread.peacebringer

Golden Eye

Pefrect Dark

Timesplitters series... wow. 

They did Golden Eye? Wow indeed. But then again I never did pay attention to the developers and publisher back in those days. I just played whatever tickled my fancy.

I still stick to my statement. Just another Developer, no more credable than the next.

Lemmings will say, "these guys don´t know what their talking about!". Has any dev stated the 360 as being more powerfull?Eddie-Vedder

exactly. 

[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="odin2019"]

[QUOTE="themyth01"] The xbox360 version will probably look better too. The xbox360 is more powerful than PS3 as it's been already proven by the games. peacebringer

At least this game no matter what system its released for will look better than Halo 3.

You don't know that, you can assume it look better than Halo 3 BETA graphics but you don't know that it will look better than Halo 3. If Halo 3 comes out looking like the E3 trailers, more than a few will have been proven wrong.

You haven't seen Halos single player yet. Logic would tell you there isn't sufficient info to make a conclusion. You can have all the logic in the world to back up your theory, but in the end it's still an assumption.

The PS3 cost more it should have better looking games, unfortunately we've been waiting to see if the PS3 can do what Sony or any Devs claim.

[QUOTE="Solid-CELL"]well what do you expect. In most cases, complexity = POWA!Pro_wrestler

Simplicity & Power is weaker than Complexity & Power.:)

FIXED 

[QUOTE="peacebringer"]

[QUOTE="Private_Vegas"]I thought it was a widely accepted fact that PS3 had the hardware/processing power advantage. Besides, even if I didn't already think PS3 was the most powerful, since when does Free Radical have final say in such matters? They hold no more credability than any other developer, even less with me since I had never heard of them before this thread.Private_Vegas

Golden Eye

Pefrect Dark

Timesplitters series... wow.

They did Golden Eye? Wow indeed. But then again I never did pay attention to the developers and publisher back in those days. I just played whatever tickled my fancy.

I still stick to my statement. Just another Developer, no more credable than the next.

[QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="odin2019"]

[QUOTE="themyth01"] The xbox360 version will probably look better too. The xbox360 is more powerful than PS3 as it's been already proven by the games. demoralizer

At least this game no matter what system its released for will look better than Halo 3.

You don't know that, you can assume it look better than Halo 3 BETA graphics but you don't know that it will look better than Halo 3. If Halo 3 comes out looking like the E3 trailers, more than a few will have been proven wrong.

You haven't seen Halos single player yet. Logic would tell you there isn't sufficient info to make a conclusion. You can have all the logic in the world to back up your theory, but in the end it's still an assumption.

The PS3 cost more it should have better looking games, unfortunately we've been waiting to see if the PS3 can do what Sony or any Devs claim.

I still say one of the fps games coming out for the ps3 will be better than Halo 3 by being graphically better and offering just as much in gameplay and other stuff if not more.odin2019

Agreed, and I think that Haze is a pretty darn good candidate to end up, not only looking better, (which I think it will easily based on what we have seen of Halo 3) but might just be comparable gameplay wise, and maybe even better in certain areas as well. It will not have the Halo hype or sales of course, but that certainly does not mean that it cannot or will not end up being an overall BETTER GAME.

Hype based off of the popularity of Halo 1 & 2  is what is selling Halo 3....despite it looking to be more of the "same ole', same ole'". Even alot of pros within the industry are saying exactly this about Halo 3. Alot of them are just not very impressed with the game, as it still has the same old look, and the same old formula. Multi-player wise, that will of course be fine, but for the game as WHOLE, and in general.....it looks like it will not bring anything new to the table other than a spit shine on Halo 2 graphics, a couple of new weapons, and a bubble sheild.

Not trying to hate on Halo, as I dig the series, and plan on picking up Halo 3 myself. I just think that for the kind of BIG NAME title that Halo 3 is, that maybe it's hype just got a little too big for what Bungie will give us this time around. I think I speak for alot of people when I say that so far, it looks mediocre at best, and is falling far short of what alot of people where expecting for a release as huge as Halo 3. The hype, and expectations of the game has surpassed the reality of "what it really is" so to speak.

Back on topic, I am just going to go ahead and roll the dice and call that HAZE will smoke Halo 3 graphics wise, and story wise. And it will be at least on par, if not better than Halo 3 gameplay wise in ceratain areas. The only edge I will clearly give to Halo 3 is online play, and of course sales and popularity. Halo is, afterall, the casual shooter of choice. Regardless, I am just having fun and throwing out a prediction here, so nobody take it the wrong way, alright?;) 

[QUOTE="odin2019"]I still say one of the fps games coming out for the ps3 will be better than Halo 3 by being graphically better and offering just as much in gameplay and other stuff if not more.ironcreed

Agreed, and I think that Haze is a pretty darn good candidate to end up, not only looking better, (which I think it will easily based on what we have seen of Halo 3) but might just be comparable gameplay wise, and maybe even better in certain areas as well. It will not have the Halo hype or sales of course, but that certainly does not mean that it cannot or will not end up being an overall BETTER GAME.

Hype based off of the popularity of Halo 1 & 2 is what is selling Halo 3....despite it looking to be more of the "same ole', same ole'". Even alot of pros within the industry are saying exactly this about Halo 3. Alot of them are just not very impressed with the game, as it still has the same old look, and the same old formula. Multi-player wise, that will of course be fine, but for the game as WHOLE, and in general.....it looks like it will not bring anything new to the table other than a spit shine on Halo 2 graphics, a couple of new weapons, and a bubble sheild.

Not trying to hate on Halo, as I dig the series, and plan on picking up Halo 3 myself. I just think that for the kind of BIG NAME title that Halo 3 is, that maybe it's hype just got a little too big for what Bungie will give us this time around. I think I speak for alot of people when I say that so far, it looks mediocre at best, and is falling far short of what alot of people where expecting for a release as huge as Halo 3. The hype, and expectations of the game has surpassed the reality of "what it really is" so to speak.

Back on topic, I am just going to go ahead and roll the dice and call that HAZE will smoke Halo 3 graphics wise, and story wise. And it will be at least on par, if not better than Halo 3 gameplay wise in ceratain areas. The only edge I will clearly give to Halo 3 is online play, and of course sales and popularity. Halo is, afterall, the casual shooter of choice. Regardless, I am just having fun and throwing out a prediction here, so nobody take it the wrong way, alright?;)

[QUOTE="demoralizer"][QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="odin2019"]

[QUOTE="themyth01"] The xbox360 version will probably look better too. The xbox360 is more powerful than PS3 as it's been already proven by the games. peacebringer

At least this game no matter what system its released for will look better than Halo 3.

You don't know that, you can assume it look better than Halo 3 BETA graphics but you don't know that it will look better than Halo 3. If Halo 3 comes out looking like the E3 trailers, more than a few will have been proven wrong.

You haven't seen Halos single player yet. Logic would tell you there isn't sufficient info to make a conclusion. You can have all the logic in the world to back up your theory, but in the end it's still an assumption.

The PS3 cost more it should have better looking games, unfortunately we've been waiting to see if the PS3 can do what Sony or any Devs claim.

Who said anything about the PS3 power tapped?

When Xbox launched later then the PS2 it also costed more, but it launched with games looking better then the cheaper competition.

[QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="demoralizer"][QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="odin2019"]

[QUOTE="themyth01"] The xbox360 version will probably look better too. The xbox360 is more powerful than PS3 as it's been already proven by the games. demoralizer

At least this game no matter what system its released for will look better than Halo 3.

You don't know that, you can assume it look better than Halo 3 BETA graphics but you don't know that it will look better than Halo 3. If Halo 3 comes out looking like the E3 trailers, more than a few will have been proven wrong.

You haven't seen Halos single player yet. Logic would tell you there isn't sufficient info to make a conclusion. You can have all the logic in the world to back up your theory, but in the end it's still an assumption.

The PS3 cost more it should have better looking games, unfortunately we've been waiting to see if the PS3 can do what Sony or any Devs claim.

Who said anything about the PS3 power tapped?

When Xbox launched later then the PS2 it also costed more, but it launched with games looking better then the cheaper competition.

[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]Lemmings will say, "these guys don´t know what their talking about!". Has any dev stated the 360 as being more powerfull?Silvereign

exactly. 

Exactly seconded. They also keep forgetting that TEAM NINJA (Ninja Gaiden, DOA) stated that they could "make a 360 blow up before they could even make a PS3 start to smoke." They admitted the PS3 was indeed capable of more. Also, Factor 5 even stated that, "they could do things on the PS3 that just could not be done on the 360." I guess they lose crediblity as well for making the same sorts of claims, right?:lol: 

It's funny, if there is ANY news that is even remotely positive in favor of the PS3 over the 360 in CERTAIN AREAS....it seems as if it is instantly discredited and bashed into tiny little pieces as if it were nothing but fanboy rubbish being spread about by "cows" who hype "uncredible sources", despite the fact that it is the PROS with in the industry that are making the positive claims to begin with, lol.

I thought it was a widely accepted fact that PS3 had the hardware/processing power advantage. Besides, even if I didn't already think PS3 was the most powerful, since when does Free Radical have final say in such matters? They hold no more credability than any other developer, even less with me since I had never heard of them before this thread.

Edit: Ah the Timesplitters crew.... I stand by my statement. Timesplitters never really WOW'd me.

Private_Vegas

Same here, I mean its a decent FPS but I can think of other shooters that I enjoyed more, Doom 3, Quake 4, UT2004, Half Life 2 and Metroid Prime just to name a few. I played the original TS game and found it much more interesting then Future Perfect was. Still though, Free Radical does have a good track record of solid FPS's, having worked on Goldeneye: 007 and Perfect Dark for the N64, which were imo the two single greatest FPS's for consoles at the time and would still be solid games were they to get overhauls with the graphics and controls to feel a bit more current. The gameplay and the exciting multiplayer is what made those two games great, and I would really like to see both of them re-released on the Wii with new motion controls and improved all around, however the odds of that happening are slim.

i cannot wait for this game to come out it looks interesting as hell. 4 player co op online! it has now become on my wanted list of games that i want this year. ninja gaiden sigma, lair, heavenly sword, gta iv, assassin's creed, eight days, uncharted, ratchet and clank and possibly killzone 2 and metal gear solid 4. oh man its a great time to be a ps3 gamer!!

we get the best of both worlds. the best games on the most powerful next generation platform!

[QUOTE="demoralizer"][QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="demoralizer"][QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="odin2019"]

[QUOTE="themyth01"] The xbox360 version will probably look better too. The xbox360 is more powerful than PS3 as it's been already proven by the games. peacebringer

At least this game no matter what system its released for will look better than Halo 3.

You don't know that, you can assume it look better than Halo 3 BETA graphics but you don't know that it will look better than Halo 3. If Halo 3 comes out looking like the E3 trailers, more than a few will have been proven wrong.

You haven't seen Halos single player yet. Logic would tell you there isn't sufficient info to make a conclusion. You can have all the logic in the world to back up your theory, but in the end it's still an assumption.

The PS3 cost more it should have better looking games, unfortunately we've been waiting to see if the PS3 can do what Sony or any Devs claim.

Who said anything about the PS3 power tapped?

When Xbox launched later then the PS2 it also costed more, but it launched with games looking better then the cheaper competition.

I'm sorry I disagree about Xbox needing its Second gen titles to prove it was stronger.

This is amazing. Who would have ever thought, that something that costed $200 more would be more powerful? Dang, I thought it would be much worse.

Cost=Power.

This thread shows a complete failure at reasonable thinking. 

  OMG, I went to work and this thread STILL is alive. The cows are now so desperate that ANY dev saying anything positive is the only source of the industry.

 Face it, if Sony told everybody the Sixaxis could clean your back in the showm cows would be in here trying to claim ownage...

[QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="demoralizer"][QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="demoralizer"][QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="odin2019"]

[QUOTE="themyth01"] The xbox360 version will probably look better too. The xbox360 is more powerful than PS3 as it's been already proven by the games. demoralizer

At least this game no matter what system its released for will look better than Halo 3.

You don't know that, you can assume it look better than Halo 3 BETA graphics but you don't know that it will look better than Halo 3. If Halo 3 comes out looking like the E3 trailers, more than a few will have been proven wrong.

You haven't seen Halos single player yet. Logic would tell you there isn't sufficient info to make a conclusion. You can have all the logic in the world to back up your theory, but in the end it's still an assumption.

The PS3 cost more it should have better looking games, unfortunately we've been waiting to see if the PS3 can do what Sony or any Devs claim.

Who said anything about the PS3 power tapped?

When Xbox launched later then the PS2 it also costed more, but it launched with games looking better then the cheaper competition.

I'm sorry I dissaagre about Xbox needing its Second gen titles to prove it was stronger.

OMG, I went to work and this thread STILL is alive. The cows are now so desperate that ANY dev saying anything positive is the only source of the industry.

Face it, if Sony told everybody the Sixaxis could clean your back in the showm cows would be in here trying to claim ownage...

DXGreat1_HGL

you know that lemmings would do the same if a dev said the same thing but about the 360. actually, they even bring up old debunked devs opinions and major nelson's bs... truth is, as devs are figuring out how to take advantage of the PS3's hardware characteristics, more and more of them are telling that it's the best console. it's been some time since a third-party dev said that the 360 is superior than the PS3. but the contrary isn't valid.

Thsi is the developer who called Halo one of the crappiest games ever made. they lost some cred right there.htekemerald

[QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

OMG, I went to work and this thread STILL is alive. The cows are now so desperate that ANY dev saying anything positive is the only source of the industry.

Face it, if Sony told everybody the Sixaxis could clean your back in the showm cows would be in here trying to claim ownage...

SambaLele

you know that lemmings would do the same if a dev said the same thing but about the 360. actually, they even bring up old debunked devs opinions and major nelson's bs... truth is, as devs are figuring out how to take advantage of the PS3's hardware characteristics, more and more of them are telling that it's the best console. it's been some time since a third-party dev said that the 360 is superior than the PS3. but the contrary isn't valid.

  Life on the Planet Bovine, A milky sky, plenty of grass to graze in and the knowledge that EVERY positive thing said about PS3 abd aby begative thing said is an MS conspiracy. Please, please please Sony send us more money and we'll tell the world the next firmware ubdate will allow the PS3 to become a time machine....

[QUOTE="demoralizer"][QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="demoralizer"][QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="demoralizer"][QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="odin2019"]

[QUOTE="themyth01"] The xbox360 version will probably look better too. The xbox360 is more powerful than PS3 as it's been already proven by the games. peacebringer

At least this game no matter what system its released for will look better than Halo 3.

You don't know that, you can assume it look better than Halo 3 BETA graphics but you don't know that it will look better than Halo 3. If Halo 3 comes out looking like the E3 trailers, more than a few will have been proven wrong.

You haven't seen Halos single player yet. Logic would tell you there isn't sufficient info to make a conclusion. You can have all the logic in the world to back up your theory, but in the end it's still an assumption.

The PS3 cost more it should have better looking games, unfortunately we've been waiting to see if the PS3 can do what Sony or any Devs claim.

Who said anything about the PS3 power tapped?

When Xbox launched later then the PS2 it also costed more, but it launched with games looking better then the cheaper competition.

I'm sorry I dissaagre about Xbox needing its Second gen titles to prove it was stronger.

I disagree with everything and can't admit nothing. Halo 1 looked great and blew everthing PS2 had out of the water.

OMG, I went to work and this thread STILL is alive. The cows are now so desperate that ANY dev saying anything positive is the only source of the industry.

Face it, if Sony told everybody the Sixaxis could clean your back in the showm cows would be in here trying to claim ownage...

DXGreat1_HGL

i cannot wait for this game to come out it looks interesting as hell. 4 player co op online! it has now become on my wanted list of games that i want this year. ninja gaiden sigma, lair, heavenly sword, gta iv, assassin's creed, eight days, uncharted, ratchet and clank and possibly killzone 2 and metal gear solid 4. oh man its a great time to be a ps3 gamer!!

we get the best of both worlds. the best games on the most powerful next generation platform!

InfamousC

Well the best games or the most powerful platform has yet to proven. The only thing the PS3 proven is it's the most expensive console.

It's still great to see the PS3 get some more games though.

[QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

OMG, I went to work and this thread STILL is alive. The cows are now so desperate that ANY dev saying anything positive is the only source of the industry.

Face it, if Sony told everybody the Sixaxis could clean your back in the showm cows would be in here trying to claim ownage...

SambaLele

you know that lemmings would do the same if a dev said the same thing but about the 360. actually, they even bring up old debunked devs opinions and major nelson's bs... truth is, as devs are figuring out how to take advantage of the PS3's hardware characteristics, more and more of them are telling that it's the best console. it's been some time since a third-party dev said that the 360 is superior than the PS3. but the contrary isn't valid.

As people have brought up countless times, it's not really about the power, it's about what you do with it. Someone used God of War II as an example; how about Resident Evil 4 for the GC? Neither of these games was for the technically superior Xbox, yet both of them look and play absolutely amazingly, and compare to the best the Xbox has to offer. It's generally understood that the PS3 has more power in general than the 360 (the 360 beats it in a few areas, but the margin of difference is greater in the areas in which the PS3 comes out on top), so this shouldn't really be news or "ownage" to anyone. I doubt that even by the end of this generation, there will be enough difference between the PS3 and 360 to matter, as long as devs keep coming up with quality games for both.

[QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"][QUOTE="SambaLele"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

OMG, I went to work and this thread STILL is alive. The cows are now so desperate that ANY dev saying anything positive is the only source of the industry.

Face it, if Sony told everybody the Sixaxis could clean your back in the showm cows would be in here trying to claim ownage...

SambaLele

you know that lemmings would do the same if a dev said the same thing but about the 360. actually, they even bring up old debunked devs opinions and major nelson's bs... truth is, as devs are figuring out how to take advantage of the PS3's hardware characteristics, more and more of them are telling that it's the best console. it's been some time since a third-party dev said that the 360 is superior than the PS3. but the contrary isn't valid.

Life on the Planet Bovine, A milky sky, plenty of grass to graze in and the knowledge that EVERY positive thing said about PS3 abd aby begative thing said is an MS conspiracy. Please, please please Sony send us more money and we'll tell the world the next firmware ubdate will allow the PS3 to become a time machine....

nice try.

use your brain on your next post.

EDIT: also, why don't you present some argumentation? you only invented some type of pseudo-aphorism, a fake principle, and applied to me? 

 Ooh, now you have to start flaming, the cows final desperate attempt after losing an argument.

[QUOTE="SambaLele"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

OMG, I went to work and this thread STILL is alive. The cows are now so desperate that ANY dev saying anything positive is the only source of the industry.

Face it, if Sony told everybody the Sixaxis could clean your back in the showm cows would be in here trying to claim ownage...

SeanBond

you know that lemmings would do the same if a dev said the same thing but about the 360. actually, they even bring up old debunked devs opinions and major nelson's bs... truth is, as devs are figuring out how to take advantage of the PS3's hardware characteristics, more and more of them are telling that it's the best console. it's been some time since a third-party dev said that the 360 is superior than the PS3. but the contrary isn't valid.

As people have brought up countless times, it's not really about the power, it's about what you do with it. Someone used God of War II as an example; how about Resident Evil 4 for the GC? Neither of these games was for the technically superior Xbox, yet both of them look and play absolutely amazingly, and compare to the best the Xbox has to offer. It's generally understood that the PS3 has more power in general than the 360 (the 360 beats it in a few areas, but the margin of difference is greater in the areas in which the PS3 comes out on top), so this shouldn't really be news or "ownage" to anyone. I doubt that even by the end of this generation, there will be enough difference between the PS3 and 360 to matter, as long as devs keep coming up with quality games for both.

i agree with you. the power is a bonus, and it doesn't matter which is the stronger console, only which has the best games (for one's taste i mean) i weren't trying to own anyone, or to claim anything throught my post. if you read it carefully you'll see i'm only showing that guy that what he's saying has no necessity of even exist. he didn't contribute with anything here. i only said that, like lemmings, cows tend to rely on these types of threads to claim ownage... it's system wars... not that i think it's good. on the contrary, i don't.

[QUOTE="SambaLele"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"][QUOTE="SambaLele"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

OMG, I went to work and this thread STILL is alive. The cows are now so desperate that ANY dev saying anything positive is the only source of the industry.

Face it, if Sony told everybody the Sixaxis could clean your back in the showm cows would be in here trying to claim ownage...

DXGreat1_HGL

you know that lemmings would do the same if a dev said the same thing but about the 360. actually, they even bring up old debunked devs opinions and major nelson's bs... truth is, as devs are figuring out how to take advantage of the PS3's hardware characteristics, more and more of them are telling that it's the best console. it's been some time since a third-party dev said that the 360 is superior than the PS3. but the contrary isn't valid.

Life on the Planet Bovine, A milky sky, plenty of grass to graze in and the knowledge that EVERY positive thing said about PS3 abd aby begative thing said is an MS conspiracy. Please, please please Sony send us more money and we'll tell the world the next firmware ubdate will allow the PS3 to become a time machine....

nice try.

use your brain on your next post.

EDIT: also, why don't you present some argumentation? you only invented some type of pseudo-aphorism, a fake principle, and applied to me?

Ooh, now you have to start flaming, the cows final desperate attempt after losing an argument.

ok, so show me where i lost. ;)

probably you won't write anything inteligent. like you did yet again.

[QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="demoralizer"][QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="demoralizer"][QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="demoralizer"][QUOTE="peacebringer"][QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="odin2019"]

[QUOTE="themyth01"] The xbox360 version will probably look better too. The xbox360 is more powerful than PS3 as it's been already proven by the games. demoralizer

At least this game no matter what system its released for will look better than Halo 3.

You don't know that, you can assume it look better than Halo 3 BETA graphics but you don't know that it will look better than Halo 3. If Halo 3 comes out looking like the E3 trailers, more than a few will have been proven wrong.

You haven't seen Halos single player yet. Logic would tell you there isn't sufficient info to make a conclusion. You can have all the logic in the world to back up your theory, but in the end it's still an assumption.

The PS3 cost more it should have better looking games, unfortunately we've been waiting to see if the PS3 can do what Sony or any Devs claim.

Who said anything about the PS3 power tapped?

When Xbox launched later then the PS2 it also costed more, but it launched with games looking better then the cheaper competition.

I'm sorry I dissaagre about Xbox needing its Second gen titles to prove it was stronger.

I disagree with everything and can't admit nothing. Halo 1 looked great and blew everthing PS2 had out of the water.

[QUOTE="subrosian"]

I'm tired of seeing this - no, really, enough.

It's stupid when Xbox 360 fans say "look at this quote" - the quote will say something about "MGS4 won't be watered down" - "zomg, it must be coming to the Xbox 360" - wait just a minute, he didn't say "MGS4 is coming to the Xbox 360" - that's not a confirmation.

Then, last year, in 2006, *every* possible quoe abou the Xbox 360 was taken out of context to imply there was going to be a price cut in Summer 2006, then Fall 2006, then Spring 2007, etc... a price cut that never came, because... wait for it... a bunch of quotes were taken out of context.


Did this developer say "the PS3 is more powerful than the Xbox 360"? No - what he said is a generalized statement coming from last generation into this generation - 360 developers have said similar things - it all comes down to them saying "hey, HD hardware is powerful, and challenging to work on"

Gah... the stupidity... "pwn" people with something useful - show some screenshots of MGS4 against Mario Galaxy and go "yeah, y'know what? this is awesome, you are not" - show me a developer interview saying that Killzone 2 will have better gameplay than Halo 3... I mean, something, anything.


Quibbling over "this developer says the PS3 is more powerful, sorta, kinda, okay well if you read into this *just* the right way" - is ridiculous, there are so much better things to fight over. Here, I'll get you started - your console sells under 100,000 units a month in the US, several major developers have switched exclusive games to multiplatform status, MGS4 has not been confirmed PS3 exclusive, and if PS3 sales do not pick up in the next three months, several studios are going to completely cancel their 2008 projects for the PS3.

There... much better stuff to worry about - idiotic quibbles over "he said she said" that completely ignore the big picture (gears of war looks better than *anything* out on the PS3 right now, despite fanboys claiming Motorstorm was supposed to "blow it out of the water")

And I'm not just razing on you, I'd like to see a PS3 with a games library that doesn' resemble a pile of owl pellets, I really would, but the "delay away" strategy is making it so there's nothing for me to do once I have this $600 piece of hardware - I want to want a PS3, but all I see are mirrors and smoke when it comes to a *game release* - and 50,000 threads about "hardware potential"

LuvGaming

[QUOTE="SeanBond"][QUOTE="SambaLele"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

OMG, I went to work and this thread STILL is alive. The cows are now so desperate that ANY dev saying anything positive is the only source of the industry.

Face it, if Sony told everybody the Sixaxis could clean your back in the showm cows would be in here trying to claim ownage...

SambaLele

you know that lemmings would do the same if a dev said the same thing but about the 360. actually, they even bring up old debunked devs opinions and major nelson's bs... truth is, as devs are figuring out how to take advantage of the PS3's hardware characteristics, more and more of them are telling that it's the best console. it's been some time since a third-party dev said that the 360 is superior than the PS3. but the contrary isn't valid.

As people have brought up countless times, it's not really about the power, it's about what you do with it. Someone used God of War II as an example; how about Resident Evil 4 for the GC? Neither of these games was for the technically superior Xbox, yet both of them look and play absolutely amazingly, and compare to the best the Xbox has to offer. It's generally understood that the PS3 has more power in general than the 360 (the 360 beats it in a few areas, but the margin of difference is greater in the areas in which the PS3 comes out on top), so this shouldn't really be news or "ownage" to anyone. I doubt that even by the end of this generation, there will be enough difference between the PS3 and 360 to matter, as long as devs keep coming up with quality games for both.

i agree with you. the power is a bonus, and it doesn't matter which is the stronger console, only wich has the best games (for one's taste i mean) i weren't trying to own anyone, or to claim anything throught my post. if you read it carefully you'll see i'm only showing that guy that what he's saying has no necessity of even exist. he didn't contribute with anything here. i only said that, like lemmings, cows tend to rely on these types of threads to claim ownage... it's system wars... not that i think it's good. on the contrary, i don't.

Yeah, I was actually just writing a general response to all the posts written in that vein, and I happened to quote yours. See? Every 10,000 on system wars, two people agree on something! ;)

[QUOTE="SambaLele"][QUOTE="SeanBond"][QUOTE="SambaLele"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

OMG, I went to work and this thread STILL is alive. The cows are now so desperate that ANY dev saying anything positive is the only source of the industry.

Face it, if Sony told everybody the Sixaxis could clean your back in the showm cows would be in here trying to claim ownage...

SeanBond

you know that lemmings would do the same if a dev said the same thing but about the 360. actually, they even bring up old debunked devs opinions and major nelson's bs... truth is, as devs are figuring out how to take advantage of the PS3's hardware characteristics, more and more of them are telling that it's the best console. it's been some time since a third-party dev said that the 360 is superior than the PS3. but the contrary isn't valid.

As people have brought up countless times, it's not really about the power, it's about what you do with it. Someone used God of War II as an example; how about Resident Evil 4 for the GC? Neither of these games was for the technically superior Xbox, yet both of them look and play absolutely amazingly, and compare to the best the Xbox has to offer. It's generally understood that the PS3 has more power in general than the 360 (the 360 beats it in a few areas, but the margin of difference is greater in the areas in which the PS3 comes out on top), so this shouldn't really be news or "ownage" to anyone. I doubt that even by the end of this generation, there will be enough difference between the PS3 and 360 to matter, as long as devs keep coming up with quality games for both.

i agree with you. the power is a bonus, and it doesn't matter which is the stronger console, only wich has the best games (for one's taste i mean) i weren't trying to own anyone, or to claim anything throught my post. if you read it carefully you'll see i'm only showing that guy that what he's saying has no necessity of even exist. he didn't contribute with anything here. i only said that, like lemmings, cows tend to rely on these types of threads to claim ownage... it's system wars... not that i think it's good. on the contrary, i don't.

Yeah, I was actually just writing a general response to all the posts written in that vein, and I happened to quote yours. See? Every 10,000 on system wars, two people agree on something! ;)

:D

glad to see that there's someone in SW open to civilized conversation. 

[QUOTE="SeanBond"][QUOTE="SambaLele"][QUOTE="SeanBond"][QUOTE="SambaLele"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

OMG, I went to work and this thread STILL is alive. The cows are now so desperate that ANY dev saying anything positive is the only source of the industry.

Face it, if Sony told everybody the Sixaxis could clean your back in the showm cows would be in here trying to claim ownage...

SambaLele

you know that lemmings would do the same if a dev said the same thing but about the 360. actually, they even bring up old debunked devs opinions and major nelson's bs... truth is, as devs are figuring out how to take advantage of the PS3's hardware characteristics, more and more of them are telling that it's the best console. it's been some time since a third-party dev said that the 360 is superior than the PS3. but the contrary isn't valid.

As people have brought up countless times, it's not really about the power, it's about what you do with it. Someone used God of War II as an example; how about Resident Evil 4 for the GC? Neither of these games was for the technically superior Xbox, yet both of them look and play absolutely amazingly, and compare to the best the Xbox has to offer. It's generally understood that the PS3 has more power in general than the 360 (the 360 beats it in a few areas, but the margin of difference is greater in the areas in which the PS3 comes out on top), so this shouldn't really be news or "ownage" to anyone. I doubt that even by the end of this generation, there will be enough difference between the PS3 and 360 to matter, as long as devs keep coming up with quality games for both.

i agree with you. the power is a bonus, and it doesn't matter which is the stronger console, only wich has the best games (for one's taste i mean) i weren't trying to own anyone, or to claim anything throught my post. if you read it carefully you'll see i'm only showing that guy that what he's saying has no necessity of even exist. he didn't contribute with anything here. i only said that, like lemmings, cows tend to rely on these types of threads to claim ownage... it's system wars... not that i think it's good. on the contrary, i don't.

Yeah, I was actually just writing a general response to all the posts written in that vein, and I happened to quote yours. See? Every 10,000 on system wars, two people agree on something! ;)

:D

glad to see that there's someone in SW open to civilized conversation. 

 In that case to you, I formally retract my statements...

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_viewer/frame_lead.php?pid=472132&img=5

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_viewer/frame_lead.php?pid=258285&img=110

If you have eyes then you can hardly say thats blowing it out the water. even though both pics look worse than actual gameplay foottage sit there and scroll and you'll notice both games are similar except yes Halo looks slighty betetr and the fields are huge while TS is all corridors. But is a PS2 Launch title(wich is weak) vs a Xbox launch title(wich was stronger) If you call that a huge differance then i guess PS3 games look better than 360 games.Most those halo pics are not gameplay Foottage so scroll to the Gameplay footage and you'll see they look slighty betetr than the TS gameplay footage but as i said the envirments were much bigger in halo

[QUOTE="SambaLele"][QUOTE="SeanBond"][QUOTE="SambaLele"][QUOTE="SeanBond"][QUOTE="SambaLele"][QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

OMG, I went to work and this thread STILL is alive. The cows are now so desperate that ANY dev saying anything positive is the only source of the industry.

Face it, if Sony told everybody the Sixaxis could clean your back in the showm cows would be in here trying to claim ownage...

DXGreat1_HGL

you know that lemmings would do the same if a dev said the same thing but about the 360. actually, they even bring up old debunked devs opinions and major nelson's bs... truth is, as devs are figuring out how to take advantage of the PS3's hardware characteristics, more and more of them are telling that it's the best console. it's been some time since a third-party dev said that the 360 is superior than the PS3. but the contrary isn't valid.

As people have brought up countless times, it's not really about the power, it's about what you do with it. Someone used God of War II as an example; how about Resident Evil 4 for the GC? Neither of these games was for the technically superior Xbox, yet both of them look and play absolutely amazingly, and compare to the best the Xbox has to offer. It's generally understood that the PS3 has more power in general than the 360 (the 360 beats it in a few areas, but the margin of difference is greater in the areas in which the PS3 comes out on top), so this shouldn't really be news or "ownage" to anyone. I doubt that even by the end of this generation, there will be enough difference between the PS3 and 360 to matter, as long as devs keep coming up with quality games for both.

i agree with you. the power is a bonus, and it doesn't matter which is the stronger console, only wich has the best games (for one's taste i mean) i weren't trying to own anyone, or to claim anything throught my post. if you read it carefully you'll see i'm only showing that guy that what he's saying has no necessity of even exist. he didn't contribute with anything here. i only said that, like lemmings, cows tend to rely on these types of threads to claim ownage... it's system wars... not that i think it's good. on the contrary, i don't.

Yeah, I was actually just writing a general response to all the posts written in that vein, and I happened to quote yours. See? Every 10,000 on system wars, two people agree on something! ;)

:D

glad to see that there's someone in SW open to civilized conversation.

In that case to you, I formally retract my statements...

ok. sorry about the hostile responses.

cool, one more civilized person in SW, i think we got a new record here.

EDIT: in fact, your sig is partially truth, since most cows really face things that way. but it's just not fair blaming only cows for doing that... all fanboys (sheep, lemmings, cows and hermits) do that. like communists defend their political stance. freaky isn't it? 

They're not the only devs who have said that.

I think it's probably true that PS3 is the most powerful console but I don't think devs will completely unlock that power for at least another year.

Having said that, 1 year from now both PS3 and 360 will probably be getting ready to start their boom in sales, so it could become a major benefit to the PS3 eventually.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_viewer/frame_lead.php?pid=472132&img=5

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_viewer/frame_lead.php?pid=258285&img=110

If you have eyes then you can hardly say thats blowing it out the water. even though both pics look worse than the games in motion

peacebringer

It doesn't matter what I see.

How can you say Haze beta look so much better then Halo3, but not see a difference in Halo 1 and Time spliters? The power gap between the PS3 and 360 are smaller then the PS2 and Xbox.

[QUOTE="demoralizer"][QUOTE="peacebringer"]

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_viewer/frame_lead.php?pid=472132&img=5

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/image_viewer/frame_lead.php?pid=258285&img=110

If you have eyes then you can hardly say thats blowing it out the water. even though both pics look worse than the games in motion

peacebringer

It doesn't matter what I see.

How can you say Haze beta look so much better then Halo3, but not see a difference in Halo 1 and Time spliters? The power gap between the PS3 and 360 are smaller then the PS2 and Xbox.

HALO 3 WILL BE THE BEST LOOKING GAME EVER  EVEN 20 YEARS FROM NOW PEOPLE WILL WONDER HOW THEY MADE THIS GAME LOOK SO GOOD ON A 360, IT BLOWS EVERY GAME OUT THE WATER EVEN GEARS OF WAR , HALO 3 FOREVER WOOT WOOT ,

god i don't care dude. i'm not gonna keep throwing stuff at you if your gonna completely ignore it

/you are the weakest link goodbye 

I did look at you pics. I am no Halo fan and I care less what you say about it.

To debate what I or you perceive is waste of time, sorry if I ignored some of what you said. I hear ya man, just I'm stating facts about the power gap differences. I can't sleep I'm at work.