halflife2 is NOT the greatest fps ever made......

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#101 foxhound_fox
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Doom is. It still hasn't been surpassed by any game whether it be Painkiller or Serious Sam. And without Doom, there would not have been an "FPS genre" and no Half Life, no Deus Ex, no System Shock, no Halo, no nothing.
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#102 ninjaxams
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You have 6,400 posts and you havent figured out how irritated people get when they see a block of ice as an entire message?

Man use the enter key and some capital letters.

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oh i know :P i love how defensive ppl get, and no one can really bring an intelligent disscusion to the table.
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#103 angelkimne
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[QUOTE="shadyd1717"]

You have 6,400 posts and you havent figured out how irritated people get when they see a block of ice as an entire message?

Man use the enter key and some capital letters.

ninjaxams

oh i know :P i love how defensive ppl get, and no one can really bring an intelligent disscusion to the table.

Including you.

You just act like everyone has to agree with your opinion. Well they don't. And your not gonna convince anyone that Half Life 2 isn't as good or bad as they already think it is.

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#104 mo0ksi
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Doom is. It still hasn't been surpassed by any game whether it be Painkiller or Serious Sam. And without Doom, there would not have been an "FPS genre" and no Half Life, no Deus Ex, no System Shock, no Halo, no nothing.foxhound_fox
I could agree with you on this fully. But from what I've been playing in Deus Ex it seems that it really, really deserves the title as the best FPS of all time.
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#105 NaiKoN9293
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[QUOTE="mattbbpl"]In your opinion, what is the greatest FPS game?xxastrocreepxx

If we look at things in a "when they were realesed" kinda way. Then I would totally agree with the CHoice of DUKE NUKEM 3D as the greatest FPS ever.

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#106 cliff122316
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its my favorite game ever. and no one is arguing with you because you cant argue with opinions set in stone.

you dont like the shooting mechanics. how do i argue with that? i like them. you dont. end of story

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#107 foxhound_fox
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I could agree with you on this fully. But from what I've been playing in Deus Ex it seems that it really, really deserves the title as the best FPS of all time.mo0ksi

I really need to play that one... along with System Shock 2 (finish it at least). I was going to pick up SS2 several days ago but went out and bought a bunch of PS2, PS and Saturn games and am now addicted to Persona 3. It's going to be at least another 80 hours before I can even think of playing anything else... >_>
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#108 Pinkyimp
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[QUOTE="mo0ksi"]I could agree with you on this fully. But from what I've been playing in Deus Ex it seems that it really, really deserves the title as the best FPS of all time.foxhound_fox

I really need to play that one... along with System Shock 2 (finish it at least). I was going to pick up SS2 several days ago but went out and bought a bunch of PS2, PS and Saturn games and am now addicted to Persona 3. It's going to be at least another 80 hours before I can even think of playing anything else... >_>

deux ex on steam is i think only 10..its a great game, but i never played SS2..

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#109 mo0ksi
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="mo0ksi"]I could agree with you on this fully. But from what I've been playing in Deus Ex it seems that it really, really deserves the title as the best FPS of all time.Pinkyimp


I really need to play that one... along with System Shock 2 (finish it at least). I was going to pick up SS2 several days ago but went out and bought a bunch of PS2, PS and Saturn games and am now addicted to Persona 3. It's going to be at least another 80 hours before I can even think of playing anything else... >_>

deux ex on steam is i think only 10..its a great game, but i never played SS2..

I played SS2 for only about 5 hours on my old Dell Dimension because since that I have XP on that system I was able to run it. I'll just say that those were some of the best 5 hours of gaming I've experienced in a while.
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#110 juno84
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It was a good game, but by no means the best FPS. I think what bothered me most about HL2 were how innaccurate a lot of the weapons were as well as this sense of being on rails practically. You were either going forwards or backwards. The evironments looked great, but you are basically just walking through a series of halls (figuratively) the whole game. I wouldn't even consider HL1 the best FPS. I'm not sure which I'd pick. Probably have to replay some of the mid/late 90s finest to pick the best.
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#111 stepat201
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[QUOTE="mo0ksi"]I could agree with you on this fully. But from what I've been playing in Deus Ex it seems that it really, really deserves the title as the best FPS of all time.foxhound_fox

I really need to play that one... along with System Shock 2 (finish it at least). I was going to pick up SS2 several days ago but went out and bought a bunch of PS2, PS and Saturn games and am now addicted to Persona 3. It's going to be at least another 80 hours before I can even think of playing anything else... >_>

Deus Ex is free on Gametap,play it!

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#112 mattacular
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[QUOTE="mo0ksi"]I could agree with you on this fully. But from what I've been playing in Deus Ex it seems that it really, really deserves the title as the best FPS of all time.foxhound_fox

I really need to play that one... along with System Shock 2 (finish it at least). I was going to pick up SS2 several days ago but went out and bought a bunch of PS2, PS and Saturn games and am now addicted to Persona 3. It's going to be at least another 80 hours before I can even think of playing anything else... >_>

i agree deus ex is definately up there. For some reason i could never get into half life 2 it was boring and monotonous for the most part and the appaling driving sections killed it for me.

Its hard to pick a favourite but my top few would be Deus ex, goldeneye, wolf 3d (enjoyed it a lot more than doom and played it so much when growing up) and Halo 1 because playing with my brother was so much fun and it had so many great moments - like when you landed in over the beach

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#113 MrGrimFandango
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So u go to HL2 NOW, some 3 or 4 years after its release and tell me it has BAD AI?

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#114 Ballroompirate
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I have to agree, HLF2 was a good FPS but it lacked the FPS vibe to be the greatest.
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#115 Kez1984
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I have to agree, HLF2 was a good FPS but it lacked the FPS vibe to be the greatest.Ballroompirate

Say's a halo 3 lover, in his opinion.

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#116 stepat201
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So u go to HL2 NOW, some 3 or 4 years after its release and tell me it has BAD AI?

MrGrimFandango

I thought that was the games only flaw. Go play Half-Life 1,the soldier AI in that game can actually mesure up to current-gen AI. Ofcourse that could simply be because no devs seem to really be making an effort with AI anymore,not since FEAR (but Clear Skies looks promising)

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#117 Ballroompirate
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[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]I have to agree, HLF2 was a good FPS but it lacked the FPS vibe to be the greatest.Kez1984

Say's a halo 3 lover, in his opinion.

Yeah maybe cause I love MP in FPS shooter? something Half Life 2 lacked in (blah blah yeah CS was a add on MP for Half Life thats completely different from Half Life).

Oh and the whole hero not being able to talk (Gordon Freeman) was so PS1 era.

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#118 Pinkyimp
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[QUOTE="Kez1984"]

[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]I have to agree, HLF2 was a good FPS but it lacked the FPS vibe to be the greatest.Ballroompirate

Say's a halo 3 lover, in his opinion.

Yeah maybe cause I love MP in FPS shooter? something Half Life 2 lacked in (blah blah yeah CS was a add on MP for Half Life thats completely different from Half Life).

Oh and the whole hero not being able to talk (Gordon Freeman) was so PS1 era.

ok first of all HL2 had HL2 Deathmatch which was a MP mode for HL

So what if the main charater dosent talk..it dident hinder my experience at all..

also what is "FPS vibe"???

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#119 Relys
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You look like a complete idiot not giving any comparsions.
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#120 Kez1984
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[QUOTE="Kez1984"]

[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]I have to agree, HLF2 was a good FPS but it lacked the FPS vibe to be the greatest.Ballroompirate

Say's a halo 3 lover, in his opinion.

Yeah maybe cause I love MP in FPS shooter? something Half Life 2 lacked in (blah blah yeah CS was a add on MP for Half Life thats completely different from Half Life).

Oh and the whole hero not being able to talk (Gordon Freeman) was so PS1 era.

Yea because Master Chief is the frickin height of characterization.

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#121 devious742
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WOW another "i hate HL tHREAD" they always come from you...remember this

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="ninjaxams"]valve=no talant hacks. most overated devs in the world........ninjaxams

:lol:

Yea totally re-inventing a genre makes them no talent hacks

:lol:

I don't think they re-invented anything. halflife 1 wasn't some godsend to the fps genre IMO, and halflife 2 is just one big tech demo with lame AI and horribly outdated (for 2004 even) gunplay.

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http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26399671&msg_id=301723894#301723894

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#122 ninjaxams
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WOW another "i hate HL2 tHREAD" they always come from you...remember this

[QUOTE="ninjaxams"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="ninjaxams"]valve=no talant hacks. most overated devs in the world........devious742

:lol:

Yea totally re-inventing a genre makes them no talent hacks

:lol:

I don't think they re-invented anything. halflife 1 wasn't some godsend to the fps genre IMO, and halflife 2 is just one big tech demo with lame AI and horribly outdated (for 2004 even) gunplay.

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lol yeah i remember :P but GSs credibility=jack ****....
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#123 meggido
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Doom is. It still hasn't been surpassed by any game whether it be Painkiller or Serious Sam. And without Doom, there would not have been an "FPS genre" and no Half Life, no Deus Ex, no System Shock, no Halo, no nothing.foxhound_fox

Wolf 3D?

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#124 Kez1984
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[QUOTE="devious742"]

WOW another "i hate HL2 tHREAD" they always come from you...remember this

[QUOTE="ninjaxams"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="ninjaxams"]valve=no talant hacks. most overated devs in the world........ninjaxams

:lol:

Yea totally re-inventing a genre makes them no talent hacks

:lol:

I don't think they re-invented anything. halflife 1 wasn't some godsend to the fps genre IMO, and halflife 2 is just one big tech demo with lame AI and horribly outdated (for 2004 even) gunplay.

Photobucket:|

lol yeah i remember :P but GSs credibility=jack ****....

I tend to agree about gamespot. That's why I use metacritic.

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#125 iamshivy
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Remember when HL2 came out, at the time it was the best shooter available.

Now that many games have adopted the innovations HL2 did and moved into more modern improvements I can see why some people may have difficulty appreciating it today.

AnnoyedDragon
thats pretty much why i thought the orange box was crap.. it was probably gold, way back then, but now. ha. dukenukem 3d ) still the best fps
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#126 ArisShadows
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I personally say Unreal Tournament is, but thats just my opinion. Opinions are one in million.

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#127 ganon546
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1. Goldeneye 007

2. Half Life 2

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#128 vicmackey39
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Half Life 2 is the best FPS ever made. The AI, the World, the scripting, the weapons. Everything is flawless

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#129 kinger256
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Goldeneye

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#130 SpinoRaptor
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The only thing I didn't like about HL2 was the ending.
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#131 Kez1984
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The only thing I didn't like about HL2 was the ending.SpinoRaptor

Story-wise, it was abit abrupt, but when time stops and the gman comes in from no-were it's one of the coolest thing's I've seen in a game.

Reading raising the bar, the alternate start to halflife 2 would have been awesome, I wish they used it.

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#132 Pure_Awesome
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I dont think its the Greatest FPS, but its in the top 3.
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#133 deactivated-59d151f079814
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I would agree some what.. But it also has some of the best multiplayers out there.. Such as team Fortress 2, Counterstrike, and Day of Defeat.. And I consider those HL2 multiplayers, because they shipped with the silver pack in its original release, and the orange box comes with HL2 which includes team Fotress 2.
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#134 hoola
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One thing i found great about Half life 2 is the fact that there are NO cutscenes in the game other than the very beginning and the very end so you were never taken out of the action for any reason other than loading which still just stopped the game where you were and continued to show you a picture of the are you were in so even in the loading screnes you were still in the game. I found it to be one of the most well thought out games i have ever played.
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#135 lucas_kelly
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Coming from someone who gave Halo 2 a 9.9 and Shadowrun a 8.5. You can point out as many flaws as you want but it doesn't matter because thats your opinion. It is the best FPS of all time in my opinion, accept others opions.
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#136 DivergeUnify
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yeah halo 3 is much better :roll:
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#137 t3hTwinky
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I like how when something isn't flat-out amazing, it suddenly becomes "garbage". :roll:

Half-Life 2's AI was perfectly fine, and functioned quite adequetely. If you want to see actual poor AI at work, play this.

And for some reason people don't seem to get the point of a silent protaganist; Gordon Freeman is supposed to be you, the player. He's in the story, but its not really about him, its about the characters around him.

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#138 trakem
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True, it's not the greatest FPS ever, but it still owns Halo 3 about 5 times over.
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#139 MuffinPunk
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Ok, well I think Half Life 2 is the greatest FPS. And you know why? Because I enjoyed it more than other FPS games. I love the story, the characters and the gameplay. I respect your opinion but its not mine.
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#140 FamiBox
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Thing is.... HL2 (the first game) ... I didn't much like the hovercraft sections. And like any FPS, it gets repetitive.

But, the characters and story in Half Life 2 stand out for me.

I actually preferred Half Life 2: episode 1 in a way... and am yet to play episode 2.

The original Half Life 1 was quite good too, but the last levels were a bit of a pain.

I guess Half Life isn't perfect, but I can't think of any FPS off the top of my head that I prefer.

I will say that the original Halo is great though (on the PC.)

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#141 dream431ca
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I didn't play Half-life 1 until 3 or 4 years after it's release. When I played it, I was blown away. The game was fantastic. I loved Half-life 2. Half-life 2 does something better than any FPS to date...immersive gameplay. There are no cutscenes, you are always in control of Gordon for the entire game and the action sequences are some of the best I have ever seen. Half-life 2 is my favorite FPS.
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#142 solidx12
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Remember when HL2 came out, at the time it was the best shooter available.

Now that many games have adopted the innovations HL2 did and moved into more modern improvements I can see why some people may have difficulty appreciating it today.

AnnoyedDragon

i started playin HL2 again, because i just decided to buy HL2:epi1 and 2.

eventhough i havent all those great present shooters(COD4,BIOSHOCK,FEAR,HALO3...)

HL2 was a revolutionary game as how people look at FPS.

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#143 ninjaxams
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Half Life 2 is the best FPS ever made. The AI, the World, the scripting, the weapons. Everything is flawless

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fail
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#144 stepat201
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[QUOTE="vicmackey39"]

Half Life 2 is the best FPS ever made. The AI, the World, the scripting, the weapons. Everything is flawless

ninjaxams

fail

Stop. Your whole thread is fail,along with your attempt at trolling.

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#145 NiTiZ
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Half Life is a strange one. The gameplay is spot on, AI seemed great and the graphics were fantastic. The story just didnt wash over with me, im not sure why. Heck, even Halo's story impressed me more. If im going to name the best FPS ever, it would probably be Deus Ex
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#146 Brainkiller05
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[QUOTE="devious742"]

WOW another "i hate HL2 tHREAD" they always come from you...remember this

[QUOTE="ninjaxams"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

[QUOTE="ninjaxams"]valve=no talant hacks. most overated devs in the world........ninjaxams

:lol:

Yea totally re-inventing a genre makes them no talent hacks

:lol:

I don't think they re-invented anything. halflife 1 wasn't some godsend to the fps genre IMO, and halflife 2 is just one big tech demo with lame AI and horribly outdated (for 2004 even) gunplay.

Photobucket:|

lol yeah i remember :P but GSs credibility=jack ****....

Wow... this guy is incredible, what are you trying to prove by making this topic?
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#147 ninjaxams
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[QUOTE="ninjaxams"][QUOTE="vicmackey39"]

Half Life 2 is the best FPS ever made. The AI, the World, the scripting, the weapons. Everything is flawless

stepat201

fail

Stop. Your whole thread is fail,along with your attempt at trolling.

its an honost opinion. obviously i hit some sore spots since this thread is (somehow) still going and i'm actually finding this whole thing quite funny a the moment :P
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#148 ninjaxams
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what ever, i'm going to bed. have fun with your overated tech demo kids....
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#149 Jrfanfreak88
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Unfortunately I don't understand the appeal that HL2 has. I've been playing it for about 4 hours and I have to admit the game hasn't pulled me in at all. Overall i've been pretty bored and not impressed. The gravity gun is cool but I dunno, the game just doesn't seem to interest me all that much.
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#150 Kez1984
Member since 2007 • 4548 Posts
[QUOTE="stepat201"][QUOTE="ninjaxams"][QUOTE="vicmackey39"]

Half Life 2 is the best FPS ever made. The AI, the World, the scripting, the weapons. Everything is flawless

ninjaxams

fail

Stop. Your whole thread is fail,along with your attempt at trolling.

its an honost opinion.

You seem to like shouting it from the rooftops, but when people seem to give there own input back, which seems over-whelming different from your own for the most part, you dont handle it very well. :cry: