GameSpot Bayonetta Review 9.0 (360) 8.0 (PS3) - Keep it here or face suspension

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#251 aaronmullan
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meaning both versions are very high quality games.IronBass
What some people here aren't exactly getting.
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#252 Chiddaling
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Awesome score. Maybe I will have to get this game.
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#253 Idream2010
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="Idream2010"]

why?

carlisledavid79

I'm actually also going to ask you why as well there carlisledavid76. This is one of those rare cases where graphical bugs and horrible preformance takes away fro the overall quality of the game. I don't know why you would willingly buy the version that is going to feel a lot less finished and less of a game.

90% of multiplats a few graphical hicups here and there aren't anything to worry about, but I've seen the differences myself. The game in areas looks completely different than the 360 version and the framerate is just horrible. For an action title this is really going to detract from the experiance.

First thing, Carlisledavid76?, aggh im not 34 :P Second yeah I do get your point and I cannot deny the 360 version is the better version. But Gamespot still rate this as great and im still going to try it out for myself on the PS3 first. Now it may come down to the point that it does for me detract from the experience,and in that case I will return it for the 360 version instead.

if thats the case, rent the pS3 version and see if you can tolerate it.

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#254 cosmostein77
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So in a nutshell, I guess this means I get the 360 version over the PS3 one..

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#255 web966
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Nice, Im gonna get the 360 version when its cheaper.
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#256 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="IronBass"] meaning both versions are very high quality games.aaronmullan
What some people here aren't exactly getting.

Yet you bashed the 360 version of Dragon Age and praised the PS3 version.

Hmm, why the change in tune? Oh yes, it's been the 360 version is superior here and by a whole point, not a half of one.

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#257 dsmccracken
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Unfortunately, this probably means I won't be picking this game up since I only own a PS3...
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#258 Idream2010
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i have been a reader for awhile, and I do know that if this was the other way around you would see this thread about doubled and alot more fireworks. I give Lemmings credit for that.

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#260 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="aaronmullan"] What some people here aren't exactly getting.aaronmullan

Yet you bashed the 360 version of Dragon Age and praised the PS3 version.

Hmm, why the change in tune? Oh yes, it's been the 360 version is superior here and by a whole point, not a half of one.

Nope. I said that DA:O on the 360 was the inferior version and it was so inferior it needed a score difference. Same thing here, son. No change in tune here, boyo.

I don't remember you sticking up for the 8.5 Dragon Age, so why do it with the 8.0 Bayonetta? Hmm...

Nevermind, I know. ;)

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#261 Idream2010
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="aaronmullan"] What some people here aren't exactly getting.aaronmullan

Yet you bashed the 360 version of Dragon Age and praised the PS3 version.

Hmm, why the change in tune? Oh yes, it's been the 360 version is superior here and by a whole point, not a half of one.

Nope. I said that DA:O on the 360 was the inferior version and it was so inferior it needed a score difference. Same thing here, son. No change in tune here, boyo.

well this more though, the other only had a .5 difference. this a Whole point.

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#262 aaronmullan
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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"] Nope. I said that DA:O on the 360 was the inferior version and it was so inferior it needed a score difference. Same thing here, son. No change in tune here, boyo.BioShockOwnz

I don't remember you sticking up for the 8.5 Dragon Age, so why do it with the 8.0 Bayonetta? Hmm...

Nevermind, I know. ;)

Thanks for completely ignoring my post and putting words into my mouth. Smooth there, BSO :P

Also

Nevermind, I know. ;)

BioShockOwnz

Teh conspiracy :o

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#263 aaronmullan
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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Yet you bashed the 360 version of Dragon Age and praised the PS3 version.

Hmm, why the change in tune? Oh yes, it's been the 360 version is superior here and by a whole point, not a half of one.

Idream2010

Nope. I said that DA:O on the 360 was the inferior version and it was so inferior it needed a score difference. Same thing here, son. No change in tune here, boyo.

well this more though, the other only had a .5 difference. this a Whole point.

Indeed. But it still got AA. AA = Great the last time I checked :P
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#264 Idream2010
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[QUOTE="Idream2010"]

[QUOTE="aaronmullan"] Nope. I said that DA:O on the 360 was the inferior version and it was so inferior it needed a score difference. Same thing here, son. No change in tune here, boyo.aaronmullan

well this more though, the other only had a .5 difference. this a Whole point.

Indeed. But it still got AA. AA = Great the last time I checked :P

well not as great indeed as dragon age

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#265 aaronmullan
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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"][QUOTE="Idream2010"]

well this more though, the other only had a .5 difference. this a Whole point.

Idream2010

Indeed. But it still got AA. AA = Great the last time I checked :P

well not as great indeed as dragon age

Two different genres, so you can't really compare.
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#266 Idream2010
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[QUOTE="Idream2010"]

[QUOTE="aaronmullan"] Indeed. But it still got AA. AA = Great the last time I checked :Paaronmullan

well not as great indeed as dragon age

Two different genres, so you can't really compare.

I can see now why Bioshockownz made his post about you now.

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#267 CanYouDiglt
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i have been a reader for awhile, and I do know that if this was the other way around you would see this thread about doubled and alot more fireworks. I give Lemmings credit for that.

Idream2010

I did get a little curious about that and Dragons Age review. It is interesting to see the difference and these games are not that far apart. That review got up to 51 page long.

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[QUOTE="Idream2010"]

i have been a reader for awhile, and I do know that if this was the other way around you would see this thread about doubled and alot more fireworks. I give Lemmings credit for that.

CanYouDiglt

I did get a little curious about that and Dragons Age review. It is interesting to see the difference and these games are not that far apart. That review got up to 51 page long.

yep it is what it is. Lems deserve credit here.

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#269 dsmccracken
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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]

[QUOTE="Idream2010"]

i have been a reader for awhile, and I do know that if this was the other way around you would see this thread about doubled and alot more fireworks. I give Lemmings credit for that.

I did get a little curious about that and Dragons Age review. It is interesting to see the difference and these games are not that far apart. That review got up to 51 page long.

Cows are more rabid, simple as that. I know, someone is going to tsk tsk that and say that all fanboys are equally idiotic.... disagree with me if you want, but I've been around for long enough to see what I've seen, and in my opinion some as a group ARE INDEED worse than others.
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#270 dommeus
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Wait, did Gamespot change the PS3 review from 8.5 to 8.0 after publishing?! Lol, professional.

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#271 gago-gago
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Didn't Sony state that they were going to help to try to fix the problems? I guess it wasn't enough and I guess the next time Sony says they're going to help out on other multiplats with problems, it might not mean much.

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#273 Giancar
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[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]

[QUOTE="Idream2010"]

i have been a reader for awhile, and I do know that if this was the other way around you would see this thread about doubled and alot more fireworks. I give Lemmings credit for that.

I did get a little curious about that and Dragons Age review. It is interesting to see the difference and these games are not that far apart. That review got up to 51 page long.

Cows are more rabid, simple as that. I know, someone is going to tsk tsk that and say that all fanboys are equally idiotic.... disagree with me if you want, but I've been around for long enough to see what I've seen, and in my opinion some as a group ARE INDEED worse than others.

nah, all ae EXACTLY the same, I am a veteran too when lemmings were majority it was exactly the same, now cows are majority over here cause they have the ammo...
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#274 Giancar
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Wait, did Gamespot change the PS3 review from 8.5 to 8.0 after publishing?! Lol, professional.

dommeus
everyone makes mistakes in life buddy, it would be less "professional" if they didn't change the score even if they think it should be changed
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#275 aaronmullan
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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"][QUOTE="Idream2010"]

well not as great indeed as dragon age

Idream2010

Two different genres, so you can't really compare.

I can see now why Bioshockownz made his post about you now.

Because you can't exactly compare a hack n slash with an RPG?
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#276 Giancar
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Didn't Sony state that they were going to help to try to fix the problems? I guess it wasn't enough and I guess the next time Sony says they're going to help out on other multiplats with problems, it might not mean much.

gago-gago
it was only a rumor, if Sony would helped the game, we could see the same quality in both games most likely, knowing how strong Sony 1st party devs are
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#277 Idream2010
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[QUOTE="Idream2010"]

[QUOTE="aaronmullan"] Two different genres, so you can't really compare.aaronmullan

I can see now why Bioshockownz made his post about you now.

Because you can't exactly compare a hack n slash with an RPG?

you are right, of course.

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#278 dommeus
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[QUOTE="dommeus"]

Wait, did Gamespot change the PS3 review from 8.5 to 8.0 after publishing?! Lol, professional.

Giancar
everyone makes mistakes in life buddy, it would be less "professional" if they didn't change the score even if they think it should be changed

Considering they get paid to write these reviews and choose these ratings for the benefit of their readers (the traffic which funds them somewhat through advertising), yes I think it is unprofessional.
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#279 Giancar
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[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="dommeus"]

Wait, did Gamespot change the PS3 review from 8.5 to 8.0 after publishing?! Lol, professional.

dommeus
everyone makes mistakes in life buddy, it would be less "professional" if they didn't change the score even if they think it should be changed

Considering they get paid to write these reviews and choose these ratings for the benefit of their readers (the traffic which funds them somewhat through advertising), yes I think it is unprofessional.

do you know how many professionals in different work areas have made mistakes in their jobs? I'll say more than 95%, it's not the end of the world anyways
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#280 dommeus
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[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="dommeus"][QUOTE="Giancar"] everyone makes mistakes in life buddy, it would be less "professional" if they didn't change the score even if they think it should be changed

Considering they get paid to write these reviews and choose these ratings for the benefit of their readers (the traffic which funds them somewhat through advertising), yes I think it is unprofessional.

do you know how many professionals in different work areas have made mistakes in their jobs? I'll say more than 95%, it's not the end of the world anyways

Well, no.
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#281 skinny_man_69
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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="aaronmullan"]

I don't remember you sticking up for the 8.5 Dragon Age, so why do it with the 8.0 Bayonetta? Hmm...

Nevermind, I know. ;)

Thanks for completely ignoring my post and putting words into my mouth. Smooth there, BSO :P

Also

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Nevermind, I know. ;)

Teh conspiracy :o

"Slowly pulls down tin-foil hat over head"
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#282 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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Who here hasn't had a typo in something they were writing up? It happens.

It was far more important for GS to correct the mistake, to make sure the posting matched the reviewers intended score as soon as possible, then to let it slide and just say, "well, its not like anybody would know". Covering up the mistake by pretending it wasn't, would be the far worse breach of professional ethics, than simply making a mistake. Mistakes happen in any professional environement and things are kept professional by correcting them as soon as possible, and to make sure the report says what it was originally intended to.

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#283 Idream2010
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again completely impressed with Lemmings, maybe 2010 will be a softer kinder gentler year.

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#284 Bread_or_Decide
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I'm still playing the games I got for christmas. No fair to release this gem so early in the year haha. 360 version it is. Good I haven't played anything on it since ODST.
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I got dragon age for christmas and I have yet to open it. I liked the Bay demo (aside for the terrible slowdowns) but I doubt Ill be getting any new games for awhile. Time I finished the ones I own
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I think everyone saw this coming, 360 seems to really be the version to get if you have both consoles and no preference in controllers.

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As someone who regularly rails on cows, I do have to say that lemmings are really not inherently more "mature". They are just not obsessively brand loyal in the utterly bizzare super-extreme way that cows are (sheep were once like this, but they've mellowed out). Cows are just in their brand loyalty meltdown phase right now (again, sheep most liely were once like this). It has nothing to do with them as people. It has more to do with their situation. The fall from dominance was brutal and it alienates them to see the tables turned, causing massive damage (points to anybody who can figure out where that phrase comes from) to the collective fanboy pysche and thus they seem to act more "extreme". Lemmings might very well act the same way in the future if they develop the same amount of brand loyalty over time.

E3 2006 Sony Press Conference...ahhh good times, good times.

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Bayonetta this is your time! "Dances"
The best action game(for now) of this gen is upon us.:Djg4xchamp
I expect it to stay that way for a while.
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the game looks great, plays hreat (PS3 demo speaking) but it's a button smashing game, i dun get it the ppl who are prasing the game combos....etc while you can button smash all ur enemies till the end of the demo.

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[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]I did get a little curious about that and Dragons Age review. It is interesting to see the difference and these games are not that far apart. That review got up to 51 page long.

Giancar

Cows are more rabid, simple as that. I know, someone is going to tsk tsk that and say that all fanboys are equally idiotic.... disagree with me if you want, but I've been around for long enough to see what I've seen, and in my opinion some as a group ARE INDEED worse than others.

nah, all ae EXACTLY the same, I am a veteran too when lemmings were majority it was exactly the same, now cows are majority over here cause they have the ammo...

I don't think there was ever a time where the lems were the majority. Cows just went dark for a little while.

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#291 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]

[QUOTE="Idream2010"]

i have been a reader for awhile, and I do know that if this was the other way around you would see this thread about doubled and alot more fireworks. I give Lemmings credit for that.

Idream2010

I did get a little curious about that and Dragons Age review. It is interesting to see the difference and these games are not that far apart. That review got up to 51 page long.

yep it is what it is. Lems deserve credit here.

Wait are you saying lems didint overreact to the score of DA:O? If so then where were you.

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#292 tikki25x
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the game looks great, plays hreat (PS3 demo speaking) but it's a button smashing game, i dun get it the ppl who are prasing the game combos....etc while you can button smash all ur enemies till the end of the demo.

2mrw

where you playing it on easy or something? button mashing gets you stomped in Bayonetta. and of course people are praising the combat, its some of the best ever. unless youre just not into these types of games. its my favorite genre by far and i think Bayonetta is the first game that beat out Ninja Gaiden 1 and 2s combat and thats saying a lot.

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#293 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="ChartTopper93"]

lemmings are typically more mature than cows. you might see some cows come in whining but i doubt there will be an all out offensive on cows by lemmings. except the extreme ones.

mythrol

:lol: Lemmings and mature. oh god. Penalty Flag for false advertisement

From what I remember of what happened when DA:O came out and the cow response to getting .5 higher due to better graphics, while the 360 version had the better frame rate and performance . . .YES lemmings are far more mature it seems. Cows acted as if DA:O on the 360 was UNPLAYABLE. So far reading through this thread I've seen little / no PS3 bashing. If you go back actions as a basis for opinion, then it's clear lemmings don't stoop to the level of cows.

Yea guess you missed all those threads when the famitsu review came out about the bad ps3 version. Its pretty tame now since the bash fest has already happend.

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#294 ZoomZoom2490
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if this game got aaa then gow3 should easily get aaaa.

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if this game got aaa then gow3 should easily get aaaa.

ZoomZoom2490
That doesn't sound very likely.
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#296 Animal-Mother
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my questiton is What happened to the good old days of, "hey everyone isn't this game awesome lets all enjoy it" Instead we get "MAN VERISON PWNS YOURS LAWLS SAUCE"

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if this game got aaa then gow3 should easily get aaaa.

ZoomZoom2490

That's not really how it works.

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#298 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator  Online
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Wait are you saying lems didint overreact to the score of DA:O? If so then where were you.

finalfantasy94

Lemmings weren't the only ones who were confused at the absurd reasoning of Kevin-V for justifying the differences in the scores.

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#299 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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if this game got aaa then gow3 should easily get aaaa.

ZoomZoom2490

If GOW3 got 9.5, where Beyonetta got 9.0 on 360, that would be sufficiently higher a score. Why does it "have" to get AAAA now? :|

But then I would expect this from the same guy who believes GT5 "will" score 10, just because FM3 scored 9.5 :roll:

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#300 musicalmac  Moderator
Member since 2006 • 25101 Posts

If GOW3 got 9.5, where Beyonetta got 9.0 on 360, that would be sufficiently higher a score. Why does it "have" to get AAAA now? :|

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What would really be fun, is if Dante's Inferno outscored God of War 3 on both platforms. Wouldn't that just be the best? :lol: