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Don't like it find a new hobby. Game are more expensive to make. People pirate all the time. Studios have been closing down left and right. They have to protect their investments.
Welcome to the real world. Being a whiny bitch does not help. They will survive without you. All your crying does is show everyone that you are a baby that can't deal with change and expects people to drop to your every needs.
I don't like it either but I have been gaming for so long I would not know how to live without it. I accept it.timbers_WSU
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Stupidity at it maximum level..
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I don't want the damn xbone,why in hell would i buy a weak,console that requires online,and block used games as we know them,and that also charge for online play,there is no way i am getting and xbox one and i know many feel this way,can't wait for E3,and see MS try to hide on clouds,there not storm that would save them from what is comming...
3 more days..
it pains me to say this, but sony just lost the war big time. :(
KarateeeChop
Why are you so butthurt?
[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]
it pains me to say this, but sony just lost the war big time. :(
DarthaPerkinjan
Why are you so butthurt?
i'm sad to see sony get bullied by ms like this. if only sony had the funds to compete. :(
If they weren't surviving with us (after all, studios have been closing down left and right), then how are they going to survive when people "find a new hobby"? This only became a problem because games are trash and/or these companies don't know how to manage their finances. That's not going to suddenly change. Games are still gonna be $hit and these companies are still gonna be pouring too much money into games. Only now there'll be fewer people buying them.Don't like it find a new hobby. Game are more expensive to make. People pirate all the time. Studios have been closing down left and right. They have to protect their investments.
timbers_WSU
Welcome to the real world. Being a whiny bitch does not help. They will survive without you. All your crying does is show everyone that you are a baby that can't deal with change and expects people to drop to your every needs.
I don't like it either but I have been gaming for so long I would not know how to live without it. I accept it.
This is just corporate brainwashing. The boss doesn't understand what he's doing, he hates anything that he can blame for lacking profits, and in turn everyone in the company starts believing that too.Its funny every developer or publisher that I read interviews on or speak on twitter in private hates use games. Every single one. All hate piracy too but that's a given.Â
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One developer I spoke with stated he fvcking hates used games but he and his company has to put on a face to the public that they are against DRM and all for the gamer as a PR move.Â
jimmypsn
Welcome to the real world. Being a whiny bitch does not help. All your crying does is show everyone that you are a baby that can't deal with change and expects people to drop to your every needs.timbers_WSU
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This will be my exact response towards Microsoft when people finally figure out how to crack the XBone and pirate the next Halo and Gears. :)
Don't like it find a new hobby. Game are more expensive to make. People pirate all the time. Studios have been closing down left and right. They have to protect their investments.
Welcome to the real world. Being a whiny bitch does not help. They will survive without you. All your crying does is show everyone that you are a baby that can't deal with change and expects people to drop to your every needs.
I don't like it either but I have been gaming for so long I would not know how to live without it. I accept it.timbers_WSU
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You don't have to find a new hobby because you don't like this practice. You can just regress into the 40 years of games that didn't have DRM restriction. There is also the PC, Wii-U, 3DS, and possibly PS4 to turn to.
[QUOTE="Chutebox"]
And this is how MS will get money from used games. People get fooled so easily.
RR360DD
"Today, some gamers choose to sell their old disc-based games back for cash and credit. We designed Xbox One so game publishers can enable you to trade in your games at participating retailers. Microsoft does not charge a platform fee to retailers, publishers, or consumers for enabling transfer of these games. "
"Third party publishers may opt in or out of supporting game resale and may set up business terms or transfer fees with retailers. Microsoft does not receive any compensation as part of this."
Oh really? :P
I mean if this isn't proof publishers are the ones who have been putting on the pressure, I don't know what is ...
Does that include joining the program itself?[QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]
And this is how MS will get money from used games. People get fooled so easily.
percech
"Today, some gamers choose to sell their old disc-based games back for cash and credit. We designed Xbox One so game publishers can enable you to trade in your games at participating retailers. Microsoft does not charge a platform fee to retailers, publishers, or consumers for enabling transfer of these games. "
"Third party publishers may opt in or out of supporting game resale and may set up business terms or transfer fees with retailers. Microsoft does not receive any compensation as part of this."
Oh really? :P
I mean if this isn't proof publishers are the ones who have been putting on the pressure, I don't know what is ...
All I need is for them to make a deal with Amazon and all the bitching done by the cows will be invalidated. Most used dales on amazon arent sold by amazon.The irony is he is sitting there crying like a straight bitch all the while telling us to stop being whiny bitches.[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]
[QUOTE="clyde46"] This is the problem we have. As soon as someone raises some questions they get screamed at. Krelian-co
just look at this post, its obvious hes a moron that when someone does something he doesnt like, just like people calling out ms bs he will use a ridiculous hyperbole that magically doesn't apply to him. He thinks getting ripped off is somehow synonim of having money.
DONT YOU DARE TALK ABOUT TIMBERS, DWEEB. HE'S RIGHT. THE WORLD IS CHANGING. TOP CRYING OVER IT OR FIND A NEW HOBBY THAT CATERS TO YOUR AINTIQUATED DEMANDS. It's unfair that great companies like THQ were forced to be shut down because of people like you.[QUOTE="Krelian-co"][QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]The irony is he is sitting there crying like a straight bitch all the while telling us to stop being whiny bitches.
XboxStache
just look at this post, its obvious hes a moron that when someone does something he doesnt like, just like people calling out ms bs he will use a ridiculous hyperbole that magically doesn't apply to him. He thinks getting ripped off is somehow synonim of having money.
DONT YOU DARE TALK ABOUT TIMBERS, DWEEB. HE'S RIGHT. THE WORLD IS CHANGING. TOP CRYING OVER IT OR FIND A NEW HOBBY THAT CATERS TO YOUR AINTIQUATED DEMANDS. It's unfair that great companies like THQ were forced to be shut down because of people like you.:lol: 7/10
Don't like it find a new hobby. Game are more expensive to make. People pirate all the time. Studios have been closing down left and right. They have to protect their investments.
Welcome to the real world. Being a whiny bitch does not help. They will survive without you. All your crying does is show everyone that you are a baby that can't deal with change and expects people to drop to your every needs.
I don't like it either but I have been gaming for so long I would not know how to live without it. I accept it.timbers_WSU
sheep of society right here folks ^^^ Fvck consumer rights!
Gaming is a business, sure and as any modest business they must catter consumer attention through inovation, not cheap tactics that only exist to hurt consumer right. If they want profit give us value for their product. As every business it can thrive and it can fail. Thats how "business" works. That gives them no reason to fvck honest consumers.
poeple like you are the cancer of gaming
[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]
Don't like it find a new hobby. Game are more expensive to make. People pirate all the time. Studios have been closing down left and right. They have to protect their investments.
Welcome to the real world. Being a whiny bitch does not help. They will survive without you. All your crying does is show everyone that you are a baby that can't deal with change and expects people to drop to your every needs.
I don't like it either but I have been gaming for so long I would not know how to live without it. I accept it.Vatusus
sheep of society right here folks ^^^ Fvck consumer rights!
Gaming is a business, sure and as any modest business they must catter consumer attention through inovation, not cheap tactics that only exist to hurt consumer right. If they want profit give us value for their product. As every business it can thrive and it can fail. Thats how "business" works. That gives them no reason to fvck honest consumers.
poeple like you are the cancer of gaming
But you have the right to rip off third party by purchasing "used" games which were already purchased at some point? While I don't totally agree with anti-used games, I also don't agree that Devs should volunteer to be raped courtesy of people like you who've probably not bought a new game once this gen. Not once. All the games I've ever purchased are still owned. And then you have a few million nutcases who march back to Gamestop and get a full refund only for a new game to be resold. It's unfair and it's unethical. That's the cancer of gaming; and it's why devs have been crapping out terrible games with 6 hour campaigns this entire gen. Because of people like you and all the pirates behind you. You're not qualified to call Timbers any name, doofus.The Xbox One is in serious trouble... this might help a little bit, however I still don't think it will fly. Microsoft has already damaged their reputation with all the negativity surrounding them. I seriously hope this shit never takes effect or isn't a hit. The policies surrounding it still suck... it has nothing to do with "changing with the times" that is utter ignorance. It is about not bending to the BS!!! The times do not HAVE to change, that is what these piss ants at Microsoft and other companies say and some consumers are like... "oh well it must be true then." Microsoft lost the HD format war, and I think they will lose this war too... however, this one is much bigger. Like a couple others said, if Microsoft wins.. you can kiss gaming as we know it goodbye.
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[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]
Welcome to the real world. Being a whiny bitch does not help. All your crying does is show everyone that you are a baby that can't deal with change and expects people to drop to your every needs.V3rciS
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This will be my exact response towards Microsoft when people finally figure out how to crack the XBone and pirate the next Halo and Gears. :)
Look @ this drama queen. All they gotta do is come up with a similar deal with Amazon and a few other retailers and suddenly nobody will give a shit.The Xbox One is in serious trouble... this might help a little bit, however I still don't think it will fly. Microsoft has already damaged their reputation with all the negativity surrounding them. I seriously hope this shit never takes effect or isn't a hit. The policies surrounding it still suck... it has nothing to do with "changing with the times" that is utter ignorance. It is about not bending to the BS!!! The times do not HAVE to change, that is what these piss ants at Microsoft and other companies say and some consumers are like... "oh well it must be true then." Microsoft lost the HD format war, and I think they will lose this war too... however, this one is much bigger. Like a couple others said, if Microsoft wins.. you can kiss gaming as we know it goodbye.
WitIsWisdom
[QUOTE="WitIsWisdom"]Look @ this drama queen. All they gotta do is come up with a similar deal with Amazon and a few other retailers and suddenly nobody will give a shit. Again, most of the used sales on amazon are individuals out of home or individual stores.The Xbox One is in serious trouble... this might help a little bit, however I still don't think it will fly. Microsoft has already damaged their reputation with all the negativity surrounding them. I seriously hope this shit never takes effect or isn't a hit. The policies surrounding it still suck... it has nothing to do with "changing with the times" that is utter ignorance. It is about not bending to the BS!!! The times do not HAVE to change, that is what these piss ants at Microsoft and other companies say and some consumers are like... "oh well it must be true then." Microsoft lost the HD format war, and I think they will lose this war too... however, this one is much bigger. Like a couple others said, if Microsoft wins.. you can kiss gaming as we know it goodbye.
percech
[QUOTE="Vatusus"][QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]
Don't like it find a new hobby. Game are more expensive to make. People pirate all the time. Studios have been closing down left and right. They have to protect their investments.
Welcome to the real world. Being a whiny bitch does not help. They will survive without you. All your crying does is show everyone that you are a baby that can't deal with change and expects people to drop to your every needs.
I don't like it either but I have been gaming for so long I would not know how to live without it. I accept it.XboxStache
sheep of society right here folks ^^^ Fvck consumer rights!
Gaming is a business, sure and as any modest business they must catter consumer attention through inovation, not cheap tactics that only exist to hurt consumer right. If they want profit give us value for their product. As every business it can thrive and it can fail. Thats how "business" works. That gives them no reason to fvck honest consumers.
poeple like you are the cancer of gaming
But you have the right to rip off third party by purchasing "used" games which were already purchased at some point? While I don't totally agree with anti-used games, I also don't agree that Devs should volunteer to be raped courtesy of people like you who've probably not bought a new game once this gen. Not once. All the games I've ever purchased are still owned. And then you have a few million nutcases who march back to Gamestop and get a full refund only for a new game to be resold. It's unfair and it's unethical. That's the cancer of gaming; and it's why devs have been crapping out terrible games with 6 hour campaigns this entire gen. Because of people like you and all the pirates behind you. You're not qualified to call Timbers any name, doofus.1. Yes, I've that right. Dont you have the right to buy a used car? a used book? a used DVD? so why exactly are games diferent? Someone bought it, they gave their money. People should be able to do with the product they bought whatever they pleased.
2. No, you're wrong. Dont make assumptions taken out of your a**. Most games I bought this gen were new. However I sold the ones I didnt like and kept the ones I liked. So, if I dont like a game must I be stuck with it forever?
You're an idiot
[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]
Don't like it find a new hobby. Game are more expensive to make. People pirate all the time. Studios have been closing down left and right. They have to protect their investments.
Welcome to the real world. Being a whiny bitch does not help. They will survive without you. All your crying does is show everyone that you are a baby that can't deal with change and expects people to drop to your every needs.
I don't like it either but I have been gaming for so long I would not know how to live without it. I accept it.Krelian-co
thats why steam and gog do well in business.
One is easy to pirate and the other doesnt even have drm. Keep hiding behind pirating to protect microsoft. All you do is show how much an idiot you are.
Yah he doesn't seem to understand that if you offer a good service that is easy to use then people will support it.
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[QUOTE="Vatusus"][QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]
Don't like it find a new hobby. Game are more expensive to make. People pirate all the time. Studios have been closing down left and right. They have to protect their investments.
Welcome to the real world. Being a whiny bitch does not help. They will survive without you. All your crying does is show everyone that you are a baby that can't deal with change and expects people to drop to your every needs.
I don't like it either but I have been gaming for so long I would not know how to live without it. I accept it.XboxStache
sheep of society right here folks ^^^ Fvck consumer rights!
Gaming is a business, sure and as any modest business they must catter consumer attention through inovation, not cheap tactics that only exist to hurt consumer right. If they want profit give us value for their product. As every business it can thrive and it can fail. Thats how "business" works. That gives them no reason to fvck honest consumers.
poeple like you are the cancer of gaming
But you have the right to rip off third party by purchasing "used" games which were already purchased at some point? While I don't totally agree with anti-used games, I also don't agree that Devs should volunteer to be raped courtesy of people like you who've probably not bought a new game once this gen. Not once. All the games I've ever purchased are still owned. And then you have a few million nutcases who march back to Gamestop and get a full refund only for a new game to be resold. It's unfair and it's unethical. That's the cancer of gaming; and it's why devs have been crapping out terrible games with 6 hour campaigns this entire gen. Because of people like you and all the pirates behind you. You're not qualified to call Timbers any name, doofus. Devs have been pumping out 6 hour campaigns for many years. The only reason those games seemed longer was because of constant load times and CGI cut scenes that now tell the story in real time.Wow let the Lemmings Keep Xbone. Just look at the freaks in this thread with their subhuman level of reasoning. It will be great to have them all on Xbone like some forbidden island for the braindead. Let them have it.Â
All we can do is hope that there are not alot of people as dumb as timbers out there.
NathanDrakeSwag
[QUOTE="WitIsWisdom"]Look @ this drama queen. All they gotta do is come up with a similar deal with Amazon and a few other retailers and suddenly nobody will give a shit. Amen. I'm a core gamer for the last 18 years, and a grown man with a family. But gaming is still my hobby, albeit my favorite. Some of you act as if this is the biggest thing ever, or that the world is caving in and gaming will suddenly go away. Newsflash, its the game system companies, developers, and publishers who make the games and provide the systems that want this change. MS is a easy target and they relish the role of villain as they have been cast that way for well over a decade. But if you look closely you'll see everyone is in on this. Sony's utter silence speaks volumes. The big name publishers silence speaks volumes. I'll be happily gaming with my family next year on Xbox, watching NFL, and then trading in games just like I used to when I get tired of them. I have a internet connection that if it did go out for a day due to a outage or something from my provider, well damn I have a life and can spend a day away from a damn video game. Jesus, lol. When the Xbox One is introduced and people get used to the new rules the world will keep on spinning, games will be released, people will continue to bitch and moan online and in blogs and YouTube videos. And the gaming industry and culture, like all industries and cultures, will continue to evolve and grow. Ive been around long enough to see the evolution of computers, cell phones, tablets. Everything is connected and data is being captured and you are being watched. Period, end of story. Stop acting like Xbox One is Skynet, lol.The Xbox One is in serious trouble... this might help a little bit, however I still don't think it will fly. Microsoft has already damaged their reputation with all the negativity surrounding them. I seriously hope this shit never takes effect or isn't a hit. The policies surrounding it still suck... it has nothing to do with "changing with the times" that is utter ignorance. It is about not bending to the BS!!! The times do not HAVE to change, that is what these piss ants at Microsoft and other companies say and some consumers are like... "oh well it must be true then." Microsoft lost the HD format war, and I think they will lose this war too... however, this one is much bigger. Like a couple others said, if Microsoft wins.. you can kiss gaming as we know it goodbye.
percech
Such an ignorant, simple-minded reply. Rather than debate your stance on the issues you choose to compare people that think or see something differently than you as a subhuman. What this reveals is your own tiny-minded, naive, immature lack of character and the ability to have a conversation. In other words, you're dumb.Wow let the Lemmings Keep Xbone. Just look at the freaks in this thread with their subhuman level of reasoning. It will be great to have them all on Xbone like some forbidden island for the braindead. Let them have it.Â
Pray_to_me
[QUOTE="XboxStache"][QUOTE="Vatusus"]But you have the right to rip off third party by purchasing "used" games which were already purchased at some point? While I don't totally agree with anti-used games, I also don't agree that Devs should volunteer to be raped courtesy of people like you who've probably not bought a new game once this gen. Not once. All the games I've ever purchased are still owned. And then you have a few million nutcases who march back to Gamestop and get a full refund only for a new game to be resold. It's unfair and it's unethical. That's the cancer of gaming; and it's why devs have been crapping out terrible games with 6 hour campaigns this entire gen. Because of people like you and all the pirates behind you. You're not qualified to call Timbers any name, doofus. Devs have been pumping out 6 hour campaigns for many years. The only reason those games seemed longer was because of constant load times and CGI cut scenes that now tell the story in real time. So damn true, sadly enough.sheep of society right here folks ^^^ Fvck consumer rights!
Gaming is a business, sure and as any modest business they must catter consumer attention through inovation, not cheap tactics that only exist to hurt consumer right. If they want profit give us value for their product. As every business it can thrive and it can fail. Thats how "business" works. That gives them no reason to fvck honest consumers.
poeple like you are the cancer of gaming
Murderstyle75
Don't like it find a new hobby. Game are more expensive to make. People pirate all the time. Studios have been closing down left and right. They have to protect their investments.
Welcome to the real world. Being a whiny bitch does not help. They will survive without you. All your crying does is show everyone that you are a baby that can't deal with change and expects people to drop to your every needs.
I don't like it either but I have been gaming for so long I would not know how to live without it. I accept it.timbers_WSU
You are an idiot! Through and through. You're probably the kind of person that would tell someone that has a brother dying of cancer "Deal with it, life sucks everyone dies". Instead of keeping your stupid mouth shut or being nice about it.Â
[QUOTE="Pray_to_me"]Such an ignorant, simple-minded reply. Rather than debate your stance on the issues you choose to compare people that think or see something differently than you as a subhuman. What this reveals is your own tiny-minded, naive, immature lack of character and the ability to have a conversation. In other words, you're dumb.Wow let the Lemmings Keep Xbone. Just look at the freaks in this thread with their subhuman level of reasoning. It will be great to have them all on Xbone like some forbidden island for the braindead. Let them have it.Â
shawn30
No he's right. Everything MS does Xfans excuse away and act like everyone should just accept it and feed that greedy idiotic company.:roll:
Such an ignorant, simple-minded reply. Rather than debate your stance on the issues you choose to compare people that think or see something differently than you as a subhuman. What this reveals is your own tiny-minded, naive, immature lack of character and the ability to have a conversation. In other words, you're dumb.[QUOTE="shawn30"][QUOTE="Pray_to_me"]
Wow let the Lemmings Keep Xbone. Just look at the freaks in this thread with their subhuman level of reasoning. It will be great to have them all on Xbone like some forbidden island for the braindead. Let them have it.Â
clr84651
No he's right. Everything MS does Xfans excuse away and act like everyone should just accept it and feed that greedy idiotic company.:roll:
He is right however this is also a two way street. Rewind seven years and you will find that similar excuses were made for Sony.[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]
Welcome to the real world. Being a whiny bitch does not help. All your crying does is show everyone that you are a baby that can't deal with change and expects people to drop to your every needs.Kandlegoat
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This will be my exact response towards Microsoft when people finally figure out how to crack the XBone and pirate the next Halo and Gears. :)
Hackers will hack any and everything, so expect Sony and Nintendo to deal with this as well as every other tech company that sells a product with an OS of any kind. Any and everything eventually will be hacked. Look at PSN.... :)[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="clr84651"]He is right however this is also a two way street. Rewind seven years and you will find that similar excuses were made for Sony. I'll only say this. I have had a few online conversations debates with people who feel very differently than I do about the Xbox policies and the industry wanted DRM,. I don't think they are dumb or naive or just caught up in the internet firestorm as they can present their case and reasons why without sounding like a retard, and respect my views as being different. Im not trying to sell the Xbox One to anyone. I'm only discussing the policies and talking about why I want one. I get that but at the same time, people generally seem to be biased towards the platform they already own. Ive even been guilty of it in the past. I think everybody has. While I'm not accusing you per say, many of the things that Microsoft is doing that's being defended by Xbox fans would very easily be flame bait if these were Sony policies instead.No he's right. Everything MS does Xfans excuse away and act like everyone should just accept it and feed that greedy idiotic company.:roll:
shawn30
WTF do you people expect. These are businesses. They are not in the business of charity. The entire ecosystem of xbox/playstation is designed to extract as much money as possible from the buyer. It has been so obvious that this was coming- look back at the last 8 years - DLC/MICROTRANSACTION/LIVE fees/online pass/avatars/10bucks to change your Screen Name etc... They probably made a million bucks from people changing their sn. Numbers dont lie folks.
Difference is, they are businesses in a "Free" market. These are socialist acts that stomp all over consumers rightsWTF do you people expect. These are businesses. They are not in the business of charity. The entire ecosystem of xbox/playstation is designed to extract as much money as possible from the buyer. It has been so obvious that this was coming- look back at the last 8 years - DLC/MICROTRANSACTION/LIVE fees/online pass/avatars/10bucks to change your Screen Name etc... They probably made a million bucks from people changing their sn. Numbers dont lie folks.
consoletroll
[QUOTE="Krelian-co"][QUOTE="SunnyLollipop"]
YUP! MS have won this gen. give it up $ony defen$e for$e
AmazonTreeBoa
won what idiot? his war against gamers?
if they win we lose.
Welcome to SW where most gnats are way too stupid to grasp that. I guess CD Keys, Steam and DRM killed PC gamers off? you melodramatic numpties. "oh to the noes, sharing games is now limited.... however will I live with my hobby now?" bwhahahahaha.[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="Krelian-co"]Welcome to SW where most gnats are way too stupid to grasp that. I guess CD Keys, Steam and DRM killed PC gamers off? you melodramatic numpties. "oh to the noes, sharing games is now limited.... however will I live with my hobby now?" bwhahahahaha. And look at how Steam operates. Steam is so successful because you can get your games for almost nothing to begin with. When you are spending $60 on a title however, you expect to have full control over your property. Both L4D games with full DLC for $7.49? Not too concerned about the DRM. If the PC market operated like the console market though? There would definitely be a struggle.won what idiot? his war against gamers?
if they win we lose.
MBirdy88
Wow let the Lemmings Keep Xbone. Just look at the freaks in this thread with their subhuman level of reasoning. It will be great to have them all on Xbone like some forbidden island for the braindead. Let them have it.Â
Pray_to_me
You are one sad individual, there's fanboyism and playful jabs then there's the shite you're coming out with. :roll:
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