@NathanDrakeSwag: BotW scores higher than both. Don’t get me wrong GoW looks amazing. But it didn’t out score BotW here or on MC so it keeps its crown, sorry.
@NathanDrakeSwag: BotW scores higher than both. Don’t get me wrong GoW looks amazing. But it didn’t out score BotW here or on MC so it keeps its crown, sorry.
@NathanDrakeSwag: BotW scores higher than both. Don’t get me wrong GoW looks amazing. But it didn’t out score BotW here or on MC so it keeps its crown, sorry.
Why does this matter to you and why are you telling him sorry? It's not like there's a huge gap between 94 and 97 on MC.
They are both excellent games in their own right.
I'm extremely happy this game is scoring tremendously. The only thing that sucks is that Xbox gamers will be going into overdrive trying to post spoilers everywhere n' shit. They can be the worst faction in gaming.
I'm extremely happy this game is scoring tremendously. The only thing that sucks is that Xbox gamers will be going into overdrive trying to post spoilers everywhere n' shit. They can be the worst faction in gaming.
I'd be salty and toxic too if I spent $500 on a console to play flops like Sea of Tears.
@BenjaminBanklin: all factions are as bad as each other to be fair. If you get dog shit on you brand new trainers it doesn’t matter which breed of dog the shite fell from. And we’re all guilty of dropping dog eggs on SW!
@BenjaminBanklin: I’d be extremely shocked if it didn’t out sell them with the enormous PS4 install base.
DAMN. THE HYPE IS OFFICIALLY REAL!!!!!!!!!!!..........one more masterpiece for the PS4 that i am sure i will enjoy on PS4PRO.
This is going to be a Game Of The Year candidate. God Of War, Spider-Man, and Red Dead Redemption 2 are going to be hard to beat and make Game Of The Year awards very interesting.
PS4 is the greatest console of all time.
@scatteh316: A different writer reviewed God of War. He may have a different means of scoring games.
@scatteh316: A different writer reviewed God of War. He may have a different means of scoring games.
If it is a Gamespot review, it should be reviewed with the same standards. Opinions will vary, but all the games should be reviewed the same way.
@BassMan: Actually, now that I am checking, I believe Peter Brown did all three.
My only guess is that the highs Peter got out of the two higher rated games nullified the cons, while God of War doesn't have any glaring issues but didn't quite meet the highs as the two other games. That's only a guess. I'm not Peter Brown, so I can't really speak for him.
Everyone is different, and I don't think Gamespot staff should adhere to one standard just because they write for the same publication. I don't see what the point of that would be. There's a reason they list the writer's name on each review.
@BassMan: Actually, now that I am checking, I believe Peter Brown did all three.
My only guess is that the highs Peter got out of the two higher rated games nullified the cons, while God of War doesn't have any glaring issues but didn't quite meet the highs as the two other games. That's only a guess. I'm not Peter Brown, so I can't really speak for him.
Everyone is different, and I don't think Gamespot staff should adhere to one standard just because they write for the same publication. I don't see what the point of that would be. There's a reason they list the writer's name on each review.
What is the point of a publication without standards? It just becomes a free for all with no identity.
IGN gave it a 10. I want this game so bad but I know it will go down in price in a few months like all PlayStation exclusives do so I am going to have to wait.
@BassMan: I don't believe a publication should have a unified standard, but I do believe individual critics that write for publications should have their own standards.
Asking the writers to change their thoughts or write a review differently from what they believe to adhere to a publications standards would be disingenuous because it would be asking the critic to change their mind for the sake of the company they work for.
@BassMan: I don't believe a publication should have a unified standard, but I do believe individual critics that write for publications should have their own standards.
Asking the writers to change their thoughts or write a review differently from what they believe to adhere to a publications standards would be disingenuous because it would be asking the critic to change their mind for the sake of the company they work for.
Again, opinions and interpretation of games will vary. However, there are certain rules/standards/format that should be followed if you are writing for a publication. If the reviewer can not conform to those, then they can write for a different publication.
Another game Playstation exclusive that cowspot is going over score. That is the reason I don't use them for my reviews on even PS games.
@xhawk27 said:
Another Great Console Exclusive.
TCHBO!
https://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/forza-horizon-3-hype-thread-33361402/?page=5
Funny i didn't see you on FH3 hype thread trashing gamespot for giving FH3 a 9...
Hypocrite much..lol
:)
I was hoping for multiple weapon/ more varied combat
Ya, I'm scared I'm gonna miss the Blades of Chaos and Plume of Prometheus.
@BassMan: I agree but I don't think those rules and standards should affect the person's opinion.
The writing should be of a certain quality etc etc. but what I believe you're talking about is all critics valuing the same qualities in a video game just because they write for the same website. I don't think that makes sense. People have different values and things they like in games. That's personal opinion. Values and quality will depend on the person.
I can understand someone preferring something that has issues but also really great highs vs. a game that has no visible issues but just doesn't reach the same level of highs. That's not in context with this particular pool of video games; More a general statement.
Anyway, I wouldn't take it too seriously. Game criticism is rarely good.
@scatteh316: A different writer reviewed God of War. He may have a different means of scoring games.
I do not care, you can not score a game that has no bad points lower then 2 games that have.
@scatteh316: What if it has no bad points but the good points aren't as good as the other 2 games?
That's not how scoring works.
GOW either needs to be a 10 or Mario and Zelda need to be dropped down to a 9.
Just from looking at footage and brief skimming of reviews, I think what could've been lacking from Peter's review to give it a 10 is that it has no replayability. One playthrough is enough to experience 100% of what the game has to offer, leaving no variety. No new game+, no sort of arena, etc.
I'll rent it and give it a try, but I'll be going into it with a bias because I'm not liking what I've seen of all the pre-release footage. Biggest issue, even more than the heavy focus on story, is the micropauses during combat to give a sense of weight and brutality to the combat. It made me feel motion sick seeing so much of it.
Just from looking at footage and brief skimming of reviews, I think what could've been lacking from Peter's review to give it a 10 is that it has no replay-ability.
And Mario and Zelda have? :/
@scatteh316: Doesn't the score not work as a digest for the writer's opinion? So if his opinion is that he didn't like a game as much as another game despite not finding any fault with it, but simply believing the game isn't as fun, then shouldn't that be reflective in the score?
I wouldn't get so concerned over a critic's review score. They're often not a very useful metric anyway.
@scatteh316: Doesn't the score not work as a digest for the writer's opinion? So if his opinion is that he didn't like a game as much as another game despite not finding any fault with it, but simply believing the game isn't as fun, then shouldn't that be reflective in the score?
I wouldn't get so concerned over a critic's review score. They're often not a very useful metric anyway.
The writers opinion should never be a factor for a review for a publication.
He's reviewing the game for the publication and thus needs to follow the same rules as everyone else who's also reviewing for the publication so the review is fair and can be compared to other games.
Letting personal opinion and changing rules about how games are reviewed on a per game basis makes the whole thing redundant and pointless.
All games should start at the maximum score of 10 and then have points deducted for every bad and negative thing found in the game, this will give you a true and unbiased final score.
GoW should be started on 10 and finished on 10 because there's no negatives to cause a point deduction.
Mario and Zelda should of started on 10 and had deductions based on negatives.
This has simply proved there's bias in Nintendo reviews as people (other then sheep) have always claimed.
@scatteh316: Video game reviews are an opinion. :P
If the only metric was objectivity, then every game that was technically sound would get a 10/10. Game design is subjective; a practice that is part science and psychology. Therefore, it will affect everyone differently. A game can have no technical flaws or even glaring issues but still not be as endearing as a game that is imperfect but excels in certain areas that appease to a person's tastes more. Given that all a review is, is a criticism and judgement based on the writer's own standards, then that's all that is reflected in the reviews listed here. You don't have to agree, or believe they adhere to your standards.
It's not uncommon for me to disagree with highly praised game reviews inside and outside of Nintendo's development space. While I don't like using review scores, I would definitely not give Odyssey or BoTW a 10/10 if I were. I don't know what I would give instead but while I loved those games, there were things I would love to see differently, and believe change would make them better. Do I think BoTW and Odyssey got crazy high scores? Yeah, but I do not think this is a Nintendo thing - I believe many games coming from a respected developer or IP skates by simply on the grounds that game criticism is really not very good. GTA, Uncharted, Zelda, The Witcher 3; all of them have some perceivable faults that were not really challenged in their respected reviews.
So, instead of actually creating a good beat-em-up, because, let's be honest, God of War was kinda poorest out there, Sony just changed the franchise genre. The game would look much better if it was a new IP with the main character being a Viking without that awful red tattoo all over the face.
@BenjaminBanklin: why would they bother posting spoilers? They don't own the game if they only play on Xbox... If they're watching youtubers play through the game, only to spoil the ending they should take a long look in the mirror and remember what the bottom of life's barrel looks like.
That's not how scoring works.
GOW either needs to be a 10 or Mario and Zelda need to be dropped down to a 9.
Which is completely false. The minor nitpicks of Mario and Zelda may as well be irrelevant and are certainly not strong enough to knock off a point. The strong points of God of War aren't strong enough to give it a 10. You're looking for a narrative that isn't there.
And Mario and Zelda have? :/
Huh yes? But since you haven't played them and are here to play the victim, why would you care? You already made up your mind and are using flawed logic to defend a paranoid point of view. No helping you here. It's a case of not wanting to understand.
And Mario and Zelda have? :/
If we're talking about Mario Odyssey, hell no. BUT it has a ton of side content that is a continuation of the main gameplay mechanics, even further challenging the player. Although with how many more stars are locked behind beating the main game, it's almost like playing through it again. If we're talking about Breath of the Wild, hell yes. While the story is the same, the gameplay has so much variety that even though you are doing the same objective, it can be done with different tools.
Of course this is speculation, but I'm guessing God of War will have nothing that encourages a second round because of the length of the campaign and lack of depth.
@scatteh316: Doesn't the score not work as a digest for the writer's opinion? So if his opinion is that he didn't like a game as much as another game despite not finding any fault with it, but simply believing the game isn't as fun, then shouldn't that be reflective in the score?
I wouldn't get so concerned over a critic's review score. They're often not a very useful metric anyway.
The writers opinion should never be a factor for a review for a publication.
He's reviewing the game for the publication and thus needs to follow the same rules as everyone else who's also reviewing for the publication so the review is fair and can be compared to other games.
Letting personal opinion and changing rules about how games are reviewed on a per game basis makes the whole thing redundant and pointless.
All games should start at the maximum score of 10 and then have points deducted for every bad and negative thing found in the game, this will give you a true and unbiased final score.
GoW should be started on 10 and finished on 10 because there's no negatives to cause a point deduction.
Mario and Zelda should of started on 10 and had deductions based on negatives.
This has simply proved there's bias in Nintendo reviews as people (other then sheep) have always claimed.
I agree with this 100% once you let your own opinion into the score that score is screw,they have to be objective,i have been a huge critic of this.
Biggest example of that bullshit...And was done by pretty much every reviewer out there when it came to Gears,as the game did suffer from all those problems.
All those pathetic losers that were so vocal about:
"dad of war",
"but but cinematics" - even though GOW was always highly cinematic :faceplam
"but but looks like Uncharted/Horizon"- only thing common is the amazing visuals
can shut their irrelevant ass now and go back to their caves. It pathetic how 2 years of hate came to nothing
I agree with this 100% once you let your own opinion into the score that score is screw,they have to be objective,i have been a huge critic of this.
Biggest example of that bullshit...And was done by pretty much every reviewer out there when it came to Gears,as the game did suffer from all those problems.
How in the ****? A score is an opinion lol. An "objective" review is an oxymoron.
The game looked amazing from the first showing so Im not suprised people love it.
That's not how scoring works.
GOW either needs to be a 10 or Mario and Zelda need to be dropped down to a 9.
Which is completely false. The minor nitpicks of Mario and Zelda may as well be irrelevant and are certainly not strong enough to knock off a point. The strong points of God of War aren't strong enough to give it a 10. You're looking for a narrative that isn't there.
Yeah those things mentioned in the review score are minor and can be ignored but he ignored the actual huge failures of BOTW and Mario. The shitastic anticlimatic ending, the simplistic and boring combat mechanics, samey bosses, boring fetch quests as side content or how the whole plot is almost nonexistant in BOTW. You guys can deny the Nintendobonus all you want but its clear as day that there is an inherent bias for Nintendo games.
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