halflife2 is NOT the greatest fps ever made......

[QUOTE="KrazyKev26"]ok what do you think is better? Halo?.ninjaxams

Translation: I can dish it out, but I can't take it.

[QUOTE="ninjaxams"][QUOTE="KrazyKev26"]ok what do you think is better? Halo?.gecko_hawaii13

Translation: I can dish it out, but I can't take it.

yeah, the thread went to hell about then.

Half Life 2 is a joke I played it once and i can honestly say i prefered resistancePS_John

Another reliable source speaks! In my opinion you have not played it.

Of course it's not the best FPS ever. It belongs to this title.

mo0ksi

and lmfao at anyone who thinks so. what are the two core rules of fps design? shooting and avoiding being shot. hl2 has lacking shooting mechanics and poor ai. i don't give a damn how great your games pacing is, how good your physics are, or how lifelike your facial animations may be, it doesn't mean jack in the world of fps design. even the level design is severly boring and linear. although i will say the way they flowed together was cool. add to that a main character with ZERO personality, and you have a completely bland game. its said that his most defining trait is his pase black framed geek glasses. also, the story is complete and utter nonsense, something that HL fanboys cling to with white knuckles. but like i said above, shooting machanics and terrible ai are chief amoung the impotant fps design aspects. hl2 fails on many levels but by no means a bad game. just completely, and horribly overated...ninjaxams

I.......must.........agree.

One of the least interesting FPS games I've ever played. The long boat driving sequence was the pits.

But 'Don't Go To Ravenholm" was one of the best levels in any game.

Again, though...overall...one of the least compelling I've played (I should note, I only play the best...so I'm not comparing it to KillZone or some such).

I beat it once and have zero desire to play it anymore.

[QUOTE="Relys"][QUOTE="Planeforger"][QUOTE="DeathScape666"]

Metroid Prime 3: Corruption craps on Half-Life 2, but I still like Half-Life 2.

yellowandmushy

I was a huge fan of the first two MP games, but the third game was easily the worst in the series.

Sure, MP3 has better gameplay than Half-Life 2, and HL2 may not be much of an FPS, but HL2 is still an incredible game (in the same way that Oblivion is a terrible RPG, but a decent game).

I didn't really like MP3 at all. I never was able to even finish it...

I must say...I did enjoy MP3 more than Half Life 2.

But MP3's ending was atrocious. But I was absolutely addicted to MP3 for awhile there.

Half-Life 2 is one of my favorite games because of how well it tells its story and the emotional attachment I felt with the characters. I agree with the AI not being the best there is, but I found the shooting segments to be fantastic. I wouldn't go as far as saying its the best FPS ever made, but I still consider it a classic.DrachulaX

I guess I had a different experience.

And yea...the AI is by and large god-awful. especially ally AI. They are frustratingly stupid.

It's like their AI routine says they need to, at every possible opportunity, snatch death from the jaws of life.

and not one person here has made an intelligent argument otherwise...ninjaxams

Yeah not even you :P

Your right, it's not the greatest FPS ever made: It's the greatest GAME ever made.

[QUOTE="ninjaxams"]and lmfao at anyone who thinks so. what are the two core rules of fps design? shooting and avoiding being shot. hl2 has lacking shooting mechanics and poor ai. i don't give a damn how great your games pacing is, how good your physics are, or how lifelike your facial animations may be, it doesn't mean jack in the world of fps design. even the level design is severly boring and linear. although i will say the way they flowed together was cool. add to that a main character with ZERO personality, and you have a completely bland game. its said that his most defining trait is his pase black framed geek glasses. also, the story is complete and utter nonsense, something that HL fanboys cling to with white knuckles. but like i said above, shooting machanics and terrible ai are chief amoung the impotant fps design aspects. hl2 fails on many levels but by no means a bad game. just completely, and horribly overated...tenaka2

You should try playing a game before reviewing it.

I played it all the way through and I agree with ninjaxams comments. I could easily believe that he played the game based on his comments.

I wish I could say I liked the game as much as a lot of other people here do, but it just wasn't a memorable experience. I totally think that the game was bland as well.

emotional attachments to the characters? really?

Dreams-Visions

OFP is number 1.

Oh and hl2 and hl are awsome.

deux ex on steam is i think only 10..its a great game, but i never played SS2..Pinkyimp

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http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26399671&msg_id=301723894#301723894

either devious742 or ninjaxams

I was a huge fan of the first two MP games, but the third game was easily the worst in the series.

Sure, MP3 has better gameplay than Half-Life 2, and HL2 may not be much of an FPS, but HL2 is still an incredible game (in the same way that Oblivion is a terrible RPG, but a decent game).

Planeforger

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"]In your opinion, what is the greatest FPS game?ng1234

You are right - the original Half-Life is.

And sure, the gunplay isn't anything spectacular in HL2 but you can completely forgive that after you get the gravity gun, best weapon in first-person shooter history. Sure, gameplay is the most important part of games but a fantastic game still requires a lot more.

deux ex on steam is i think only 10..its a great game, but i never played SS2..Pinkyimp

[QUOTE="PS2_ROCKS"]I think Call of Duty 4 sucks, but not quite as much as Halo 1 or 2. What did these overrated games bring to the industry? Overhauled physics, gameplay, AI, story? No, just better graphics and an online experience people go crazy for. Compare Half Life 2's campaign to either of these games and it easily stomps them. But I'm certain you haven't beat Half Life 2 and is probably the kind of gamer who skips all the cutescenes of a game so you can get on with the killing. So what you probably meant to say is you think Half Life 2 is overrated because it doesn't have a multiplayer feature.super_mario_128

Did you originally intend to make your post as ironic as it is?

Half Life 2 doesn't have cut-scenes.
Half Life 2: Deathmatch and Counter Strike Source are both online and come bundled with HL2.

I'd played through Half-life 2 multiples times since I first bought it many years ago, I'm actually playing through it right now again to kill some time. I can honestly, without a doubt, say that I would choose Halo: Combat Evolved's single player over Half-Life 2s. But, this is all subjective of course.

To my knowledge, Half-life 2 has two cutscenes - the beginning, and the end. :P

Deathmatch didn't ship with Half-Life 2 - Counter Strike Source is a seperate game and thus cannot be compared to any other game with Half-Life 2.

[QUOTE="ninjaxams"][QUOTE="KrazyKev26"]ok what do you think is better? Halo?.gecko_hawaii13

Translation: I can dish it out, but I can't take it.

[QUOTE="thinicer"]

[QUOTE="ninjaxams"]its not about taste, its about pointing out flaws in game that some think is so damn perfect...ninjaxams

Why reign on the parade of others? What's wrong if lots of people here think Half-Life 2 is the best FPS ever?

[QUOTE="KrazyKev26"]ok what do you think is better? Halo?.ninjaxams

Then send me a private message. I don't care about belittling you in front of strangers, I am genuinely puzzled at what you could possibly think is better than HL2. I can see parts of Far Cry dethroning it, maybe the atmosphere of F.E.A.R., but I can't think of an overall better FPS than HL2. BF2, COD4, Unreal Tourney 2K4, Halo 3 and CS:S are still the cream of the crop, more or less, but I think HL2 is king amongst them.

good ol duke IMO is better than HL2

Prime 3 had easily the best controls and gameplay but it indeed was the worst. Not only did it have a terrible story but the ending was so disappointing and anti-climactic that I became angry. That and the fact they didn't give Samus a voiced role when she was never a silent protagonist and all the other characters in the game were voice pissed me off the most. foxhound_fox

Man. It's like you're in my mind.

GET OUTTA MAH HEAD, CHARLES!

The day I beat that game, I posted a thread with the same sentiment. Worst final boss and ending ever.

[QUOTE="ninjaxams"][QUOTE="KrazyKev26"]ok what do you think is better? Halo?.excelR83

Then send me a private message. I don't care about belittling you in front of strangers, I am genuinely puzzled at what you could possibly think is better than HL2. I can see parts of Far Cry dethroning it, maybe the atmosphere of F.E.A.R., but I can't think of an overall better FPS than HL2. BF2, COD4, Unreal Tourney 2K4, Halo 3 and CS:S are still the cream of the crop, more or less, but I think HL2 is king amongst them.

I think you need to accept the fact that we all have our own opinions. I also don't feel HL2 is the best FPS. There are a lot of elements that can be used to determined which game is the all-time best FPS, but for me the overall experience is what mattered, and HL2 just felt "bland" (someone else used this to describe the game). Amazing graphics and a lot of other plusses too I'm sure, but it just wasn't fun enough. I've mentioned in a previous post that I had a lot more fun playing Doom I, II, and III.

I didn't mention this earlier, but I also enjoyed Halo 1 and 2 more than HL2 when I played through them. Just my preference. Couldn't tell you which one I'd rather play now though as I don't really have the desire to play any of them again. I'd probably play Doom III again though :).

Opinions are awesome.

I just beat HL2 a couple of days ago, not having played it four years ago, and not having read anything about it. The first thing I said to my gf when we finished HL2 was: How is it friggin possible that bland, repetetive, unoriginal and awfully staged shoot-em-ups like Halo3 or Call of Duty get scores above 7 when there are games like this out for four years?

Man. It's like you're in my mind.

GET OUTTA MAH HEAD, CHARLES!

The day I beat that game, I posted a thread with the same sentiment. Worst final boss and ending ever.

Dreams-Visions

Yea, The Orange Box is actually.... angelkimne

Its one of the best value and one of the most fun, but the graphics are sub par, but 5 games for about £20 is great!

Yeah, I got it with the second one on Steam a while ago... just haven't got around to playing them.

[QUOTE="either devious742 or ninjaxams"]:|

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26399671&msg_id=301723894#301723894

foxhound_fox

ng1234

cool, an opinion..;)

why are ppl still going on with this....that ninja only does pure"i hate HL" threads..that's why i put a link under the gamespot score BTW i wasn't saying that HL reinvented the FPS genre...ninja was saying that it didn't..but since this is gamespot and we go by GS scores/reviews..it felt like the right thing to do..by posting that GS SCORE