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#101 svetzenlether
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Does anyone find that Gamespot has been overly harsh on average games (giving them awful scores), yet overly appreciative to great games (giving them 10's)?BioShockOwnz

I'll second that one...in fact I'll go so far as to say that Gamespot has the WORST stable of reviewers of all the major gaming sites.

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#102 munu9
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Wow, just when gamespot reviews seemed to be getting really credible and justified... oh wait :|
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#103 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

The game is pretty crappy the only worthwhile thing is the explosions.

Bioshock why did you say this would be better then Battlefeild Bad company :?

BZSIN

And it is to me. I absolutely despise BF: BC. It's BF for casuals.

But you want hardcore games to die anyway

That was then, this is now! Excuse my bipolar-ness.

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#104 InsaneBasura
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

The game is pretty crappy the only worthwhile thing is the explosions.

Bioshock why did you say this would be better then Battlefeild Bad company :?

BioShockOwnz

And it is to me. I absolutely despise BF: BC. It's BF for casuals.

Wouldn't Mercs 2 be more simpleminded and shallow? Reviews indicate it's all about blowing **** up. Does the destruction even serve a purpose apart from visual shenanigans?

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#105 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Does anyone find that Gamespot has been overly harsh on average games (giving them awful scores), yet overly appreciative to great games (giving them 10's)?0rin


I think MGS4 deserved the 10 it got fully. But thats just my own opinion, and I won't go into further detail about that. But overall, outside of MGS4, I agree with you. However, keep in mind, this is Aaron Thomas we are talking about. I hope he doesn't review LBP.

Note: I hereby denounce any and all of my credibility for this reviewer.

I hope LBP doesn't flop. I'm sick of getting beaten up for liking Gamespot flops.

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#106 VendettaRed07
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jeeze... gamespots really starting to get ridonculous
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#107 mongo_14
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how could pandemic have screwed this up. mercs 1 was one of my favorite games. mercs 2 was delayed from back in 2007, did the game get worse in all that time. it almost looks like ps2 game, and really has the bugs metioned in the review. its like they spent a years worth of dev time making hijack animations. I still love this game but its like having a freind lose a leg. He's just not fun any more and it makes you sad.
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#108 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

The game is pretty crappy the only worthwhile thing is the explosions.

Bioshock why did you say this would be better then Battlefeild Bad company :?

InsaneBasura

And it is to me. I absolutely despise BF: BC. It's BF for casuals.

Wouldn't Mercs 2 be more simpleminded and shallow? Reviews indicate it's all about blowing **** up. Does the destruction even serve a purpose apart from visual shenanigans?

THat's how Mercs is. Mercs 2 is the same game, but has more destruction. In BF:BC, it was just dumbed down and simplified.

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#109 W1NGMAN-
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Fine with me, thought it looked like crap anyways.
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#110 leejohnson7
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

The game is pretty crappy the only worthwhile thing is the explosions.

Bioshock why did you say this would be better then Battlefeild Bad company :?

InsaneBasura

And it is to me. I absolutely despise BF: BC. It's BF for casuals.

Wouldn't Mercs 2 be more simpleminded and shallow? Reviews indicate it's all about blowing **** up. Does the destruction even serve a purpose apart from visual shenanigans?

The first one had the deck of 52 which was insane fun. In this one I am not so sure. Even back then however there were problems with the game (the shotgun had no fire sound for **** sake)

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#111 Solid_Snake1221
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Wow :? Aaron Thomas should really just stick to sports games. Mercs 2 is easily a 7.5-8.0 game, and Ratchet: TOD should have been reviewed much higher as well. The GS staff should really make sure the reviewer is actually competent enough to accurately judge the game.

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#112 blushield
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What's up with GameSpot lately? First they give Too Human a 5.5 (it's no 5.5, a 7.5, sure, 5.5? Reaaaaaaaallly?)

subrosian

:lol: still at it I see

You're the king of viral marketing, a crazed king that can't accept he's wrong

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#113 rocket9434
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Ouch is all I can say. More like a 7.
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#114 leejohnson7
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[QUOTE="subrosian"]

What's up with GameSpot lately? First they give Too Human a 5.5 (it's no 5.5, a 7.5, sure, 5.5? Reaaaaaaaallly?)

blushield

:lol: still at it I see

You're the king of viral marketing, a crazed king that can't accept he's wrong

It's his opinion *shrugs* I mean I didn't like TH either but still, I guess some people will.

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#115 svetzenlether
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Its OKAY guys its just kevin van-...er WHAT!!?? WAIT A MINUTE!! aaron thomas? ReaperV7

Dude, Aaron Thomas is worse than VanOrd.

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#116 Im_single
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How does Mercs 2 stack up to the original? Same game with beefed up visuals in venezuela? Or is it a fundamentally broken version of the first game?
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#117 BioShockOwnz
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Has anyone seen the video review responses? Gamespot users aren't happy with some of the current reviewers here on the site. I think Gamespot needs a shake up.
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#118 ReaperV7
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Wow :? Aaron Thomas should really just stick to sports games. Mercs 2 is easily a 7.5-8.0 game, and Ratchet: TOD should have been reviewed much higher as well. The GS staff should really make sure the reviewer is actually competent enough to accurately judge the game.

Solid_Snake1221

I agree.....to many games deserved a higher score...... at least they should add a .5 to each of their current scores.......like ratchet and clank quest for booty, infinite undiscovery, spore and this game...enough is enough..

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#119 Droopeh
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Are you joking me? How bad is this game really? Merc 1 was awesome!
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#120 W1NGMAN-
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[QUOTE="BZSIN"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

The game is pretty crappy the only worthwhile thing is the explosions.

Bioshock why did you say this would be better then Battlefeild Bad company :?

BioShockOwnz

And it is to me. I absolutely despise BF: BC. It's BF for casuals.

But you want hardcore games to die anyway

That was then, this is now! Excuse my bipolar-ness.

You really posted this...

"Great post, but the actual thought behind it makes me chuckle. You have a well thought out opinion, which I completely disagree with. I'm all about games going mainstream and letting the cash roll in. It's time to kill off hardcore gaming all together."

Sorry but that deserves a big WTF!?!?

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#122 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="Solid_Snake1221"]

Wow :? Aaron Thomas should really just stick to sports games. Mercs 2 is easily a 7.5-8.0 game, and Ratchet: TOD should have been reviewed much higher as well. The GS staff should really make sure the reviewer is actually competent enough to accurately judge the game.

ReaperV7

I agree.....to many games that deserved a higher score......at least by adding a .5 to each of their current scores.......like ratchet and clank quest for booty, infinite undiscovery, spore and this game...enough is enough..

Amen. I used to be fanboyish and laugh when exclusives flopped, but anymore, I'm a gamer, and I hate to see games getting criminally and royally messed over.

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#123 carljohnson3456
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Has anyone seen the video review responses? Gamespot users aren't happy with some of the current reviewers here on the site. I think Gamespot needs a shake up.BioShockOwnz

But if they do that, then people will complain when games like MGS4 get a 10.

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#124 leejohnson7
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Has anyone seen the video review responses? Gamespot users aren't happy with some of the current reviewers here on the site. I think Gamespot needs a shake up.carljohnson3456

But if they do that, then people will complain when games like MGS4 get a 10.

Perhaps the bar has been raised.

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#125 Mordred19
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GS makes it sound really really bad in that review. They put that list of bugs and glitches in such an objective tone. Is that rundown truly accurate?
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#126 BioShockOwnz
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GS makes it sound really really bad in that review. They put that list of bugs and glitches in such an objective tone. Is that rundown truly accurate?Mordred19

The game has bugs, but not any more than most games out there, like GTA IV, Saints Row, or other open world titles.

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#127 Dante2710
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lol i knew this game would blow......i guess i was right, i wasnt interested in the first place though
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#128 BioShockOwnz
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lol i knew this game would blow......i guess i was right, i wasnt interested in the first place thoughDante2710

Majority is sitting at A, so incorrect.

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#129 Mercenary848
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Wow the day I allow a review to affect my mood, will truly be a sad one.
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#130 Solid_Snake1221
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[QUOTE="Mordred19"]GS makes it sound really really bad in that review. They put that list of bugs and glitches in such an objective tone. Is that rundown truly accurate?BioShockOwnz

The game has bugs, but not any more than most games out there, like GTA IV, Saints Row, or other open world titles.

I think there more glitches and bugs than those games, but certainly not enough to detract from the fun of the game.

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#131 ironcreed
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I decided to hold off on this one, but I cannot see it being that bad, based on the other reviews I have read anyway. However, I have heard that it is quite a broken and buggy game, and the review seems to hit on all those points. But, is it really 5.0 bad? That is like Beowulf bad, and somehow, I am kind of doubting that it is on a movie license game level of bad. But, then I have not played it, and really have no desire to anymore. As I have spent FAR too much on games that have turned out under delivering here the past year.
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#132 killab2oo5
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On another note...out of over 1000 user reviews the 360 verison has a 8.5 and the PS3 verison a 8.6. o.o
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#133 LinKuei_warrior
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[QUOTE="LinKuei_warrior"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="kool-aids"]Ha, people actually hyped this crap. BioShockOwnz

Ha, and how is it crap? Solid A rating across the board, bud.

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/932882.asp

saints row is AA there...yet you still bash it.

I don't like it, that's why. But even I wouldn't give SR a 5. I gave it a 7.5 on Gamespot, because even though I don't like it, it's still a solid game, much like Mercs 2.

ok that i understand.:)

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#134 XturnalS
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wow, didnt see this coming I was expecting solid A to low AA, but wow 5.0? Thats worse then TH!!!

I just bought this game and was about to give it a go I loved the first and am sure I will like this one.

But man a 5!!! wow, but then again it is Aaron "Identity Crisis-Variety is a bad thing" Thomas so I will take this one with a grain of salt.

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#135 BioShockOwnz
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On another note...out of over 1000 user reviews the 360 verison has a 8.5 and the PS3 verison a 8.6. o.okillab2oo5

Reviewers don't connect with gamers like they used to.

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#137 hopesfall2own
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It's weird how Mercs 2 has steered away from what was good about Mercs 1. I've played a little on my bros ps3 (360 in limbo ;p), it just doesn't feel right. Mercs 1 was dark, gritty, pretty intense battles. This one feels pretty cheap with the RPG houses, strength of tank armor, and the bullets are extremely weak compared to mercs1.

The faction mood is way too sensitive, mercs 1 you could mess up and kill an ally by mistake and earn back reputation by killing enemies in the allies prescence, where is that? Where is making money for blowing enemy vehicles up? Why do I have to keep hunting for airstrikes or supplies I want? Do I even need money anymore? Where are the killer weapons? Why do i have to press a button to pick up ammo..? Why'd they get so cheesy with the story and voice acting -- mercs 1 was about being a badass.

While a 5 is harsh, and I haven't played the full game yet, there are some serious design flaws and some key things left out that make this feel not up to par as the first one. Man, mercs 1 was BY FAR my favorite single player game on the xbox, this game just doesn't have the magic that mercs 1 did. I'm still going to get it, play it, and probably enjoy it..but not near as much as I did with mercs 1. F'ing EA..
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#138 Saturos3091
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Okay, well I liked Viking. Still renting it. :P
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#139 Millennium_King
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Wow.

I have to say I agree with IGN's 7.9 moreso than the 5. The game is fun and that is all that matters

Ninten007

I feel the same way about Too Human. It's so much fun. IGN was correct with the 7.8. I don't know what's going on with Gamespot, but lately they have been full of fail.

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#140 W1NGMAN-
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[QUOTE="ReaperV7"][QUOTE="Solid_Snake1221"]

Wow :? Aaron Thomas should really just stick to sports games. Mercs 2 is easily a 7.5-8.0 game, and Ratchet: TOD should have been reviewed much higher as well. The GS staff should really make sure the reviewer is actually competent enough to accurately judge the game.

BioShockOwnz

I agree.....to many games that deserved a higher score......at least by adding a .5 to each of their current scores.......like ratchet and clank quest for booty, infinite undiscovery, spore and this game...enough is enough..

Amen. I used to be fanboyish and laugh when PS3 exclusives flopped, but anymore, I'm a gamer, and I hate to see games getting criminally and royally messed over.

Fixed)

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#141 xgamer40
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I got the game on PC earlier today, haven't ran into a single major bug yet, the graphics look nice on all High, although there is some pop in but it doesnt bug me, the gameplay is pretty much mercs 1 but a little more tweaked and refined, the explosions and destruction are amazing, I only have a couple complaints like the AI and its not THAT bad, the story isn't too great, vehicles don't handle the best, and swimming is kinda just tacked on. It certainly isnt a perfect game in the slightest but a 5 is just harsh, its at least a 7, right now I'm leaning towards 8 for pure fun factor maybe higher once I get further and get cooler air strikes and a larger arsenal. Although this is coming from a guy who doesnt nitpick in the slightest and bugs and bad AI don't bother me at all... so depends on taste I guess

All in all if you liked the first, just wanna blow crap up, and have a good time, and dont mind a few minor flaws here and there (that could probably be patched in the future hopefully) then I'd say buy it, the game is at least a rent.

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#142 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="ReaperV7"][QUOTE="Solid_Snake1221"]

Wow :? Aaron Thomas should really just stick to sports games. Mercs 2 is easily a 7.5-8.0 game, and Ratchet: TOD should have been reviewed much higher as well. The GS staff should really make sure the reviewer is actually competent enough to accurately judge the game.

W1NGMAN-

I agree.....to many games that deserved a higher score......at least by adding a .5 to each of their current scores.......like ratchet and clank quest for booty, infinite undiscovery, spore and this game...enough is enough..

Amen. I used to be fanboyish and laugh when PS3 exclusives flopped, but anymore, I'm a gamer, and I hate to see games getting criminally and royally messed over.

Fixed)

Wanna tissue?

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#143 PKim7
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="ReaperV7"][QUOTE="Solid_Snake1221"]

Wow :? Aaron Thomas should really just stick to sports games. Mercs 2 is easily a 7.5-8.0 game, and Ratchet: TOD should have been reviewed much higher as well. The GS staff should really make sure the reviewer is actually competent enough to accurately judge the game.

W1NGMAN-

I agree.....to many games that deserved a higher score......at least by adding a .5 to each of their current scores.......like ratchet and clank quest for booty, infinite undiscovery, spore and this game...enough is enough..

Amen. I used to be fanboyish and laugh when PS3 exclusives flopped, but anymore, I'm a gamer, and I hate to see games getting criminally and royally messed over.

Fixed)

lol

Anyways back to the topic, its seems like a lot of people disagree with the score so is it safe to assume that its not that buggy? I want it mainly for the CO-OP.

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#144 elbow2k
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Am I the only one who actually goes to find who wrote the review BEFORE I even take anything that Gamespot has to say?

Seriously, I don't need to read the review of a guy who says "too much variety" is a bad thing in a platformer.

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#145 jethrovegas
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[QUOTE="killab2oo5"]On another note...out of over 1000 user reviews the 360 verison has a 8.5 and the PS3 verison a 8.6. o.oBioShockOwnz

Reviewers don't connect with gamers like they used to.

It's not about reviewers "connecting with gamers", it's about them giving their honest opinions.

Sales indicate that a great many gamers wouldn't know a quality game if it bit them in the ass, so why is "connecting with gamers" a good thing?

Honest, unabashed criticism. That's all we need. If this Mercs review is a step in that direction (extremely doubtful), then I say great, more power to you GameSpot.

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#146 masiisam
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That is not all that surprising..... the game is ugly..buggy..and very rough around the edges..so a 5 seems about right...

With that said..the game is a blast and I cant get enough of it..

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#147 Pariah_001
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I actually agree with the review. The gameplay, the story, the features--It's all incredibly shallow. I was profoundly disappointed.

But that score is a little too low. I'd say it's a 7.0 exactly.

I was exapecting this game to build on the progress of the first game and correct all of the things that made it so uneven, but now they've just added more flaws.

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#148 Lionheart08
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And the flops keep rolling. :?
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#149 Phenom316
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Although 5.0 is bad, the game looks great

Gamespot *sigh*

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#150 NSR34GTR
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i thought it would get better than this