GTA4 delayed till 2008.

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I play Doom 3 for a little while and THIS HAPPENS!? :shock:

Aside from Bioshock, there are now no upcoming games I want for my 360 that are coming out this year. Chances are if I upgrade my RAM, I'll end up getting it on PC.

wmc540

Mass Effect, Call of Duty 4, Halo 3, Blue Dragon, PGR 4, Madden 08, etc don't interest you?

Forgot about Call of Duty 4, but chances are I'll also get that on my PC.

Halo 3

Mass Effect

Bioshock

PGR4

The 360 has this autumn/holidays locked down for sure. I bet they delay PGR4 a bit instead of releasing it in September now. It would be great for a late October or early November-release - the PGR-series has always been a 'holiday-game' for me :)

The reasons for the GTA-delay might just as well be that Rockstar has concluded that there are too few potential buyers (360+PS3-owners in total) out there right now for such a hug and expensive production - they want to add a few million extra potential customers (which will happen during the holidays) before they ship their game. Don't forget that the roadmap/release for GTA IV was made way before the PS3-delays started.

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Korrigan777

both will sell a lot but the hype on killzone (regardless ofif you like it or not) is monstrous. All this from an alpha build of a game.

Gears was a new IP that sold like crazy. i'm expecting a similar reaction, maybe not as big but similar.

For many gamers out there that'll pick up a ps3 like myself, killzone 2 will be the first experience of thatfranchise. Sony will market the game to death.

LOL to the guy that thinks he'll see FF 13 stateside before 2009.

This is beyond disappointing.

I want to know why they're delaying it. I seriously hope they're not toning down the violence after the backlash over Manhunt 2. I wanted GTAIV in October. :(

This hurts Sony a hell of a lot more than Microsoft, and might actually even help MS. The 360 still has a slew of big games coming out by the end of the year, and the PS3 just lost one of their very few major ones. Now there's even more of a reason for people to wait until 2008 to buy a PS3 (as well as for the *real* price drop), because people would have bought it in '07 for GTA 4. That game was the PS3's system seller for this year. Now they have no system sellers until 2008, when the likes of GTA 4, FF13, MGS4 and Little Big Planet come along. But that's a ways away.

This hurts Sony pretty badly, especially since on the flip side, the 360 has games like Bioshock, Mass Effect and the juggernaut Halo 3 coming out this year, along with some of the PS3's big multiplats like CoD4 and Assassin's Creed. All of them out this year. If 360 sales rise sharply while PS3 sales fall sharply this fall, GTA4's delay will be the main reason.

There are only these 2 possibilities as to why the game got delayed:

1) both versions are getting their own problems, that's why both were delayed.

2)only the 360 version is not near completion, since MS got a contract with R* obligating them to not release the game previously in another console.

there is not a possibility of only the PS3 version presenting problems: they would just release the 360's version first. Sony has no contract with R* prohibiting them from releasing the game in another console first... but MS has.

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club-sandwich

both will sell a lot but the hype on killzone (regardless ofif you like it or not) is monstrous. All this from an alpha build of a game.

Gears was a new IP that sold like crazy. i'm expecting a similar reaction, maybe not as big but similar.

For many gamers out there that'll pick up a ps3 like myself, killzone 2 will be the first experience of thatfranchise. Sony will market the game to death.

first please learn how to quote properly. That was just a mess.

i wasn't arguing whether it'd be a halo-killer in terms of gameplay story etc. i was focusing on hype. Sony know how to hype the hell out of a game.

Based on hype alone this game will sell.Resistance was a new IP that soldaconsiderable amountand it didnt have no where near as much hype as killzone. Trailers and marketing can be very persuasive. at e3 07 it's seemed like sony were intent on wowing audiences with visuals. Assuming this game will flop gameplay wise just seems very sad and bitter.Some of you act like the guerilla developers are mentally hadicapped or something, like they haven't taken on board the criticisms of killzone 1 (may i remind you liberation got 8.3). the devs can most definitely create an AAA, and probably will. They also have the ability to create a halo killer. Please don't think convince yourself this isimpossible

i for one certainly hopes this game bests halo, i'm a lot more attracted to the disturbing atmoshphere locationsand enemies

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Broman6015"]

so whos to blame gents?

360 not putting HDD in the core system, thus rockstar having to work around the problem?

or...

PS3 holding back the lead platform, the 360, because of its complexity to develop games?

or just maybe rockstar now having to release the game on both platforms at the same time and rockstar buckeling under the pressure?

marklarmer

they couldn't finish the PS3 port in time, and didn't want to give the 360 a free timed exclusive - fact. it's the stupid cell extending development cycles. 360 was the lead platform.

here in system wars you need to provide links if you say facts...

you'll laugh at me, but i have a friend at rockstar. won't name names.

just wait - i'm sure it'll come out through other people that work there in the days to come.

i'll call it a 'well founded rumor' from now on so you feel ok with everything :)

yeah its pretty obvious cos everythings been shown on the 360 so far, and cows try to blame DVD9.lol.

R* devs said DVD9 is giving them problems and holding the game back.

:cry:

Halo 3 alone won't last me for that long...

*goes back to play WoW*

To me, the bigger question is: WHEN did R* know that GTAIV wasn't going to make the Oct date and WHEN did they take M$'s $30M in cash??? Its not like this just happened this week (the delay). They HAD to know it was coming and were probably trying to hold off the announcement as long as possible. All while MS gives them a pile of cash to make the episodic content. Weak, R*, weak.

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Korrigan777

both will sell a lot but the hype on killzone (regardless ofif you like it or not) is monstrous. All this from an alpha build of a game.

Gears was a new IP that sold like crazy. i'm expecting a similar reaction, maybe not as big but similar.

For many gamers out there that'll pick up a ps3 like myself, killzone 2 will be the first experience of thatfranchise. Sony will market the game to death.

Oh well.

So much for MS' "triple threat" attack this holiday season.

What happens to the 360's halo3, madden, and gta4 combination. They were supposed to sell millions of 360's!!!!yazmanian-devil

Hmm...Halo 3, madden, mass effect, and bioshock will be more than enough, as well as assassins creed.

Wow guys, reality has just set in and I'm FURIOUS!

Do you realize we won't be playing GTAIV until THIS TIME next year. Take-Two's fiscal year starts February. Q2 is then May-June-July of next year, which is pretty much now. So we have to wait 1 more year to play the game.

**** THIS.

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[QUOTE="ToScA-"]They're dodging Halo 3! Halo 3 has no competition now in terms of sales, Bungie is gonna have a field day:lol:legalize3

how can a shooter be in competition with a open world crime game..... doesnt make sense totally different genres

Both games are proven causal hits... Without GTA4, many people going to flop to the x360 for Halo3... Without all the causal decided about whether which of the biggest game of to get, thanks to Rockstar Halo 3 has not competition in that sense..

halo a casual hit you gotta be kidding me right.... its the most hardcore game more then 80 % of those xbox halo players already bought a xbox360...

Don't you just LOVE when people pull numbers straight from their nether region? I do. How far up did you have to reach to get that 80% number? LOL. I hope you washed your hands before using your keyboard as well. :) It makes perfect sense to me, seeing as GTA was a multi plat, now that it is out for this holiday, it leaves the Halo 3 almost 0 SERIOUS competition, which means a majority of 360 owners will be picking this up this holiday.

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Broman6015"]

so whos to blame gents?

360 not putting HDD in the core system, thus rockstar having to work around the problem?

or...

PS3 holding back the lead platform, the 360, because of its complexity to develop games?

or just maybe rockstar now having to release the game on both platforms at the same time and rockstar buckeling under the pressure?

Hot_Potato

they couldn't finish the PS3 port in time, and didn't want to give the 360 a free timed exclusive - fact. it's the stupid cell extending development cycles. 360 was the lead platform.

here in system wars you need to provide links if you say facts...

you'll laugh at me, but i have a friend at rockstar. won't name names.

just wait - i'm sure it'll come out through other people that work there in the days to come.

i'll call it a 'well founded rumor' from now on so you feel ok with everything :)

Can you stop pulling this stuff out of your ass?

you wanna eat your words? take a look at what pachter just said: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=27326

I CANNOT WAIT UNTIL I'M VINDICATED. I'LL PUT ALL OF YOU IN MY SIG.

i don't care if you want to believe that I know someone at R* - like that's something insane and totally crazy. all you jealous kids can whine all you want. i'll just laugh at you more when the truth is totally public.

pachter is right like over 90% of the time because he knows people in the industry - so you wanna tell him he's pulling stuff out of his ass?

EDIT:

well now it appears that Gamespot has updated it's story on the delay based on new info from R*

--- 'delayed due to the time-intensive nature of developing on 2 consoles' ---

what else could this possibly mean? 360 has always been the lead platform, so I can't see how this means anything other than 'delayed due to the complication involved in developing for PS3'.

please enlighten me if you have other interpretations.