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#51 HAZE-Unit
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[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"] Again, you are to stupid to accept it. I flat out said I don't like it. I know it is bullshit. But all I can do about it is not buy it. But since I have the internet, AI have a good job, I like games, I will just roll with it. I am not happy with it at all, but I am not gonna go buy a game system I don't want like a Wii U just because of DRM. Not when I am gonna have internet anyway. I trade games all the time. I guess now I will be more picky with what I buy. It isn't that big of a deal to me. I am not gonna stay up at night curled in a ball losing sleep over it like apparently you immature, self centered babies do.timbers_WSU

All those excuses to buy something you are not convinced of lol.

What a hypocritical loser, you don't like something but you are going to buy it?

What am I not convinced of? Good job adding nothing to the conversation. You're parents gave us an asset to society.

Now you pretend to be stupid? or are you really stupid ? Do you read what you write? 

You're = you are, you need some modifications to your brain to function properly.

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#52 Krelian-co
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[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"] Again, you are to stupid to accept it. I flat out said I don't like it. I know it is bullshit. But all I can do about it is not buy it. But since I have the internet, AI have a good job, I like games, I will just roll with it. I am not happy with it at all, but I am not gonna go buy a game system I don't want like a Wii U just because of DRM. Not when I am gonna have internet anyway. I trade games all the time. I guess now I will be more picky with what I buy. It isn't that big of a deal to me. I am not gonna stay up at night curled in a ball losing sleep over it like apparently you immature, self centered babies do.timbers_WSU

no you are the one who is too stupid to understand, you are saying shut up and accept it, well people don't have to because there are two better choises, either pc or ps4 so why accept this bs. Keep crying

OK. I will say it one more time. No one is making you buy it. So you are more than welcome to buy a PS4 or PC. Is there anything about that your ignorant, slow and useless ass does not understand?

the only ignorant idiot here is you crying and crying over and over, if you are going to buy go ahead why must you whine and cry all the thread. 

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#53 Krelian-co
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All those excuses to buy something you are not convinced of lol.

What a hypocritical loser, you don't like something but you are going to buy it?

HAZE-Unit

What am I not convinced of? Good job adding nothing to the conversation. You're parents gave us an asset to society.

Now you pretend to be stupid? or are you really stupid ? Do you read what you write? 

he is not pretending, anyone would think so by the stupid bs he writes, but sadly is not.

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#54 timbers_WSU
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[QUOTE="clyde46"] Sony has already been burnt with aggressive DRM, thats besides the point. It does not matter which company is doing it, they will not get my business. The argument for this anti-consumerism nonsense has been around for a while. When D3 was announced with no LAN many people questioned it yet they were met with the shouts from the fanboys that it was nothing to worry about, the same again happened with Simcity. Companies cannot keep doing stuff like this and its about time gamers woke the fvck and did something about it!clyde46

I am sure there are plenty of people out there that won't buy it. I am sure when Sony announces they are gonna screw everyone because EA and Activision wants them too there will be people boycotting them as well. But I also know that some people will say "I don't buy used games." "I don't like loaning my shit out." "I have internet." So it won't bug them at all. I am just one of those people that has accepted it. As long as the games will always be available to me Then I am good. Now if they came out and said "We no longer support the XB1 and PS4 so your games are getting cut off." Yeah....Then I would be pissed and go on a internet spree or whatever.

Sony will have to follow MS if they want to stay competitive if all the publishers refuse to put their games on the PS4. You mention that you just accepted it? You are telling me that you are fine with them taking away your rights on what you do with your own property? If I buy something, I expect to be allowed to do what I want with it.

I just told you that I go to XBOX.com to voice my opinions. Doing it here is not gonna help anything. Publishers thing this place is a joke. XBOX.com or neogaf is the only place where things like this is where I would bother complaining. Again, I don't like what they are doing. But there are only so many ways I can tell Microsoft that I am not happy. Have you not been to XBOX.com? There might be 1 positive thread out of every 20 there. They are banning people and deleting post left and right. If Microsoft is gonna do something about it's BS policy it will be because of what is happening on their own site. If people wanna complain and protest, they need to do it there. Not here. Everyone and their Mother knows this place is just a place for Cows to come and troll. SW is a running joke on every other site I have been on and Marcus Beer even said a while back on his Twitter that people in the industry avoid it because there is no moderation and no intelligent conversations that come out of here. And over the last year, I tend to agree with him.
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#55 Krelian-co
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="timbers_WSU"] I am sure there are plenty of people out there that won't buy it. I am sure when Sony announces they are gonna screw everyone because EA and Activision wants them too there will be people boycotting them as well. But I also know that some people will say "I don't buy used games." "I don't like loaning my shit out." "I have internet." So it won't bug them at all. I am just one of those people that has accepted it. As long as the games will always be available to me Then I am good. Now if they came out and said "We no longer support the XB1 and PS4 so your games are getting cut off." Yeah....Then I would be pissed and go on a internet spree or whatever.

timbers_WSU

Sony will have to follow MS if they want to stay competitive if all the publishers refuse to put their games on the PS4. You mention that you just accepted it? You are telling me that you are fine with them taking away your rights on what you do with your own property? If I buy something, I expect to be allowed to do what I want with it.

I just told you that I go to XBOX.com to voice my opinions. Doing it here is not gonna help anything. Publishers thing this place is a joke. XBOX.com or neogaf is the only place where things like this is where I would bother complaining. Again, I don't like what they are doing. But there are only so many ways I can tell Microsoft that I am not happy. Have you not been to XBOX.com? There might be 1 positive thread out of every 20 there. They are banning people and deleting post left and right. If Microsoft is gonna do something about it's BS policy it will be because of what is happening on their own site. If people wanna complain and protest, they need to do it there. Not here. Everyone and their Mother knows this place is just a place for Cows to come and troll. SW is a running joke on every other site I have been on and Marcus Beer even said a while back on his Twitter that people in the industry avoid it because there is no moderation and no intelligent conversations that come out of here. And over the last year, I tend to agree with him.

holy mother of wall of text

complains about whinning - proceeds to whine harder by spamming this thread with tears "leave microsoft aloneeeee" :lol:

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#56 timbers_WSU
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[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"] What am I not convinced of? Good job adding nothing to the conversation. You're parents gave us an asset to society.Krelian-co

Now you pretend to be stupid? or are you really stupid ? Do you read what you write? 

he is not pretending, anyone would think so by the stupid bs he writes, but sadly is not.

You are really upset by this aren't you? I won't use the term butthurt. God knows it has been ran to the ground here. But perhaps you should not put to much faith in Sony come E3. Something tells me they are gonna make you cry as well. But then again....You Cows really know how to flow with the tide. I am sure you have been thinking of a way to spin it into something positive.

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#57 2Chalupas
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Isn't this basically collusion though? To restrict sales to just gamestop = not allow the free markets to operate (ebay, amazon marketplace, etc). I'm assuming the big retailers will also have deals, but it seems like it should be illegal since it totally shuts out the little mom-and-pop stores and individual sellers. Anti-trust lawyers should go after MS (again).
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#58 NathanDrakeSwag
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All we can do is hope that there are not alot of people as dumb as timbers out there.

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#59 deactivated-585ea4b128526
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It is who ever can win over amazon and eBay will be the true 8th gen winner. GameStop still hasn't sold off their initial wiiu stock, that is how out of touch they have become.
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#60 Mandingo101
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You can always game on PC.  We have more independent games and studios, games are cheaper, and chances are you already own a PC ...just drop a 250 dollar video card in there, and youre good to game.

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Yea... no. I would not advise anyone to just "drop a 250 video card in there" and expect good results.
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#61 Mandingo101
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And, $59 used XBone games: Confirmed. Free lube included for lems. :lol:
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#62 Nengo_Flow
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Well, MS got the big guns, Sony coming to the fight with a pea shooter. I'll just say iys good business, everybnody wins including the gamer.

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size of gunz dont matter as long as you hit your enemies on their weak points for massive damage
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#63 Praisedasun
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[QUOTE="Scipio8"]

Well, MS got the big guns, Sony coming to the fight with a pea shooter. I'll just say iys good business, everybnody wins including the gamer.

Nengo_Flow
size of gunz dont matter as long as you hit your enemies on their weak points for massive damage

So sony just have to hit microsoft.
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#64 p4s2p0
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"Microsoft, the leader of the pack" Lems sure know how to make us laugh.
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[QUOTE="2Chalupas"]Isn't this basically collusion though? To restrict sales to just gamestop = not allow the free markets to operate (ebay, amazon marketplace, etc). I'm assuming the big retailers will also have deals, but it seems like it should be illegal since it totally shuts out the little mom-and-pop stores and individual sellers. Anti-trust lawyers should go after MS (again).

Great post however unfortunatly the Mom & Pop shops where I live were killed off a long time ago. GameStop opened so many stores here that it created the Walmart effect and all of them died. I even had the owner of the store I used to shop at and shoot the shit in for years, called Playsource offer me his entire store for $20k before he went under. Since the demise of these stores, the value of my games have just disappeared. I think these companies need to go after Gamestop. Not jump into bed with them. For this store is the single reason the preowned market got out of hand to begin with. Gamestop has never been good for gamers. They are just an over priced rental monopoly.
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#66 Arthas045
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Expect $120 retail games....
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I loled @ Gaming Cartel thats pretty clever
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#68 Rocker6
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TC, why Activision?

Have they ever done anything widely considered anti-consumer?

They never even implemented an on-line pass to their games, they only have a highly popular franchise on their hands, and are making the most of it... fact of the matter is, CoD is incredibly accessible, at no point you need to jump through any hoops...

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#69 II_Seraphim_II
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lol timbers_WSU....
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]

Don't like it find a new hobby. Game are more expensive to make. People pirate all the time. Studios have been closing down left and right. They have to protect their investments.
Welcome to the real world. Being a whiny bitch does not help. They will survive without you. All your crying does is show everyone that you are a baby that can't deal with change and expects people to drop to your every needs.
I don't like it either but I have been gaming for so long I would not know how to live without it. I accept it.

AmazonTreeBoa

This is the problem we have. As soon as someone raises some questions they get screamed at.

The irony is he is sitting there crying like a straight bitch all the while telling us to stop being whiny bitches.

lol its true. Probably an MS employee.
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TC, why Activision?

Have they ever done anything widely considered anti-consumer?

They never even implemented an on-line pass to their games, they only have a highly popular franchise on their hands, and are making the most of it... fact of the matter is, CoD is incredibly accessible, at no point you need to jump through any hoops...

Rocker6
I agree who would not want to try to get as much money from a franchise and still keep their fanbase satisified. I understand some of us know it is a cash cow and guess what the majority of us still buy it, they must be doing something right or they are lucky as hell
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#72 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"][QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="timbers_WSU"] I accept it. But you keep crying, signing your petitions, keep complaining to a bunch of whiners in a game forum. Good luck with your quest. You never liked Microsoft anyways. So I seriously doubt EA or Ubisoft, or Microsoft gives one shit about your opinion.

You accept anything MS shove up your ass, what's fvcking new?

And Sony. You all keep forgetting I have a PS3 as well. I accepted Sony's crap as well. Microsoft is not the only company who has screwed me over the last 10 years. Sony has did a great job of it as well.

Enjoy being a tool. Believe me, if Sony does the same thing as MS with that xbox one bullshit, I'll be one of the first to say fvck 'em, instead of jumping around defending them like you're doing with your precious MS.
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It's easy guys, just come to the bright side, the QUAD/PC is awaiting you :)

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so confused as to how used games/renting is a big deal at all... I stopped buying used a while ago because I can usually get a brand new copy (sometimes with the preorder bonus slips still in the cases) within a month at half (or so) the price. It just doesn't make sense to me. Of course, I do remember renting snes games... good times.

As far as gaming being expensive now adays... go look at an ad for, let's say 1997, and look at the price of some games. For instance, FF7 - 49.99. Calculate inflation in todays dollars and what do you get? ff7 costing 73 dollars. So, in fact, gaming is cheaper now. The used game/new game prices/fees, and all of the other nonsense means nothing to me, the ps4 has great games and if I bought a 1,2,and ps3, why stop at the ps4.

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so confused as to how used games/renting is a big deal at all... I stopped buying used a while ago because I can usually get a brand new copy (sometimes with the preorder bonus slips still in the cases) within a month at half (or so) the price. It just doesn't make sense to me. Of course, I do remember renting snes games... good times.

 

As far as gaming being expensive now adays... go look at an ad for, let's say 1997, and look at the price of some games. For instance, FF7 - 49.99. Calculate inflation in todays dollars and what do you get? ff7 costing 73 dollars. So, in fact, gaming is cheaper now. The used game/new game prices/fees, and all of the other nonsense means nothing to me, the ps4 has great games and if I bought a 1,2,and ps3, why stop at the ps4.

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The complaints are mostly for online check, no borrowing, and not being able to sell your games. I am only upset by the borrowing because anyone with friends who have the same console borrow each others games. As for price you have a point and I see people spend well over that price to just go out to eat, but the more expensive a game is the harder it is for children to get mommy and daddy to buy it for them. Alot of parents think of games as not worth $60 because in their opinion a movie is better making them think it is a waste of money, which when I was younger, lets say 1997, I rarely got new games because they were pricey and my papents thought they were a waste

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#76 ScreamDream
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I feel the death of Mom and Pop video games stores are gone thanks to MS.

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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]

Don't like it find a new hobby. Game are more expensive to make. People pirate all the time. Studios have been closing down left and right. They have to protect their investments.
Welcome to the real world. Being a whiny bitch does not help. They will survive without you. All your crying does is show everyone that you are a baby that can't deal with change and expects people to drop to your every needs.
I don't like it either but I have been gaming for so long I would not know how to live without it. I accept it.

AmazonTreeBoa

This is the problem we have. As soon as someone raises some questions they get screamed at.

The irony is he is sitting there crying like a straight bitch all the while telling us to stop being whiny bitches.

Crying is all he knows. Either way apologist idiots like him are the ones who make everything worse for everyone else. People like timbers act as if thinking and being critical is a burden. Their brains probably aren't apt for the mental gymnastics known as reason.

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#78 SchnabbleTab
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[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] This is the problem we have. As soon as someone raises some questions they get screamed at. kuraimen

The irony is he is sitting there crying like a straight bitch all the while telling us to stop being whiny bitches.

Crying is all he knows. Either way apologist idiots like him are the ones who make everything worse for everyone else.

 

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Don't like it find a new hobby. Game are more expensive to make. People pirate all the time. Studios have been closing down left and right. They have to protect their investments.
Welcome to the real world. Being a whiny bitch does not help. They will survive without you. All your crying does is show everyone that you are a baby that can't deal with change and expects people to drop to your every needs.
I don't like it either but I have been gaming for so long I would not know how to live without it. I accept it.

timbers_WSU

LMAO. What a clown.

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#80 Lionheart08
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Still don't see how people could possibly spin Microsoft's actions into a positive light. They've essentially stripped away your power to sell your games when your done with it. Your only option is to deal with Gamestop abominable prices now.

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#81 Zurrur
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Is anyone even gonna bother buying physical copies for Xbone, unless when there is special discount

You can't own your games anymore, its just timed licence, much easier just download them straight from store

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so confused as to how used games/renting is a big deal at all... I stopped buying used a while ago because I can usually get a brand new copy (sometimes with the preorder bonus slips still in the cases) within a month at half (or so) the price. It just doesn't make sense to me. Of course, I do remember renting snes games... good times.

As far as gaming being expensive now adays... go look at an ad for, let's say 1997, and look at the price of some games. For instance, FF7 - 49.99. Calculate inflation in todays dollars and what do you get? ff7 costing 73 dollars. So, in fact, gaming is cheaper now. The used game/new game prices/fees, and all of the other nonsense means nothing to me, the ps4 has great games and if I bought a 1,2,and ps3, why stop at the ps4.

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There's still a difference though because while that copy of FF7 was $49.99, it would still hold its value for a very long time. When I bought it, I had to do nothing more than trade in two or three old games to get it. Now days, I would be looking at removing seven to ten games from my library just to buy one. Its pretty sad when six month to one year old titles are worth about as much as previous year sports installments used to. The only problem with the used market is the saturation that was created by Gamestop. It used to be two to three games for one. Now its seven to ten games junked the title just released a few months ago. Even worse, their power up rewards card doesn't do much to promote new game sales since the 10% discount is only given for buying even more used games. What used to be an affordable way to buy new games on a budget has become a ripoff scheme so gamestop could capitalize on everything. As much as I'm disappointed in this new partnership scheme, the gamers of today did this to themselves and now the rest of us have to suffer due to their impulsive buying habits.
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#83 Merex760
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I'd be fine with another video game crash right now. Seriously.

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#84 Murderstyle75
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Is anyone even gonna bother buying physical copies for Xbone, unless when there is special discount

You can't own your games anymore, its just timed licence, much easier just download them straight from store

Zurrur
And surprisingly their digital prices are actually getting better. Tomb Raider was just released On Demand for 29.99. Gamestop still wants $44.99 preowned. Even old games like The Orange Box are being hustled as $34.99 preowned while the On Demand version is $19.99.
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#85 Chutebox
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And this is how MS will get money from used games. People get fooled so easily.

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MS is an embaressment to console gaming.
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#87 stayhigh1
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Don't like it find a new hobby. Game are more expensive to make. People pirate all the time. Studios have been closing down left and right. They have to protect their investments.
Welcome to the real world. Being a whiny bitch does not help. They will survive without you. All your crying does is show everyone that you are a baby that can't deal with change and expects people to drop to your every needs.
I don't like it either but I have been gaming for so long I would not know how to live without it. I accept it.

timbers_WSU
M$ going to offer you a life time of vaseline for you as-hole..All gamers should do something about it..like boycott the XBONER!
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#88 II_Seraphim_II
Member since 2007 • 20534 Posts
[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]

Don't like it find a new hobby. Game are more expensive to make. People pirate all the time. Studios have been closing down left and right. They have to protect their investments.
Welcome to the real world. Being a whiny bitch does not help. They will survive without you. All your crying does is show everyone that you are a baby that can't deal with change and expects people to drop to your every needs.
I don't like it either but I have been gaming for so long I would not know how to live without it. I accept it.

stayhigh1
M$ going to offer you a life time of vaseline for you as-hole..All gamers should do something about it..like boycott the XBONER!

MIcrosoft doesnt use vaseline. They go in raw, cause they know their fans will take it. :P
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#89 jimmypsn
Member since 2010 • 4425 Posts

Cartel. lol  You're making them sound more cool than they are. heeh

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#90 percech
Member since 2011 • 5237 Posts
Games on X1 will not have much value in them if Gamestop is the only way to get rid of your shit. lol...forget about sports games, that will fill up your room faster than you get sick of them.
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#91 Sali217
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Ever since Microsoft entered the console gaming industry they have been dragging it into the gutter.
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#92 jimmypsn
Member since 2010 • 4425 Posts

Its funny every developer or publisher that I read interviews on or speak on twitter in private hates use games.  Every single one.  All hate piracy too but that's a given. 

 

One developer I spoke with stated he fvcking hates used games but he and his company has to put on a face to the public that they are against DRM and all for the gamer as a PR move. 

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#93 RR360DD
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And this is how MS will get money from used games. People get fooled so easily.

Chutebox

"Today, some gamers choose to sell their old disc-based games back for cash and credit. We designed Xbox One so game publishers can enable you to trade in your games at participating retailers.  Microsoft does not charge a platform fee to retailers, publishers, or consumers for enabling transfer of these games. "

"Third party publishers may opt in or out of supporting game resale and may set up business terms or transfer fees with retailers.  Microsoft does not receive any compensation as part of this."

Oh really? :P

I mean if this isn't proof publishers are the ones who have been putting on the pressure, I don't know what is ...

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#94 razu2444
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MS Fail. Lem Flem
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#95 blackace
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[QUOTE="-Damien-"]The Cartel of the Gaming Industry: - Microsoft, the leader of the pack - EA - Activision - GameStop http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngaudiosi/2013/06/07/gamestop-president-tony-bartel-promises-seamless-transition-of-xbox-one-used-game-sales/?partner=yahootix

OLD again. Another duplicate thread that can be LOCKED and DELETED.
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#96 blackace
Member since 2002 • 23576 Posts

[QUOTE="IshmaelSonata"]

has MS assembled Voltron yet?

timbers_WSU

Form feet and legs. Form arms and body. And I'll form the head! Then Sony pops into the picture....... "And I will form the penis!"

LOL!! Yeah, they already have enough fanboys bent over in this forum, so they might as well get ready.
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#97 percech
Member since 2011 • 5237 Posts

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

And this is how MS will get money from used games. People get fooled so easily.

RR360DD

"Today, some gamers choose to sell their old disc-based games back for cash and credit. We designed Xbox One so game publishers can enable you to trade in your games at participating retailers.  Microsoft does not charge a platform fee to retailers, publishers, or consumers for enabling transfer of these games. "

"Third party publishers may opt in or out of supporting game resale and may set up business terms or transfer fees with retailers.  Microsoft does not receive any compensation as part of this."

Oh really? :P

I mean if this isn't proof publishers are the ones who have been putting on the pressure, I don't know what is ...

All I need is for them to make a deal with Amazon and all the bitching done by the cows will be invalidated.
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#98 blackace
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Ever since Microsoft entered the console gaming industry they have been dragging it into the gutter.Sali217
The economy has been doing that all by itself. With millions out of work, you expect sales to still stay high? Sales are down for everyone. Even PC sales are down now. That has nothing to do with MS entering the gaming industry.
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#99 Jakandsigz
Member since 2013 • 6341 Posts

has MS assembled Voltron yet?

IshmaelSonata
They still need the left foot.
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#100 jimmypsn
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Ever since Microsoft entered the console gaming industry they have been dragging it into the gutter.Sali217
You couldn't be more wrong son. The economics of game development and market forces have brought gaming to where it is today. Games are getting too expensive to make. Piracy is still rampant. Used games bring little money to 90% of developers. Studios are closing down left and right. Companies are consolidating.