GameSpot: We got CoD in our Halo! ah oh!

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#1 finalstar2007
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Yet another game tries to be similar to the King of FPS's that is Call of Duty, according to 343 the developers of the upcoming xbox360 Exclusive Halo 4 mentioned that the multiplayer in Halo 4 was influenced by Call of Duty/ to have similar aspects to CoD.

343 dev: "Halo 4's new loadout system gets compared to other FPS games, including Call of Duty. And definitely, in terms of how much effect the progression system has on your player, that's a reasonable sort of comparison," O'Connor said.

O'Connor also mentioned that he's quite a fan of games like Call of Duty: Black Ops but says that Halo 4 will be more about survival encounters rather than just winning.

You can see more right here: http://www.gamespot.com/halo-4/videos/halo-4-spartan-ops-war-games-and-loadouts-interview-6396913/?tag=Topslot;Halo4Updates;YouGotSomeCallOfDuty

but i thought Halo is original and does not follow anyone! lems?

Halo 4 will release this November 1 week before Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 so this will be really interesting on which game will do well on xbox

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Yet another game tries to be similar to the King of FPS's that is Call of Duty

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Stopped reading there.

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Black Ops 2 360 version will sell the most. Halo 4 will outsell the Black Ops 2 PS3 version. PS3 still has no games this year.
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As someone who has played a lot of Halo over the years, I find this to be a big turnoff. Still on the fence about buying though.
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#5 finalstar2007
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Black Ops 2 360 version will sell the most. Halo 4 will outsell the Black Ops 2 PS3 version. PS3 still has no games this year.JohnnyCageMK

Not at all, if you want to talk about sales the PS3 version of Black Ops 2 will outsell Halo 4 in a matter of hours, this is CoD so never underestimate the power of CoD ( MW3 already over 10mil on PS3 alone ) but i find it really funny that instead of defending ur Halo you just talk about sales.. lawl lems never change.

as for ur other silly comment, PS3 has more than 3 exclusives coming to it before the year end but hey you dont know sh*t

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I suppose if there was one thing that was eventually going to bring Halo down to Call of Duty's level so that it could be enjoyed by the unwashed, uneducated masses, it would be the developers.

Congrats, 343.

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Damn, this game looks great for a console game. Nice to see about skill based playlists, and classic playlists.
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Apparently one COD per year isn't enough for the trigger happy lems :lol:!
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And yet the only thing the Halo has "copied" from COD that actually makes Halo better is the ability to run. Adding custom loadouts does nothing to enhance the game. In fact it hurts Halo imo. The cool thing about Halo is that everyone is on the exact same playing field at the start of a match. Halo 4 would be better off if the only things you unlocked through levelling were cosmetic. With that said Halo 4 will be ten times better than COD regardless. They don't seem to have CODified the game TOO much.

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[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]Black Ops 2 360 version will sell the most. Halo 4 will outsell the Black Ops 2 PS3 version. PS3 still has no games this year.finalstar2007

Not at all, if you want to talk about sales the PS3 version of Black Ops 2 will outsell Halo 4 in a matter of hours, this is CoD so never underestimate the power of CoD ( MW3 already over 10mil on PS3 alone ) but i find it really funny that instead of defending ur Halo you just talk about sales.. lawl lems never change.

as for ur other silly comment, PS3 has more than 3 exclusives coming to it before the year end but hey you dont know sh*t

Proof MW3 sold that much on PS3? Cause last I heard MW3 were down from MW2 and Blops.

Do you mean these exclusives?

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I can hardly contain my jelly :lol:

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I'll bet 343i does a better job with those elements and creates a more critically acclaimed game.
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360 owners get to play both. Living the good life.
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Call of Duty is one of the biggest and best games ever, of course it influences other FPS games! That's like a developer of a platformer being influenced by Mario, a JRPG developer being influenced by Final Fantasy, or a fighting game developer being influenced by Street Fighter... it's like, DUH!!!
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Oh how the mighty have fallen...

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Here's the thing tho...in case u didnt notice..CoD was always similar to halo, they just changed the name of the games... aka team slayer=team deathmatch and tbh slayer sounds alot cooler :P but honestly all fps copy eachother...counterstrike feels alot like CoD to me as well, then u have SOCOM, Medal of Honor, Battlefield its all the same crap just different lengths of time and fewer gameplay modes for some titles than others :P one thing that causes CoD to kick ass...is Nazi Zombies thats about as original as it gets...unless u count infection which is pretty insane itself and existed before call of duty's infected mode (both are totally different games with similar names) :) and is alot more fun too ^_^

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360 owners get to play both. Living the good life.freedomfreak
Not really. I'm a 360 owner and the parts of both games I'd actually want to play aren't accessible to me because I refuse to pay for the rip off that is XBL Gold.

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#17 JohnnyCageMK
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Oh how the mighty have fallen...

Bigboi500
Agreed. Sony fell hard this gen.
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Wow. The 360 is totally dead on ideas.
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I'll bet 343i does a better job with those elements and creates a more critically acclaimed game.Zeviander

Doubtful. Treyarch and IW have far more experience with balancing out killstreaks and loadouts. Say what you will about CoD but these are the guys who pretty much invented these mechanics. Nobody else is better at them.

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Thread FAIL alert! CoD copied the two weapon system, most the button layout of Halo and then copied the health system of Halo 2.

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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]360 owners get to play both. Living the good life.burgeg

Not really. I'm a 360 owner and the parts of both games I'd actually want to play aren't accessible to me because I refuse to pay for the rip off that is XBL Gold.

That's your problem.
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Treyarch and IW have far more experience with balancing out killstreaks and loadouts.Master_ShakeXXX
Did... you... really just mention balance and killstreaks/loadouts? Are you high?
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#23 Cheleman
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Yet another game tries to be similar to the King of FPS's that is Call of Duty, according to 343 the developers of the upcoming xbox360 Exclusive Halo 4 mentioned that the multiplayer in Halo 4 was influenced by Call of Duty/ to have similar aspects to CoD.

343 dev: "Halo 4's new loadout system gets compared to other FPS games, including Call of Duty. And definitely, in terms of how much effect the progression system has on your player, that's a reasonable sort of comparison," O'Connor said.

O'Connor also mentioned that he's quite a fan of games like Call of Duty: Black Ops but says that Halo 4 will be more about survival encounters rather than just winning.

You can see more right here: http://www.gamespot.com/halo-4/videos/halo-4-spartan-ops-war-games-and-loadouts-interview-6396913/?tag=Topslot;Halo4Updates;YouGotSomeCallOfDuty

but i thought Halo is original and does not follow anyone! lems?

Halo 4 will release this November 1 week before Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 so this will be really interesting on which game will do well on xbox

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it's quite pathetic:lol::cool:

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Call of Duty is one of the biggest and best games ever, of course it influences other FPS games! That's like a developer of a platformer being influenced by Mario, a JRPG developer being influenced by Final Fantasy, or a fighting game developer being influenced by Street Fighter... it's like, DUH!!!locopatho

Couldnt agree more, actually in my opinion the more games being influeced by CoD the better they get, CoD is fast/action packed/fun and addictive so the more games trying to copy it/be similar to it the better.

The Beta for Halo 4 felt very smilar to CoD but not completely similar at the same time, only issue i had with it is it was very slow.. FPS's in general need to be fast but anyways actually news like this always a good thing in learning from who's leading.

im sure Halo 4 will be fun for the fans but not too sure for the hardcore fans.

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#25 DarkLink77
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Damn, this game looks great for a console game. Nice to see about skill based playlists, and classic playlists.Stevo_the_gamer
If only they would elaborate on what they mean by "classic." Do they mean Reach classic or Halo 3 classic? Or Halo 2 classic? Or a mix? Will there be armor abilities? What guns will you spawn with? Will you still have a choice at the beginning of the round and between spawns? What about the power weapons? Will they spawn on the map, or drop in? It would be nice if they would talk about that stuff as opposed to offering vague reassurances that it will be there. A "classic" playlist could mean a lot of things.
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That's pretty sad. Halo used to be the game everyone cribbed from, now it's cribbing from today's game-that-everyone cribs from.
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[QUOTE="burgeg"]

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]360 owners get to play both. Living the good life.freedomfreak

Not really. I'm a 360 owner and the parts of both games I'd actually want to play aren't accessible to me because I refuse to pay for the rip off that is XBL Gold.

That's your problem.

It's a big problem, and it's why I buy all my games on PS3 now. My problem. Microsoft caused that problem. They could fix that problem pretty easily. Take away the XBL subscription fee. Or at least add a PS Plus like service to at least make the fee worth it.

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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="burgeg"]Not really. I'm a 360 owner and the parts of both games I'd actually want to play aren't accessible to me because I refuse to pay for the rip off that is XBL Gold.

burgeg

That's your problem.

It's a big problem, and it's why I buy all my games on PS3 now. My problem. Microsoft caused that problem. They could fix that problem pretty easily. Take away the XBL subscription fee. Or at least add a PS Plus like service to at least make the fee worth it.

They have always charged for XBL. You knew that before you bought a 360. Its your own fault.
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Halo 4 will release this November 1 week before Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 so this will be really interesting on which game will do well on xboxfinalstar2007
Both cant do well? lol. Halo 4 will likely outsell the xbox version of BO 2 since its avail on more platforms. Both will sell at least 7 million on 360.
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#30 finalstar2007
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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]Treyarch and IW have far more experience with balancing out killstreaks and loadouts.Stevo_the_gamer
Did... you... really just mention balance and killstreaks/loadouts? Are you high?

Actually he's right, the ONLY broken CoD game to ever release would be MW2 and thats only one game, the games after MW2 fixed everything from MW2 plus the games got more balanced ( so far the only issue left in CoD is spawn trapping which isnt that big of a deal because you can only spawn trap in specific modes and only with a full team that know how to do it ).

if Y person cant do well in Black Ops/MW3 aka the games that came out after MW2 then this Y person must really suck.

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Treyarch and IW have far more experience with balancing out killstreaks and loadouts.Master_ShakeXXX
:hah: With my experience with MW3, I'm just going to have to disagree. Some were pants-on-head stupid, while others were extremely over-powered. And Halo 4's aren't the same either, they amount to what is essentially a power-weapon insta-spawn. Not a squadron of Banshees flying by killing everything on the map. Or orbital MAC support.
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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]Treyarch and IW have far more experience with balancing out killstreaks and loadouts.Stevo_the_gamer
Did... you... really just mention balance and killstreaks/loadouts? Are you high?

yes

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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]Treyarch and IW have far more experience with balancing out killstreaks and loadouts.finalstar2007

Did... you... really just mention balance and killstreaks/loadouts? Are you high?

Actually he's right, the ONLY broken CoD game to ever release would be MW2 and thats only one game, the games after MW2 fixed everything from MW2 plus the games got more balanced ( so far the only issue left in CoD is spawn trapping which isnt that big of a deal because you can only spawn trap in specific modes and only with a full team that know how to do it ).

if Y person cant do well in Black Ops/MW3 aka the games that came out after MW2 then this Y person must really suck.

Finalstar, I enjoy your antics but this isn't a platform for you to discuss--it is clearly beyond your capacity. Let the adults speak on this.
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]Treyarch and IW have far more experience with balancing out killstreaks and loadouts.Master_ShakeXXX

Did... you... really just mention balance and killstreaks/loadouts? Are you high?

yes

Knew it.
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MW3 sucked. Everybody hates that game. The only reason anybody cares about Black Ops 2 is zombies and Nuketown. These are facts.
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[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Yet another game tries to be similar to the King of FPS's that is Call of Duty

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Stopped reading there.

Eh, me too, can't be bothered with finalstar's threads.
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[QUOTE="burgeg"]

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"] That's your problem.JohnnyCageMK

It's a big problem, and it's why I buy all my games on PS3 now. My problem. Microsoft caused that problem. They could fix that problem pretty easily. Take away the XBL subscription fee. Or at least add a PS Plus like service to at least make the fee worth it.

They have always charged for XBL. You knew that before you bought a 360. Its your own fault.

I didn't buy my 360 for XBL. I bought it because it had a killer lineup at the time and a far superior library to PS3 at the time. How times change. Nothing you can say can justify the fee. It's a rip off. Deal with it. I did. I dealt with it by cancelling my subscription and just playing the games I wanted to play online for free on my PS3.

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Wow. The 360 is totally dead on ideas. ispeakfact

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#39 finalstar2007
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[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"] Did... you... really just mention balance and killstreaks/loadouts? Are you high?Stevo_the_gamer

Actually he's right, the ONLY broken CoD game to ever release would be MW2 and thats only one game, the games after MW2 fixed everything from MW2 plus the games got more balanced ( so far the only issue left in CoD is spawn trapping which isnt that big of a deal because you can only spawn trap in specific modes and only with a full team that know how to do it ).

if Y person cant do well in Black Ops/MW3 aka the games that came out after MW2 then this Y person must really suck.

Finalstar, I enjoy your antics but this isn't a platform for you to discuss--it is clearly beyond your capacity. Let the adults speak on this.

oo i forgot my bad, this is halo so its only for adults.. got it! but since when u became an adult? thoguht u still had few more years left :P

ah Stevo never change as always :P

Carry on "adults"

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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="burgeg"]Not really. I'm a 360 owner and the parts of both games I'd actually want to play aren't accessible to me because I refuse to pay for the rip off that is XBL Gold.

burgeg

That's your problem.

It's a big problem, and it's why I buy all my games on PS3 now. My problem. Microsoft caused that problem. They could fix that problem pretty easily. Take away the XBL subscription fee. Or at least add a PS Plus like service to at least make the fee worth it.

How does that change the fact that 360 owners can play both?
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[QUOTE="burgeg"]

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"] That's your problem.freedomfreak

It's a big problem, and it's why I buy all my games on PS3 now. My problem. Microsoft caused that problem. They could fix that problem pretty easily. Take away the XBL subscription fee. Or at least add a PS Plus like service to at least make the fee worth it.

How does that change the fact that 360 owners can play both?

It doesn't in the slightest.
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Lol just when you think Halo couldn't get more generic.
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Oh well, I guess Co-op and singleplayer could still be fun.

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MW3 sucked. Everybody hates that game. The only reason anybody cares about Black Ops 2 is zombies and Nuketown. These are facts.JohnnyCageMK
i concur :D about the reasons for wanting blops lol not that mw3 sucked :)

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oo i forgot my bad, this is halo so its only for adults.. got it! but since when u became an adult? thoguht u still had few more years left :P

ah Stevo never change as always :P

Carry on "adults"

finalstar2007
This is balance you were attempting to discuss with respect to Call of Duty, nothing about Halo. Once again, you prove why rational discussion with you is next to impossible--especially when you have proven to be incompetent with notions like AA, AF, FPS, etc. Again, you have little baseline in regards to FPS to even begin with discussing balance. Don't even begin, it will not end well.
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[QUOTE="Zeviander"]I'll bet 343i does a better job with those elements and creates a more critically acclaimed game.Master_ShakeXXX

Doubtful. Treyarch and IW have far more experience with balancing out killstreaks and loadouts. Say what you will about CoD but these are the guys who pretty much invented these mechanics. Nobody else is better at them.

Yeah that knife VS machine gun was really well balanced.....ARCADE garbage

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[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"][QUOTE="burgeg"]It's a big problem, and it's why I buy all my games on PS3 now. My problem. Microsoft caused that problem. They could fix that problem pretty easily. Take away the XBL subscription fee. Or at least add a PS Plus like service to at least make the fee worth it.

burgeg

They have always charged for XBL. You knew that before you bought a 360. Its your own fault.

I didn't buy my 360 for XBL. I bought it because it had a killer lineup at the time and a far superior library to PS3 at the time. How times change. Nothing you can say can justify the fee. It's a rip off. Deal with it. I did. I dealt with it by cancelling my subscription and just playing the games I wanted to play online for free on my PS3.

I guess its a rip off to anybody that can't afford a couple bucks a month. Ebay sells subscription cards for $35 all the time. Not my fault you're poor like kuraimen.
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#48 Cheleman
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Mr. Finalstar I commend you for making so many peoples butthurt:lol::cool:

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#49 burgeg
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[QUOTE="burgeg"]

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"] That's your problem.freedomfreak

It's a big problem, and it's why I buy all my games on PS3 now. My problem. Microsoft caused that problem. They could fix that problem pretty easily. Take away the XBL subscription fee. Or at least add a PS Plus like service to at least make the fee worth it.

How does that change the fact that 360 owners can play both?

Not all can. Well, not the full games anyway. Lets face facts here. Most people that buy BO2 and Halo 4 buy them for the multiplayer. If you don't pay the XBL fee you're not playing the game you want to play. Hence why I won't be buying Halo 4. I can't play the multiplayer portion of Halo 4, therefore I can't play the game I want to play. If XBL was free I'd be buying Halo 4 day one. Halo is awesome.

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#50 DarkLink77
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Oh well, I guess Co-op and singleplayer could still be fun.

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That's how I feel, too. I really wish they'd take a few minutes and talk about the "classic" playlists they keep mentioning. Because what they do with those will make or break me getting the game.