GStop: AC: Syndicate, Battlefront and Halo 5 flopped.

GameStop today reported that new software sales were down by 9.3 percent, a downturn that was attributed to a tough comparison to last year when Destiny and Super Smash Bros. came to market.

High-profile new releases like Halo 5: Guardians and Assassin's Creed Syndicate underperformed during the quarter ended October 31, GameStop CEO Paul Raines told investors and analysts. Star Wars Battlefront launched on November 17, outside of that reporting period, but sales of this game, too, came in below what the company had modeled, GameStop president Tony Bartel added.

Bartel went on to say there is no reason to believe Halo 5's digital sales were higher than what they were modeling, based on conversations with Microsoft.

From Gamespot.

TLHBO!

wut?

YoY comparison of total game sales isn't an indicator of whether a game flopped

also, I'm of the feeling digital sales on XBO are going to not be predictably modeled by pre-orders do to XBL Rewards program which refuses to rebate people who buy digitally, by gaining up to a $6 rebate on each game by making gamers wait until release to buy instead of pre-ordering which does nothing for the XBL Rewards anymore, people will slowly stop to digitally pre-order, meaning digitally sales will start to become more unpredictable on that platform

also, we have a great set of 4th quarter releases, granted they're going to create an intense competitive atmosphere with some underperforming, but we have great options nonetheless; why be so cynical about that

They were bellow expectations. Hence they flopped (in sales).

aren't those just the expectations of Gamestop? So how do you know they flopped for the publisher?

2 multiplat games and one exclusive doing worse than expected equals the Lems being owned?What? I think halo 5 will do fine eventually and sell around 5-6.5 million.Halo 6 will sell better than 5.

I'm not surprised that Gamestop said something like this.

With any luck it has more to do with people bailing on gamestop because gamestop is shit, and less to do with games having weaker sales.

GStop is clearly stated in the title and OT. Regardless, like it or not, GameStop is still a very important retailer of video games.

If those games failed can't wait to see their thoughts on Tomb Raider. Every one knows Halo flopped but lemmings. Greatest flops in Xbox history.

Halo 5 is their biggest exclusive.

The term flop here is used in regards to hype vs score. Not sales.

Tomb raider will be lucky to sell 50% of what halo 5 sold in the US in November. I wonder what there expectations for that game were to.It probably was not to high,

AC probably balances yearly sales between those who can't do another one (burnt out) with new adopters of the franchise who's mom's finally allow them to buy the game...

Halo doesn't have the install base to sell 10mill

... And battlefront kind of shocks me it isn't selling better... Though I bet that changes the closer we get to xmas.

... All things considered, halo and creed are non buys for me... Battlefront I'll get because my kids and I are gonna have a blast and also, I don't care enough about competitive MP to care what it's missing or doesn't do totally right. It's star wars backdrop and casual approach are what I want.

@super600: I would guess as high as the last one. I have no doubt though that Tomb Raider Rise did solid numbers for being only on one console. I could be wrong, but i think plenty are buying it, its very appealing.

burn out enough to buy the collector's edition amirite? Did you play Ass Creed while having your Ezio doll near by bro?

I think you are wrong. Any time someone posts some insider info about the status of TR sales in U.S. they say it not doing too hot, bundles or the individual game. I'm thinking 400k is the absolute most it will do for November NPD. 250k is more reasonable. Through two weeks in the UK it has sold less than 70k...

Here the thing. It is not very appealing to Xbox gamers and never has been. It has been a PC and PlayStation oriented game since forever. Making it a timed exclusive was never going to change that. The poor choice of release date has only compounded the damage.

@jg4xchamp: champ after midnight launch of Halo 5

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--BpkKGaG9--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/18mjcri3jze18jpg.jpg

Get some...

Also, I totally have an ezio action figure... But when I say a franchise is dead.... Its dead.

who cares how much this billion dollar company didnt make......im loving halo 5,tomb raider,forza, KI,sunset overdrive,blops3, will pick up battlefront on blackfriday

X360 user base is still alive, though. In UK ROTR sold like shit. Barely 70k on both platforms in 2 weeks.

What a sad thread this is

How do you know its still alive? I dont think we really have a clue how many are still buying for Xbox 360 in the UK, a place dominated by Sony sales. And im pretty sure those numbers were from 2 days, not 2 weeks.

The 161k in the UK across all platforms was the 2 weeks one.

How much of that is due to digital sales increasing?

Cows have been damage controlling the last few weeks on account of Halo 5 selling really well, the XBO outselling PS4 in October NPD, Rise of the Tomb Raider doing well critically and they have to wait a year so they nitpick UK sales (a region which never releases hard figures for sales data), and brag about Battlefront on PS4 having 50% more players even though they have like twice the userbase. Cows are grasping at straws because besides Bloodborne the only PS4 games exclusives worth playing are still TBA 2016.

The XBO is doing well, not making up any deficit in Sony's lead mind you, but they're delivering a satisfying experience for those that backed it and that's too much for cows to take, even Sony leadership is breaking down and acting like 10 year old fanboys over it. We shouldn't expect anything better from the people here.

2 weeks or 10 days. A new chart came out this morning. Less than 70k in two week is a flop.

@Wasdie: Not enough according to Gamestop. Digital is not saving these flops. It adds 15 to 20 percent.

Sounds like you are the one having a meltdown because this greatest lineup ever flopped. It's all downhill for Xbox after this Fall. PS4 is headed into beast mode with SFV and Uncharted 4 to kick off 2016.

Well I hope they do better than that

How much bigger than can you get as an exclusive(console exclusive for SFV)? Gran Turismo Sport and Horizon Zero Dawn could be hits on the back end of 2016. I'm interested in games like Persona 5, Nier Automata, Gravity Rush 2, Ratchet & Clank and The Last Guardian too but I don't think those games have the same type of mainstream appeal.

LOL! ROTR came out for X360, dude. So, it counts! And yes, game sold barely 70k for both platforms in 2 weeks! First week sold in 42k on both platforms

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=186464084&postcount=518

or read the whole page :

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=186466856&highlight=#post186466856

So in other words, keep waiting, or "just you wait", that's been Sony's mantra since last gen.

Sure, PS4 will definitely be worth picking up in 2016, I'm betting on it, which is why I didn't get one yet but probably will sometime when Uncharted 4 or Persona 5 release. I got a Wii U when XBO/PS4 launched because it had games I wanted that I just can't play on either, I got an XBO next because despite Sony being stronger system poised for long run, XBO actually had games I wanted and games that definitely were worth not waiting to play, and games I just can't play on a PS4, and the PS4 on the other hand there's nothing to be gained getting a 2013 system whose payoff will come sometime in 2016.

I didn't say bigger. I said I hope they'll do better than just those two, as by themselves they're not very enticing to buy a console

@imt558:

"The game has only managed to sell just under 63,000 SKUs on its first day out."

Read more at http://blogjob.com/oneangrygamer/2015/11/rise-of-the-tomb-raider-sells-less-than-63000-in-uk/#38dvMupT1UIeOgga.99

I cant find nothing to back up your claim mate, sorry.

@StrongBlackVine: So one game from sony uc4. and everything is good?....sfv also a pc game......gran trurismo (really) good luck waitting on that.....zero dawn looks cool as hell better them uc4

OK well they have stacked 2016 lineup, The headliners are SFV, Uncharted 4, Horizon Zero Dawn and Gran Turismo Sport. Altogether I count at least 8 retail exclusives for 2016, 9 when you add SFV. Add sure I'm probably missing a few Japanese games. That is by far more than either PlayStation or Xbox has done so far this generation.

but not even close to the only one. digital, best buy, target, walmart, amazon etc. plus that is on US. 400 million on launch day is great. destiny was 500 million on launch day and was on 4 platforms compared to 1 for halo 5.

Announced PlayStation Retail exclusive 2016

Uncharted 4

Ratchet & Clank

Persona 5

Nier Automata

Gravity Rush 2

The Last Guardian

Gran Turismo Sport

Horizon Zero Dawn

Street Fighter V(console exclusive)

Announced Xbox Retail Exclusive 2016

Quantum Break

Recore(haven't seen much on this and supposedly Spring)

Scalebound

Gears Of War 4

And let's not forget the fact that Rise of the Tomb Raider release on the same day with Fallout 4 and that too has to take into consideration, everyone wanted to play Fallout 4 and Rise of the Tomb Raider was doom from the start. MS were foolish to release it on the same Fallout 4 release. Oh well, there lost.

The Halo and Assassin's Creed brands have been damaged pretty badly, so that's not too surprising. Uncharted 4 has a good chance of selling better than both of these. Battlefront looks like it's moving an insane amount of PS4s with the bundles. Looks like Sony lost October by a little in order to win November.

As for Tomb Raider, RIP Lara :( Sony may need to step in to save the sequel to Rise of the Tomb Raider.

"If you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you could ever imagine." -PS4

@StrongBlackVine: man please stop this bs the last guardain (let that crap die),gravity rush2(lol) ok.....you talk about recore but what about gt (come on son)......the rest of the games on both sides are all about taste....sfv no different the tomb raider (stop) im going to be real with you if i didnt have a gaming rig i would be pissed this gen....both company are lacking

ROTR was released 3 days after Fallout 4 in UK.

Hahaha! LOL! Their source is GAF. Just read the damn article, mate, Then read links i gave you in post before. 42k copies first week, 27k copies in 2nd week. If numbers aren't official, member should be banned on GAF, so, numbers are legit and ROTR flopped because stupid MS and SE exclusivity deal.

Anyone who wasn't a tinfoil hat lemming in denial knew Halo 5 bombed after the NPD numbers were leaked. And Battlefront was no doubt hurt by many people not liking the beta.

Black Ops 3 and Fallout 4 sold like hotcakes because they were the best games released this holiday.

@imt558: No mate, that was for the old Tomb Raider.

"According to NeoGaf the original reboot of Tomb Raider managed 183,000 SKUs on its first day out when it first launched in the U.K., back in 2013."

The source for the 63K in one day was from a Twitter account. Again, where is the source to back up your 42k copies and 27 k copies? Are you for real trying to use two random dudes on a forum post as a source?

I think it's because of Target Buy 2 get one free deal. Knowing it's coming in November makes it pretty easy to bypass gamestop in October and wait for the Target Deal.

I made out like a bandit on the greatest game lineup in gaming history on The One with the Target deal.

GAMESTOP - A HARDWARE AND PHYSICAL SOFTWARE SHOP.

What else would GAMESTOP have to say about digital sales? THEY HATE THEM.

Are you so dumb to see ( read ) some things or what?

First : source is GAF ( member BrunoMB ), second - he always make the PAL threads, third - his numbers are official, forth - he made a correction for ROTR numbers later : +56k ( upper numbers ) for X360 and Xbone : http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=185640029&postcount=211 , fifth : the latest numbers for ROTR : http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1144508&page=3

or this one ( i gave you this link in post before ) : http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=186464084&postcount=518

Get it now? Good! Your problem if you can't stand a hard cold facts.

I still dont get it, your still posting forum post and not official data. Where is the forum posters source? And even so, is that not the 1 day sales count? Its all over the internet that the sells were in one day, not a week.

cows getting rekt

"Industry sources support our belief that Halo 5 digital sales were much closer to half of units than the 20-25% GameStop is suggesting."

This perfectly coincides with most of the polls done on Halo Waypoint asking people what medium they were going to get the game on. Halo 5 sold 4-5 million units its first week just like I said.

Yeah cows look bad today....first with bragging about an expansion and now this. Just hang it up til next year fellas.