God Of War Hype Thread! Press ? repeatedly to hype - 9@GS 95 MC - Let the feast begin!

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#251 Hawkeye44
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The first of the 3 juggernauts exceeds expectations, Can't wait for the other 2 but now it's all about GOW.

Another masterpiece exclusive to join Bloodborne, Horizon and Uncharted 4 this gen. And there are more coming.

But but "Movie games"

But but cinematic games

But but but, LMAO STFU

Glad Sony doesn't wasted their first party on those cartoony games or low budget mmos , inseatd they make Behemoths like this.

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@NathanDrakeSwag: BotW scores higher than both. Don’t get me wrong GoW looks amazing. But it didn’t out score BotW here or on MC so it keeps its crown, sorry.

keep living in 2017 with those 2 cartoony games with last gen graphics while the PS4 is getting blockbusters left and right.

5 90s >>>>>>>>>>>> 2 97s

Nintendo have been irrelevant in 2018, it only getting ports of last gen games :D

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#252 Juub1990
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@deeph said:

The game looked amazing from the first showing so Im not suprised people love it.

Yeah those things mentioned in the review score are minor and can be ignored but he ignored the actual huge failures of BOTW and Mario. The shitastic anticlimatic ending, the simplistic and boring combat mechanics, samey bosses, boring fetch quests as side content or how the whole plot is almost nonexistant in BOTW. You guys can deny the Nintendobonus all you want but its clear as day that there is an inherent bias for Nintendo games.

And you honestly think God of War is flawless? Because there isn't a single con listed in there. They love Zelda and Mario, they think it's a 10. Some people don't think they're great. Others think they're shit. These are opinions and you can't call someone out for having an opinion no matter how much you disagree with it.

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@Juub1990 said:
@tormentos said:

I agree with this 100% once you let your own opinion into the score that score is screw,they have to be objective,i have been a huge critic of this.

Biggest example of that bullshit...And was done by pretty much every reviewer out there when it came to Gears,as the game did suffer from all those problems.

How in the ****? A score is an opinion lol. An "objective" review is an oxymoron.

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@hawkeye44: still doesn’t change the fact that they scored higher.

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#255 Juub1990
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@jumpaction So a different person has a different opinion? You don't say!

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#256 IvanGrozny
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@scatteh316 said:

Nintendo games don't get given an extra point just for being a Nintendo game and reviews aren't biased towards Nintendo games.

The bad? Kratos is a metaphorical representation of a dick. He's bold, his head is red, always aggressive and angry. Once you have this mental image in your head, it will be very hard to shake it off.

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#257  Edited By deactivated-60cd6c3d31f6d
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The game looked amazing from the first showing so Im not suprised people love it.

@deeph said:
@Juub1990 said:
@scatteh316 said:

That's not how scoring works.

GOW either needs to be a 10 or Mario and Zelda need to be dropped down to a 9.

Which is completely false. The minor nitpicks of Mario and Zelda may as well be irrelevant and are certainly not strong enough to knock off a point. The strong points of God of War aren't strong enough to give it a 10. You're looking for a narrative that isn't there.

Yeah those things mentioned in the review score are minor and can be ignored but he ignored the actual huge failures of BOTW and Mario. The shitastic anticlimatic ending, the simplistic and boring combat mechanics, samey bosses, boring fetch quests as side content or how the whole plot is almost nonexistant in BOTW. You guys can deny the Nintendobonus all you want but its clear as day that there is an inherent bias for Nintendo games.

Edit: Sony and third party publishers (Rockstar excluded) have to fight tooth and nail to get this kind of Scores and Nintendo releases a rehash with a loved mascot and unless its complettly shit it will easily score a 80+ or 90+ for mainline games. But even shit games like kirby and Star Fox review fairly highly for how bad they actually are.

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#258  Edited By deactivated-5c1d0901c2aec
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@Juub1990: But game reviews aren't opinions. :P

Scores are the definitive way in which we rank the quality of video games except all the time where they aren't. Scores are extremely important!... Except when I don't agree with them, then they are bias and opinionated when they should be objective because they conform to my tastes - er I mean... objective standards... ;)

Or, alternatively, scores are just broken down, high level versions of opinions and it doesn't matter if you disagree. God of War is a 10/10 game if it resonates with you in all the places that matter to you as an individual living, breathing and existing on this earth.

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#259  Edited By IvanGrozny
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So, what do we have in gameplay department? Climbing, check. Solving light puzzles, check. Long walks meanwhile two characters conversing, check. So basically the same repeated gameplay as Last of Us and Uncharted. So what is different? Narrative, drama based on exploring the relationship between father and son. But wait, didn't we explore relationship of father-daughter in Last of Us. Or brother-brother relationship plus marital issues in Uncharted 4. So much for IGN's "we have never had such a fusion of gameplay and narrative".

11/10s lol.

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#260 Calvincfb
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@ivangrozny: did you completely ignore the battle mechanics?

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#261  Edited By Juub1990
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@deeph Again, you have a different opinion, that's all you've been doing. It's fine to have different tastes, nobody likes all the same things which is normal. You're basically arguing there is an industry-wide bias towards Nintendo games. You know what it's called when big corporations and people team up behind the shadows for nefarious or deceitful purposes? It's called a conspiracy. This is simply a case of a bunch of opinionated people thinking something is nigh perfect when you don't think it is. I have some friends at work who swear BOTW is by far the best game they've ever played and is near flawless. Surprisingly some people DO think this game deserves a 10. The problem comes from you being unable to grasp that others may just love the game that much which honestly shouldn't be that hard to understand.

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#262 Chutebox
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Damn, kratos is wrecking shit

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#263  Edited By IvanGrozny
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@calvincfb said:

@ivangrozny: did you completely ignore the battle mechanics?

Oh you mean that battle mechanic that they copied from Witcher 3 ? Dodge, attack, parry thing. That has never be done before. But it has a respawning ax. So basically it's a third person shooter too.

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#264 Juub1990
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@jumpaction Pretty much. It seems people don't know reviews are inherently biased.

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#265 Calvincfb
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@ivangrozny: oh, did they copy it, now? The butthurt is real.

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@calvincfb said:

@ivangrozny: oh, did they copy it, now? The butthurt is real.

Dark Souls did it first. All other copied. So yeah, they copied. Basic logic.

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Not a single cutscene apparantly.

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#268 Calvincfb
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@ivangrozny: yeah, riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight, sure. You won, I concede.

It's not good to argue with crazy people, they might kill you.

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#269 Calvincfb
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@Random_Matt: "bu bu but movie games"

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#270  Edited By IvanGrozny
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@Random_Matt said:

Not a single cutscene apparantly.

Yeah, sure. And all those cutscenes I saw in the review, what are they?

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I think for those concerned about the Gamespot review score or any biases in the medium; They should put less stock in game reviews (especially scores) and look forward to the game regardless. Put all your energy into something positive and look at the situation as it stands, God of War is a game that you get to play soon that you're more than likely going to love.

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@calvincfb said:

@ivangrozny: yeah, riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight, sure. You won, I concede.

It's not good to argue with crazy people, they might kill you.

Yep, I am the danger, i am the one who knocks and all that XD

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#273  Edited By ellos
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@ChubbyGuy40 said:

Just from looking at footage and brief skimming of reviews, I think what could've been lacking from Peter's review to give it a 10 is that it has no replayability. One playthrough is enough to experience 100% of what the game has to offer, leaving no variety. No new game+, no sort of arena, etc.

I'll rent it and give it a try, but I'll be going into it with a bias because I'm not liking what I've seen of all the pre-release footage. Biggest issue, even more than the heavy focus on story, is the micropauses during combat to give a sense of weight and brutality to the combat. It made me feel motion sick seeing so much of it.

They seems to have wrap a cinematic game in a full on action rpg with a modern wide linear level design. You could finish the game and not have the entire map unlocked. Places you have missed with enemies and bosses you have never fought. Side missions you have not done. Perhaps even fight with a different character build style second time around. Seems like its a movie as they say in SW but someone must have told what if you also make a game ass game. I don't know those are the vibes I'm getting from reviews seems surprising but maybe they were on to something when they were saying 30+ hours. The ign reviewer says hes going back to do those optional stuff because they are all there after the game is completed. Of course this is not on the level of BOTW though.

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#274 xxyetixx
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@calvincfb: well to be fair GOW just like all of Sony’s first party games. They are Trend followers not trend setters. Which isn’t really that bad cause they take good things that work from other games. But they are very far from original or innovative.

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#275  Edited By Calvincfb
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@xxyetixx: most games are not innovative, and being innovative doesn't matter, what matters is making things work.

GOW made an excellent job at fusing combat, exploration, story, character development and polishing. How many devs do that? Not many.

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@Juub1990 said:

@deeph Again, you have a different opinion, that's all you've been doing. It's fine to have different tastes, nobody likes all the same things which is normal. You're basically arguing there is an industry-wide bias towards Nintendo games. You know what it's called when big corporations and people team up behind the shadows for nefarious or deceitful purposes? It's called a conspiracy.

Im not saying they are in cohots with Nintendo. Im saying they are biased for Nintendo because they have grown up with them. If you listen to podcasts and know some personalities you will discover that there always and I mean always at least one hardcore Nintendofanboy in those big outlets. How many times have you heard the phrase "I love Nintendo" from personalities? I have a lot. I will give you some examples for Nintendofanboys. IGN was founded as a Nintendofanboy site. And the founder is the current VP of IGN. He practically only plays Nintendo games. Kinda Funny Games which came from IGN has Tim which is a Nintendofanboy like the sheep here.

This is simply a case of a bunch of opinionated people thinking something is nigh perfect when you don't think it is. I have some friends at work who swear BOTW is by far the best game they've ever played and is near flawless. Surprisingly some people DO think this game deserves a 10. The problem comes from you being unable to grasp that others may just love the game that much which honestly shouldn't be that hard to understand.

But your friends are not professional reviewers right? Why have we never heard of the misgivings of BOTW prior to the release? They are glaring. They could have still given a 10 and mentioned the things I mentioned even if it would have made the score less believable.

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#277 Juub1990
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@deeph A review is by its very nature biased. Our very own @Ghost4ever here is biased towards FPS. Others are biased towards RPG's. The Nintendo "bias" is just like any other kind of bias which may as well be irrelevant because if everyone is biased towards something, why single out Nintendo?

"Professional reviewers" this gave me a chuckle. These guys are simply regular Joes who have a big enough platform to be heard by other regular Joes. They don't have a Ph.D in game review lol.

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#278  Edited By deactivated-5c1d0901c2aec
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@Juub1990: Most of them don't really have any education in game design. They're writers first and foremost.

Peeps should just like what they like. No reason to require validation for it. Get pumped! God of War is nearly here. :)

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@Juub1990 said:

@deeph A review is by its very nature biased. Our very own @Ghost4ever here is biased towards FPS. Others are biased towards RPG's. The Nintendo "bias" is just like any other kind of bias which may as well be irrelevant because if everyone is biased towards something, why single out Nintendo?

You do realize that your own examples are proving my point? You list genres but then a fucking company as the ground for bias. Nothing wrong here?

"Professional reviewers" this gave me a chuckle. These guys are simply regular Joes who have a big enough platform to be heard by other regular Joes. They don't have a Ph.D in game review lol.

Of course they dont. If they had they would at least try to be actual professionals and not let their bias dictate their coverage. But this is more proof for my point. Do you actually disagree with what I am saying?

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#280 ChubbyGuy40
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@deeph: "Why have we never heard of the misgivings of BOTW prior to the release?"

Literally any kind of discussion thread on other websites would have plenty of people talking about the worries they have with BotW before release. The game press's job is to hype up games and produce things that'll attract website traffic. People in general would rather talk about what they're excited for with the game rather than the perceived negatives.

IMO, use websites for news. Use forums and such for a more critical look at various things with whatever game. Users are more likely to catch those things because we can freely talk to each other and we want to discuss this stuff.

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#281 Juub1990
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@deeph said:
@Juub1990 said:

@deeph A review is by its very nature biased. Our very own @Ghost4ever here is biased towards FPS. Others are biased towards RPG's. The Nintendo "bias" is just like any other kind of bias which may as well be irrelevant because if everyone is biased towards something, why single out Nintendo?

You do realize that your own examples are proving my point? You list genres but then a fucking company as the ground for bias. Nothing wrong here?

"Professional reviewers" this gave me a chuckle. These guys are simply regular Joes who have a big enough platform to be heard by other regular Joes. They don't have a Ph.D in game review lol.

Of course they dont. If they had they would at least try to be actual professionals and not let their bias dictate their coverage. But this is more proof for my point. Do you actually disagree whit what I am saying?

So then if everyone is biased, what's the point of bringing out the Nintendo bias in particular? The Nintendo bias isn't any more prevalent than any other which is what you're implying. If the Nintendo bias is as prevalent as any other, what more harm does it do to the point of singling out?

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IDK, I loved the GoW trilogy on PS2/3, I even loved the PSP titles, Ascension was fine too. But I'm just not sold on this one.

For starters I'm sick of gaming's sudden need to have me babysit kids. I'm also just overall disappointed with how toned down everything looks compared to the older games, oh and don't get me started on just how stupid Kratos looks with that damn beard.

It doesn't help that is really does look like yet another movie-game from Sony. If you like that great, but God of War was one of the few PS IP's that focused on real gameplay instead, and to see that gone in favour of making it be like every other 1st party release they have honestly makes me feel sad.

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#283 ellos
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@ivangrozny: I think what they are getting at is take narrative style of those games but fuse it on an action rpg game. So tactical action combat check. Character and weapon stats build check. Strong exploration for loot check. Side quests check. etc... That is the vibes I'm getting.

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#284 JtoThaMtoThaP
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Great reviews, can't wait!

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@Juub1990 said:
@deeph said:
@Juub1990 said:

@deeph A review is by its very nature biased. Our very own @Ghost4ever here is biased towards FPS. Others are biased towards RPG's. The Nintendo "bias" is just like any other kind of bias which may as well be irrelevant because if everyone is biased towards something, why single out Nintendo?

You do realize that your own examples are proving my point? You list genres but then a fucking company as the ground for bias. Nothing wrong here?

"Professional reviewers" this gave me a chuckle. These guys are simply regular Joes who have a big enough platform to be heard by other regular Joes. They don't have a Ph.D in game review lol.

Of course they dont. If they had they would at least try to be actual professionals and not let their bias dictate their coverage. But this is more proof for my point. Do you actually disagree whit what I am saying?

So then if everyone is biased, what's the point of bringing out the Nintendo bias in particular? The Nintendo bias isn't any more prevalent than any other which is what you're implying. If the Nintendo bias is as prevalent as any other, what more harm does it do to the point of singling out?

Im not implying. Im straight out saying it is more prevalent. The reason I bring it up is because someone brought up Nintendos two 97 games as if thats any way to indicate the quality of games.

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#286 Juub1990
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@deeph: And since you can’t in any way, shape or form prove this, what leg are you standing on?

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@deeph: Dunno who that was but you may as well just ignore stuff like that. Scores aren't a reflection of a game's 'global' quality. :P

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#288 SecretPolice
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Was there really ever any doubt? I mean, same old, same old.. Fake Reviews, Fake Narratives, Fake News...

Fake you guys, I'm going home. lol :P

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@spike6958 said:

IDK, I loved the GoW trilogy on PS2/3, I even loved the PSP titles, Ascension was fine too. But I'm just not sold on this one.

For starters I'm sick of gaming's sudden need to have me babysit kids. I'm also just overall disappointed with how toned down everything looks compared to the older games, oh and don't get me started on just how stupid Kratos looks with that damn beard.

It doesn't help that is really does look like yet another movie-game from Sony. If you like that great, but God of War was one of the few PS IP's that focused on real gameplay instead, and to see that gone in favour of making it be like every other 1st party release they have honestly makes me feel sad.

Yea let me know when its $10-$20.

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#290 xxyetixx
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@calvincfb: yet you wonder why people criticize and dislike the single player story driven games ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I don’t care about a different or similar story lines or arch of a game. I care about the game play and there is no point in playing the same thing over and over and over when we’ve already played that type of game when it came out was fresh and innovative the first time around.

Take Quantum Break for example, I didn’t need to play that game I’ve played Max Payne.

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@Juub1990 said:

@deeph: And since you can’t in any way, shape or form prove this, what leg are you standing on?

Why do I have to provide evidence when nobody is even trying to hide their abnormal love for Nintendo? Watch some podcasts.

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#292 Juub1990
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@deeph: Nice circular argument you got there.

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@Juub1990 said:

@deeph: Nice circular argument you got there.

Do you disagree? Half of the staff of IGN64, oh I mean IGN is of course not madly in love with nintendo...

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#294 Zero_epyon
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@Bread_or_Decide said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@Bread_or_Decide said:

Can we all assume Kratos dies and you play as his kid for the rest of the game? This is just a guess. I don't know anything about the game.

Already some previews saying that this is not what happens.

Ok, the kid dies, and you play the rest of the game as Kratos.

lol

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#295  Edited By stereointegrity
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@wiiboxstation: do you have Amazon prime?

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#296  Edited By Juub1990
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@deeph: Then start collecting statistical evidence. Get the number of staff members then find those among them who have an admitted bias towards Nintendo games. At least you’ll have more substance than some anecdotes.

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#297  Edited By Addict187
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@PSP107 said:
@spike6958 said:

IDK, I loved the GoW trilogy on PS2/3, I even loved the PSP titles, Ascension was fine too. But I'm just not sold on this one.

For starters I'm sick of gaming's sudden need to have me babysit kids. I'm also just overall disappointed with how toned down everything looks compared to the older games, oh and don't get me started on just how stupid Kratos looks with that damn beard.

It doesn't help that is really does look like yet another movie-game from Sony. If you like that great, but God of War was one of the few PS IP's that focused on real gameplay instead, and to see that gone in favour of making it be like every other 1st party release they have honestly makes me feel sad.

Yea let me know when its $10-$20.

You went with Xbox, My condolences, I understand but you don't have to be so salty over your loss

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#298 Calvincfb
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@xxyetixx: there's a difference in playing the same game and the perfected formula.

GOW is the perfected formula.

You sound like you're not playing GTA VI or RDR 2 because they're sequels.

You never play sequels? Imagine that...

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#299  Edited By BluFalconUltra
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Some people are still in here crying being jealous and salty over another great PS4 exclusive LOL. The reviews are great and comparing it to other great games is irrelevant. Both Sony and Nintendo have critically acclaimed games while Xbox One has none that are exclusive. At this point it does not matter what anyone thinks. The game is great, it will sell millions, fanboys will keep hating and I (like millions of others) can't wait to play it.

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#300 deactivated-60cd6c3d31f6d
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@Juub1990 said:

@deeph: Then start collecting statistical evidence. Get the number of staff members then find those among them who have an admitted bias towards Nintendo games. At least you’ll have more substance than some anecdotes.

Sorry, to much work. But Im asking again. Do you disagree? You are not new to gaming and I assume you watch/listen podcasts.