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#1 velocity99
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I am really not satisfied with how gears 2 looks. I have gears on the PC and i run it maxed out on an HD resolution and it looks great. I just wanted to get that out of the way first, gears still looks great and always will, all i'm saying is that the graphics are no longer a high point. Before i saw the gameplay footage, i saw the upgrades to the UE3 engine and i thought they would serve well in making it look up to date. Like that new shading technique looked like the improvement it needed. I wasn't very happy when i saw that it either had no effect or wasn't actually implemented in the new game play footage. I noticed that the engine still renders the transitions from dark areas lighter areas terribly. When i saw the big truck leave the shadow of the mountain, the whole model suddenly became lighter and flushed looking. Also on the list is that while they have a lot of enemies on screen at once, this is purely for cinematic purposes, as you can't harm any of them. There still seemed to be the small amount of enemies to interact with, not that that's a bad thing. The physics and destructible environments look promising, but i really hope that the gameplay footage was running on an older build of the engine.
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#2 justforlotr2004
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Gears PC vs Gears 2

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#3 velocity99
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Gears PC vs Gears 2

justforlotr2004

The model was updated? It doesn't look fundamentally better.

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#4 justforlotr2004
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[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]

Gears PC vs Gears 2

velocity99

The model was updated? It doesn't look fundamentally better.

... one uses flat 2d chains while the other uses modeled 3d chains.

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#5 velocity99
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[QUOTE="velocity99"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]

Gears PC vs Gears 2

justforlotr2004

The model was updated? It doesn't look fundamentally better.

... one uses flat 2d chains while the other uses modeled 3d chains.

This is an expected upgrade. In general, the game looks dated though.

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#6 justforlotr2004
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This is an expected upgrade. In general, the game looks dated though.

velocity99

That type of detail is all over the game now so I dont know what you are talking about.

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#7 MTBare
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LOL@this thread
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#8 velocity99
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[QUOTE="velocity99"]

This is an expected upgrade. In general, the game looks dated though.

justforlotr2004

That type of detail is all over the game now so I dont know what you are talking about.

How many times do i have to say it? Despite new details, it still looks very much like gears 1 in general, which is in my opinion, a little dated by this time.

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#9 ganon546
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I got to disagree with that. Gears 2 is looking pretty darn good IMO.
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#10 justforlotr2004
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[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="velocity99"]

This is an expected upgrade. In general, the game looks dated though.

velocity99

That type of detail is all over the game now so I dont know what you are talking about.

How many times do i have to say it? Despite new details, it still looks very much like gears 1 in general, which is in my opinion, a little dated by this time.

So you're saying the art style is dated? Cause other than that you got no argument.

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#11 rolo107
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[QUOTE="velocity99"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="velocity99"]

This is an expected upgrade. In general, the game looks dated though.

justforlotr2004

That type of detail is all over the game now so I dont know what you are talking about.

How many times do i have to say it? Despite new details, it still looks very much like gears 1 in general, which is in my opinion, a little dated by this time.

So you're saying the art style is dated? Cause other than that you got no argument.

QFT.

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#12 justforlotr2004
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Character model's with this kind of detail is far from dated.

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#13 velocity99
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[QUOTE="velocity99"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="velocity99"]

So you're saying the art style is dated? Cause other than that you got no argument.

justforlotr2004

What i'm saying is that the graphics, if you don't consider adding chains to the new Brumak model, look too similar to the game released in 2006. It's sort of how the source engine looks good, but is starting to show it's age.

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#14 Pro_wrestler
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Gears PC vs Gears 2

justforlotr2004

Wow, the fastest "/thread" I have ever seen :shock:

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#15 hyperboy152000
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it looks like there is nowhere near as much aliasing as the first one (360 version ofcourse)

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#16 demon565
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Character model's with this kind of detail is far from dated.

justforlotr2004

It doesnt look dated it still looks better than 97% of the games out right now. The game did improve graphics wise.

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#17 Zeliard9
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Gears 2 is gonna be good times.

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#18 justforlotr2004
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[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="velocity99"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="velocity99"]

So you're saying the art style is dated? Cause other than that you got no argument.

velocity99

What i'm saying is that the graphics, if you don't consider adding chains to the new Brumak model, look too similar to the game released in 2006. It's sort of how the source engine looks good, but is starting to show it's age.

It looks just like Gears in 2006 because it has the same art direction and somewhat same settings, not because its getting less detail or up to date rendering techniques.

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#19 Veterngamer
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Gears 2 looks much better than Gears 1.... get over it.... are you a Cow or Hermit? I'm guessing Hermit... cuz you seem to be trying to say that Gears 2 on 360 doesnt look any better or as good as the original Gears on the PC.....

go away plz Troll.

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#20 istreakforfood
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[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]

Gears PC vs Gears 2

Pro_wrestler

Wow, the fastest "/thread" I have ever seen :shock:

yea seriously.
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#21 Pro_wrestler
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it looks like there is nowhere near as much aliasing as the first one (360 version ofcourse)

hyperboy152000

Unral Engine 3.0 doesn't support anti-aliasing. The jaggies in GEOW are supplemented with motion blur.

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#22 Not-A-Stalker
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Character model's with this kind of detail is far from dated.

justforlotr2004

Oh my god... Flawless...

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#23 wklzip
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Gears PC vs Gears 2

justforlotr2004

HUGE improvement

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#25 velocity99
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So's your mom, but you don't hear me complaining.Relys

I believe i said "Gears 2 not looking so hot", which i assume you wanted to reply "Neither does your mom.". Good try though, A for effort.

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#27 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="hyperboy152000"]

it looks like there is nowhere near as much aliasing as the first one (360 version ofcourse)

Pro_wrestler

Unral Engine 3.0 doesn't support anti-aliasing. The jaggies in GEOW are supplemented with motion blur.

Gears of war PC did support AA on DX10 mode.

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[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]

Gears PC vs Gears 2

istreakforfood

Wow, the fastest "/thread" I have ever seen :shock:

yea seriously.

I'm just going to have to add to that :)

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#29 Pro_wrestler
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[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"][QUOTE="hyperboy152000"]

it looks like there is nowhere near as much aliasing as the first one (360 version ofcourse)

Bebi_vegeta

Unral Engine 3.0 doesn't support anti-aliasing. The jaggies in GEOW are supplemented with motion blur.

Gears of war PC did support AA on DX10 mode.

Yeah, even for DX10 the max you could choose was 4xAA and it wasn't supported for DX9 at all. Something to do with the rendering techniques of the UE3.

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#30 Relys
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[QUOTE="Relys"]So's your mom, but you don't hear me complaining.velocity99

I believe i said "Gears 2 not looking so hot", which i assume you wanted to reply "Neither does your mom.". Good try though, A for effort.

Thanks for the heads up. :D

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#31 VirtuaCast
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So's your mom, but you don't hear me complaining.Relys

I usually don't laugh at that type of stuff, but your comment really got me going. :lol:

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#32 Zeliard9
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I posted this a while back.

Gears of War PC, maxed out, vibrant setting on:

Gears of War 2:

There's clearly been a huge upgrade in lighting, among other things (models are much more detailed).

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#33 Bebi_vegeta
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Well i'll say this... i'm impressed with the graphic improvement so far on the 360 for gears, it might not be a whole new level but it still makes the game look better.
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#34 Relys
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[QUOTE="Relys"]So's your mom, but you don't hear me complaining.VirtuaCast

I usually don't laugh at that type of stuff, but your comment really got me going. :lol:

Thanks, I did it for "teh lulz". I wasn't actually serious. (I don't people to think I'm coming off as a jerk).

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You do realise in Gears 2 there will be about a million locusts vs Gears 1's like 5 on one screen...
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You do realise in Gears 2 there will be about a million locusts vs Gears 1's like 5 on one screen...insanejedi

Now that I'd like to see a picture!

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[QUOTE="insanejedi"]You do realise in Gears 2 there will be about a million locusts vs Gears 1's like 5 on one screen...Bebi_vegeta

Now that I'd like to see a picture!

Not a million.. But yes, there will be 10x the ammount. (From what I hear).

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#38 o0phantom0o
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gears2 isnt JUST about the graphics.

an besides, i dont see anything wrong if they used gears1 graphics...i think they still hold out great.

any improvement(graphical) comes out as a bonus.

and yes, the source engine does look dated now, but i would'nt say that for the unreal3 engine

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[QUOTE="insanejedi"]You do realise in Gears 2 there will be about a million locusts vs Gears 1's like 5 on one screen...Bebi_vegeta

Now that I'd like to see a picture!

Heres level 1 on casual.

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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="insanejedi"]You do realise in Gears 2 there will be about a million locusts vs Gears 1's like 5 on one screen...justforlotr2004

Now that I'd like to see a picture!

Heres level 1 on casual.

Sweet!! Now show us that level on Insane difficulty :D

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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="insanejedi"]You do realise in Gears 2 there will be about a million locusts vs Gears 1's like 5 on one screen...justforlotr2004

Now that I'd like to see a picture!

Heres level 1 on casual.

Why is there a naked emblum of a human women on an alien space craft?... Nevermind, I don't want to know.

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#42 justforlotr2004
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[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="insanejedi"]You do realise in Gears 2 there will be about a million locusts vs Gears 1's like 5 on one screen...AdobeArtist

Now that I'd like to see a picture!

Heres level 1 on casual.

Sweet!! Now show us that level on Insane difficulty :D

lol no thanks Im too lazy.

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[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]

Gears PC vs Gears 2

istreakforfood

Wow, the fastest "/thread" I have ever seen :shock:

yea seriously.

Are you fanboys serious?The chains not being 3D in the first one was out of pure lazyness, also, the model in Gears 2 lacks the spikes and all the other features of the model shown in the first, it's just a plain white creature with chains and veins, call that improvement?

Also, Gears looks better than 97% of games yea, but it's also more linear and simplistic than 97% of games, if 97% of games were confined to a small series of boxes with animated backgrounds moving from point a to b, then they would look on par if not better than Gears.

Fanboys gawk all over the game, but all it really has going for it is fun simplistic gory gameplay and great graphics.Any developer can achieve that with the constraints Gears contains...not to mention Killzone 2 looks superior to Gears 2 and offers allot more widened enviorments...

Face it fanboys, Gears is showing its age, it was on top, but not forever, still an amazing looking game nonetherless, bjut overall any game could achieve that...

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[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]

Gears PC vs Gears 2

istreakforfood

Wow, the fastest "/thread" I have ever seen :shock:

yea seriously.

lmao justforlotr2004 owned tc. Gears 2 looks pretty damn phenomenal I mean it's not a huge overhaul but who needs an overhaul when the first game held the console graphics crown till Uncharted. I think Killzone 2 looks better then Gears 2 in my opinion though.

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[QUOTE="istreakforfood"][QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]

Gears PC vs Gears 2

John_Keyes

Wow, the fastest "/thread" I have ever seen :shock:

yea seriously.

Are you fanboys serious?The chains not being 3D in the first one was out of pure lazyness, also, the model in Gears 2 lacks the spikes and all the other features of the model shown in the first, it's just a plain white creature with chains and veins, call that improvement?

Also, Gears looks better than 97% of games yea, but it's also more linear and simplistic than 97% of games, if 97% of games were confined to a small series of boxes with animated backgrounds moving from point a to b, then they would look on par if not better than Gears.

Fanboys gawk all over the game, but all it really has going for it is fun simplistic gory gameplay and great graphics.Any developer can achieve that with the constraints Gears contains...not to mention Killzone 2 looks superior to Gears 2 and offers allot more widened enviorments...

Face it fanboys, Gears is showing its age, it was on top, but not forever, still an amazing looking game nonetherless, bjut overall any game could achieve that...

And 97% of real gamers know improvements from a predecessor, as well as fun and addictive gameplay (Gears 1 had a huge online multiplayer base) when the evidence is preseneted to them. Too bad you fall into that other 3% :)

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#46 justforlotr2004
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[QUOTE="istreakforfood"][QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"][QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]

Gears PC vs Gears 2

John_Keyes

Wow, the fastest "/thread" I have ever seen :shock:

yea seriously.

Are you fanboys serious?The chains not being 3D in the first one was out of pure lazyness, also, the model in Gears 2 lacks the spikes and all the other features of the model shown in the first, it's just a plain white creature with chains and veins, call that improvement?

Also, Gears looks better than 97% of games yea, but it's also more linear and simplistic than 97% of games, if 97% of games were confined to a small series of boxes with animated backgrounds moving from point a to b, then they would look on par if not better than Gears.

Fanboys gawk all over the game, but all it really has going for it is fun simplistic gory gameplay and great graphics.Any developer can achieve that with the constraints Gears contains...not to mention Killzone 2 looks superior to Gears 2 and offers allot more widened enviorments...

Face it fanboys, Gears is showing its age, it was on top, but not forever, still an amazing looking game nonetherless, bjut overall any game could achieve that...

Incase you didn't notice theres different types of armor on them which is why the spikes are not there; and dispite wheither its lazyness or not on the chains it IS more detailed so I fail to see the point in saying that. Im not even going to comment on the "Linear and simplistic" part since I dont want to seem like a fool like you. You nor I have seen other eviroments or levels to decide such claims. To be honest I would love for you to show me Killzone 2's WIDE open battlefields because from what Ive followed I have yet to see anything that says there is.

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[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="insanejedi"]You do realise in Gears 2 there will be about a million locusts vs Gears 1's like 5 on one screen...Relys

Now that I'd like to see a picture!

Heres level 1 on casual.

Why is there a naked emblum of a human women on an alien space craft?... Nevermind, I don't want to know.

You silly goose! That's a COG Derrick that has been taken over by Locust.

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#48 justforlotr2004
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This shot really shows off the new lighting and more vibrant colour palate. I liked it so much that I made a sig out of it as you can see. :P

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Gears PC vs Gears 2

justforlotr2004
so they remodeled the brumak...why not take comparision shots ov everything else?
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#50 justforlotr2004
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[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"]

Gears PC vs Gears 2

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so they remodeled the brumak...why not take comparision shots ov everything else?

Because that is one of the easiest comparisons I could make due to the lack of content relased.