Guerrilla: 'KillZone 2 SP Campaign will be 10 hours long.'

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#1 Dreams-Visions
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I presume that is the high-end estimate, since it's coming from the developer. Probably means 6-8 hours for the rest of us.

Are you satisfied? What say you?

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#2 LightReflection
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Very. Apparently it's intense as hell so you don't want it going on too long.
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#3 GranReyUno
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It's a FPS! 8-10 hrs is good enough for me. As long as the action keeps rolling form start to finish than I will be just fine.
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#4 Pariah_001
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10 hours is fine. Especially for an FPS.

In fact, if an FPS surpassed 15-20 hours, I'd be annoyed. The genre is only so entertaining.

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#5 jakarai
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More then enough time for me. I am going to mainly be in the multiplayer anyway. Whenever they say games are a certain length it usually takes me a few hours longer to actually beat them.
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#6 aka_aj03
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yea but... online will keep you busy for long long time.
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#7 Cedmln
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Should be good enough length. No one said it would be long. Besides. Turn the reticle off and put the difficulty on hard and I'm sure you'll spend more time with it.
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#8 ultraking
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so it will be around 15 or 20 hours on hard mode. sounds good to me

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#9 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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Thats about what most FPS's are in length. Its certainly not going to have the replayability of a R2 or Halo 3 tho.
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#10 Lewisite
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Thats about what most FPS's are in length. Its certainly not going to have the replayability of a R2 or Halo 3 tho.Gh0st_Of_0nyx

And you know this how?

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#11 ThaGreatness007
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10 hrs is just enough time for me to finish it and then merk in online for 2 weeks than hop back sp to finish it again in the hardest mode available and hopefully get closer to getting that platinum trophy.
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#12 Dreams-Visions
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I'm kinda surprised that so many are accepting that comment at face value. I think you are all smart enough to know that 10 hours is probably something of an embellishment....
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Better than ahem...call of duty 4.
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#14 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Thats about what most FPS's are in length. Its certainly not going to have the replayability of a R2 or Halo 3 tho.Lewisite

And you know this how?

Because it dosent have the CoOp features that those games have its just a straight forward single player experience.
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#15 Lewisite
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[QUOTE="Lewisite"]

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Thats about what most FPS's are in length. Its certainly not going to have the replayability of a R2 or Halo 3 tho.Gh0st_Of_0nyx

And you know this how?

Because it dosent have the CoOp features that those games have its just a straight forward single player experience.

Ah well I suppose if that is what is important to you then you will be let down.

Team Death Match or what ever variation of it KZ2 is going to sport will be my game of choice.

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#16 LightReflection
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I thought co-op was being patched in at a later date? Not sure about that one.
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#17 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="LightReflection"]I thought co-op was being patched in at a later date? Not sure about that one.

I've learned not to hold my breath for earth-shattering add-on features. it took Motorstorm 8 months to get a meaningful set of features added to the game.
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#18 Malta_1980
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around 10 hrs is the perfect length for an FPS game.... we all know that once the sp campaign is done (maybe a couple of times )the majority of our time is spent on mp modes...

as i said in another thread a co-op mode would be a lovely addition to KZ2...

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#19 LightReflection
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="LightReflection"]I thought co-op was being patched in at a later date? Not sure about that one.

I've learned not to hold my breath for earth-shattering add-on features. it took Motorstorm 8 months to get a meaningful set of features added to the game.

Yeah, I'm not holding my breath for it either. Ah well, still will be absolutely baller.
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#20 Malta_1980
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[QUOTE="LightReflection"]I thought co-op was being patched in at a later date? Not sure about that one.Dreams-Visions
I've learned not to hold my breath for earth-shattering add-on features. it took Motorstorm 8 months to get a meaningful set of features added to the game.

lets just be positive and hope GG will maybe release an update round April with 4 new online maps + co-op mode :) (FOR FREE!!!) dreaming is so much fun :)

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#21 Lewisite
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I thought co-op was being patched in at a later date? Not sure about that one.LightReflection

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/08/22/killzone-2-co-op-to-be-patched-after-launch-bots-confirmed/

Maybe.

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#22 XturnalS
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Its a good amount of time and even at say a +- 2 hrs. that ranges from 8-12 which is not bad especially when compared to 07's best shooter COD4. Coop would be nice but it sounds like the MP suite is fully fleshed out.

And the trophies and difficulties should lend to multiple playthroughs.

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#23 GranReyUno
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I'm kinda surprised that so many are accepting that comment at face value. I think you are all smart enough to know that 10 hours is probably something of an embellishment....Dreams-Visions
I know what you are coming from but I for one do not enjoy long FPS. Resistance I am looking at you. I am not saying that FPS should be only 10hrs but I am saying for a title like K2 anything longer could ruin the game into a backtracking repetitive mess. R2 for example, I felt that the story was very shallow but I enjoyed the pacing of the action to the point that I enjoyed beating the game twice in 2 days. But this is only my opinion.
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#24 Malta_1980
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]I'm kinda surprised that so many are accepting that comment at face value. I think you are all smart enough to know that 10 hours is probably something of an embellishment....GranReyUno
I know what you are coming from but I for one do not enjoy long FPS. Resistance I am looking at you. I am not saying that FPS should be only 10hrs but I am saying for a title like K2 anything longer could ruin the game into a backtracking repetitive mess. R2 for example, I felt that the story was very shallow but I enjoyed the pacing of the action to the point that I enjoyed beating the game twice in 2 days. But this is only my opinion.

i agree with the above, we know that FPS games forte is not their story therefore i can imagine a 20hrs sp campaign would end up with repeating a thousand times the same tasks/objectives in different environments..

I'd rather have a short sp campaing like in COD4 but with a good pacing and action packed sequences... i think a 10hrs campaign is long enough and if GG make sure its well paced and action filled it will surely keep gamers entertained..

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#25 FrozenLiquid
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It's okay for a guy like me who's got a short attention span and has very little time to play games ( :( ), but I'm amazed at the amount of people actually accepting the 10 hour estimate from developers. Maybe it's just because it's Killzone 2
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#26 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="GranReyUno"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]I'm kinda surprised that so many are accepting that comment at face value. I think you are all smart enough to know that 10 hours is probably something of an embellishment....Malta_1980

I know what you are coming from but I for one do not enjoy long FPS. Resistance I am looking at you. I am not saying that FPS should be only 10hrs but I am saying for a title like K2 anything longer could ruin the game into a backtracking repetitive mess. R2 for example, I felt that the story was very shallow but I enjoyed the pacing of the action to the point that I enjoyed beating the game twice in 2 days. But this is only my opinion.

i agree with the above, we know that FPS games forte is not their story therefore i can imagine a 20hrs sp campaign would end up with repeating a thousand times the same tasks/objectives in different environments..

I'd rather have a short sp campaing like in COD4 but with a good pacing and action packed sequences... i think a 10hrs campaign is long enough and if GG make sure its well paced and action filled it will surely keep gamers entertained..

hmmm. so you all didn't like the length of Half-life? Half-Life 2? Halo? Unreal? Descent? Doom? Doom 2? Dark Forces II? Deus Ex? Bioshock? because all of those are well over 10 hours. well over 20 hours, really. Just wondering, really. I remember when this generation started and people laughed at how short some games had become. Cows laughed at the length of Kameo, Condemned, GRAW and others. Then R&C, Uncharted and Heavenly Sword came out and were shorter. Not it seems like people have just accepted extremely short games. Just an observation.
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#27 Malta_1980
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Dreams-Visions

hmmm. so you all didn't like the length of Half-life? Half-Life 2? Halo? Unreal? Descent? Doom? Doom 2? Dark Forces II? Deus Ex? Bioshock? because all of those are well over 10 hours. well over 20 hours, really. Just wondering, really. I remember when this generation started and people laughed at how short some games had become. Cows laughed at the length of Kameo, Condemned, GRAW and others. Then R&C, Uncharted and Heavenly Sword came out and were shorter. Not it seems like people have just accepted extremely short games. Just an observation.

with the exception of those which are story-oriented therefore a longer sp campaign is welcome others which are more action oriented i'd rather have a shorter campaign but action packed and well paced... obviously if devs are good enough to have long sp campaigns and still keep it fresh and varied its always welcome :)

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#28 one_on_one
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I just hope it's a good 10 hour long experience and leaves you with satisfaction wanting more.
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#29 killab2oo5
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If only I could remember the people that just knew the game would be long due to the time and money being put into it.
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#30 DrinkDuff
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Over three years of development and all they could manage is a 10 hour campaign (max)?

I'm tired of 8-10 hour campaigns. We pay $60 for games, why can't we get longer campaigns?

I miss 20 hour campaigns.

Seriously.

It's getting a little silly now.

Don't justify this, it will only encourage devs to continue giving us short games.

And don't use the excuse, "its an FPS", so what?

If you plan on replaying the campaign sometime in the future, chances are you would have been satisfied with a longer campaign.

If an FPS is good, the gameplay will hold up over 20 hours.

Just saying.

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#31 EuropeGangsta
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Satisfied I guess, but I hope we haven't seen too many videos...
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#32 Toriko42
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Very. Apparently it's intense as hell so you don't want it going on too long.LightReflection
:roll: What kind of defense is that lol Even then this is standard, so whats the news here...
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#33 skrat_01
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Replayability is what concerns me.

Not sure how a linear shooter - focused on contained 'corridoors' can have it; perhaps different characters and routes like the first KZ.....

Still, if it is good, it should be re-playable and enjoyable each time.

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#34 Lto_thaG
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6-7 hours for me.A shame,that's a little too short.It's gonna be great though.
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Yeah I read some where that you have to walk to a certain spot to trigger more enemies. I just hope these enemies aren't at the same spots during different play throughs. So I don't mind if it's only 10 hours long, I just hope every playthough is different.
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#36 Dreams-Visions
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Yeah I read some where that you have to walk to a certain spot to trigger more enemies. I just hope these enemies aren't at the same spots during different play throughs. So I don't mind if it's only 10 hours long, I just hope every playthough is different.one_on_one
well...I think Call of Duty 2 was like that. if you don't go forward, more enemies won't pop out. as long as you don't turtle, I guess you'll be okay.
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#37 mentzer
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KZ 2 is not Bioshock or Half-Life.

The meat of the game, like COD 4, will be the online MP.

And since it's first party, you KNOW there is already DL content being developed.

No problem.

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i hope they have a mission like all Ghillied Up(or was this the name of the achievement) like the one in COD4. Come to think of it i enjoyed COD 4 campaign more then most games in 07. It was just that awesome, all Ghillied Up being my favourite mission.
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#40 Toriko42
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KZ 2 is not Bioshock or Half-Life.

The meat of the game, like COD 4, will be the online MP.

And since it's first party, you KNOW there is already DL content being developed.

No problem.

mentzer
Odd considering both those games had a campaign of around 6-10 hours...
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#41 Malta_1980
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its not bad for an FPS having a 10hrs sp campaign but I think GG made a bad decision not putting a co-op mode... lets hope they release an update/patch in which co-op is available..

Btw is it true that the game is expected to get released 1st week of Feb in EU ?

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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

I know what you are coming from but I for one do not enjoy long FPS. Resistance I am looking at you. I am not saying that FPS should be only 10hrs but I am saying for a title like K2 anything longer could ruin the game into a backtracking repetitive mess. R2 for example, I felt that the story was very shallow but I enjoyed the pacing of the action to the point that I enjoyed beating the game twice in 2 days. But this is only my opinion.GranReyUno

i agree with the above, we know that FPS games forte is not their story therefore i can imagine a 20hrs sp campaign would end up with repeating a thousand times the same tasks/objectives in different environments..

I'd rather have a short sp campaing like in COD4 but with a good pacing and action packed sequences... i think a 10hrs campaign is long enough and if GG make sure its well paced and action filled it will surely keep gamers entertained..

hmmm. so you all didn't like the length of Half-life? Half-Life 2? Halo? Unreal? Descent? Doom? Doom 2? Dark Forces II? Deus Ex? Bioshock? because all of those are well over 10 hours. well over 20 hours, really. Just wondering, really. I remember when this generation started and people laughed at how short some games had become. Cows laughed at the length of Kameo, Condemned, GRAW and others. Then R&C, Uncharted and Heavenly Sword came out and were shorter. Not it seems like people have just accepted extremely short games. Just an observation.

Well I didn't like Halo or Unreal once it became big on consoles but adding in Deus Ex and Half-Life isn't fair. Those games are in a whole other league. I wouldn't say that I became excepting of games being short because I didn't support R&C, Uncharted until they were half off from the original price and HS was rent. I feel that certain games should be long while others should be short. Length doesn't always = FTW. I have also enjoyed movies and albums that were shorter than others.
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#43 II_Seraphim_II
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6-8 hrs is fine for me.
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[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="mentzer"]

KZ 2 is not Bioshock or Half-Life.

The meat of the game, like COD 4, will be the online MP.

And since it's first party, you KNOW there is already DL content being developed.

No problem.

Odd considering both those games had a campaign of around 6-10 hours...

What? What did you do? Fly through those games? I'm guessing 10 hours is perfect for KZ2. Knowing how i play most games, this one will probably take me 15 hours to complete. Yeah, i like to play my games slowly, to get the most enjoyment out of them.
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Yeah, i like to play my games slowly, to get the most enjoyment out of them.lusitanogamer
So you walk through them :P Yea,I'm with Toriko..I finish my games fast..It's not that I rush,I just seem to end up against the final boss or ending,in a quite short period of time.
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According to the Resistance 2 stats, I finished the SP in 8 hours, 15 minutes. That's not factoring in the time where I died and restarted from checkpoints so it must have been 12+ hours altogether. So 10 sounds fine.
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#47 EuropeGangsta
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]I'm kinda surprised that so many are accepting that comment at face value.IronBass

If it were a 360 game, the reactions wouldn't be that positive, I'm sure.

Ha, you're right.
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[QUOTE="lusitanogamer"] Yeah, i like to play my games slowly, to get the most enjoyment out of them.Lto_thaG
So you walk through them :P

Nah, i don't exactly "walk" through the whole game. I just like to explore every single place you can reach with your character. It's in my nature. I'm a huge survival horror fan and those games usually take a good amount of exploration.
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[QUOTE="mentzer"]

KZ 2 is not Bioshock or Half-Life.

The meat of the game, like COD 4, will be the online MP.

And since it's first party, you KNOW there is already DL content being developed.

No problem.

Toriko42
Odd considering both those games had a campaign of around 6-10 hours...




and even more odd, bioshock had no MP at all! :O


the SP is here for the fact so that we won't havta figure out the controlls and weapons while getting maimed being a noob online
10 hours is fine
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In a time when most of my friends don't even PLAY the single player in FPS anymore...yeah that's fine. Thats enough hours for them to ignore. Man that really bugs me that they do that.