GOWIII deserved a 9 as much as ODST did.

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#51 peanutbudduh
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[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"]I'm sure when Reach scores a 9.5, you'll be the first to make a thread about how it doesn't deserve it and how overrated it is.standarddamage

We'll be sure to play the game first before passing judgements. You'vealready admitted toto basing your argument on the demo, which killed any argument you could come with after that point. The demo is nothing compared to the game itself.

The demo, I also read a few reviews. I went to rent it at blockbuster but they were out, so don't worry I will be playing it but I already know what to expect. A nice ride that will be forgotten in a couple of days.
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#52 yanbuco2712
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Is GoW really only 8-9 hours?? That kinda seems a rip off for a SP only game that short. You would think with such a short SP they could add some online to extend the life of the game some. Heck you can not even play it as co-op.

SilentlyMad

Alan wake must be a rip off then :roll:

GOW3 has challenge maps, Arena mode, Trophies, collectibles AND four difficulty levels, if that isn't alot of content then I don't know what it is.

Also, not all games are meant to be played online.

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#53 Ringx55
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ODST deserved AA
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#54 standarddamage
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It can certainly be criticized for not offering enough content to justify a full $60 price tag.peanutbudduh

Same argument can be made against ODST. Short campaign and the same maps from Halo 3? Doesn't sound like $60 material to me.

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#55 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"] ...because cows said ODST didn't deserve a 9(which I agree), so I'm saying GOWIII doesn't deserve a 9 either for the same reasons. Double standards.peanutbudduh

Again, not double standards because of differing genres. One genre offers things the other never has. As an example, most FPS games offer some kind of multiplayer, whereas very few, if any hack and slash games have ever offered multiplayer. Therefore a hack and slash cannot be criticized for not offering multiplayer... Catch my drift?

It can certainly be criticized for not offering enough content to justify a full $60 price tag.

So who determines what content is enough content? Something like that is not universal, and cannot be measured, as people have differing expectations. GOWIII offers the same content as most other hack and slash games, so why would it be compared to an FPS game? The comparison makes little to no sense.

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#56 TintedEyes
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[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]Great response! When you can not really argue anything at all but hate the thing the person said just say facepalm. SilentlyMad
I am at a loss for words from such a stupid statement.

Yep it seems you are at a loss of words since you have replied twice and still have not said anything but facepalm and that your at a loss of words. Great responses BTW keep up the great work.

You called GOW a rip, of course people are going to facepalm
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#57 KratosTwin
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[QUOTE="KratosTwin"]

[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]Is GoW really only 8-9 hours?? That kinda seems a rip a SP only game that short. You would think with such a short SP they could add some online to extend the life of the game some. Heck you can not even play it as co-op.SilentlyMad

For people that play on "easy" or "normal" probably. But it's the amazing experience and epic quality of those hours that matter. GOW3 has solid replayability.

I am not saying it is a bad game because I have not played it infact I did not even like GoW1 at all. I just think for such a short game $60 is a rip off for so few hours of game with no online or co-op.

Fair enough man, but I suggest you try the game yourself and not be swayed by other fanboys that have never even played the game. Every gamer this gen should try GOW3 at least once. It's an experience not to be missed.

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#58 SilentlyMad
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[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]

Is GoW really only 8-9 hours?? That kinda seems a rip off for a SP only game that short. You would think with such a short SP they could add some online to extend the life of the game some. Heck you can not even play it as co-op.

yanbuco2712

Alan wake must be a rip off then :roll:

GOW3 has challenge maps, Arena mode, Trophies, collectibles AND four difficulty levels, if that isn't alot of content then I don't know what it is.

Also, not all games are meant to be played online.

Oh just stop. Your saying trophies difficulty levels and the other add game length?? Also Yes if AW is only 8-9 hours then no way I would pay $60 for it.
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Is GoW really only 8-9 hours?? That kinda seems a rip off for a SP only game that short. You would think with such a short SP they could add some online to extend the life of the game some. Heck you can not even play it as co-op.

SilentlyMad

how in the world could've you added some type of online or co-op to a game like GOW? Especially a co-op with a story like that?

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#60 peanutbudduh
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[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"] It can certainly be criticized for not offering enough content to justify a full $60 price tag.standarddamage

Same argument can be made against ODST. Short campaign and the same maps from Halo 3? Doesn't sound like $60 material to me.

Of course it doesn't, but that doesn't change the fact that the same can be said about GOWIII. Cows did it to ODST so I am doing it to GOWIII.
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#61 standarddamage
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so don't worry I will be playing itpeanutbudduh

So...why not wait to start this argument until after you've actually played it?

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#62 Not-A-Stalker
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I played the crap out of both games. GOW3 kicked major ass. ODST is probably one of the worst purchases I've made.
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#63 peanutbudduh
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ODST deserved AARingx55
Just like GOWIII, I know.
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[QUOTE="yanbuco2712"]

[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]

Is GoW really only 8-9 hours?? That kinda seems a rip off for a SP only game that short. You would think with such a short SP they could add some online to extend the life of the game some. Heck you can not even play it as co-op.

SilentlyMad

Alan wake must be a rip off then :roll:

GOW3 has challenge maps, Arena mode, Trophies, collectibles AND four difficulty levels, if that isn't alot of content then I don't know what it is.

Also, not all games are meant to be played online.

Oh just stop. Your saying trophies difficulty levels and the other add game length?? Also Yes if AW is only 8-9 hours then no way I would pay $60 for it.

Of course difficulty level adds game length. Doesn't add story length, but it makes the game much more challenging, and therefore a lengthier ordeal.

Trophies adding game length depends entirely on whether or not people are trophy ******, which most probably aren't, so it can't be said that it adds game length.

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[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"][QUOTE="standarddamage"]

It can certainly be criticized for not offering enough content to justify a full $60 price tag.peanutbudduh

Same argument can be made against ODST. Short campaign and the same maps from Halo 3? Doesn't sound like $60 material to me.

Of course it doesn't, but that doesn't change the fact that the same can be said about GOWIII. Cows did it to ODST so I am doing it to GOWIII.

Thats an absolutely ridiculous reason to bash a game. "Buh buh buh they trolled first!" :cry: Makes you look worse than them.
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[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"]so don't worry I will be playing itstandarddamage

So...why not wait to start this argument until after you've actually played it?

...because I am comparing facts.
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#67 SilentlyMad
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[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]

Is GoW really only 8-9 hours?? That kinda seems a rip off for a SP only game that short. You would think with such a short SP they could add some online to extend the life of the game some. Heck you can not even play it as co-op.

ermacness

how in the world could've you added some type of online or co-op to a game like GOW? Especially a co-op with a story like that?

Spl;inter Cell has co-op but the story is about Sam Fisher. GeoW has co-op but the story is about Marcus.
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#68 peanutbudduh
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" Thats an absolutely ridiculous reason to bash a game. "Buh buh buh they trolled first!" :cry: Makes you look worse than them."

It's called being fair about it and I am. It shouldn't go without mention you know.

EDIT: Yeah so anyway, both games got a 9 and if those games had different names they would definitely NOT receive such high ratings. I think we can both agree on that.

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#69 TintedEyes
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[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]

Is GoW really only 8-9 hours?? That kinda seems a rip off for a SP only game that short. You would think with such a short SP they could add some online to extend the life of the game some. Heck you can not even play it as co-op.

SilentlyMad

how in the world could've you added some type of online or co-op to a game like GOW? Especially a co-op with a story like that?

Spl;inter Cell has co-op but the story is about Sam Fisher. GeoW has co-op but the story is about Marcus.

Gears your almost always with a squad though, so co op makes more sense, SC on the other hand the co op is separate, cant really compare
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Oh I see what's happening here, class signs of trol.... stubborness in here.

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#72 iKINGBOBi
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Is GoW really only 8-9 hours?? That kinda seems a rip off for a SP only game that short. You would think with such a short SP they could add some online to extend the life of the game some. Heck you can not even play it as co-op.

SilentlyMad

Not every game need multiplayer and co-op. Its gamers like you that are making the industry gimp single player experiences for "teh deathmatch mode"

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#73 ermacness
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[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]

Is GoW really only 8-9 hours?? That kinda seems a rip off for a SP only game that short. You would think with such a short SP they could add some online to extend the life of the game some. Heck you can not even play it as co-op.

SilentlyMad

how in the world could've you added some type of online or co-op to a game like GOW? Especially a co-op with a story like that?

Spl;inter Cell has co-op but the story is about Sam Fisher. GeoW has co-op but the story is about Marcus.

but both of those stories are not on the same lvl as GOW. To many people, both of those games have very poor stories to them. You can't compare those stories to GOW story. Those games are on very different lvl in stories

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#74 SilentlyMad
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[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"][QUOTE="yanbuco2712"]

Alan wake must be a rip off then :roll:

GOW3 has challenge maps, Arena mode, Trophies, collectibles AND four difficulty levels, if that isn't alot of content then I don't know what it is.

Also, not all games are meant to be played online.

lundy86_4

Oh just stop. Your saying trophies difficulty levels and the other add game length?? Also Yes if AW is only 8-9 hours then no way I would pay $60 for it.

Of course difficulty level adds game length. Doesn't add story length, but it makes the game much more challenging, and therefore a lengthier ordeal.

Trophies adding game length depends entirely on whether or not people are trophy ******, which most probably aren't, so it can't be said that it adds game length.

Difficulties are great but they do not act length in general.Every game has difficulty levels. I am not going to say ME2 is now a 70-90 hour game because I can play it twice on different difficulty levels.
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#75 Pug-Nasty
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[QUOTE="KratosTwin"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

GoW3 is more in the 8.5 range. ODST is more of a 10+.

GoW3 is fun, but it's not AAA stuff.

peanutbudduh

Most gamers and professinal reviewers would disagree with your opinion.

I really don't take ratings from 'professionals' into consideration considering how they can be bribed. Really don't trust GS since that whole Kane and Lynch thing.

Every opinion can be biased. For instance, you're a Halo fanboy, so you immediately bust one out every time you catch a whiff of a "new" Halo game. The fact remains that ODST came with another games MP, one that most people would have already bought and played if they were interested in Halo at all.

GOW III is pretty awesome, but you wouldn't know because you only played the demo. I've played Halo 3's MP, so I can actually make a judgement on ODST's MP, because it's the same thing.

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This is a public service announcement, I repeat, this is a public service announcement: Obvious troll is obvious. Do not feed the trolls!
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#78 XboximusPrime
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ODST was like a 40 dollar game. (leats thats what it shoudl have been.)

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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]Oh just stop. Your saying trophies difficulty levels and the other add game length?? Also Yes if AW is only 8-9 hours then no way I would pay $60 for it.SilentlyMad

Of course difficulty level adds game length. Doesn't add story length, but it makes the game much more challenging, and therefore a lengthier ordeal.

Trophies adding game length depends entirely on whether or not people are trophy ******, which most probably aren't, so it can't be said that it adds game length.

Difficulties are great but they do not act length in general.Every game has difficulty levels. I am not going to say ME2 is now a 70-90 hour game because I can play it twice on different difficulty levels.

I didn't mean playing through on differing levels, I just meant even one playthrough on hard would be longer than on easy, due to the added challenge. Again, like I said though, it doesn't add significant length to the story, as the added length is simply skin-deep (ie, die more, takes longer).

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[QUOTE="alextherussian"][QUOTE="peanutbudduh"]

Neither games deserved that score but I would even say that maybe ODST deserved it a little bit more. ODST had its own multiplayer game mode, it came with Halo 3 mp with all the mappacks and it came with a Halo Reach beta invitation. So it has way more content than GOWIII does. GOWIII has a linear 8 hour long hack n' slash campaign mode so why does that game deserve the score? With very little replay value, it really is nothing more than just a rental. Seriously a 9 for a game like GOWIII in today's standards? What is this, I don't even...

peanutbudduh
Have you played it? What are you basing you opinion on?

The double standards and the demo.

That demo was from E3 2009. Almost a full year of development happened on God of War 3 before it was released. You're basing your opinion on a finished ODST product vs. a God of War demo almost a year old. Yeah, ok troll.
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[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]

Is GoW really only 8-9 hours?? That kinda seems a rip off for a SP only game that short. You would think with such a short SP they could add some online to extend the life of the game some. Heck you can not even play it as co-op.

SilentlyMad

how in the world could've you added some type of online or co-op to a game like GOW? Especially a co-op with a story like that?

Spl;inter Cell has co-op but the story is about Sam Fisher. GeoW has co-op but the story is about Marcus.

Splinter Cell, and Gears of War are different genres. Since when did games in GOW's genre have co-op or online? I can't think of any at the moment.

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#83 SilentlyMad
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[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]

Is GoW really only 8-9 hours?? That kinda seems a rip off for a SP only game that short. You would think with such a short SP they could add some online to extend the life of the game some. Heck you can not even play it as co-op.

iKINGBOBi

Not every game need multiplayer and co-op. Its gamers like you that are making the industry gimp single player experiences for "teh deathmatch mode"

I wish so very much the SP games were more focused. My favorite games are SP games. So I agree not every game needs it but when the SP is only 8-9 hours and that is all you get then yes they need more. That is around $7.50 a hour of game play.

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I agree, ODST might be a little thin, but it had more content then GOW 3

It had a arguebly better story, with a nice noire artstyle.

It had more replayabillity, with different difficulties, meta score, different skulls and made the game more fun.

You could also play it with 4 people in co-op.

It had a theatre mode which made it possible for you to share videos and pictures with the entire community without needing a card for something.

It had a survival mode with different settings and alot of maps that you could play in split screen co-op or online.

It also included the full halo 3 multiplayer package and a halo reach beta.

So what makes GOW 3 so much better then this then the better graphics and maybe story if that's what you prefer.

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#85 SilentlyMad
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[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"][QUOTE="ermacness"]how in the world could've you added some type of online or co-op to a game like GOW? Especially a co-op with a story like that?

KratosTwin

Spl;inter Cell has co-op but the story is about Sam Fisher. GeoW has co-op but the story is about Marcus.

Splinter Cell, and Gears of War are different genres. Since when did games in GOW's genre have co-op or online? I can't think of any at the moment.

like I said in another post

I wish so very much the SP games were more focused. My favorite games are SP games. So I agree not every game needs it but when the SP is only 8-9 hours and that is all you get then yes they need more. That is around $7.50 a hour of game play.

I really do not care that much but now just responding to replies. I am just saying 8-9 and that is all you get sucks.

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Games cant be boiled down into total hours play time. It's an overall experience, and God of War is about as fun as it could be to play through, so it gets a 9.0. ODST got a 9 for similar reasons; it was a new and fresh spin on the Halo universe and really fun to play through.
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#87 KratosTwin
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[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]peanutbudduh

No. We don't all agree on that and your opinion can't be taken seriously since you haven't even played GOW3 yet. I'm beginning to see that others are right. You are nothing but trolling at the moment.

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#88 standarddamage
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...because I am comparing facts. peanutbudduh

Facts? This whole thread's been based on opinion, right down to the title. The scores these game deserved are completely opinion-based, so my question to you, again, is why not make it an educated opinion and wait until you've actually played the game?

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[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"]...because I am comparing facts. standarddamage

Facts? This whole thread's been based on opinion, right down to the title. The scores these game deserved are completely opinion-based, so my question to you, again, is why not make it an educated opinion and wait until you've actually played the game?

My original post was comparing facts.
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You can't measure the two games based on ODST standards. GoW3 is supposed to be a linear hack and slash, and I'm guessing that right now, it's the best of it's kind. Although some (many?) would argue that that witch game (forgot the name) is better. I'm sure that GoW3 deserves all the high scores that it's receiving.
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#91 iKINGBOBi
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[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]

[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"]

Is GoW really only 8-9 hours?? That kinda seems a rip off for a SP only game that short. You would think with such a short SP they could add some online to extend the life of the game some. Heck you can not even play it as co-op.

SilentlyMad

Not every game need multiplayer and co-op. Its gamers like you that are making the industry gimp single player experiences for "teh deathmatch mode"

I wish so very much the SP games were more focused. My favorite games are SP games. So I agree not every game needs it but when the SP is only 8-9 hours and that is all you get then yes they need more. That is around $6.50 a hour of game play.

The game is more like 13-14 hours. Anyone that gets through in 8-9 hours either has cheat codes on, or they're speed running the game. Super Mario 64 can be speed runned in 1 hr. Does that make it an hr long game? No. Besides, you can put the game on hard mode. PS, where were these length concerns when Bayonetta released. You seemed to have nothing but praise for the game.....

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[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"]...because I am comparing facts. standarddamage

Facts? This whole thread's been based on opinion, right down to the title. The scores these game deserved are completely opinion-based, so my question to you, again, is why not make it an educated opinion and wait until you've actually played the game?

Don't waste your time. Even when he plays the game he will force himself to hate it just to justify this ridiculous thread.

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#93 SaudiFury
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[QUOTE="alextherussian"][QUOTE="peanutbudduh"] Double Standards? The demo is 10 minutes long and quite quite old, hardly a fair representation of the final product..

[QUOTE="alextherussian"][QUOTE="peanutbudduh"] The double standards and the demo.

Double Standards? The demo is 10 minutes long and quite quite old, hardly a fair representation of the final product..

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#94 darthogre
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[QUOTE="110million"]ODST at its core is like a 4 hour campaign isn't it? All the other stuff is based around OTHER games, not ODST itself. peanutbudduh
It doesn't matter, it came with the package.

so it doesn't matter if they give you content from a 2 year old game that you already own and charge you full price for it? You do realize that even MS first said it was going to be an expansion for $39.99......then they saw they could just give you Halo 3 multiplayer and charge you $20 more bucks. Lems just drooled on themselves thinking they were playing something new lol. [QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

GoW3 is more in the 8.5 range. ODST is more of a 10+.

GoW3 is fun, but it's not AAA stuff.

I want to say you're not serious but..........you are a die hard Lem so I have to say you really think ODST deserved AAAA perfect score.
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[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"][QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]

Not every game need multiplayer and co-op. Its gamers like you that are making the industry gimp single player experiences for "teh deathmatch mode"

iKINGBOBi

I wish so very much the SP games were more focused. My favorite games are SP games. So I agree not every game needs it but when the SP is only 8-9 hours and that is all you get then yes they need more. That is around $6.50 a hour of game play.

The game is more like 13-14 hours. Anyone that gets through in 8-9 hours either has cheat codes on, or they're speed running the game. Super Mario 64 can be speed runned in 1 hr. Does that make it an hr long game? No. Besides, you can put the game on hard mode. PS, where were these length concerns when Bayonetta released. You seemed to have nothing but praise for the game.....

bu bu bu Bayonetta has teh deep combatzz.

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#96 peanutbudduh
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[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"][QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]

Not every game need multiplayer and co-op. Its gamers like you that are making the industry gimp single player experiences for "teh deathmatch mode"

iKINGBOBi

I wish so very much the SP games were more focused. My favorite games are SP games. So I agree not every game needs it but when the SP is only 8-9 hours and that is all you get then yes they need more. That is around $6.50 a hour of game play.

The game is more like 13-14 hours. Anyone that gets through in 8-9 hours either has cheat codes on, or they're speed running the game. Super Mario 64 can be speed runned in 1 hr. Does that make it an hr long game? No. Besides, you can put the game on hard mode. PS, where were these length concerns when Bayonetta released. You seemed to have nothing but praise for the game.....

No reason to lie, based on the reviews, the average person should complete it in 8-10 hours.

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[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]blue_hazy_basic
Is there any particular reason you have that in your sig?

I thought it was funny, why not
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="TintedEyes"]TintedEyes
Is there any particular reason you have that in your sig?

I thought it was funny, why not

Because it has no context. Please remove.
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[QUOTE="peanutbudduh"][QUOTE="110million"] It doesn't matter, it came with the package.darthogre
so it doesn't matter if they give you content from a 2 year old game that you already own and charge you full price for it? You do realize that even MS first said it was going to be an expansion for $39.99......then they saw they could just give you Halo 3 multiplayer and charge you $20 more bucks. Lems just drooled on themselves thinking they were playing something new lol.

GoW3 is more in the 8.5 range. ODST is more of a 10+.

GoW3 is fun, but it's not AAA stuff.

BioShockOwnz

I want to say you're not serious but..........you are a die hard Lem so I have to say you really think ODST deserved AAAA perfect score.

You do realize that I've already said that neither game is a $60 purchase?

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#100 SilentlyMad
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[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"][QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]

Not every game need multiplayer and co-op. Its gamers like you that are making the industry gimp single player experiences for "teh deathmatch mode"

iKINGBOBi

I wish so very much the SP games were more focused. My favorite games are SP games. So I agree not every game needs it but when the SP is only 8-9 hours and that is all you get then yes they need more. That is around $6.50 a hour of game play.

The game is more like 13-14 hours. Anyone that gets through in 8-9 hours either has cheat codes on, or they're speed running the game. Super Mario 64 can be speed runned in 1 hr. Does that make it an hr long game? No. Besides, you can put the game on hard mode. PS, where were these length concerns when Bayonetta released. You seemed to have nothing but praise for the game.....

I have never even played Bayonetta besides for the demo. I laughed at the PS3 version but that is it so I have no idea what you are talking about.. Also your the first person I ever heard say it was that long.