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#201 Bentham
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This game looked terrible, and was delayed to the point where nobody cared about it. A 5.0 isn't very surprising.
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#202 XturnalS
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Ok, so I just got done with a 5 hour session or so and here is my analysis:

First off, bugs: yes they are present but I haven't encounted any huge ones yet, The toolbox dissapeared into the ground during wench challenge.

AI: Medicore, I just encounted two PLAV soldiers in a VZ jeep, I was disguised as a VZ soldier and once I got out they stopped shooting at me? Good huh? Wrong, they started to attack the jeep while it remained immobile and unoccupied. Until one of them threw a grenade and blow up the jeep along with themselves.

Those are my two main gripes so far, almost forgot the cutscenes are laughably bad. The intro cutscene where you get screwed over was one of the worst cutscenes I've ever seen in any video games period.

Voice-acting isn't good but its not bad just ok, Repeated lines are annoying, "One less VZ soldier" has prolly been said 500 times in my 5 hours.

But the shooting IS fun and satisfying as well as air strikes and explosives in general. The driving controls are very loose and coming from GTAIV controls they are slow and awkward.

The action and destruction are great fun tho, and right from the get-go there was stuff for me to explore, find, steal, hi-jack, etc.

All in all, Mercs 2 is a flawed but very fun game, blowing **** up as never been better, and Mercs 2 delivers in the gameplay aspect, if u liked the 1st you'll love this one. Despite the problems the pros outweigh the cons.

So far I'd give it a 7.5.

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#203 Juggernaut140
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Am I the only one who likes gamespot's reviews nowadays?

I mean, the more flops the better O-o

GiveMeSomething

What? How is it ever a good thing to see a game flop?

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#204 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="GiveMeSomething"]

Am I the only one who likes gamespot's reviews nowadays?

I mean, the more flops the better O-o

Juggernaut140

What? How is it ever a good thing to see a game flop?

Indeed.

Who the heck wants things to flop? You know how much devs put into these games, then everyone stands around them and rips them apart, all because one guy didn't like it.

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#205 GiveMeSomething
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[QUOTE="GiveMeSomething"]

Am I the only one who likes gamespot's reviews nowadays?

I mean, the more flops the better O-o

Juggernaut140

What? How is it ever a good thing to see a game flop?

Just imagine EVERY game getting a 9+ score. It'd be a boredom fest :S

I think this is what sets the difference between both good and bad games.

This is like a natural process, only the best of the best is chosen ^_^

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#206 killerfist
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[QUOTE="GiveMeSomething"]

Am I the only one who likes gamespot's reviews nowadays?

I mean, the more flops the better O-o

Juggernaut140

What? How is it ever a good thing to see a game flop?

It's never good to see a game flop. but come on, it's kinda funny:P

but to be real honest, I never cared about this game (or the first) in the first place.

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#207 deactivated-660c2894dc19c
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Oh yes! Once again I am right about a game! Lyphe2k's spidey senses never decieve him. Saw it coming a mile away. Mark my words - Dead Space, Far Cry 2, Killzone 2 and the new Silent Hill will fall into the same fate.Lyphe2k

If Far Cry 2 flops, I will shoot myself. I've waited that game for so long.

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#208 M8ingSeezun
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[QUOTE="M8ingSeezun"]

Like I said before a few days ago, this is ashame.

There's no excuse for this. The first Mercenaries was phenomenal and received a good score, 8.8 here in GS.

Link256

What the hell kind of logic is that? Just because Mercs was great, does not mean it automatically translate to Mercs 2. :|

You seem to lack some kind of understanding or logic.

Usually, games are improved upon from thier original, at least to some degree. With Mercs 2, everything was rushed & half-ss, which explains the bugs and glitches in the game. Most of us who've played the original Mercs, enjoyed it and were expecting something better with Mercs 2. There's no excuse for that, like I said. Devs should be able to improve everything that was great from the original and to some degree make it better on a current gen platform.

It's like the franchise had been severely "demoted" rather than "promoted."

Catch my drift??

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#209 wiidog
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Thats ridiculous. The games graphics suck and its a little buggy but it is sooooo much fun. A 5 is straight wrong. Opinion or not its just wrong.
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#210 Kahuna_1
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I just saw my cousin playing it and from what I saw the graphics resemble some ps2/xbox games, the animations are on/off, and the AI is braindead(very common in today's games). But a 5 out of 10 is pretty rough. Almost as bad as Conan getting a 7.5.
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#211 MojondeVACA
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Mercenaries 2's visuals are inconsistent. The Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions of the game are mostly similar, but the PS3 has some ugly aliasing problems

And there goes the lie cows made about the game being better graphically on ps3..
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#212 HarlockJC
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Mercenaries 2's visuals are inconsistent. The Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions of the game are mostly similar, but the PS3 has some ugly aliasing problems

And there goes the lie cows made about the game being better graphically on ps3..MojondeVACA

I don't think many are really looking for ownage on a 5.0 game.

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#213 killerfist
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Mercenaries 2's visuals are inconsistent. The Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions of the game are mostly similar, but the PS3 has some ugly aliasing problems

And there goes the lie cows made about the game being better graphically on ps3..MojondeVACA
cows am owned

no but seriously, I dont think anyone cares

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#214 linkin_guy109
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truthfully, it seems like gamespot is being harsher on games after giving out two 10's and two AAAE's, within months of each other, it makes sense i guess, but damn, mercs 2 looked like fun, and seriously, blowing stuff up...is always fun, no matter what
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#215 DSgamer64
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:lol:

That is all I have to say.

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#216 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Old GS?

WTF? It was this generation :?

Oblivion and GeOW would have got 9.5 when rounded to the .5 system.

Your appraisal makes no sense at all.

LOXO7

hey captain i dont work for gs, so this is just speculation, but maybe GS making a few changes with getting rid of peoples, and rating games with .5 and introducing GS Wide makes me think that the people have gotten a few words from their superiours on how to rate games now, from when they did originaly This Generation.

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Its hard to say whats going on, but one thing is fore sure, this generation has been completely messed up review standard wise.

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#217 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="Link256"][QUOTE="M8ingSeezun"]

Like I said before a few days ago, this is ashame.

There's no excuse for this. The first Mercenaries was phenomenal and received a good score, 8.8 here in GS.

M8ingSeezun

What the hell kind of logic is that? Just because Mercs was great, does not mean it automatically translate to Mercs 2. :|

You seem to lack some kind of understanding or logic.

Usually, games are improved upon from thier original, at least to some degree. With Mercs 2, everything was rushed & half-ss, which explains the bugs and glitches in the game. Most of us who've played the original Mercs, enjoyed it and were expecting something better with Mercs 2. There's no excuse for that, like I said. Devs should be able to improve everything that was great from the original and to some degree make it better on a current gen platform.

It's like the franchise had been severely "demoted" rather than "promoted."

Catch my drift??

Mercs 1 was one of my favourite console games, or games in general of last gen.

However I think the review misses the point of its sandbox nature and the freedom to go about completing missions, somthing that nearly every sandbox game lacks.... still (*COUGH* GTA IV).

Bugs and glitches aside of course.

I'll have to see for myself.

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#218 gamefan67
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hmmmm....wow that was unexpected but somehow expected in a weird way:?
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#219 iamshivy
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ha, i just got the game tonight.. ya it does feel kind of meh. but not a 5 lol. more like a 6.5 , 7 max.
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#220 iamshivy
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Are you joking me? How bad is this game really? Merc 1 was awesome!Droopeh
then you will like this one
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#221 angelkimne
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Mega-ouch !

That's probably the lowest Review so far.

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#222 TheDudeNYC
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So EA takes another franchise and kills it. Gee, a game rushed to the market that's filled with bugs.

That doesn't sound like EA at all! :roll:

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#223 MojondeVACA
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So EA takes another franchise and kills it. Gee, a game rushed to the market that's filled with bugs.

That doesn't sound like EA at all! :roll:

TheDudeNYC


EA was only the publisher :roll:,blame Pandemic for that.
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#225 nethernova
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I can't really see anyone that reviews games enjoy them as much as the players. Any game that has complex controls or just a lot of options to do is things is almost natural for us to get right away where they'd probably struggle to get through. If you think about it all the gameplay footage used in the vid reviews they don't really do much so it's easier for them to hate on a game than give it the score it deserves as a result.Strife88

So wait, you're saying that reviewers aren't players? That they probably don't even like video games and only touch them when they are forced to review them? They can't handle complex controls and are scared of too many options? You can't be serious. It makes me laugh though. Thank you, sir.

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#226 Ballroompirate
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Does anyone find that Gamespot has been overly harsh on average games (giving them awful scores), yet overly appreciative to great games (giving them 10's)?cakeisntalie
yes! i think so too

I agree also, its kinda getting annoying.

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#227 angryfodder
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What I don't get is that it sounds just like the first game....and that scored a 8.8?
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#228 RobbieH1234
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If everything he said in the review is true, then a 5 is justified. If this means that GameSpot no longer tolerates games that are buggy, have little to no story, have terrible AI and are repetitive then more power to them...

...but the double standards here are crazy. I noticed that somebody else said the review read largely like a GTA IV review. Repetitive missions? Check. Lousy AI? Check. Loads of bugs? Check. Unsatisying gunplay? Check. Large world with little to do? Check. Drive all the way to your target if you fail a mission? Check. Useless friend rewards? Check. Obvious draw-in when in a helicopter? Check. Large, undetailed draw distance? Check.

One gets a 10, the other gets a 5.

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#229 Krigon
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If everything he said in the review is true, then a 5 is justified. If this means that GameSpot no longer tolerates games that are buggy, have little to no story, have terrible AI and are repetitive then more power to them...

...but the double standards here are crazy. I noticed that somebody else said the review read largely like a GTA IV review. Repetitive missions? Check. Lousy AI? Check. Loads of bugs? Check. Unsatisying gunplay? Check. Large world with little to do? Check. Drive all the way to your target if you fail a mission? Check. Useless friend rewards? Check. Obvious draw-in when in a helicopter? Check. Large, undetailed draw distance? Check.

One gets a 10, the other gets a 5.

RobbieH1234

Agreed.

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#230 SolidTy
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If everything he said in the review is true, then a 5 is justified. If this means that GameSpot no longer tolerates games that are buggy, have little to no story, have terrible AI and are repetitive then more power to them...

...but the double standards here are crazy. I noticed that somebody else said the review read largely like a GTA IV review. Repetitive missions? Check. Lousy AI? Check. Loads of bugs? Check. Unsatisying gunplay? Check. Large world with little to do? Check. Drive all the way to your target if you fail a mission? Check. Useless friend rewards? Check. Obvious draw-in when in a helicopter? Check. Large, undetailed draw distance? Check.

One gets a 10, the other gets a 5.

RobbieH1234

Hello? Aaron Thomas ring a bell. Why do they have their SPORTS Reviewer playing these games. He is just not on the ball. Mercs may be a terrible game, but I haven't trusted Aaron since he funked up that Ratchet Future Review. He made GS looks so silly, and he's still at it.

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#231 angryfodder
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Like people have said, the big issue here is consistancy. I've always thought that the review itself is more important than the numerical value they give it (its why I read edge magazine) but still GS need to look at consistancy a little here.

5 is a perfectly fine score for a game that they thing is ok, but buggy. But other games that are ok, but buggy need to score this as well. they can't get 7.5 - 8.5.

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#232 Krigon
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Like people have said, the big issue here is consistancy. I've always thought that the review itself is more important than the numerical value they give it (its why I read edge magazine) but still GS need to look at consistancy a little here.

5 is a perfectly fine score for a game that they thing is ok, but buggy. But other games that are ok, but buggy need to score this as well. they can't get 7.5 - 8.5.

angryfodder

or a 10. :P

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#233 C_BozkurT_C
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harsh review

but i still intend on buying it

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#234 EuroMafia
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DAMN!!!!! ............ Is the game that buggy?EPaul
No, it's not. GS has just been on its period lately.
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#235 rgame1
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and the irony is that lems and cows consistently hype these games and say Wii games suck.
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#236 -DrRobotnik-
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I watched a review the other day that called this game a "perfect rental" so i think thats what ill do.
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#237 sam280992
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Xbox 360 with achievments make it the superior version.

:twisted::twisted::twisted:

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#238 beerm_basic
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hmmmm dunno what to make of this as other sites have given mercs 2 a 8 or so.

will be hiring from lovefilm anyways

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#239 CronoSquall
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and the irony is that lems and cows consistently hype these games and say Wii games suck.rgame1

All platforms have some real stinkers in their lineup, but I'd rather play Mercs 2 than Kitty Luv and Bratz Extreme. (Or Petz PuppyZ Fashion Show)

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#240 Hoobinator
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#Another game bites the flop
Another game bites the flop
And another game flops, and another game flops
Another game bites the flop
Hey, I'm gonna flop you too
Another game bites the flop#

Too many flops, so little time to bask in their floppage.:cry:

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#241 wood_duck
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Ah finally, the harsh Gamespot reviews return, thank you Aaron Thomas.
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#242 mr_mozilla
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GS used to rate most games in 7-9 range, these days they seem to use 5-10 scale. It's a nice idea, but it can result to some oddities.

Xbox 360 with achievments make it the superior version.

:twisted::twisted::twisted:

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#243 3picuri3
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yeah, GS is starting to try to look l33t with their harsh reviews. trying to earn some cred after the JG fiasco - i'm not buying it personally.

there are opinions, and there are professional opinions. the stuff i'm reading from GS lately is neither, it's manufactured vitriol to try to get people frothing. and i'm talking all sides here, it's not like just one group is getting shafted or 'biased' treatment, seems they're just trying to be edgy with everything - and it's coming off as rather lame. especially if you read the reviews and compare them to other games with higher scores.

for shame GS :P

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#244 fabz_95
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Ouch, I knew it wouldn't be amazing but I didn't think it would be that bad!
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#245 XanderZane
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Gamespot's reviews are whacked anyways. More of their scores aren't accurate compared to other reviewers. Not sure why people are so surprised about this. This is why I don't go by anything Gamespot reviews for a score. I'll view Gamerankings and see what 1UP, IGN, Game Informer and OXM gives each game. Then I'll speak to friends who have actually played the game before I decide if it's worth a purchase, rental or the garbage bin. ;)

Don't be to hostile on Gamespot. It's just their opinion and we don't have to agree with it. I know I don't.

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#246 WardCleaver02
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Xbox 360 with achievments make it the superior version.

:twisted::twisted::twisted:

sam280992

Owning both a PS3 and a 360, I would usually agree with you. However, since the 360 does not have the achievement "Made it Through 5 Minutes of Mercs 2 without Throwing your Controller at the TV because of all the Glitches and Bugs", I don't think I would talk about the 360 being better.

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#247 BioShockOwnz
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and the irony is that lems and cows consistently hype these games and say Wii games suck.rgame1

Speaking of unpolished, No More Heroes recieved a 9, and while I loved that game, it was still very unpolished, and the gameplay was repetitive as all heck.

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#248 markop2003
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i didn't think it would get that low but i didn't have high hopes for it, it all looked a bit cartoony to me and it didn't look like it could hold much substance
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#249 3picuri3
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Gamespot's reviews are whacked anyways. More of their scores aren't accurate compared to other reviewers. Not sure why people are so surprised about this. This is why I don't go by anything Gamespot reviews for a score. I'll view Gamerankings and see what 1UP, IGN, Game Informer and OXM gives each game. Then I'll speak to friends who have actually played the game before I decide if it's worth a purchase, rental or the garbage bin. ;)

Don't be to hostile on Gamespot. It's just their opinion and we don't have to agree with it. I know I don't.

XanderZane

that's part of the problem though - it is their opinion, but from an outlet like this you'd expect a professional opinion. these new harsh reviews for games on all platforms are just poorly written for the most part and also don't really line up with the scores when weighted against other titles.

there's just no consistency at GS any more, there is like 2-3 decent reviewers left and a few 35 year old bitter vitriol spewing old-school gamers.

there's a reason GS is mocked openly by other outlets ;)

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#250 shadowcat2576
Member since 2006 • 908 Posts

Another lower than expected review, more "Gamespot is evil" posts. I love the fact that so many people that have not played the game can have such a strong opinion of what the review should be. Maybe different people have different threasholds for bugs in games. And isn't AI supposed to be one of the big enhancements for this gen? So why wouldn't stupid AI be considered bad.

I keep seeing comments like "but blowing stuff up is soooo much fun, how can it be a bad games?" Sorry, but if the simple act of blowing stuff up was all that made a game fun, why don't we have a bunch of simulated grenade throwing games where we just chuck them at a barn or something?

Don't agree with GS scores, fine. Nothing says you have to use them as you personal criteria for buying a game. Think other reviews are more accurate, fine. Use those or visit those sites