Gran Turismo Sport is the best looking racing game. Period.

While GT falls short in collision physics and engine sounds (although in this iteration, it has improved dramatically), the series has been second to none on achieving photo-realism.

I have a PC with a GTX 1060 that can max out both Forza Horizon 3 and Forza 6 Apex and they can't even hold a candle to GT Sports magnificent lighting, texture work and car models.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7WfGWDkBxE

Have you seen the gifs you posted? I'm 100% sure that there are much more beautiful FH3 images.

Although now I'm thinking you are trolling :)

The direct feed of Forza Horizon 3 already looks hilariously bad compared to two year old Drive Club:

Cows just can't be taken seriously. lolol

I'm supah serial. :P

@FastRobby: Those gifs look like an actual real race on TV, Forza 3 looks like a really good video game.

Gran Turismo and Drive Club don't destroy Forza just because of the massive power advantage of the PS4 over the Xbox One. That certainly is a big part of the reason. But even if you take Turn 10's pathetically amateurish lighting model/rendering engine and ran it on the highest end graphics hardware it would still look like crap comparison to what is currently running on the PS4.

Just a shame Drive Club wasn't that fun to play

LOL.

Drive Club is by far the most fun arcade racer this gen.

@Rikusaki said:

While GT falls short in collision physics and engine sounds (although in this iteration, it has improved dramatically), the series has been second to none on achieving photo-realism.

I have a PC with a GTX 1060 that can max out both Forza Horizon 3 and Forza 6 Apex and they can't even hold a candle to GT Sports magnificent lighting, texture work and car models.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7WfGWDkBxE

We can compare GT leak videos.

FH6 xbox and PC

False Turn 10 graphics look way better. Just look at the first video of GT i posted the graphics. The environment looks dull and faded. It looks like an upgraded PS3 game. Mind you the second video does look better.

But Forza 6 and older Forza looks superior.

Go away gpuking. Nobody agrees with you.

The horizon series is way more fun that Drive Club. I will give you it is pretty, but it feels really stale and boring.

@boycie: Sucks that Driveclub was only 30fps too, which nullifies the graphics. Forza games on PC all run at 60fps+ and look pretty sexy.

@gfxpipeline: Lol FH3 looks like Mario Kart next to the others.

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Gran Turismo is also the best sim overall. Only with GT you can actually get the skills to become a professional racer with GT Academy.

My racer (ahem: console) is better than your racer (ahem: console) :p

That is what is so pathetic about Turn 10.

They aren't some poor developer who is gimped by the junk Xbox hardware. They just simply suck at being able to write a modern lighting model.

Turn 10's lack of talent hasn't changed since last gen where the GT on the PS3 was running at 1080p 60fps but Forza could only run at 720p. Despite the massive resolution increase on the PS3, GT had a far more advanced lighting model.

@Rikusaki: holy cow, Rikusaki is back?!

How have you been sir?

What's even more pathetic is the fact Gran Turismo team has years of experience on Turn 10 yet can't make a good racer to save their lives. Forza has been shitting on GT for over a decade in terms of quality so you calling Turn 10 pathetic is kinda ironic.

Also even more pathetic you're a dupe.

Are those gifs gameplay?

They look like a race on tv or something. That's what the heck the game looks like while playing?

I thought people were saying this GT looked terrible?

@Juub1990:

Serious question.

What about Forza makes it a better racing sim?

I see this a lot but no one ever actually says why it's better.

The only thing I ever see mentioned is engine sound and collision which doesn't make sense for the gameplay over graphics crowd to me.

They were probably looking at pre-alfa footage.

Almost everything is better in Forza. Phsyics engine is better. The way it handles damage is better. Car interaction/collision is better. AI is better.

Only thing GT has over Forza is car variety.

Nothing.

Despite all the money Microsoft has thrown at Forza for reviews and press coverage the games have mediocre sales.

Gotta love Sony shills.

Bring up reviews when Sony games get praised.

Dismiss them and call conspiracy when other games get praised.

Oh the hypocrisy.

@sts106mat: It's gpuking lol. He never made sense when talking about games cause he doesn't play them. He just looks at animated gifs and tries to sound educated about graphics.

Holy crap, GT Sport looks like complete ass.

That's a bit harsh...

I'd say it looks like PS Bore Poo... Half ass. lolol :P

@dakur:

It looks real.

@Juub1990:

Ok, here is another stupid question.

What does this actually mean?

"Almost everything is better in Forza. Phsyics engine is better. The way it handles damage is better. Car interaction/collision is better. AI is better."

The way it handles damage? Do you mean it shows graphically better damage?

Car collision? I'm genuinely curious how one determines Forza handles high speed racing collision better than GT handles it. How is that discovered? I'm asking as someone who has driven longer than some people on here might have been alive but I don't think I could tell the difference of that in a video game. I've been in wrecks but I don't race cars and crash them at super high speeds. Just asking.

What does the AI do differently?

@sts106mat:

This is what I was asking. Surely that's not actual gameplay?

PS4 is more powerful, of course it will look better. That's just fact, pointless thread.

@loe12k: why did you post Forza 6 Apex as Xbox/PC? That's a PC-only game

If it were wide open world like Forza Horizon 3 it would look like this...

lol :P

@sts106mat:

That's what I was thinking.

@sts106mat:

So the AI takes cues from actual peoples driving habits ? I could see how that might be more appealing and realistic.

Yeah, I'm not a huge racing person but I'd prefer something more along the Horizon lines instead of simulation.

I still don't understand how people know things like the high speed collisions are more realistic. How would anyone really know that?

And OnLive will take over gaming.

I miss Rikusaki threads.

@sts106mat:

Your details make more sense than most of what I read.

It's just hard to take someone serious on things like Forza handles crashes better. how on earth would anyone know what regular crashes at that speed feel like for simulation purposes?

Why does everything thats not the car or road look so god awful? thats forza 5 crowd levels of bad

@lrdfancypants: Yes. Cars in Gran Turismo sustain very little damage. I remember the excuse was the lead director said they took so long to craft beautiful cars and damaging them would be tasteless or something like that. Over time your car will eventually look like a wreck good for the scrapyard in Forza.

It also handles collisions better. A 200Mph collision in Forza will result in you losing control of the vehicle and smashing into the borders. In GT they are much more forgiving which is quite ironic because they are generally more realistic when it comes to car handling. The feedback and the force of crashes just don't have the impact factor in GT. They never did.

As for the AI the AI still cheats in GT. They still had that bullshit rubber-band AI as of GT6. The AI in Forza plays by the same rules as the player and doesn't do a piss poor job at beating you. They calculate lanes and angles and overtake you fair and square. In GT for some odd reason they always catch up to you and the farther away from you they are, the better they are at negotiating turns and the faster they are.

There's a reason Forza is seen as the better racing game. GT hasn't evolved as a racer and prides itself as a SIM. Forza is a bit more arcady but as a racing SIM they are both widely outclassed by other games on PC. GT is like a SIM that doesn't want to be a SIM mainly because of some questionable design decisions.