GT5 AI debunk vid.

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#151 todd2r
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u guys just cant admit that JUST MAYBE Forza is a better game

Kashiwaba

^this. can we please stop with the 500 GT5 topics a day please? the game flopped. lets all move on.

The problem is lems and hardcore cows are making these threads lol GT5 fans are still posting about their personal experience in the official thread.

i know. it was fun for like 2 days but now its just annoying.

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#152 Kashiwaba
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[QUOTE="gaming25"] So the MAIN thing that they do isnt good enough? PD is competent in all of the aspects, but just like any other game it has a couple of flaws. The A Spec is great, the online is pretty good, the cars are really good. And the special events are very good as well. But the only problem I see is probably not enough A Spec events, other than that, I dont see that much wrong with the game.Zero_epyon

a couple of flaws... :lol: what year is this? go on.. look it up i'll wait.....

now with that information in hand why do i have to type in a 20 digit code to join my friends game? (which never worked anyway for the enire week i had the game)

this game is primitive.

Where are people getting this 20 digit code thing from? I've played 3 races with three separate friends and had one join my by joining my lounge. No where is there a code entry.

Most of the people who are bashing the game didn't even bother playing it, they are getting their facts from other haters.

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#153 gaming25
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[QUOTE="todd2r"]

[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

[QUOTE="todd2r"]

^this. can we please stop with the 500 GT5 topics a day please? the game flopped. lets all move on.

The problem is lems and hardcore cows are making these threads lol GT5 fans are still posting about their personal experience in the official thread.

i know. it was fun for like 2 days but now its just annoying.

I made this thread because it was a very informative vid. And if you look at the threads then you will see that nearly all of the new ones are negative. This is the only new thread that I have seen is positive (other than the sales thread if you count that).
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#154 tempest91
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[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]a couple of flaws... :lol: what year is this? go on.. look it up i'll wait.....

now with that information in hand why do i have to type in a 20 digit code to join my friends game? (which never worked anyway for the enire week i had the game)

this game is primitive.

Kashiwaba

Where are people getting this 20 digit code thing from? I've played 3 races with three separate friends and had one join my by joining my lounge. No where is there a code entry.

Most of the people who are bashing the game didn't even bother playing it, they are getting their facts from other haters.

Umm, this is SW, isn't it?

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#155 pimpog
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[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]a couple of flaws... :lol: what year is this? go on.. look it up i'll wait.....

now with that information in hand why do i have to type in a 20 digit code to join my friends game? (which never worked anyway for the enire week i had the game)

this game is primitive.

Kashiwaba

Where are people getting this 20 digit code thing from? I've played 3 races with three separate friends and had one join my by joining my lounge. No where is there a code entry.

Most of the people who are bashing the game didn't even bother playing it, they are getting their facts from other haters.

It still sucks finding people online compared to forza 3 or even 2 . You guys can try to gloss over the flaws but if you never played forza 3 you have no idead how online racing should work. I hope that the next patch will fix some of the problem with the game. This game needs a friends list plain and simple.

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#156 Kashiwaba
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[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"] Where are people getting this 20 digit code thing from? I've played 3 races with three separate friends and had one join my by joining my lounge. No where is there a code entry.pimpog

Most of the people who are bashing the game didn't even bother playing it, they are getting their facts from other haters.

It still sucks finding people online compared to forza 3 or even 2 . You guys can try to gloss over the flaws but if you never played forza 3 you have no idead how online racing should work. I hope that the next patch will fix some of the problem with the game. This game needs a friends list plain and simple.

I played Forza 3 but I didn't try its online because my 360 is not connected to the internet nor i have a gold LIVE so I really can't say anything about its online but for me GT5 online was as good as any other game online on PS3 I can join my friends easily and join other people rooms.

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#157 Zero_epyon
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[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"] Where are people getting this 20 digit code thing from? I've played 3 races with three separate friends and had one join my by joining my lounge. No where is there a code entry.pimpog

Most of the people who are bashing the game didn't even bother playing it, they are getting their facts from other haters.

It still sucks finding people online compared to forza 3 or even 2 . You guys can try to gloss over the flaws but if you never played forza 3 you have no idead how online racing should work. I hope that the next patch will fix some of the problem with the game. This game needs a friends list plain and simple.

It may have flaws but that was not the point here. Why try to convince someone that a game has a flaw that doesn't exist? Am I wrong here? Can someone show me where they're getting the 20 digit code entry to join a game?
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#158 ermacness
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u guys just cant admit that JUST MAYBE Forza is a better game

sinpkr

totally opinionated.

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#159 ermacness
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GT5 flopped. Can we move on?:roll:

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#160 Riverwolf007
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[QUOTE="pimpog"]

[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

Most of the people who are bashing the game didn't even bother playing it, they are getting their facts from other haters.

Zero_epyon

It still sucks finding people online compared to forza 3 or even 2 . You guys can try to gloss over the flaws but if you never played forza 3 you have no idead how online racing should work. I hope that the next patch will fix some of the problem with the game. This game needs a friends list plain and simple.

It may have flaws but that was not the point here. Why try to convince someone that a game has a flaw that doesn't exist? Am I wrong here? Can someone show me where they're getting the 20 digit code entry to join a game?

what happened to me was i was trying to join a friend in somebody elses lobby that was not on my friend list and the only way i could get in was to enter the lobby number that my friend sent me.

i won't say that it was not user error or anything i had not had the game long when it happened.

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#161 doom4dukenukem
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gt5=better graphics phyiscs suck compared to forza3 though.
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#162 pimpog
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[QUOTE="pimpog"]

[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

Most of the people who are bashing the game didn't even bother playing it, they are getting their facts from other haters.

Zero_epyon

It still sucks finding people online compared to forza 3 or even 2 . You guys can try to gloss over the flaws but if you never played forza 3 you have no idead how online racing should work. I hope that the next patch will fix some of the problem with the game. This game needs a friends list plain and simple.

It may have flaws but that was not the point here. Why try to convince someone that a game has a flaw that doesn't exist? Am I wrong here? Can someone show me where they're getting the 20 digit code entry to join a game?

Before the 1st patch the online was broken you could not find anybody. The rooms in the open lounge were radomly set and had 20 digit codes that you could enter to jump into them in a gimped invite mode to get into your friends room.

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#163 X360PS3AMD05
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LOgin??
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#164 lucky_star
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u guys just cant admit that JUST MAYBE Forza is a better game

sinpkr
too bad its an arcade racer.
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#165 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="sinpkr"]

u guys just cant admit that JUST MAYBE Forza is a better game

lucky_star

too bad its an arcade racer.

First of all, they're both simcade racers.

Second of all, even if it was "arcade", who cares?

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#166 lucky_star
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[QUOTE="lucky_star"][QUOTE="sinpkr"]

u guys just cant admit that JUST MAYBE Forza is a better game

GreySeal9

too bad its an arcade racer.

First of all, they're both simcade racers.

Second of all, even if it was "arcade", who cares?

Me. Burnout is much more fun than forza ever was.
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#167 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="lucky_star"] too bad its an arcade racer.lucky_star

First of all, they're both simcade racers.

Second of all, even if it was "arcade", who cares?

Me. Burnout is much more fun than forza ever was.

Yeah, but you're predisposed to hate on Forza no matter what the subgenre, so, what person that actually has a measure of objectivity cares?

Also, the fact is, both Forza and GT are simcade racers.

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#168 lucky_star
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[QUOTE="lucky_star"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

First of all, they're both simcade racers.

Second of all, even if it was "arcade", who cares?

GreySeal9

Me. Burnout is much more fun than forza ever was.

Yeah, but you're predisposed to hate on Forza no matter what the subgenre, so, what person that actually has a measure of objectivity cares?

Also, the fact is, both Forza and GT are simcade racers.

if u say so. GT5 still feels and handles way more realisticly than forza and thats what matters to me. IMHO pgr3 has a more realistic gameplay than forza :(
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#169 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="lucky_star"] Me. Burnout is much more fun than forza ever was.lucky_star

Yeah, but you're predisposed to hate on Forza no matter what the subgenre, so, what person that actually has a measure of objectivity cares?

Also, the fact is, both Forza and GT are simcade racers.

if u say so. GT5 still feels and handles way more realisticly than forza and thats what matters to me. IMHO pgr3 has a more realistic gameplay than forza :(

Again, what you think is not really all that relevant as you're not capable of objectivity.

Even if GT5 handles more realistically, there are things it does less realistically than Forza. Neither of them go as far as PC simulators in being realistic racing experiences.

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#171 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="lucky_star"] if u say so. GT5 still feels and handles way more realisticly than forza and thats what matters to me. IMHO pgr3 has a more realistic gameplay than forza :(lucky_star

Again, what you think is not really all that relevant as you're not capable of objectivity.

Even if GT5 handles more realistically, there are things it does less realistically than Forza. Neither of them go as far as PC simulators in being realistic racing experiences.

Im as capable of objectivity as you are sir. stop trolling.

Post history suggests otherwise, especially on this subject, but like I said, GT is more realistic in some areas, Forza is more realistic in others. They both sacrifice a lot of realism if you compare them to PC simulators.

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#172 windsquid9000
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While the original video may have been unfair, it's not much of an achievement. Even GT PSP's brain dead A.I. can manage that much.

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#173 LOXO7
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Wth? Conspiracy theories? This thread is hilarious. Keep it up!
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#174 GulliversTravel
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So after years of 'OMG GT IS SO MUCH BETTER IT CANT EVEN BE COMPARED TO FM!' to 'OMG TEH AI IS ALMOST AS GOOD!':?
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#175 iMojo786_PSN
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the link directs me to a login page?

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#176 racing1750
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[QUOTE="sinpkr"]

u guys just cant admit that JUST MAYBE Forza is a better game

lucky_star
too bad its an arcade racer.

No it isn't.
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#177 Kashiwaba
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[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="pimpog"]

It still sucks finding people online compared to forza 3 or even 2 . You guys can try to gloss over the flaws but if you never played forza 3 you have no idead how online racing should work. I hope that the next patch will fix some of the problem with the game. This game needs a friends list plain and simple.

Riverwolf007

It may have flaws but that was not the point here. Why try to convince someone that a game has a flaw that doesn't exist? Am I wrong here? Can someone show me where they're getting the 20 digit code entry to join a game?

what happened to me was i was trying to join a friend in somebody elses lobby that was not on my friend list and the only way i could get in was to enter the lobby number that my friend sent me.

i won't say that it was not user error or anything i had not had the game long when it happened.

As I said just go to your friend name near the coffee cup icon (for your friend lounge) you will find a green dot click on it and you will see where your friend is and who he is playing with also you can join him if you want.

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#178 Shewgenja
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Again, what is the motivation for the media treating GT5 differently than other games? Why is there this conspiracy against GT5?

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I'll go ahead and answer the question. Half a billion dollars in marketing money for a peripheral alone being up for grabs.
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#179 waltefmoney
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Again, what is the motivation for the media treating GT5 differently than other games? Why is there this conspiracy against GT5?

Shewgenja

I'll go ahead and answer the question. Half a billion dollars in marketing money for a peripheral alone being up for grabs.

So the media is trying to impress Microsoft by bashing GT5 and anything Sony related so that they get a slice of the pie?

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#180 tormentos
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[QUOTE="Shewgenja"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Again, what is the motivation for the media treating GT5 differently than other games? Why is there this conspiracy against GT5?

waltefmoney

I'll go ahead and answer the question. Half a billion dollars in marketing money for a peripheral alone being up for grabs.

So the media is trying to impress Microsoft by bashing GT5 and anything Sony related so that they get a slice of the pie?

Who can say they were not already pay? Any one who thinks reviews and the sites that do them are not about money,probably forgot a site which kicked a reviewer because he say a game from that company was crap,and the company threaten the site with pulling the adds of the site. I know everyone here knows who he was,people should wake up this industry is all about the money,and ms has tons to burn,either way ms has been found guilty all over the world for worst things than paying sites for either good or bad reviews,and charge countless millions for it.
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#181 Episode_Eve
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I haven't watched the original video, but this one is pretty interesting. Seems to show that the conditions weren't equal. Also, that GT5's AI isn't as bad as it was made out to be, in the original video.

Well, GT5's AI isn't perfect, but no game's is. I find it rather smart at times, and haven't run into weird behaviors so far. For me, it's passable. I can't compare it to Forza's first-hand, because I haven't played the retail version, and don't plan on it. So, that's that.