[QUOTE="RoslindaleOne"] It should be fun times! Malta_1980
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That's half a month away, this thread will be unstickied probably today anyway.
in that case another one would surely be created or else everything would be discussed in the E3/Sony sticky
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Yeah another will likely be created and stickied. Anyone remember the incredible size of the GT5 hype thread? Think that got to around 10000-12000 posts before it died.
That's half a month away, this thread will be unstickied probably today anyway.
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in that case another one would surely be created or else everything would be discussed in the E3/Sony sticky
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Yeah another will likely be created and stickied. Anyone remember the incredible size of the GT5 hype thread? Think that got to around 10000-12000 posts before it died.
Funny thing is probably 75% of the post were all posted by raging haters :PÂ
The GT series has gone so far downhill that I just can't get excited about this one.
I love me some driving games but the real simulators are ALL on PC, the most fun 'arcade-sim' racers are on Xbox (Forza and PGR series) and the best MP's come from Codemasters and are faaaaar superior on PC.
GT5 Mustangs '70 Trans Cammer '71 Mach 1 '07 GT '05 GT '00 Cobra R '65 Shelby GT Such a joke. Where is the 2003/04 Mach1, 03/04 Cobra, 86 SVO, 70 Boss, 2011-13 Boss, Cobra Jet, V6 mustangs? 64-66 Mustangs- 1 car in game 67-68 Mustangs- 0 car in game 69-70 Mustangs- 1 car in game 71-73 Mustangs- 0 car in game 74-78 Mustangs II- 0 car in game 79-86 Mustangs- 0 car in game 87-93 Mustangs- 0 car in game 94-95 Mustangs- 0 car in game 96-98 Mustangs- 0 car in gmae 99-04 Mustangs- 1 car in game 05-09 Mustangs- 2 cars in gmae 2010 Mustangs- 0 car in game 11-current Mustangs- 0 car in game 13 generations of Ford Mustangs and only 5 Mustangs total in one of the BEST racing games of all times?!?!?!..... https://www.google.com/search?q=mustangs+in+gt5&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari Forza 4 is a joke too with 8 whooping mustangs. 1978 Mustang King Cobra 1965 Mustang GT Coupe 1970 Mustang Boss 429 1971 Mustang Mach1 2005 Mustang GT 1995 Mustang Cobra R 2000 Mustang Cobra R 2013 Mustang Boss 302 Where is the 2008 Mustang Bullitt, 1997 Saleen 351s, 2008 Parnella Jones eddition? What about Grand Am and Rolex Mustangs? The same thing goes for Camaro's. Oh but don't you worry you will get 20 of the same Nissan Sedan. Mustangs are sh!t cars. They're a wannabe sportscar for rednecks that can't afford a proper sportscar. To google Mustang GT vs BMW M3 Motrend and get back with me. The Mustang won. Shouldn't say such a blind statement. Go google the Camaro SS 1LE and tell me that's trash. Ill do it for you. Article http://m.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1010_2011_2011_ford_mustang_gt_vs_2011_bmw_m3_comparison/ Video http://m.motortrend.com/av/roadtests/1008_2011_ford_mustang_gt_2011_bmw_m3_coupe_comparison_video/ That's a Mustang GT beating an M3 around the track for half the price. Camaro SS 1LE vs Mustang GT with track pack http://youtu.be/dtmku2Lw5es Now please go away.
To google Mustang GT vs BMW M3 Motrend and get back with me. The Mustang won. Shouldn't say such a blind statement. Go google the Camaro SS 1LE and tell me that's trash. Ill do it for you. Article http://m.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1010_2011_2011_ford_mustang_gt_vs_2011_bmw_m3_comparison/ Video http://m.motortrend.com/av/roadtests/1008_2011_ford_mustang_gt_2011_bmw_m3_coupe_comparison_video/ That's a Mustang GT beating an M3 around the track for half the price. Camaro SS 1LE vs Mustang GT with track pack http://youtu.be/dtmku2Lw5es Now please go away.caseypayne69
Dont wry Mustangs are great cars... I personally prefer European sports cars along Nissan ones but thats just me !!
in that case another one would surely be created or else everything would be discussed in the E3/Sony sticky
Malta_1980
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Yeah another will likely be created and stickied. Anyone remember the incredible size of the GT5 hype thread? Think that got to around 10000-12000 posts before it died.
Funny thing is probably 75% of the post were all posted by raging haters :PÂ
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True, there was a lot of blind hate from people who had never played and would likely never play the game, but there was occasionally a nice discussion about the game itself.
[QUOTE="Nuck81"][QUOTE="caseypayne69"] GT5 Mustangs '70 Trans Cammer '71 Mach 1 '07 GT '05 GT '00 Cobra R '65 Shelby GT Such a joke. Where is the 2003/04 Mach1, 03/04 Cobra, 86 SVO, 70 Boss, 2011-13 Boss, Cobra Jet, V6 mustangs? 64-66 Mustangs- 1 car in game 67-68 Mustangs- 0 car in game 69-70 Mustangs- 1 car in game 71-73 Mustangs- 0 car in game 74-78 Mustangs II- 0 car in game 79-86 Mustangs- 0 car in game 87-93 Mustangs- 0 car in game 94-95 Mustangs- 0 car in game 96-98 Mustangs- 0 car in gmae 99-04 Mustangs- 1 car in game 05-09 Mustangs- 2 cars in gmae 2010 Mustangs- 0 car in game 11-current Mustangs- 0 car in game 13 generations of Ford Mustangs and only 5 Mustangs total in one of the BEST racing games of all times?!?!?!..... https://www.google.com/search?q=mustangs+in+gt5&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari Forza 4 is a joke too with 8 whooping mustangs. 1978 Mustang King Cobra 1965 Mustang GT Coupe 1970 Mustang Boss 429 1971 Mustang Mach1 2005 Mustang GT 1995 Mustang Cobra R 2000 Mustang Cobra R 2013 Mustang Boss 302 Where is the 2008 Mustang Bullitt, 1997 Saleen 351s, 2008 Parnella Jones eddition? What about Grand Am and Rolex Mustangs? The same thing goes for Camaro's. Oh but don't you worry you will get 20 of the same Nissan Sedan. caseypayne69
Mustangs are sh!t cars. They're a wannabe sportscar for rednecks that can't afford a proper sportscar. To google Mustang GT vs BMW M3 Motrend and get back with me. The Mustang won. Shouldn't say such a blind statement. Go google the Camaro SS 1LE and tell me that's trash. Ill do it for you. Article http://m.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1010_2011_2011_ford_mustang_gt_vs_2011_bmw_m3_comparison/ Video http://m.motortrend.com/av/roadtests/1008_2011_ford_mustang_gt_2011_bmw_m3_coupe_comparison_video/ That's a Mustang GT beating an M3 around the track for half the price. Camaro SS 1LE vs Mustang GT with track pack http://youtu.be/dtmku2Lw5es Now please go away.
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Sweet cars no doubt, it is a shame there are not enough of these in GT. Having said that though, I do prefer European cars, wouldn't mind it if they got rid of some of the Japanese cars and added a few more European and muscle cars.
[QUOTE="Nuck81"][QUOTE="caseypayne69"] GT5 Mustangs '70 Trans Cammer '71 Mach 1 '07 GT '05 GT '00 Cobra R '65 Shelby GT Such a joke. Where is the 2003/04 Mach1, 03/04 Cobra, 86 SVO, 70 Boss, 2011-13 Boss, Cobra Jet, V6 mustangs? 64-66 Mustangs- 1 car in game 67-68 Mustangs- 0 car in game 69-70 Mustangs- 1 car in game 71-73 Mustangs- 0 car in game 74-78 Mustangs II- 0 car in game 79-86 Mustangs- 0 car in game 87-93 Mustangs- 0 car in game 94-95 Mustangs- 0 car in game 96-98 Mustangs- 0 car in gmae 99-04 Mustangs- 1 car in game 05-09 Mustangs- 2 cars in gmae 2010 Mustangs- 0 car in game 11-current Mustangs- 0 car in game 13 generations of Ford Mustangs and only 5 Mustangs total in one of the BEST racing games of all times?!?!?!..... https://www.google.com/search?q=mustangs+in+gt5&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari Forza 4 is a joke too with 8 whooping mustangs. 1978 Mustang King Cobra 1965 Mustang GT Coupe 1970 Mustang Boss 429 1971 Mustang Mach1 2005 Mustang GT 1995 Mustang Cobra R 2000 Mustang Cobra R 2013 Mustang Boss 302 Where is the 2008 Mustang Bullitt, 1997 Saleen 351s, 2008 Parnella Jones eddition? What about Grand Am and Rolex Mustangs? The same thing goes for Camaro's. Oh but don't you worry you will get 20 of the same Nissan Sedan. caseypayne69
Mustangs are sh!t cars. They're a wannabe sportscar for rednecks that can't afford a proper sportscar. To google Mustang GT vs BMW M3 Motrend and get back with me. The Mustang won. Shouldn't say such a blind statement. Go google the Camaro SS 1LE and tell me that's trash. Ill do it for you. Article http://m.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1010_2011_2011_ford_mustang_gt_vs_2011_bmw_m3_comparison/ Video http://m.motortrend.com/av/roadtests/1008_2011_ford_mustang_gt_2011_bmw_m3_coupe_comparison_video/ That's a Mustang GT beating an M3 around the track for half the price. Camaro SS 1LE vs Mustang GT with track pack http://youtu.be/dtmku2Lw5es Now please go away.
If I had a choice, I'd pick the M3 since it's a much nicer car IMO. It's not just about power.
[QUOTE="BPoole96"] That looked beyond unimpressiveHAZE-Unit
I was about to say this. They put a lot of emphasis into the physics but ruin the experience with sub par sounds, boring graphics, and just too clean of a look. There is no sense of speed or thrill, hitting the corners at high speeds has no real impact. They could do so much to improve the look and feel of the game to match the superb physics yet they just don't do it.
Turn 10 does. Makes the games a lot more fun to play.Â
Now that is not true, Forza couldn't dream of making you feel the rush in GT5! probably most people who played both games would agree with me.
In GT5 it's like they have every bump on the road recreated and on top speed you get the feeling of the car hitting those bumps and constantly shakes while driving.
These are just two examples of how authentic the driving in GT looks and feels.
Even the engine sounds here are more true to life, the problem is half of the cars maybe more doesn't sound like that.
EDIT: I think the problem with that video is the cam recording, plus it's a demo of an unfinished game that needs 5-6 months so maybe they didn't "switch on" all of the effects and stuff like that yet.
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Sorry, but Forza 4's engine sound effects and racing sound effects are much more realistic and true to life. ESPECIALLY in that video. Honestly, you tried to prove how GT is better, yet you did the reverse. The game isn't "unfinished". What you see is 90% what you'll be getting come release day. Don't expect drastic changes. You're only setting yourself up for disappointmentÂ
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If you think those gameplay videos are "authentic" and "true to life" you A) Never see what it's like to be in a High performance car with a GoPro attached to the drivers helmet, or B) never played Shift 2.Â
Qoute) Will there be Standard Cars in GT6? We wont be making all the Standard cars from GT5 into Premium models, and we wont make all of the GT5s Standard cars fully Premiumized. Up until now, we used to categorize them as Standard and Premium because there were functional differences between them: some of the Standard models might not have tuning parts, or couldnt be used in Photo Mode. That will all be cleared so every model can be used in Photo Mode, and every car can have parts fitted for it. In terms of graphics quality, the bad quality Standard models weve updated so they look better. and (Quote)
I tell you if PD cant even finish a ps3 game with all the time they had .. i wonder how in the hell well they ever finish a gt game on the Ps4. Like i said before to you gt fans have fun driving standard cars in gt7 and gt8 on the ps4
I was about to say this. They put a lot of emphasis into the physics but ruin the experience with sub par sounds, boring graphics, and just too clean of a look. There is no sense of speed or thrill, hitting the corners at high speeds has no real impact. They could do so much to improve the look and feel of the game to match the superb physics yet they just don't do it.
Turn 10 does. Makes the games a lot more fun to play.Â
Rayne718
Now that is not true, Forza couldn't dream of making you feel the rush in GT5! probably most people who played both games would agree with me.
In GT5 it's like they have every bump on the road recreated and on top speed you get the feeling of the car hitting those bumps and constantly shakes while driving.
These are just two examples of how authentic the driving in GT looks and feels.
Even the engine sounds here are more true to life, the problem is half of the cars maybe more doesn't sound like that.
EDIT: I think the problem with that video is the cam recording, plus it's a demo of an unfinished game that needs 5-6 months so maybe they didn't "switch on" all of the effects and stuff like that yet.
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Sorry, but Forza 4's engine sound effects and racing sound effects are much more realistic and true to life. ESPECIALLY in that video. Honestly, you tried to prove how GT is better, yet you did the reverse. The game isn't "unfinished". What you see is 90% what you'll be getting come release day. Don't expect drastic changes. You're only setting yourself up for disappointmentÂ
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If you think those gameplay videos are "authentic" and "true to life" you A) Never see what it's like to be in a High performance car with a GoPro attached to the drivers helmet, or B) never played Shift 2.Â
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Isn't Shift 2 supposed to be a cross between arcade and sim racing? I've read it's supposed to be more "accessible" than typical sim racers, so how can that be more realistic than Forza or GT5?Â
[QUOTE="caseypayne69"][QUOTE="Nuck81"]Mustangs are sh!t cars. They're a wannabe sportscar for rednecks that can't afford a proper sportscar.dream431ca
To google Mustang GT vs BMW M3 Motrend and get back with me. The Mustang won. Shouldn't say such a blind statement. Go google the Camaro SS 1LE and tell me that's trash. Ill do it for you. Article http://m.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1010_2011_2011_ford_mustang_gt_vs_2011_bmw_m3_comparison/ Video http://m.motortrend.com/av/roadtests/1008_2011_ford_mustang_gt_2011_bmw_m3_coupe_comparison_video/ That's a Mustang GT beating an M3 around the track for half the price. Camaro SS 1LE vs Mustang GT with track pack http://youtu.be/dtmku2Lw5es Now please go away.
If I had a choice, I'd pick the M3 since it's a much nicer car IMO. It's not just about power.
M3's are amazing yes but they are also $70,000. The average consumer can afford a $33,000 Mustang GT that will walk an M3. Get a Boss or GT500 and it only gets worse for the M3. I love M3's but if I'm buying something for a car for the track days. I'm getting a Corvette Z06, Camaro SS 1LE or Mustang Boss.
it seems like everyone talks about how GT isn't the supreme racing game anymore and forza is better then GT sells over 5 million copies, how about you guys just stfu about which is better and just enjoy both or just let them live in peace together.Â
Now that is not true, Forza couldn't dream of making you feel the rush in GT5! probably most people who played both games would agree with me.
In GT5 it's like they have every bump on the road recreated and on top speed you get the feeling of the car hitting those bumps and constantly shakes while driving.
These are just two examples of how authentic the driving in GT looks and feels.
Even the engine sounds here are more true to life, the problem is half of the cars maybe more doesn't sound like that.
EDIT: I think the problem with that video is the cam recording, plus it's a demo of an unfinished game that needs 5-6 months so maybe they didn't "switch on" all of the effects and stuff like that yet.
HAZE-Unit
Wow, that comparion is like night and day. Forza looks like an early gen game and GT looks like a late gen game, and Forza 4 came out like a year later? The physics, reflections on the car, lighting, shadows, environment, detail, overall graphics. Forza sounds louder though, like your head is under the hood with the engine, instead of in the car with a helmet on. Maybe some people prefer it but I don't know that it's more realistic. GT6 physics look much improved as well, Forza seems like an arcade racer in comparison. I hope turn 10 learns for their next game.
[QUOTE="jessejay420"] i predict a 7.5-8.0 for GT6 here at Gamespot_Matt_
i'm sure it will do well in retail and in reviews but man gt5 was a friggin disaster.
that game literally did not hold up to standards that 8 to 10 year old games like pgr or  need for speed or  really almost any other race game that has came out in almost the last decade.
cartoon kart games have not had 20 digit friends codes for years  for crying out loud.
poly is dead to me because they think they can ride on the coattails of past glory and people will put up with it.
oh wait look at the sales of gt5... they will put up with it.
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What friend codes?!
You never responded to me last time I asked this, but there are no friend codes in GT5, where are you getting this made up fact from? I may not have played that much online, but it still uses standard psn friends.
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"Furthermore, there's no easy way to invite friends into sessions that you're playing in or even hosting. Friends can join the game you're playing in by visiting your in-game profile, but there's no quick way for you to send them an invite that they can simply choose to accept. Each room is also assigned a unique 20-digit code that you can distribute to anyone who isn't on your friends list via forums and such, which is a functional if inelegant way to get people into your room, and a necessary evil given the lack of matchmaking."
Now that is not true, Forza couldn't dream of making you feel the rush in GT5! probably most people who played both games would agree with me.
In GT5 it's like they have every bump on the road recreated and on top speed you get the feeling of the car hitting those bumps and constantly shakes while driving.
These are just two examples of how authentic the driving in GT looks and feels.
Even the engine sounds here are more true to life, the problem is half of the cars maybe more doesn't sound like that.
EDIT: I think the problem with that video is the cam recording, plus it's a demo of an unfinished game that needs 5-6 months so maybe they didn't "switch on" all of the effects and stuff like that yet.
Mandingo101
Wow, that comparion is like night and day. Forza looks like an early gen game and GT looks like a late gen game, and Forza 4 came out like a year later? The physics, reflections on the car, lighting, shadows, environment, detail, overall graphics. Forza sounds louder though, like your head is under the hood with the engine, instead of in the car with a helmet on. Maybe some people prefer it but I don't know that it's more realistic. GT6 physics look much improved as well, Forza seems like an arcade racer in comparison. I hope turn 10 learns for their next game.
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Gran Turismo is feely. Don't get me wrong, Forza is good but Gran Turismo just feels better. Audio is better too, even though that's one of the things people complain about most.
We wont be making all the Standard cars from GT5 into Premium models, and we wont make all of the GT5s Standard cars fully Premiumized.
Up until now, we used to categorize them as Standard and Premium because there were functional differences between them: some of the Standard models might not have tuning parts, or couldnt be used in Photo Mode. Â That will all be cleared so every model can be used in Photo Mode, and every car can have parts fitted for it.
In terms of graphics quality, the bad quality Standard models weve updated so they look better.
Will all of the cars have interior views?
No.
(Editors note: This apparently does not apply to all of the cars which were listed as Standard in GT5. For example, two cars which were prominently featured in the GT6 trailer and its first official batch of screenshots, the Lamborghini Countach LP400 and Alpine A110 1600S, both appeared as Standard cars in GT5 but have apparently been converted to full Premium models with interiors in GT6.)"
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And people want PS3 cars on PS4? how about PS2 cars on PS4? lol.
Gran Turismo is feely. Don't get me wrong, Forza is good but Gran Turismo just feels better. Audio is better too, even though that's one of the things people complain about most.
Masenkoe
It's also pushing, what, 50% more pixels? And more cars, I think 16 vs 12?
GT6 trailer at 60 frames looks spectacular. Seriously, I really don't know how people can say that they can't tell a difference between frame-rates when the differences are like night and day and the overall visual quality is just amazing.
And obviously, download it and watch it on your PS3 because there aren't many video players on the PC that play 60frames the correct way, they all are made for 30 frames or lower. Another thing is, the suspension work, OMG... There's a part in the trailer where they show in slow-motion how the weight of the car shifts through the suspensions and it's crazy! Physics are like on another level.
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edit: well, forget what I said, the trailer's like a bull-video according to Eurogamer but still is worth watching just because of the frame-rate. :(
[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]i'm sure it will do well in retail and in reviews but man gt5 was a friggin disaster.
that game literally did not hold up to standards that 8 to 10 year old games like pgr or  need for speed or  really almost any other race game that has came out in almost the last decade.
cartoon kart games have not had 20 digit friends codes for years  for crying out loud.
poly is dead to me because they think they can ride on the coattails of past glory and people will put up with it.
oh wait look at the sales of gt5... they will put up with it.
Riverwolf007
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What friend codes?!
You never responded to me last time I asked this, but there are no friend codes in GT5, where are you getting this made up fact from? I may not have played that much online, but it still uses standard psn friends.
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"Furthermore, there's no easy way to invite friends into sessions that you're playing in or even hosting. Friends can join the game you're playing in by visiting your in-game profile, but there's no quick way for you to send them an invite that they can simply choose to accept. Each room is also assigned a unique 20-digit code that you can distribute to anyone who isn't on your friends list via forums and such, which is a functional if inelegant way to get people into your room, and a necessary evil given the lack of matchmaking."
Oh, you mean the room codes? Yeah, pretty certain that got patched within the first month or so. The online got overhauled in it's first major update too.
Now that is not true, Forza couldn't dream of making you feel the rush in GT5! probably most people who played both games would agree with me.
In GT5 it's like they have every bump on the road recreated and on top speed you get the feeling of the car hitting those bumps and constantly shakes while driving.
These are just two examples of how authentic the driving in GT looks and feels.
Even the engine sounds here are more true to life, the problem is half of the cars maybe more doesn't sound like that.
EDIT: I think the problem with that video is the cam recording, plus it's a demo of an unfinished game that needs 5-6 months so maybe they didn't "switch on" all of the effects and stuff like that yet.
Jag85
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Sorry, but Forza 4's engine sound effects and racing sound effects are much more realistic and true to life. ESPECIALLY in that video. Honestly, you tried to prove how GT is better, yet you did the reverse. The game isn't "unfinished". What you see is 90% what you'll be getting come release day. Don't expect drastic changes. You're only setting yourself up for disappointmentÂ
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If you think those gameplay videos are "authentic" and "true to life" you A) Never see what it's like to be in a High performance car with a GoPro attached to the drivers helmet, or B) never played Shift 2.Â
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Isn't Shift 2 supposed to be a cross between arcade and sim racing? I've read it's supposed to be more "accessible" than typical sim racers, so how can that be more realistic than Forza or GT5?Â
Shift 2 takes a bit more knowledge in tuning to get the most of the cars. It's not at it's best to just hop in and drive. The default setups for the higher end cars are all incredibly soft and horrible.
Now that is not true, Forza couldn't dream of making you feel the rush in GT5! probably most people who played both games would agree with me.
In GT5 it's like they have every bump on the road recreated and on top speed you get the feeling of the car hitting those bumps and constantly shakes while driving.
These are just two examples of how authentic the driving in GT looks and feels.
Even the engine sounds here are more true to life, the problem is half of the cars maybe more doesn't sound like that.
EDIT: I think the problem with that video is the cam recording, plus it's a demo of an unfinished game that needs 5-6 months so maybe they didn't "switch on" all of the effects and stuff like that yet.
Masenkoe
Wow, that comparion is like night and day. Forza looks like an early gen game and GT looks like a late gen game, and Forza 4 came out like a year later? The physics, reflections on the car, lighting, shadows, environment, detail, overall graphics. Forza sounds louder though, like your head is under the hood with the engine, instead of in the car with a helmet on. Maybe some people prefer it but I don't know that it's more realistic. GT6 physics look much improved as well, Forza seems like an arcade racer in comparison. I hope turn 10 learns for their next game.
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Gran Turismo is feely. Don't get me wrong, Forza is good but Gran Turismo just feels better. Audio is better too, even though that's one of the things people complain about most.
Even the earlier GT games, like Gran Turismo 3, offer a more authentic driving exerience than Forza 4. The bumps in the road, the sense of grip and the attention to detail are just some of what makes the driving experience in Gran Turismo unique.
[QUOTE="Mandingo101"] Wow, that comparion is like night and day. Forza looks like an early gen game and GT looks like a late gen game, and Forza 4 came out like a year later? The physics, reflections on the car, lighting, shadows, environment, detail, overall graphics. Forza sounds louder though, like your head is under the hood with the engine, instead of in the car with a helmet on. Maybe some people prefer it but I don't know that it's more realistic. GT6 physics look much improved as well, Forza seems like an arcade racer in comparison. I hope turn 10 learns for their next game.
PinkiePirate
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Gran Turismo is feely. Don't get me wrong, Forza is good but Gran Turismo just feels better. Audio is better too, even though that's one of the things people complain about most.
Even the earlier GT games, like Gran Turismo 3, offer a more authentic driving exerience than Forza 4. The bumps in the road, the sense of grip and the attention to detail are just some of what makes the driving experience in Gran Turismo unique.
You couldnt be more Wrong. GT3 or GT4 doesnt hold a candle to Forza 4 let alone Forza 1. and hheres why : here is a Quote in a IGN Article on GT4 vs. Forza 1. "Forza delivers incredible, and very distinct, physics and handling. These are slightly separate issues, but they do overlap. These cars all feature distinguished and wildly varying speeds, handling, cornering, and other driving aspects. From what I can tell so far, the most distinct aspects are found in the cornering. The cars feel less arcade-like than GT, and even with the assists on, the vehicles are phenomenally realistic. The physics model more precisely transfers weight during turns and requires a different learning curve than GT. More importantly, the cars take damage, which affects their performance drastically -- i.e., when damaged, they lose acceleration, veer to one side, or lose traction among other things. Also, we have yet to flip a car." http://m.ign.com/articles/2005/02/16/forza-vs-gt4 So that just proves how outdated GT3/GT4 is compared to Forza 4 let alone Forza 1. ;)
You couldnt be more Wrong. GT3 or GT4 doesnt hold a candle to Forza 4 let alone Forza 1. and hheres why : here is a Quote in a IGN Article on GT4 vs. Forza 1. "Forza delivers incredible, and very distinct, physics and handling. These are slightly separate issues, but they do overlap. These cars all feature distinguished and wildly varying speeds, handling, cornering, and other driving aspects. From what I can tell so far, the most distinct aspects are found in the cornering. The cars feel less arcade-like than GT, and even with the assists on, the vehicles are phenomenally realistic. The physics model more precisely transfers weight during turns and requires a different learning curve than GT. More importantly, the cars take damage, which affects their performance drastically -- i.e., when damaged, they lose acceleration, veer to one side, or lose traction among other things. Also, we have yet to flip a car." http://m.ign.com/articles/2005/02/16/forza-vs-gt4 So that just proves how outdated GT3/GT4 is compared to Forza 4 let alone Forza 1. ;)jessejay420
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Well, duh. Of course it has a more advenced physics model than the PS2 games. That wasn't my point. GT games have always felt more authentic.
Well, duh. Of course it has a more advenced physics model than the PS2 games. That wasn't my point. GT games have always felt more authentic.
PinkiePirate
[QUOTE="jessejay420"] You couldnt be more Wrong. GT3 or GT4 doesnt hold a candle to Forza 4 let alone Forza 1. and hheres why : here is a Quote in a IGN Article on GT4 vs. Forza 1. "Forza delivers incredible, and very distinct, physics and handling. These are slightly separate issues, but they do overlap. These cars all feature distinguished and wildly varying speeds, handling, cornering, and other driving aspects. From what I can tell so far, the most distinct aspects are found in the cornering. The cars feel less arcade-like than GT, and even with the assists on, the vehicles are phenomenally realistic. The physics model more precisely transfers weight during turns and requires a different learning curve than GT. More importantly, the cars take damage, which affects their performance drastically -- i.e., when damaged, they lose acceleration, veer to one side, or lose traction among other things. Also, we have yet to flip a car." http://m.ign.com/articles/2005/02/16/forza-vs-gt4 So that just proves how outdated GT3/GT4 is compared to Forza 4 let alone Forza 1. ;)PinkiePirate
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Well, duh. Of course it has a more advenced physics model than the PS2 games. That wasn't my point. GT games have always felt more authentic.
"the cars feel less arcade like than GT" Yeah,that sure sounds like Authentic to me :roll: Fact : GT3/GT4 dont hold a candle to Forza 4. i know thats probably hard for you to deal with but its true.
heres an interesting article from people that know about cars that compared both games.
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jsmoke03
heres whats wrong with the review you posted: from the comments section; " First, I'd like to know exactly what assists were used in Forza. Based on how they describe it, it sounds like they had ABS, SC, and TC all turned on. Also, last time I checked, when you smash your car into a wall at 150mph, its realistic that it breaks and doesn't function well if at all (Forza), not keeps going like nothing happened (GT5). C&D even says they did not use damage simulation. Well, how can you accurately assess how realistic these two games are if that's turned off? That's a major part of reality idiots. There's no way C&D tested Forza under its full realism (all assists off, all simulation, hard AI). The fact that they crown GT5 on realism while admitting to not testing Forza with its damage model completely smashes the credibility of this review." lol @ using 'Car & Driver' as a source for reviewing games. maybe next time you can use 'Guns & Ammo Magazine' as a review source for the next Battlefield Game.
We wont be making all the Standard cars from GT5 into Premium models, and we wont make all of the GT5s Standard cars fully Premiumized.
Up until now, we used to categorize them as Standard and Premium because there were functional differences between them: some of the Standard models might not have tuning parts, or couldnt be used in Photo Mode. Â That will all be cleared so every model can be used in Photo Mode, and every car can have parts fitted for it.
In terms of graphics quality, the bad quality Standard models weve updated so they look better.
Will all of the cars have interior views?
No.
(Editors note: This apparently does not apply to all of the cars which were listed as Standard in GT5. For example, two cars which were prominently featured in the GT6 trailer and its first official batch of screenshots, the Lamborghini Countach LP400 and Alpine A110 1600S, both appeared as Standard cars in GT5 but have apparently been converted to full Premium models with interiors in GT6.)"
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And people want PS3 cars on PS4? how about PS2 cars on PS4? lol.
HAZE-Unit
*sigh* that really puts a damper on things. Thats the one thing I wanted them to sort out. Seriously cut the carlist to 600, take out all the rehash skylines, evos, etc, and make every car premium! Add in a couple new tracks, and integrate rally, nascar, f1, karts a little better, and boom, an instant hit. But Kaz always has to do it his way
We wont be making all the Standard cars from GT5 into Premium models, and we wont make all of the GT5s Standard cars fully Premiumized.
Up until now, we used to categorize them as Standard and Premium because there were functional differences between them: some of the Standard models might not have tuning parts, or couldnt be used in Photo Mode. Â That will all be cleared so every model can be used in Photo Mode, and every car can have parts fitted for it.
In terms of graphics quality, the bad quality Standard models weve updated so they look better.
Will all of the cars have interior views?
No.
(Editors note: This apparently does not apply to all of the cars which were listed as Standard in GT5. For example, two cars which were prominently featured in the GT6 trailer and its first official batch of screenshots, the Lamborghini Countach LP400 and Alpine A110 1600S, both appeared as Standard cars in GT5 but have apparently been converted to full Premium models with interiors in GT6.)"
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And people want PS3 cars on PS4? how about PS2 cars on PS4? lol.
pl4yer_f0und
*sigh* that really puts a damper on things. Thats the one thing I wanted them to sort out. Seriously cut the carlist to 600, take out all the rehash skylines, evos, etc, and make every car premium! Add in a couple new tracks, and integrate rally, nascar, f1, karts a little better, and boom, an instant hit. But Kaz always has to do it his way
I honestly dont mind having Premium & standard cars... I play racing games for the thrill of speed not to see which has the most accurate dashboard representation of else looks visually better..
When we talk graphics you see a sudden flux of posts stating gameplay > visuals, but in this case having standard cars in GT5/ GT6 is bad... As long as PD keeps fine tuning the ameplay aspect thats more than fine with me.. (Luckily they did huge improvements with GT5 & hopefully we improve further with GT6)
We wont be making all the Standard cars from GT5 into Premium models, and we wont make all of the GT5s Standard cars fully Premiumized.
Up until now, we used to categorize them as Standard and Premium because there were functional differences between them: some of the Standard models might not have tuning parts, or couldnt be used in Photo Mode. Â That will all be cleared so every model can be used in Photo Mode, and every car can have parts fitted for it.
In terms of graphics quality, the bad quality Standard models weve updated so they look better.
Will all of the cars have interior views?
No.
(Editors note: This apparently does not apply to all of the cars which were listed as Standard in GT5. For example, two cars which were prominently featured in the GT6 trailer and its first official batch of screenshots, the Lamborghini Countach LP400 and Alpine A110 1600S, both appeared as Standard cars in GT5 but have apparently been converted to full Premium models with interiors in GT6.)"
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And people want PS3 cars on PS4? how about PS2 cars on PS4? lol.
Malta_1980
*sigh* that really puts a damper on things. Thats the one thing I wanted them to sort out. Seriously cut the carlist to 600, take out all the rehash skylines, evos, etc, and make every car premium! Add in a couple new tracks, and integrate rally, nascar, f1, karts a little better, and boom, an instant hit. But Kaz always has to do it his way
I honestly dont mind having Premium & standard cars... I play racing games for the thrill of speed not to see which has the most accurate dashboard representation of else looks visually better..
When we talk graphics you see a sudden flux of posts stating gameplay > visuals, but in this case having standard cars in GT5/ GT6 is bad... As long as PD keeps fine tuning the ameplay aspect thats more than fine with me.. (Luckily they did huge improvements with GT5 & hopefully we improve further with GT6)
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While I do agree that Gameplay >>> Graphics, and that GT6 should have gameplay sorted in spades... It is nice as well to have aesthetic consistency throughout the game. It has got to the stage where there are many Premium cars anyway, so why not cut the standard cars entirely at this point?
I honestly dont mind having Premium & standard cars... I play racing games for the thrill of speed not to see which has the most accurate dashboard representation of else looks visually better..
When we talk graphics you see a sudden flux of posts stating gameplay > visuals, but in this case having standard cars in GT5/ GT6 is bad... As long as PD keeps fine tuning the ameplay aspect thats more than fine with me.. (Luckily they did huge improvements with GT5 & hopefully we improve further with GT6)
_Matt_
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While I do agree that Gameplay >>> Graphics, and that GT6 should have gameplay sorted in spades... It is nice as well to have aesthetic consistency throughout the game. It has got to the stage where there are many Premium cars anyway, so why not cut the standard cars entirely at this point?
It wouldnt be fair to cut the standard cars.. many buy racing games cause they love that genre and cannot afford to buy most of them.. so taking out 200 standard cars would put off many gamers...Â
Why not avoid buying/racing with standard cars? not fair taking them out cause even though not pleasing to the eye, many car enthusiast would still enjoy racing with standard models..
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