GameSpot: We got CoD in our Halo! ah oh!

Actually CE set the standard for consoles in 2001.

GOGOGOGURT

And wouldn't it be Halo 2 in 2004 cause online?

So, act of desperation?

Cows have nothing to compete with Halo 4, so they try it out with CoD Black Ops 2, a multiplat that usually ends up selling better on 360?

Strange times... :?

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]360 owners get to play both. Living the good life.burgeg

So, act of desperation?

Cows have nothing to compete with Halo 4, so they try it out with CoD Black Ops 2, a multiplat that usually ends up selling better on 360?

Strange times... :?

Rocker6

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

It's funny how lemmings are attacking the tc and cows when Gamespot said that, not them. Halo fans always have the biggest buttaches.

JohnnyCageMK

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

"I've never worked for Infinity Ward, or Respawn - for years I bet they were asked similar questions about how it's like the multiplayer system in Halo 2 or something like that," franchise director Frank O'Connor told Eurogamer when asked about the new system's similarity to Call of Duty. "We're not chasing anybody else's tail - all the pressure comes from inside."

"What we do take very seriously is changing player habits. So rather than chasing Call of Duty or Battlefield and trying to do their thing and doing it poorly and doing injustice to it, we're trying to do our own thing, and do something fairly original but still something that's completely compatible with the Halo universe."

"Halo's not Call of Duty," O'Connor continued, "Halo's a sandbox game about really emergent things. A lot of things that worked great about Call of Duty - and don't get me wrong, I was addicted Black Ops all of last year - they do player rewards really well. We're not trying to do the same thing, it's as simple as that. We're trying to do something else, and to push our game forwards and not theirs."

/thread

Stevo_the_gamer

I got to play a few matches of Halo 4 while I was at Fan Expo, and while it does still "feel" like Halo, there are a few things that I did notice. I should mention that the version I played was the one from E3, so things might have changed by now.

First, the distance of your grenades when you throw them has significantley been nerfed, you can no longer through super far distances like you could in Halo 3. Instead they tend to drop down rather quickly (kind of like CoD: WaW). One of the best things about Halo have always been the awesome throws you could do with grenades, I'm hoping that has been changed.

Second, while this really isn't a big deal, the fact that they added hit markers and the "+10 Kill" notifiers are pretty much useless or annoying. Trying to figure out if you have hit someone has never been the biggest problem in Halo since the shields would light up if you hit them and they still do, making the hit markers extra effects that can be a distraction (at least for me) or just useless since you already know that you hit someone. As for the kill notifiers, there happens to be the text on the lower left screen to tell you who you just killed (or if you did).

Third, the point system, I have never been a big fan of this since someone who got more kills, more assists, less deaths than everyone else can end up not being the top player, which makes no sense what so ever. This happened to me and my friend, in our third game I went 9, 6, 5 (K, A, D), he went 10, 5, 4, in other words he did better than me overall, yet i was top player because I had more points. That can be real fustrating when someone who did worse than you beat you, you don't see that happening in real life for the same reason you shouldn't see it in video games, it makes no sense.

Things like these (in addition to the loadouts), make me cautiously pysched for Halo 4. I guess we really won't see until the game releases.

PS: No Armour Lock in Halo 4

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

Actually CE set the standard for consoles in 2001.

ChubbyGuy40

And wouldn't it be Halo 2 in 2004 cause online?

[QUOTE="burgeg"]

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"] That's your problem.JohnnyCageMK

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]

"I've never worked for Infinity Ward, or Respawn - for years I bet they were asked similar questions about how it's like the multiplayer system in Halo 2 or something like that," franchise director Frank O'Connor told Eurogamer when asked about the new system's similarity to Call of Duty. "We're not chasing anybody else's tail - all the pressure comes from inside."

"What we do take very seriously is changing player habits. So rather than chasing Call of Duty or Battlefield and trying to do their thing and doing it poorly and doing injustice to it, we're trying to do our own thing, and do something fairly original but still something that's completely compatible with the Halo universe."

"Halo's not Call of Duty," O'Connor continued, "Halo's a sandbox game about really emergent things. A lot of things that worked great about Call of Duty - and don't get me wrong, I was addicted Black Ops all of last year - they do player rewards really well. We're not trying to do the same thing, it's as simple as that. We're trying to do something else, and to push our game forwards and not theirs."

/thread

DarkLink77

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Yet another game tries to be similar to the King of FPS's that is Call of Duty

Shirokishi_

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

Actually CE set the standard for consoles in 2001.

ChubbyGuy40

And wouldn't it be Halo 2 in 2004 cause online?

Yep. No COD, no halo. So CODboys should be worshipping halo

Black Ops 2 360 version will sell the most. Halo 4 will outsell the Black Ops 2 PS3 version. PS3 still has no games this year.JohnnyCageMK

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="burgeg"]Not really. I'm a 360 owner and the parts of both games I'd actually want to play aren't accessible to me because I refuse to pay for the rip off that is XBL Gold.

burgeg

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

So, act of desperation?

Cows have nothing to compete with Halo 4, so they try it out with CoD Black Ops 2, a multiplat that usually ends up selling better on 360?

Strange times... :?

JohnnyCageMK

lol if you play an fps or tps on any console your doing it wrong :cool: face facts j.k. you may have bought more copies.. but a superior shooting platform is the pc.

here ill prepare a rebuttal from your lack of creativity.. ill give you a rolling start as it were :cool:

I got to play a few matches of Halo 4 while I was at Fan Expo, and while it does still "feel" like Halo, there are a few things that I did notice. I should mention that the version I played was the one from E3, so things might have changed by now.

First, the distance of your grenades when you throw them has significantley been nerfed, you can no longer through super far distances like you could in Halo 3. Instead they tend to drop down rather quickly (kind of like CoD: WaW). One of the best things about Halo have always been the awesome throws you could do with grenades, I'm hoping that has been changed.

Second, while this really isn't a big deal, the fact that they added hit markers and the "+10 Kill" notifiers are pretty much useless or annoying. Trying to figure out if you have hit someone has never been the biggest problem in Halo since the shields would light up if you hit them and they still do, making the hit markers extra effects that can be a distraction (at least for me) or just useless since you already know that you hit someone. As for the kill notifiers, there happens to be the text on the lower left screen to tell you who you just killed (or if you did).

Third, the point system, I have never been a big fan of this since someone who got more kills, more assists, less deaths than everyone else can end up not being the top player, which makes no sense what so ever. This happened to me and my friend, in our third game I went 9, 6, 5 (K, A, D), he went 10, 5, 4, in other words he did better than me overall, yet i was top player because I had more points. That can be real fustrating when someone who did worse than you beat you, you don't see that happening in real life for the same reason you shouldn't see it in video games, it makes no sense.

Things like these (in addition to the loadouts), make me cautiously pysched for Halo 4. I guess we really won't see until the game releases.

PS: No Armour Lock in Halo 4

EliteM0nk3y

hmmm, the first two things I could live with although I'm not liking the sound of that point system. I'd be okay with it if there was a special playlist all about trying to get the most medals, or having a playlist just for trying to be the most "stylish", for lack of better words, but in a main mode? not crazy about it. I guess we will see though how it ends up in the final version.

well if they're gonna borrow from CoD im glad they borrow the only thing CoD does well. loadouts and a progressions system.mems_1224

[QUOTE="EliteM0nk3y"]

I got to play a few matches of Halo 4 while I was at Fan Expo, and while it does still "feel" like Halo, there are a few things that I did notice. I should mention that the version I played was the one from E3, so things might have changed by now.

First, the distance of your grenades when you throw them has significantley been nerfed, you can no longer through super far distances like you could in Halo 3. Instead they tend to drop down rather quickly (kind of like CoD: WaW). One of the best things about Halo have always been the awesome throws you could do with grenades, I'm hoping that has been changed.

Second, while this really isn't a big deal, the fact that they added hit markers and the "+10 Kill" notifiers are pretty much useless or annoying. Trying to figure out if you have hit someone has never been the biggest problem in Halo since the shields would light up if you hit them and they still do, making the hit markers extra effects that can be a distraction (at least for me) or just useless since you already know that you hit someone. As for the kill notifiers, there happens to be the text on the lower left screen to tell you who you just killed (or if you did).

Third, the point system, I have never been a big fan of this since someone who got more kills, more assists, less deaths than everyone else can end up not being the top player, which makes no sense what so ever. This happened to me and my friend, in our third game I went 9, 6, 5 (K, A, D), he went 10, 5, 4, in other words he did better than me overall, yet i was top player because I had more points. That can be real fustrating when someone who did worse than you beat you, you don't see that happening in real life for the same reason you shouldn't see it in video games, it makes no sense.

Things like these (in addition to the loadouts), make me cautiously pysched for Halo 4. I guess we really won't see until the game releases.

PS: No Armour Lock in Halo 4

DJ-Lafleur

hmmm, the first two things I could live with although I'm not liking the sound of that point system. I'd be okay with it if there was a special playlist all about trying to get the most medals, or having a playlist just for trying to be the most "stylish", for lack of better words, but in a main mode? not crazy about it. I guess we will see though how it ends up in the final version.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]well if they're gonna borrow from CoD im glad they borrow the only thing CoD does well. loadouts and a progressions system.JohnnyCageMK

Any game that has a K/D generally leads to such behaviour, which is why I'd honestly be glad if K/D's would just be done with.

It'd be better to have a win/lose ratio than a K/D, IMO, that way more people would actually play more seriously. Although it still wouldn't stop dipsh*ts from going "HURRRR YOU HAVE MORE LOSSES THAN WINS YOU MUST BE N00B LOLZ."

[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

[QUOTE="EliteM0nk3y"]

I got to play a few matches of Halo 4 while I was at Fan Expo, and while it does still "feel" like Halo, there are a few things that I did notice. I should mention that the version I played was the one from E3, so things might have changed by now.

First, the distance of your grenades when you throw them has significantley been nerfed, you can no longer through super far distances like you could in Halo 3. Instead they tend to drop down rather quickly (kind of like CoD: WaW). One of the best things about Halo have always been the awesome throws you could do with grenades, I'm hoping that has been changed.

Second, while this really isn't a big deal, the fact that they added hit markers and the "+10 Kill" notifiers are pretty much useless or annoying. Trying to figure out if you have hit someone has never been the biggest problem in Halo since the shields would light up if you hit them and they still do, making the hit markers extra effects that can be a distraction (at least for me) or just useless since you already know that you hit someone. As for the kill notifiers, there happens to be the text on the lower left screen to tell you who you just killed (or if you did).

Third, the point system, I have never been a big fan of this since someone who got more kills, more assists, less deaths than everyone else can end up not being the top player, which makes no sense what so ever. This happened to me and my friend, in our third game I went 9, 6, 5 (K, A, D), he went 10, 5, 4, in other words he did better than me overall, yet i was top player because I had more points. That can be real fustrating when someone who did worse than you beat you, you don't see that happening in real life for the same reason you shouldn't see it in video games, it makes no sense.

Things like these (in addition to the loadouts), make me cautiously pysched for Halo 4. I guess we really won't see until the game releases.

PS: No Armour Lock in Halo 4

DarkLink77

hmmm, the first two things I could live with although I'm not liking the sound of that point system. I'd be okay with it if there was a special playlist all about trying to get the most medals, or having a playlist just for trying to be the most "stylish", for lack of better words, but in a main mode? not crazy about it. I guess we will see though how it ends up in the final version.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

hmmm, the first two things I could live with although I'm not liking the sound of that point system. I'd be okay with it if there was a special playlist all about trying to get the most medals, or having a playlist just for trying to be the most "stylish", for lack of better words, but in a main mode? not crazy about it. I guess we will see though how it ends up in the final version.

EliteM0nk3y

[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]Black Ops 2 360 version will sell the most. Halo 4 will outsell the Black Ops 2 PS3 version. PS3 still has no games this year.tormentos

Reach wasn't a numbered sequel. The only CoD game on PS3 to outsell Halo 3 is MW3, and thats comparing a game that came out in 2007 to a game that came out in 2011.

Halo 4 has a much greater chance of outselling CoD on PS3

[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]well if they're gonna borrow from CoD im glad they borrow the only thing CoD does well. loadouts and a progressions system.DJ-Lafleur

Any game that has a K/D generally leads to such behaviour, which is why I'd honestly be glad if K/D's would just be done with.

It'd be better to have a win/lose ratio than a K/D, IMO, that way more people would actually play more seriously. Although it still wouldn't stop dipsh*ts from going "HURRRR YOU HAVE MORE LOSSES THAN WINS YOU MUST BE N00B LOLZ."

Halo 3/Reach does it pretty well IMO. During a match you can only see how many Kills and Deaths you have, at the end of the match you get your match report which goes a little more indepth. But if you want to see your global stats you have to got to bungie.net (or whatever it is now) to see them. So the average person never really sees their K/D ratio, only on a match per match basis.

[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"] I think the progression system is what ruins COD cause instead of playing for fun you end up just playing to prestige which leads to camping for killstreaks and everybody only caring about a prestige emblem and their k/d.EliteM0nk3y

Any game that has a K/D generally leads to such behaviour, which is why I'd honestly be glad if K/D's would just be done with.

It'd be better to have a win/lose ratio than a K/D, IMO, that way more people would actually play more seriously. Although it still wouldn't stop dipsh*ts from going "HURRRR YOU HAVE MORE LOSSES THAN WINS YOU MUST BE N00B LOLZ."

Halo 3/Reach does it pretty well IMO. During a match you can only see how many Kills and Deaths you have, at the end of the match you get your match report which goes a little more indepth. But if you want to see your global stats you have to got to bungie.net (or whatever it is now) to see them. So the average person never really sees their K/D ratio, only on a match per match basis.

[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]well if they're gonna borrow from CoD im glad they borrow the only thing CoD does well. loadouts and a progressions system.DJ-Lafleur

Any game that has a K/D generally leads to such behaviour, which is why I'd honestly be glad if K/D's would just be done with.

It'd be better to have a win/lose ratio than a K/D, IMO, that way more people would actually play more seriously. Although it still wouldn't stop dipsh*ts from going "HURRRR YOU HAVE MORE LOSSES THAN WINS YOU MUST BE N00B LOLZ."

[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"] I think the progression system is what ruins COD cause instead of playing for fun you end up just playing to prestige which leads to camping for killstreaks and everybody only caring about a prestige emblem and their k/d.EliteM0nk3y

Any game that has a K/D generally leads to such behaviour, which is why I'd honestly be glad if K/D's would just be done with.

It'd be better to have a win/lose ratio than a K/D, IMO, that way more people would actually play more seriously. Although it still wouldn't stop dipsh*ts from going "HURRRR YOU HAVE MORE LOSSES THAN WINS YOU MUST BE N00B LOLZ."

Halo 3/Reach does it pretty well IMO. During a match you can only see how many Kills and Deaths you have, at the end of the match you get your match report which goes a little more indepth. But if you want to see your global stats you have to got to bungie.net (or whatever it is now) to see them. So the average person never really sees their K/D ratio, only on a match per match basis.

True, I never really see such behaviour in reach very often when I play. Although that could just be because I'm lucky or because I mute alot of players because the sound of the younger generation over microphones can be pretty grating sometimes. =/

[QUOTE="EliteM0nk3y"]

[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

Any game that has a K/D generally leads to such behaviour, which is why I'd honestly be glad if K/D's would just be done with.

It'd be better to have a win/lose ratio than a K/D, IMO, that way more people would actually play more seriously. Although it still wouldn't stop dipsh*ts from going "HURRRR YOU HAVE MORE LOSSES THAN WINS YOU MUST BE N00B LOLZ."

DarkLink77

Halo 3/Reach does it pretty well IMO. During a match you can only see how many Kills and Deaths you have, at the end of the match you get your match report which goes a little more indepth. But if you want to see your global stats you have to got to bungie.net (or whatever it is now) to see them. So the average person never really sees their K/D ratio, only on a match per match basis.

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]Black Ops 2 360 version will sell the most. Halo 4 will outsell the Black Ops 2 PS3 version. PS3 still has no games this year.RR360DD

Reach wasn't a numbered sequel. The only CoD game on PS3 to outsell Halo 3 is MW3, and thats comparing a game that came out in 2007 to a game that came out in 2011.

Halo 4 has a much greater chance of outselling CoD on PS3

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="EliteM0nk3y"]

Halo 3/Reach does it pretty well IMO. During a match you can only see how many Kills and Deaths you have, at the end of the match you get your match report which goes a little more indepth. But if you want to see your global stats you have to got to bungie.net (or whatever it is now) to see them. So the average person never really sees their K/D ratio, only on a match per match basis.

ionusX

[QUOTE="ionusX"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Actually, unless I'm wrong, you can't see your deaths in a Halo game until after the match is over. You just see your kills.DarkLink77

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

Actually CE set the standard for consoles in 2001.

GOGOGOGURT

And wouldn't it be Halo 2 in 2004 cause online?

Yep. No COD, no halo. So CODboys should be worshipping halo

It's finalstars failure to have an IQ above 1 digit that stops him from realising this

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] Funny MW3 sold more on PS3 than Halo Reach..lolJohnnyCageMK

Reach wasn't a numbered sequel. The only CoD game on PS3 to outsell Halo 3 is MW3, and thats comparing a game that came out in 2007 to a game that came out in 2011.

Halo 4 has a much greater chance of outselling CoD on PS3

Im only going off vgctartz, which has Halo 3 at like 11.5 mil and MW3 a bit higher. Not totally sure though, but I can definitely see Halo 4 reaching higher numbers.

I can definitely see Halo 4 reaching higher numbers.RR360DD

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]I can definitely see Halo 4 reaching higher numbers.Stevo_the_gamer

Might come back with a bang. But yeah, competing against a TreyArch CoD is going to be mighty hard.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]I can definitely see Halo 4 reaching higher numbers.OB-47

Might come back with a bang. But yeah, competing against a TreyArch CoD is going to be mighty hard.

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]I can definitely see Halo 4 reaching higher numbers.Stevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]Black Ops 2 360 version will sell the most. Halo 4 will outsell the Black Ops 2 PS3 version. PS3 still has no games this year.RR360DD

Reach wasn't a numbered sequel. The only CoD game on PS3 to outsell Halo 3 is MW3, and thats comparing a game that came out in 2007 to a game that came out in 2011.

Halo 4 has a much greater chance of outselling CoD on PS3

[QUOTE="OB-47"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"] I can't. Halo just isn't what it was anymore when it comes to sales.hoosier7

Might come back with a bang. But yeah, competing against a TreyArch CoD is going to be mighty hard.

I think you guys are underestimating it. Only 2 years ago Reach managed to sell just under 10 million, and that was a prequel. The name Halo 4 alone will draw in more people.

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] Funny MW3 sold more on PS3 than Halo Reach..loltormentos

Reach wasn't a numbered sequel. The only CoD game on PS3 to outsell Halo 3 is MW3, and thats comparing a game that came out in 2007 to a game that came out in 2011.

Halo 4 has a much greater chance of outselling CoD on PS3

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] Funny MW3 sold more on PS3 than Halo Reach..loltormentos

Reach wasn't a numbered sequel. The only CoD game on PS3 to outsell Halo 3 is MW3, and thats comparing a game that came out in 2007 to a game that came out in 2011.

Halo 4 has a much greater chance of outselling CoD on PS3

LOL no is is buying black ops anymore, less time on the market means nothing. The instal base for each console was a lot bigger in 2010 than 2007.

Halo 4, being the direct sequel to Halo 3, has a good chance to outsell it.

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] Funny MW3 sold more on PS3 than Halo Reach..lolJohnnyCageMK

Reach wasn't a numbered sequel. The only CoD game on PS3 to outsell Halo 3 is MW3, and thats comparing a game that came out in 2007 to a game that came out in 2011.

Halo 4 has a much greater chance of outselling CoD on PS3

[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Reach wasn't a numbered sequel. The only CoD game on PS3 to outsell Halo 3 is MW3, and thats comparing a game that came out in 2007 to a game that came out in 2011.

Halo 4 has a much greater chance of outselling CoD on PS3

tormentos

Cause the last time an actual report was released MW3 was selling at a slower pace than Blops.JohnnyCageMK

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

It's funny how lemmings are attacking the tc and cows when Gamespot said that, not them. Halo fans always have the biggest buttaches.

ispeakfact

[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]Cause the last time an actual report was released MW3 was selling at a slower pace than Blops.Blabadon

http://www.neoseeker.com/news/18846-call-of-duty-sales-slow-modern-warfare-3-lags-behind-black-ops/

Common sense would suggest vgchartz is overtracking this game by alot.

[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]Cause the last time an actual report was released MW3 was selling at a slower pace than Blops.JohnnyCageMK

http://www.neoseeker.com/news/18846-call-of-duty-sales-slow-modern-warfare-3-lags-behind-black-ops/

Common sense would suggest vgchartz is overtracking this game by alot.

As long as it's well balanced, then fine.