Gran Turismo 5 Prologue Spec III: The Car Model King. (56k Warning)

[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]To bad the gameplay cant come close to Forza2.kozzy1234

It can't? Why?

Forza2 gameplay >>>> GT5P gameplay, not that hard to understand

Yea...keep dreaming

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]That car model has a ton, and I mean a ton, of jaggies.:oKratos-PS3

I don't wanna sound stupid or anything, but I'm just trying to make sure.....was that sarcasm?

No just his normal PS3 bashing.

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"][QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]To bad the gameplay cant come close to Forza2.Kratos-PS3

It can't? Why?

Forza2 gameplay >>>> GT5P gameplay, not that hard to understand

Yea...keep dreaming

Forza 2's gameplay really is much better than GT5P's, only a blind GT supporter would say otherwise.

[QUOTE="Kratos-PS3"][QUOTE="kozzy1234"][QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]To bad the gameplay cant come close to Forza2.Snugenz

It can't? Why?

Forza2 gameplay >>>> GT5P gameplay, not that hard to understand

Yea...keep dreaming

Forza 2's gameplay really is much better than GT5P's, only a blind GT supporter would say otherwise.

Yea...whatever helps you sleep better at night

[QUOTE="Kratos-PS3"][QUOTE="kozzy1234"][QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]To bad the gameplay cant come close to Forza2.Snugenz

It can't? Why?

Forza2 gameplay >>>> GT5P gameplay, not that hard to understand

Yea...keep dreaming

Forza 2's gameplay really is much better than GT5P's, only a blind GT supporter would say otherwise.

The fact that you can't use a third party wheel with Forza and you can with Gran Turismo automatically makes the gameplay experience much better on GranTurismo.

The fact that you can't use a third party wheel with Forza and you can with Gran Turismo automatically makes the gameplay experience much better on GranTurismo.

EmperorSupreme

Thats the silliest thing i've ever read here on GS (well nearly), a third party wheel doesnt fix the flaws in GT that makes it inferior (gameplay wise) to Forza 2 in the first place.

[QUOTE="Snugenz"][QUOTE="masiisam"]

Yawnnn...same old thread...

Other than the car models...GT5P is garbage for a SIM....

Rikusaki

Agreed 100%, Polyphony need to forget about making the cars looking as good as possible and start making the game play as good as possible.:?

They also updated the physics... A LOT.

There is a huge difference. The cars handle more realistically and the tires feel like they are gripping to the ground more.

To me it feels much better. I can now tell when the over steer is coming on and even use it to my advantage. I think some of that is down to improved sound as I've noticed the sound of the wheels spinning is more easily discernible and dare I say it, more like the sound my cars make when they struggle for grip.

The brakes and accelerator also seem more analogue and easier to modulate.

With the sound improvements it certainly puts a smile back on my face. :D I never really liked the Spec I physics as I felt it was like driving on ice with poor feedback.

Well...the funny thing is...The physics needed an update...and I said this a 1000 times at launch..but all I heard from cows is....."Nope..they are perfect""BEST SIM EVERRS!!!" "ZOMAG!!! GT%P!!!!"....6 months later they did a very small update to the physics...It's not nearly as "big as you say they are"......It's just enough to make the set-ups I made completely useless... Again... I love how Poly can't even decide on a physics model and completely ruin the hard work "fans" put into the game...

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

The fact that you can't use a third party wheel with Forza and you can with Gran Turismo automatically makes the gameplay experience much better on GranTurismo.

Snugenz

Thats the silliest thing i've ever read here on GS (well nearly), a third party wheel doesnt fix the flaws in GT that makes it inferior (gameplay wise) to Forza 2 in the first place.

I completely agree..... I just hope......just hope..... Nobody bought a G25 just to play GT5P....Biggest waste of resources...

That's like putting 108 octane race fuel in a 67 ford Pinto

I love Gran Turismo.

I'm downloading the update right now.

I love Gran Turismo.

I'm downloading the update right now.

Rikusaki

People who say those screens don't look great are in so much denial, that it hurts.

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

I love Gran Turismo.

I'm downloading the update right now.

dream431ca

People who say those screens don't look great are in so much denial, that it hurts.

I agree.

And yes it looks that good on my Optoma DLP Projector!

Spec III, I love you.

If you play the game in 720p there is much less jaggies because it has 4x AA when in 720p.

If you play it in 1280x1080, it only has 2xAA so thats why there are so many jaggies in the OP.

[QUOTE="Snugenz"][QUOTE="Kratos-PS3"][QUOTE="kozzy1234"][QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]To bad the gameplay cant come close to Forza2.Kratos-PS3

It can't? Why?

Forza2 gameplay >>>> GT5P gameplay, not that hard to understand

Yea...keep dreaming

Forza 2's gameplay really is much better than GT5P's, only a blind GT supporter would say otherwise.

Yea...whatever helps you sleep better at night

lol silly cow.

They also updated the physics... A LOT.

There is a huge difference. The cars handle more realistically and the tires feel like they are gripping to the ground more.

To me it feels much better. I can now tell when the over steer is coming on and even use it to my advantage. I think some of that is down to improved sound as I've noticed the sound of the wheels spinning is more easily discernible and dare I say it, more like the sound my cars make when they struggle for grip.

The brakes and accelerator also seem more analogue and easier to modulate.

With the sound improvements it certainly puts a smile back on my face. :D I never really liked the Spec I physics as I felt it was like driving on ice with poor feedback.

Rikusaki

I love Gran Turismo.

I'm downloading the update right now.

Rikusaki

:|

I am confused...your pervious post commented on how the "update" made the game so much better....But your last post states you are just now DL the update??

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

@secretpolice

Those are gorgeous pics and that is a very cool thing about Forza. One of my buddies here at work says thats all he does anymore is paint cars. His don't look nearly that good, but he enjoys it.

Personally I don't even paint the cars in Need For Speed, I just care about driving. That's probably why I like GranTurismo more. GT especially with a good wheel is amazing.

Rikusaki

I agree. And I think solid colors look better anyway.

That Fable car was ugly. I would never do that to my car in real life.

And I would never want to do it to my car in Gran Turismo.

Hey man, come on,

It's not right to say the livery/auction house system sucks becouse you don't like one weird themed paintjob.

It's actually an awesome system, theres a big community in that game that builds, and tunes, and sells/buys cars. It's a big part of it. go look at forzamotorsports.net.

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

They also updated the physics... A LOT.

There is a huge difference. The cars handle more realistically and the tires feel like they are gripping to the ground more.

To me it feels much better. I can now tell when the over steer is coming on and even use it to my advantage. I think some of that is down to improved sound as I've noticed the sound of the wheels spinning is more easily discernible and dare I say it, more like the sound my cars make when they struggle for grip.

The brakes and accelerator also seem more analogue and easier to modulate.

With the sound improvements it certainly puts a smile back on my face. :D I never really liked the Spec I physics as I felt it was like driving on ice with poor feedback.

masiisam

I love Gran Turismo.

I'm downloading the update right now.

Rikusaki

:|

I am confused...your pervious post commented on how the "update" made the game so much better....But your last post states you are just now DL the update??

I played it at my friends house with the G25.

I am home now and I am downloading it for myself lol.

Sorry about that!

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

@secretpolice

Those are gorgeous pics and that is a very cool thing about Forza. One of my buddies here at work says thats all he does anymore is paint cars. His don't look nearly that good, but he enjoys it.

Personally I don't even paint the cars in Need For Speed, I just care about driving. That's probably why I like GranTurismo more. GT especially with a good wheel is amazing.

Tobin09

I agree. And I think solid colors look better anyway.

That Fable car was ugly. I would never do that to my car in real life.

And I would never want to do it to my car in Gran Turismo.

Hey man, come on,

It's not right to say the livery/auction house system sucks becouse you don't like one weird themed paintjob.

It's actually an awesome system, theres a big community in that game that builds, and tunes, and sells/buys cars. It's a big part of it. go look at forzamotorsports.net.

Yeah, thats awesome, but I could do without the custom paint and decals.

Eww decals... Cars look better naked.:P

[QUOTE="Tobin09"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]

@secretpolice

Those are gorgeous pics and that is a very cool thing about Forza. One of my buddies here at work says thats all he does anymore is paint cars. His don't look nearly that good, but he enjoys it.

Personally I don't even paint the cars in Need For Speed, I just care about driving. That's probably why I like GranTurismo more. GT especially with a good wheel is amazing.

Rikusaki

I agree. And I think solid colors look better anyway.

That Fable car was ugly. I would never do that to my car in real life.

And I would never want to do it to my car in Gran Turismo.

Hey man, come on,

It's not right to say the livery/auction house system sucks becouse you don't like one weird themed paintjob.

It's actually an awesome system, theres a big community in that game that builds, and tunes, and sells/buys cars. It's a big part of it. go look at forzamotorsports.net.

Yeah, thats awesome, but I could do without the custom paint and decals.

Eww decals... Cars look better naked.:P

I like the cars people paint with the racecar themed liverys, It's more race-like, and less showroom like. In my oppinion,

But I also agree, alot of the paints are overdone, or just kinda fugly. I'll get a picture of a few good ones here in a min.

[QUOTE="masiisam"]

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

They also updated the physics... A LOT.

There is a huge difference. The cars handle more realistically and the tires feel like they are gripping to the ground more.

To me it feels much better. I can now tell when the over steer is coming on and even use it to my advantage. I think some of that is down to improved sound as I've noticed the sound of the wheels spinning is more easily discernible and dare I say it, more like the sound my cars make when they struggle for grip.

The brakes and accelerator also seem more analogue and easier to modulate.

With the sound improvements it certainly puts a smile back on my face. :D I never really liked the Spec I physics as I felt it was like driving on ice with poor feedback.

Rikusaki

I love Gran Turismo.

I'm downloading the update right now.

Rikusaki

:|

I am confused...your pervious post commented on how the "update" made the game so much better....But your last post states you are just now DL the update??

I played it at my friends house with the G25.

I am home now and I am downloading it for myself lol.

Sorry about that!

:evil: Damn....thought I had yea....;)

These are all user created, race themed, I like them.

Adds a lil better atmosphere to the game, especially online, It's kinda boring racing against bonestock A.I cars in career though...

Those pictures above are amazing, I don't think it's the car models that make it look so good, I think it's the lighting becouse if you haven't noticed it seems like some colors look alot more realistic than others. The lighting those pholphony guys have came up with is godlike.Tobin09

The lighing is very realistic in Gran Turismo. And the environments help add the realism.

Here are a few more pics:

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Forza2 gameplay >>>> GT5P gameplay, not that hard to understand

Kratos-PS3

Yea...keep dreaming

Rikusaki what's you PSN ID I want to add you to my friend list. Mine is Killuminati.-Renegade

Mine is Rikusaki.

I love you too :D

[QUOTE="Kratos-PS3"][QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Forza2 gameplay >>>> GT5P gameplay, not that hard to understand

foxhound_fox

Yea...keep dreaming

And that pretty much sums it up.....

360 owners will enjoy RacePRO in a few months (damn delay).... Simbin's history speaks for itself..... and FM3 by the time GT5 hits the market..

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Kratos-PS3"][QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Forza2 gameplay >>>> GT5P gameplay, not that hard to understand

masiisam

Yea...keep dreaming

And that pretty much sums it up.....

360 owners will enjoy RacePRO in a few months (damn delay).... Simbin's history speaks for itself..... and FM3 by the time GT5 hits the market..

But I love Grean Tursimo.

I tried all the other racing games.

I don't know.... It just doesn't feel right. I don't get the same pleasure out of it that I get from Gran Turismo.

Gran Turismo has something special that no other racing game can replicate. I don't know what it is though.

I hope you guys know what I'm talking about.

[QUOTE="masiisam"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Kratos-PS3"][QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Forza2 gameplay >>>> GT5P gameplay, not that hard to understand

Rikusaki

Yea...keep dreaming

And that pretty much sums it up.....

360 owners will enjoy RacePRO in a few months (damn delay).... Simbin's history speaks for itself..... and FM3 by the time GT5 hits the market..

But I love Grean Tursimo.

I tried all the other racing games.

I don't know.... It just doesn't feel right. I don't get the same pleasure out of it that I get from Gran Turismo.

Gran Turismo has something special that no other racing game can replicate. I don't know what it is though.

I hope you guys know what I'm talking about.

Don't actually drive real cars much, do you?

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="masiisam"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

You've obviously never played Forza 2.

Those of us who enjoy playing racing games for the racing will continue to play the Forza games. Those people who enjoy playing racing for the car models can continue to wait for GT5 to come out in 2010.AlphaGamer469

And that pretty much sums it up.....

360 owners will enjoy RacePRO in a few months (damn delay).... Simbin's history speaks for itself..... and FM3 by the time GT5 hits the market..

But I love Grean Tursimo.

I tried all the other racing games.

I don't know.... It just doesn't feel right. I don't get the same pleasure out of it that I get from Gran Turismo.

Gran Turismo has something special that no other racing game can replicate. I don't know what it is though.

I hope you guys know what I'm talking about.

Don't actually drive real cars much, do you?

lol No I don't drive yet!

But that's not the point. I'm talking about this...thing that Gran Turismo has. It's not the graphics and it's not the gameplay.

I don't know, but whatever it is, Gran Turismo has it and they have it good.

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="masiisam"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Kratos-PS3"][QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Forza2 gameplay >>>> GT5P gameplay, not that hard to understand

AlphaGamer469

Yea...keep dreaming

And that pretty much sums it up.....

360 owners will enjoy RacePRO in a few months (damn delay).... Simbin's history speaks for itself..... and FM3 by the time GT5 hits the market..

But I love Grean Tursimo.

I tried all the other racing games.

I don't know.... It just doesn't feel right. I don't get the same pleasure out of it that I get from Gran Turismo.

Gran Turismo has something special that no other racing game can replicate. I don't know what it is though.

I hope you guys know what I'm talking about.

Don't actually drive real cars much, do you?

I drive, been driving for 7 years now but I don't see how that helps any. I don't think I can compare driving my 85' buick riviera to school or to run erins to a corvette going full throttle on a racing track.

And I have noticed a major update in the physics engine:

Just some quick first impressions:

1. Cars feel a bit more connected to the road. Even less of the driving on ice feeling now. Takes a bit more provoking to get it sideways, but once your there it feels like its for a reason.

2. No more creep across the pavement! Drive onto the banking at daytona and apply the brakes. The car plants itself......finally.

3. Could be my imagination, but it feels as though low speed physics have slightly improved.

4. Turn off abs. At daytona where you first come back onto the banking after the infield section apply heavy braking without locking up. The tires sound like they're skipping along the bumps in that section now. Never noticed that before.

Thats from about 30mins. driving.

Conclusion: Yes.....something is different:D

Rikusaki

Try the Ferrari California, Pro Physics, no ABS no TCS, with the new update, its a wheel spinning beast! heavy on the front and tough to drive, but its one of the most fun in the game

Haven't driven the GT, but the Evora was too slidy, too limp on acceleration and sounds like a hoover!, but knock it round a corner on the correct Apex and you know its a Lotus

I hope you guys know what I'm talking about.Rikusaki

Yes, that you're a damned troll who can't think of anything to talk about other than the graphics of a game to hide the obvious gameplay flaws. Stop. Please. These threads got old a looooooooooong time ago.:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|

And besides, the graphics in Midnight Club: Los Angeles look better and more technically proficent because of the pedestrians and other cars on the road. :|

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]I hope you guys know what I'm talking about.ferrarimanf355

Yes, that you're a damned troll who can't think of anything to talk about other than the graphics of a game to hide the obvious gameplay flaws. Stop. Please. These threads got old a looooooooooong time ago.:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|:|

And besides, the graphics in Midnight Club: Los Angeles look better and more technically proficent because of the pedestrians and other cars on the road. :|

Obvious gameplay flaws? You're talking about the most successful racing simulator series in history. calm down fella.

Gran Turismo has something special that no other racing game can replicate. I don't know what it is though.Rikusaki

Obvious gameplay flaws? You're talking about the most successful racing simulator series in history. calm down fella. SambaLele

Try the Ferrari California, Pro Physics, no ABS no TCS, with the new update, its a wheel spinning beast! heavy on the front and tough to drive, but its one of the most fun in the game

Haven't driven the GT, but the Evora was too slidy, too limp on acceleration and sounds like a hoover!, but knock it round a corner on the correct Apex and you know its a Lotus

WWIAB

WHAT? Are you kidding me? The California is one of the most easy to drive super cars in the game. lol Sure it whips around corners often, but it grip is great for corrections.

And by teh way. YOU need to get that 1.000.000 GT because it is the most insane car you will drive in the game.

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"].ferrarimanf355

And besides, the graphics in Midnight Club: Los Angeles look better

I've seen trailers for that game and your statement is completely false.

Sure its colorful and stylish, but not as good or better.

[QUOTE="masiisam"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Kratos-PS3"][QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Forza2 gameplay >>>> GT5P gameplay, not that hard to understand

Rikusaki

Yea...keep dreaming

And that pretty much sums it up.....

360 owners will enjoy RacePRO in a few months (damn delay).... Simbin's history speaks for itself..... and FM3 by the time GT5 hits the market..

But I love Grean Tursimo.

I tried all the other racing games.

I don't know.... It just doesn't feel right. I don't get the same pleasure out of it that I get from Gran Turismo.

Gran Turismo has something special that no other racing game can replicate. I don't know what it is though.

I hope you guys know what I'm talking about.

I understand...GT5P as an arcade racer is freaking awesome....as a SIM it's garbage..

lol No I don't drive yet!

But that's not the point. I'm talking about this...thing that Gran Turismo has. It's not the graphics and it's not the gameplay.

I don't know, but whatever it is, Gran Turismo has it and they have it good.

Rikusaki

That's my point. If you have never actually driven a car, then you don't realize how hokey GT is as an alledged driving sim. That's why Forxa is so much better, it's far mre accurate as to what driving a car is actually like...

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

lol No I don't drive yet!

But that's not the point. I'm talking about this...thing that Gran Turismo has. It's not the graphics and it's not the gameplay.

I don't know, but whatever it is, Gran Turismo has it and they have it good.

AlphaGamer469

That's my point. If you have never actually driven a car, then you don't realize how hokey GT is as an alledged driving sim. That's why Forxa is so much better, it's far mre accurate as to what driving a car is actually like...

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="masiisam"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Kratos-PS3"][QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Forza2 gameplay >>>> GT5P gameplay, not that hard to understand

masiisam

Yea...keep dreaming

And that pretty much sums it up.....

360 owners will enjoy RacePRO in a few months (damn delay).... Simbin's history speaks for itself..... and FM3 by the time GT5 hits the market..

But I love Grean Tursimo.

I tried all the other racing games.

I don't know.... It just doesn't feel right. I don't get the same pleasure out of it that I get from Gran Turismo.

Gran Turismo has something special that no other racing game can replicate. I don't know what it is though.

I hope you guys know what I'm talking about.

I understand...GT5P as an arcade racer is freaking awesome....as a SIM it's garbage..

What would you consider a sim?

If anyone was still wondering, damage is still planned to hit GT5P this fall...

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-172136.aspx

I understand...GT5P as an arcade racer is freaking awesome....as a SIM it's garbage..

masiisam

You should call the car manufacturers and let them know. I don't see anyone running to Microsoft or EA. Car manufacturers themselves work with the GranTurismo team and even use GranTurismo technology to demo their cars, but yeh it must be garbage.

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/10/02/paris-2008-the-gt-by-citroen-no-the-whole-thing-this-time/

"With GTbyCITROËN, a show-car presented at the 2008 Paris Motor Show, Citroën becomes the first vehicle manufacturer to cross over to the virtual worlds: An original take on a road car, GTbyCITROËN The car is the result of a partnership between Citroën and Polyphony, designer of the driving simulation game Gran Turismo 5 on Playstation 3."

Nissan GT-R

You should call the car manufacturers and let them know. I don't see anyone running to Microsoft or EA. Car manufacturers themselves work with the GranTurismo team and even use GranTurismo technology to demo their cars, but yeh it must be garbage.EmperorSupreme

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]That car model has a ton, and I mean a ton, of jaggies.:o-Renegade

Because Forza 2(the best racer on the 360) looks sooooo much better.

Is it suppose to look like that? :? There's jaggies EVERYWHERE.

it plays better.

What would you consider a sim?

W1NGMAN-

GTR..GTR2..Race 07...to name just a few

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]You should call the car manufacturers and let them know. I don't see anyone running to Microsoft or EA. Car manufacturers themselves work with the GranTurismo team and even use GranTurismo technology to demo their cars, but yeh it must be garbage.Makari

Dude your post was so full of bad logic, that you don't even understand the migrane i am developing right now.

[QUOTE="AlphaGamer469"][QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

lol No I don't drive yet!

But that's not the point. I'm talking about this...thing that Gran Turismo has. It's not the graphics and it's not the gameplay.

I don't know, but whatever it is, Gran Turismo has it and they have it good.

SecretPolice

That's my point. If you have never actually driven a car, then you don't realize how hokey GT is as an alledged driving sim. That's why Forxa is so much better, it's far mre accurate as to what driving a car is actually like...

Dude have you really played FORZA 2 online? Just cause it has damage, doesn't stop people from bashing into each other. Or using other cars as cushions on turns, you need to realize this.

GT5 isn't going to be so realistic that once you get hit you'll fly off your couch into your T.V, if your not wearing sometype of seat belt. GT5 will be fun... Forza 2 is fun... there are certain things you can't stop gamers from doing in your game unless you want to make it not fun. Forza 2 is every much a bumper car sim as GT5....by your logic.