God of War 3 -- How did this game get a 9.0?

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#51 UncleLukex
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Because PS3 exclusives are probably being judged by PS3 standerds now. After Uncharted 2 it's really going to be hard for PS3 exclusives specifically to be rated highly because people have this unrealistic expectation for it's games now.

I really don't think GS is judging PS3 and xbox360 by the same standards anymore, I think the expectation for PS3 exclusives are higher because it's the PS3 exclusives that have been pushing the boundries for console games this gen so far.

just look at Halo OSDT and Killzone 2 both came out last year scored 9.0...even tho KZ2 was out eairly had 32 player online, standard setting lighting system, innovative componets to the online, avanced phycis system and the best graphics to ever be seenon consoles...a games like OSDT, basically an expansion for a game from 2007 with no advancements in anything scored the same thing on xbox360...a game like OSDT wouldn't score AAA on PS3 or anywhere close, mutiplat maybe but exclusive not a chance.

When the first muitiplayer FPSconsole game to have 256 players ever can't even get AAA (dedicated servers no lag)you know something's up.

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#52 BPoole96
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The ending.

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Please tell me in a spoiler tag what actually happened in the end and how it related to the other games. It's annoying when people say the ending was bad when they didn't understand it

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#53 lafiro93
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Seriously, after playing this game, it deserves atleast a 9.5. This game was utter and complete perfection. Everything about this game was high caliber. The graphics, the presentation, the voice acting, the sound, the story...this game was just top notch. I just finished beating the game and I'm still foaming at the mouth from the sheer awesomeness I just experienced. And it's borderline insulting to give this game the same score as Bayonetta! (Awaits Bayonetta lovers :P )

Seriously though, this game is definitely my top runner for GOTY 2010. had it come out last year, I would vote for this game 100x over Uncharted 2 and Demon's Souls for GOTY. What were your thoughts about the game?

P.S. GoW3 is better than Bayonetta, Ninja Gaiden 2, Dante's Inferno, DMC4, and Halo 3! And it has better graphics than Crysis! You know I had to add in Halo 3 and Crysis or this wouldn't be a proper SW topic :P

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I bet you havent played any of those games and you dont even have a 360:evil:

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#54 Animal-Mother
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Man are the "it really deserves" threads a new fad?

Game got a 9.0

Not even wonder woman can change that

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#55 clone01
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Seriously, after playing this game, it deserves atleast a 9.5. This game was utter and complete perfection. Everything about this game was high caliber. The graphics, the presentation, the voice acting, the sound, the story...this game was just top notch. I just finished beating the game and I'm still foaming at the mouth from the sheer awesomeness I just experienced. And it's borderline insulting to give this game the same score as Bayonetta! (Awaits Bayonetta lovers :P )

Seriously though, this game is definitely my top runner for GOTY 2010. had it come out last year, I would vote for this game 100x over Uncharted 2 and Demon's Souls for GOTY. What were your thoughts about the game?

P.S. GoW3 is better than Bayonetta, Ninja Gaiden 2, Dante's Inferno, DMC4, and Halo 3! And it has better graphics than Crysis! You know I had to add in Halo 3 and Crysis or this wouldn't be a proper SW topic :P

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eh, i think it got a good score...9.0 seemed about right to me. i really appreciate the scale of the game, and it has stellar graphics. one of the things that i didn't like about it was some of the combat sequences ***SLIGHT SPOILERS BELOW*** 1. the waves of armored cyclops in the caverns realllly ticked me off. i think it would have been better with a mini checkpoint 2. the stupid hammer guys in the labrynth that have like...a 20 foot reach. and you can't pick them off from the distance either...got to keep hitting them so they heat up. 3. the rotating floor with the spikes drove me nuts. i'm a little ashamed to admit it, but i actually had to crank down to easy difficulty. its not that i couldn't have eventually beat a couple later combat seqs in the game, i just got weary of playing the same section over and over again. also, i felt that the best two bosses were very early in the game. some of the other bosses were kind of lacking, imo. ***END SPOILERS*** that being said, i really did enjoy the game. i highly encourage people to pick it up.
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#56 horgen  Moderator
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It's still an AAA game. The 0.5 difference wont change that.
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#58 EXLINK
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Lack of replayability and game length probably. I beat it on my first run-through in 11 hours on Titan (Hard) but on my second run-through on easy I beat it in like 7 or so hours. Beat all the challenges of Olympus in about 2 hours. I got my platinum in about 20 hours played.
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#59 mitu123
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The reviewer found it worse than God of War 2.

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#60 calvinsora
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The added P.S. pretty much destroys your argument. GoW3 is definitely not an objectively perfect game, I've heard of many who logically gave the game an 8.5 (and it seems to me that that would be my score as well, though I can't say anything). GS...disagrees with you :o GS gave KH under 8.5 (KH's my favorite game), but I'm not complaining. 'Tis their opinion.

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#61 Hathesulacon
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IMO I stopped caring about GS scores when Mass Effect 2 didnt get AAAA

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#62 Rza_rectah
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I just gotplatinumfor game yesterday what a great game. it deserved a 10 IMO.

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#63 mtradr43
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game was real short, shallow move set to play with (can easily win on normal difficutly by just randomly hitting a few buttons), uninspired bosses, giant scope of the game greatly exaggerated, etc.
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#64 lafiro93
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I just got platinum for game yesterday what a great game. it deserved a 10 IMO.

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Nuff said brah :lol:

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#65 Sully28
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Yeah, thats the way i feel about Mass Effect 2!

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I hope your right, i just finished GOW 3 and plan on starting Mass Effect 2 next.

On topic: I agree with the TC, 9.0 is a great score but i would have given it a 9.5 easily. Was such a satisfying game from start to finish, and what is wrong with the ending? I thought it was great, it didnt leave me be dissatisfied like most endings in games this gen. But scores are just opinions, the person reviewing obviously didnt think it was 9.5 material.

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#66 mgkennedy5
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By being really really good? Haha that about sums it up :P
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#67 Kevin-V
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A whole thread over .5? Oh wait, this is System Wars ;)

God of War 2 had more variety. It was longer. It was paced better. The story was more interesting.

"Prettier" doesn't mean "deserving of a higher score" in my book. I think most of us in the office agree that God of War II, from a design perspective, is a better game; we have to look beyond the "OMG I just fought on a Titan's back!" moments and look at the bigger picture. And if we believe God of War II is a better game (visuals aside) by even current standards, do you believe that it should still be deserving of a higher score?

Nevertheless, it is still superb, but I think Tom gave God of War III exactly the score it deserves.

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hold on. Ninja Gaiden 2 is better IMO. lloveLamp

Ninja Gaiden 2 is such a sloppy mess. It doesn't even come close to God of War III's quality.

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#69 Mario1331
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Honstly it deserves an 8.5 imo. I played GoW2 and then GoW3 back to back and I didn't see anything in the game that made it AAA caliber so long after GoW2 achieved that score. It's a great game and I enjoyed it but it's not much different from GoW2 overall.

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this not that much has changed or feel different then the other GOW games to the latest installment 9 is not even a bad score one point away from a 10 thats pretty damn good

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#70 C-Lee
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Really? I thought it was the worst in the series, and deserved an 8.5
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#72 Lethalhazard
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I'd give it an 8.5 TBH. I thought some of the mechanics were quite clunky; especially if you're playing on a wireless controller (even after the patch). Was pretty meh to me, and certainly didn't have the variety or flair of God of War 2.
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Ninja Gaiden 2 and Bayonetta piss all over the entire God of War series; they aren't even in the same league.
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#74 mD-
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GoW III is my favorite simply because the combat carries it a long way. It's so much more damn fun and extremely flexible than the combat in the others.

Also,

Poseidon has one of the ****ing best boss openings ever. I don't know about you guys, but a certain feeling came over me when I first heard Poseidon erupt up and speak to Kratos. Seriously, turn your bass and speakers up LOUD and listen to Poseidon when you first encounter him. How can a boss actually sound more epic when he speaks?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzqJswRGc8o

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I don't think the problem is that GoW3 DESERVED more than 9.0, I think 9.0 is perfect for it. I just think there are far too many other 9.0 games that GoW3 clearly trounces. Is it really the equal to Perfect Dark Zero? Assassin's Creed? L4D2? I think games as a whole are overrated, and with this inflated scale I agree, its a 9.5 and that's what I rated it, but overall, I disagree... the problem is not with GoW3s rating but with too many inflated scores in general that makes it hard to distinguish the truly awesome from the perfunctory (MW2).
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Ninja Gaiden 2 and Bayonetta piss all over the entire God of War series; they aren't even in the same league.jethrovegas
Sure Ninja Gaiden TWO had a nonsensical story, but its gameplay. Was incredible.

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#77 padaporra
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I agree, Mass Effect 2 was a much better game and also got a 9.0

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A whole thread over .5? Oh wait, this is System Wars ;)

God of War 2 had more variety. It was longer. It was paced better. The story was more interesting.

"Prettier" doesn't mean "deserving of a higher score" in my book. I think most of us in the office agree that God of War II, from a design perspective, is a better game; we have to look beyond the "OMG I just fought on a Titan's back!" moments and look at the bigger picture. And if we believe God of War II is a better game (visuals aside) by even current standards, do you believe that it should still be deserving of a higher score?

Nevertheless, it is still superb, but I think Tom gave God of War III exactly the score it deserves.

Kevin-V
I agree with everything you've said except for your last statement. Its a great game, but I honestly didn't think it was worth a 9.0. But that's just my opinion.
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I don't think the problem is that GoW3 DESERVED more than 9.0, I think 9.0 is perfect for it. I just think there are far too many other 9.0 games that GoW3 clearly trounces. Is it really the equal to Perfect Dark Zero? Assassin's Creed? L4D2? I think games as a whole are overrated, and with this inflated scale I agree, its a 9.5 and that's what I rated it, but overall, I disagree... the problem is not with GoW3s rating but with too many inflated scores in general that makes it hard to distinguish the truly awesome from the perfunctory (MW2).Hahadouken
Assassins's Creed came out in 2007, and PD0 in 2005; of course GOW3 would be a superior AAA. Left 4 Dead 2 doesn't deserve AAA though? What? :?
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#80 brennan7777
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Eh who cares most of the time GS scores dont make sense anyway. Base purchases off the things said within the review.

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Ninja Gaiden 2 and Bayonetta piss all over the entire God of War series; they aren't even in the same league.jethrovegas
Oh, jethrovegas, you're opening up quite the can of worms there. :P
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#82 Wolfetan
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A whole thread over .5? Oh wait, this is System Wars ;)

God of War 2 had more variety. It was longer. It was paced better. The story was more interesting.

"Prettier" doesn't mean "deserving of a higher score" in my book. I think most of us in the office agree that God of War II, from a design perspective, is a better game; we have to look beyond the "OMG I just fought on a Titan's back!" moments and look at the bigger picture. And if we believe God of War II is a better game (visuals aside) by even current standards, do you believe that it should still be deserving of a higher score?

Nevertheless, it is still superb, but I think Tom gave God of War III exactly the score it deserves.

Kevin-V
Why do you have to come in to the thread with logic, and always be correct?
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#83 Hahadouken
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Ninja Gaiden 2 and Bayonetta piss all over the entire God of War series; they aren't even in the same league.jethrovegas
No, they don't. Not even close. Ninja Gaiden is a demo of a combat system dressed in hours and hours of the most boring, uninspired pieces of garbage ever created. No story, horrible level design, horrible enemy design, awful dialogue, terrible music, poor, outdated presentation, bad camera angles. Great fighting system. EEE boobs.. That's NG summed up. Bayonetta? Same thing. A cool combat system with a flimsy ass game enveloping it, targeted at horny shut-in males. DMC4 is another example of great combat in an otherwise empty, dull game. Japan is in desperate need of evolution in the action genre in general.
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[QUOTE="Hahadouken"]I don't think the problem is that GoW3 DESERVED more than 9.0, I think 9.0 is perfect for it. I just think there are far too many other 9.0 games that GoW3 clearly trounces. Is it really the equal to Perfect Dark Zero? Assassin's Creed? L4D2? I think games as a whole are overrated, and with this inflated scale I agree, its a 9.5 and that's what I rated it, but overall, I disagree... the problem is not with GoW3s rating but with too many inflated scores in general that makes it hard to distinguish the truly awesome from the perfunctory (MW2).Stevo_the_gamer
Assassins's Creed came out in 2007, and PD0 in 2005; of course GOW3 would be a superior AAA. Left 4 Dead 2 doesn't deserve AAA though? What? :?

I don't care what anyone says or how good the gameplay is; L4D2 doesn't deserve AAA just because of the lack of content. Hell; any game that's put up at a full price tag that was made in the course of a single year doesn't deserve AAA especially with that lack of effort put into it.
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[QUOTE="Lethalhazard"] I don't care what anyone says or how good the gameplay is; L4D2 doesn't deserve AAA just because of the lack of content. Hell; any game that's put up at a full price tag that was made in the course of a single year doesn't deserve AAA especially with that lack of effort put into it.

Left 4 Dead 2 has more content, and offers more longevity than God of War 3. :|
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Hahadouken"]I don't think the problem is that GoW3 DESERVED more than 9.0, I think 9.0 is perfect for it. I just think there are far too many other 9.0 games that GoW3 clearly trounces. Is it really the equal to Perfect Dark Zero? Assassin's Creed? L4D2? I think games as a whole are overrated, and with this inflated scale I agree, its a 9.5 and that's what I rated it, but overall, I disagree... the problem is not with GoW3s rating but with too many inflated scores in general that makes it hard to distinguish the truly awesome from the perfunctory (MW2).Lethalhazard
Assassins's Creed came out in 2007, and PD0 in 2005; of course GOW3 would be a superior AAA. Left 4 Dead 2 doesn't deserve AAA though? What? :?

I don't care what anyone says or how good the gameplay is; L4D2 doesn't deserve AAA just because of the lack of content. Hell; any game that's put up at a full price tag that was made in the course of a single year doesn't deserve AAA especially with that lack of effort put into it.

I agree.

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#87 Hahadouken
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[QUOTE="Hahadouken"]I don't think the problem is that GoW3 DESERVED more than 9.0, I think 9.0 is perfect for it. I just think there are far too many other 9.0 games that GoW3 clearly trounces. Is it really the equal to Perfect Dark Zero? Assassin's Creed? L4D2? I think games as a whole are overrated, and with this inflated scale I agree, its a 9.5 and that's what I rated it, but overall, I disagree... the problem is not with GoW3s rating but with too many inflated scores in general that makes it hard to distinguish the truly awesome from the perfunctory (MW2).Stevo_the_gamer
Assassins's Creed came out in 2007, and PD0 in 2005; of course GOW3 would be a superior AAA. Left 4 Dead 2 doesn't deserve AAA though? What? :?

It doesn't. I bought it for full-price but I don't feel it's a AAA game at all. Who cares when those other games came out? They didn't deserve AAA then either. It's not like AC had universally positive reviews. It has like an A on Metacritic.
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Lethalhazard"] I don't care what anyone says or how good the gameplay is; L4D2 doesn't deserve AAA just because of the lack of content. Hell; any game that's put up at a full price tag that was made in the course of a single year doesn't deserve AAA especially with that lack of effort put into it.

Left 4 Dead 2 has more content, and offers more longevity than God of War 3. :|

That's a horribly flawed argument. I could squeeze 10000 hours out of cs_dust but it doesn't mean they should charge $60 for it. It's a totally different type of game, and if you honestly think it's a straight-ahead comparison, I don't really know how I could, in good conscience, ever try and have another discussion with you.
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[QUOTE="lloveLamp"]hold on. Ninja Gaiden 2 is better IMO. killerfist
You really think so? I find the overall presentation to be better in GOW. Combat is better in NG no doubt, but GOW shines in pretty much every other area.

yeah. Even though GOW is better in every aspect other than the combat I have no doubts as to Ninja Gaiden 2 being better just because the combat is much more fun. GoWs combat is fun as well, but when you increase your skill in ninja gaiden and realize just how deep the combat is GoW does pale a little in comparison. But both are great games.
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It doesn't. I bought it for full-price but I don't feel it's a AAA game at all. Who cares when those other games came out? They didn't deserve AAA then either. It's not like AC had universally positive reviews. It has like an A on Metacritic.Hahadouken

Because it entirely matters when the games come out. Of course, now, as you look back and replay games that they feel incredibly underwhelming. Because times have evolved, of course games released many years ago don't hold up to the standards of today, they are some exceptions of course but for the most part this is true. Gamespot is normally inconsistent with Metacrtitc and Gamerankings, not every game sides up with the same range on those sites.

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#91 lloveLamp
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[QUOTE="lloveLamp"]hold on. Ninja Gaiden 2 is better IMO. sammyjenkis898

Ninja Gaiden 2 is such a sloppy mess. It doesn't even come close to God of War III's quality.

just because you like the movie aspects of gow more than the gameplay aspects of ninja gaiden doesn't make it a bad game.
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#92 Hahadouken
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[QUOTE="Lethalhazard"] I don't care what anyone says or how good the gameplay is; L4D2 doesn't deserve AAA just because of the lack of content. Hell; any game that's put up at a full price tag that was made in the course of a single year doesn't deserve AAA especially with that lack of effort put into it.

Exactly my thoughts. I bought it, so I obviously don't hate it, but if I had bought L4D the previous year I would be pretty choked. Claiming a lot of content because you have, in essence, "randomly-generated dungeons" is kind of a fallacy.
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#93 Hahadouken
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[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]

[QUOTE="lloveLamp"]hold on. Ninja Gaiden 2 is better IMO. lloveLamp

Ninja Gaiden 2 is such a sloppy mess. It doesn't even come close to God of War III's quality.

just because you like the movie aspects of gow more than the gameplay aspects of ninja gaiden doesn't make it a bad game.

I actually like the gameplay in GoW3 FAR, FAR better than NG as well. There isn't a single area that I find NG to be more fun or superior than GoW3.

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#94 h575309
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[QUOTE="Lethalhazard"] I don't care what anyone says or how good the gameplay is; L4D2 doesn't deserve AAA just because of the lack of content. Hell; any game that's put up at a full price tag that was made in the course of a single year doesn't deserve AAA especially with that lack of effort put into it.Hahadouken
Exactly my thoughts. I bought it, so I obviously don't hate it, but if I had bought L4D the previous year I would be pretty choked. Claiming a lot of content because you have, in essence, "randomly-generated dungeons" is kind of a fallacy.

Comparing GoW to L4D is kind of silly isnt it?

And also, GS scores arent from one guy, they are from a bunch of different editors with different opinions themselves, so just because GoW3 scoredhigher than, say Just Cause 2, doesnt make it a better game to the masses. Remember Demons Souls won GOTY and had a lower score than Uncharted 2, Forza 3 and others.

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#95 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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That's a horribly flawed argument. I could squeeze 10000 hours out of cs_dust but it doesn't mean they should charge $60 for it.Hahadouken
It's not flawed in the slightest, if a user manages to get hundreds of hours out of Counter Strike or Source, then that game offers more inherent value to that said player opposed to playing a singleplayer only game that can be completed in nine hours. Now, I would be shocked if they charged $60 for it, but I'm even more shocked that singleplayer games cost that much and can be completed in one sitting. That is even more shocking to me. At least with multiplayer games, I can see myself playing it consistently throguhout the entire year. Especially with a game like Left 4 Dead 2, where the co-op, versus, and survival are so insanely addicting.
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#96 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Comparing GoW to L4D is kind of silly isnt it?.h575309
In some ways, absolutely yes, but I think it's a noteworthy comparison when one complains about the lack of content in L4D2 and then goes off to praise GoW3; I think that's rather strange since GoW3 is a rather short game. Agreed with the second part, btw.
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[QUOTE="lloveLamp"][QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]

Ninja Gaiden 2 is such a sloppy mess. It doesn't even come close to God of War III's quality.

Hahadouken

just because you like the movie aspects of gow more than the gameplay aspects of ninja gaiden doesn't make it a bad game.

I actually like the gameplay in GoW3 FAR, FAR better than NG as well. There isn't a single area that I find NG to be more fun or superior than GoW3.

deep gameplay>>>>>>>>button masher gameplay no matter how hard you try to spin it off

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I loved the game but I thought it was pretty short compared to gow2. I think 9.0 was the right score here.

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[QUOTE="Hahadouken"][QUOTE="Lethalhazard"] I don't care what anyone says or how good the gameplay is; L4D2 doesn't deserve AAA just because of the lack of content. Hell; any game that's put up at a full price tag that was made in the course of a single year doesn't deserve AAA especially with that lack of effort put into it.h575309
Exactly my thoughts. I bought it, so I obviously don't hate it, but if I had bought L4D the previous year I would be pretty choked. Claiming a lot of content because you have, in essence, "randomly-generated dungeons" is kind of a fallacy.

Comparing GoW to L4D is kind of silly isnt it? And also, GS scores arent from one guy, they are from a bunch of different editors with different opinions themselves, so just because GoW3 scored the same as, say Just Cause 2, doesnt make it a better game to the masses. Remember Demons Souls won GOTY and had a lower score than Uncharted 2, Forza 3 and others.

Not really. I am comparing them by genre. L4D as a shooter is not equivalent to Half Life 2 or FEAR. God of War 3 on the other hand is at least equivalent to anything in the genre.