Halo 3 >>>> all PC shooters.

[QUOTE="Drizzt13"][QUOTE="dracula_16"]

[QUOTE="GarchomPro"]Its quite annoying when people try and present an opinionated arguement as fact. Its your opinion thats Halo is better then all Pc games :roll: no matter how dumb it sounds. But its not fact. I can just as easily say CS 1.6 >>>>>>>> Halo 3dracula_16

But the thing is... I backed up my claims with history. No PC game has scored a 9.7 like Halo: CE.

Because of different standards. Tell me what was a good shooter for the Xbox before Halo came out? Exactly nothing. Halo is a great shooter for the consoles, but its not better than all PC shooters. Also if scores is your only argument than thats just sad.

The reason why there wasn't a good game on the Xbox before Halo is because it was a launch game.

fine name 4 good shooters on consoles before Halo... You can't even do that.... How sad.

lol, shut up. There are no higher pc standards, thats just a silly myth. Unreal Tournament also got a higher review score that year. So now are you going to say that Unreal Tournament games have lower standards than other pc shooters?

kevy619

half-life 2 beat halo 2 for shooter of the year despite scoring lower.

the pc version of star wars battlefront got the "best" tag despite scoring lower than the xbox version. why is that?

"Ironically, though the PC version of the game is technically the best, it also faces the stiffest direct competition, because to many PC shooter fans the game may come off as old hat. After all, aside from the Star Wars universe, Battlefront doesn't deliver anything PC players haven't seen before, even though it's a solid game in its own right. The console versions of the game--especially the Xbox version--might seem more fresh and appealing to their respective audiences, who don't have as many choices in online team-based shooters."

[QUOTE="Harden_hawk"]

[QUOTE="GarchomPro"]:|.....:lol:.....:| hes serious.....:lol:

You really shouldnt try and make your opinion sound like fact
GarchomPro

And you're the one to talk? You like Killzone. :?

Sorry if I was being gamesist.

lol, shut up. There are no higher pc standards, thats just a silly myth. Unreal Tournament also got a higher review score that year. So now are you going to say that Unreal Tournament games have lower standards than other pc shooters?kevy619

[QUOTE="dracula_16"][QUOTE="Drizzt13"][QUOTE="dracula_16"]

[QUOTE="GarchomPro"]Its quite annoying when people try and present an opinionated arguement as fact. Its your opinion thats Halo is better then all Pc games :roll: no matter how dumb it sounds. But its not fact. I can just as easily say CS 1.6 >>>>>>>> Halo 3horrowhip

But the thing is... I backed up my claims with history. No PC game has scored a 9.7 like Halo: CE.

Because of different standards. Tell me what was a good shooter for the Xbox before Halo came out? Exactly nothing. Halo is a great shooter for the consoles, but its not better than all PC shooters. Also if scores is your only argument than thats just sad.

The reason why there wasn't a good game on the Xbox before Halo is because it was a launch game.

fine name 4 good shooters on consoles before Halo... You can't even do that.... How sad.

Now before you all go jumping down my throat let me explain. The first Halo was widely accepted to be just as good as Half Life.

dracula_16

What an excellent openeing. Say don't jump down my throat and then say its widely accepted to be just as good as Half Life. Oh the irony :lol:

I love Halo 3 and I'm gonna play it tonight. It is the best console FPS ever created. But come on be real.

[QUOTE="Drizzt13"][QUOTE="dracula_16"]

[QUOTE="GarchomPro"]Its quite annoying when people try and present an opinionated arguement as fact. Its your opinion thats Halo is better then all Pc games :roll: no matter how dumb it sounds. But its not fact. I can just as easily say CS 1.6 >>>>>>>> Halo 3dracula_16

But the thing is... I backed up my claims with history. No PC game has scored a 9.7 like Halo: CE.

Because of different standards. Tell me what was a good shooter for the Xbox before Halo came out? Exactly nothing. Halo is a great shooter for the consoles, but its not better than all PC shooters. Also if scores is your only argument than thats just sad.

The reason why there wasn't a good game on the Xbox before Halo is because it was a launch game.

Doesn't change my argument. The reason it scored so high was because there were no great shooters for it so there was no comparison. So the 9.7 for Halo doesn't mean it would be the same on the PC. Also if we are going by scores why is everyone not playing THPS3. It got a 10 right? Why are we playing games that are so inferior to it.

omg the hermits are all over this on, I better get out, your on your own tc, although I agree with you ;Pamorbis1001

No need to get worried, my friend. I do not fear people who disagree with me- that is silly.

[QUOTE="dracula_16"]

Now before you all go jumping down my throat let me explain. The first Halo was widely accepted to be just as good as Half Life. (Even GS said it in a video review) Halo 2 was easily one of the best mutiplayer games ever when it came out, and Halo 3 surpass both those games in all ways. The reason why the Halo series is hated on so much is quite simple actually, it's the reason why emo music is hated on so much these days: because of popularity.

And the reason why Halo games are so popular is because of the quality. This has led to countless elitists who bash Halo games whenever possible because it's not a 10 year old game on the PC. The reality is that all Halo games have done a lot for console shooters.

And before someone brings up really old games, keep in mind that those games might have beengreat for their time but they are out dated in ever way possible compared to Halo 3.

Discuss :). Let's try and keep this as civil as possible.

bonethug1213

1. No

2. Bingo. It's done alot for CONSOLE shooters

He was right on both. Honestly, pc gamers are blinded by their dislike for things non keyboard + mouse in my eyes.

its true to an extent. Halo 3 is just as good as any pc shooter ive ever played. One big reason hermits hate on Halo 3, they dont like gamepads.kevy619

There are some things about halo 3 I don't like

1. No Kbam

2. No way to turn off the auto aim in mp matches

3. No scope glitch caused by auto aim gives a head shot kill

4. Hit boxes need worki get headshots even if I aim a little to the left or right of the head might be the auto aim ??

I don't know if these things will be addressed in a update??

Halo 3 is a good game nobody can say diffrent but it's not on pc fps level even the crysis beta's gameplay is better imo. I know many console gamers have not played pc games but I play both andhalo 3 still has not matched DE,HL2,SS2 old pc games from years ago.

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/halo2/index.html?tag=result;title;0

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/halo2/index.html?tag=result;title;1

Really though, have you ever even played a PC FPS? Becuase Gamespot has, and look how they feel about it.

[QUOTE="kevy619"]

lol, shut up. There are no higher pc standards, thats just a silly myth. Unreal Tournament also got a higher review score that year. So now are you going to say that Unreal Tournament games have lower standards than other pc shooters?

CaseyWegner

half-life 2 beat halo 2 for shooter of the year despite scoring lower.

the pc version of star wars battlefront got the "best" tag despite scoring lower than the xbox version. why is that?

"Ironically, though the PC version of the game is technically the best, it also faces the stiffest direct competition, because to many PC shooter fans the game may come off as old hat. After all, aside from the Star Wars universe, Battlefront doesn't deliver anything PC players haven't seen before, even though it's a solid game in its own right. The console versions of the game--especially the Xbox version--might seem more fresh and appealing to their respective audiences, who don't have as many choices in online team-based shooters."

once again Casey owned the thread... Thank you Casey. Don't ban me for anything I said in this thread? I deleted the post that I made that was against ToS and the other stuff I said was not that bad, just a bit heated... Don't ban me...

He was right on both. Honestly, pc gamers are blinded by their dislike for things non keyboard + mouse in my eyes.kevy619

[QUOTE="dracula_16"]

Now before you all go jumping down my throat let me explain. The first Halo was widely accepted to be just as good as Half Life.

Blackbond

What an excellent openeing. Say don't jump down my throat and then say its widely accepted to be just as good as Half Life. Oh the irony :lol:

I love Halo 3 and I'm gonna play it tonight. It is the best console FPS ever created. But come on be real.

Well I just meant that I would appreciate it if they would keep it civil like I stated in the last line. I for one have learned not to lose my temper as I have just come back from a 5 day suspension.

[QUOTE="dracula_16"][QUOTE="Drizzt13"][QUOTE="dracula_16"]

[QUOTE="GarchomPro"]Its quite annoying when people try and present an opinionated arguement as fact. Its your opinion thats Halo is better then all Pc games :roll: no matter how dumb it sounds. But its not fact. I can just as easily say CS 1.6 >>>>>>>> Halo 3Drizzt13

But the thing is... I backed up my claims with history. No PC game has scored a 9.7 like Halo: CE.

Because of different standards. Tell me what was a good shooter for the Xbox before Halo came out? Exactly nothing. Halo is a great shooter for the consoles, but its not better than all PC shooters. Also if scores is your only argument than thats just sad.

The reason why there wasn't a good game on the Xbox before Halo is because it was a launch game.

Doesn't change my argument. The reason it scored so high was because there were no great shooters for it so there was no comparison. So the 9.7 for Halo doesn't mean it would be the same on the PC. Also if we are going by scores why is everyone not playing THPS3. It got a 10 right? Why are we playing games that are so inferior to it.

I agree alot of lemmings assume games are rated cross-platforms.

[QUOTE="dracula_16"][QUOTE="Drizzt13"][QUOTE="dracula_16"]

[QUOTE="GarchomPro"]Its quite annoying when people try and present an opinionated arguement as fact. Its your opinion thats Halo is better then all Pc games :roll: no matter how dumb it sounds. But its not fact. I can just as easily say CS 1.6 >>>>>>>> Halo 3horrowhip

But the thing is... I backed up my claims with history. No PC game has scored a 9.7 like Halo: CE.

Because of different standards. Tell me what was a good shooter for the Xbox before Halo came out? Exactly nothing. Halo is a great shooter for the consoles, but its not better than all PC shooters. Also if scores is your only argument than thats just sad.

The reason why there wasn't a good game on the Xbox before Halo is because it was a launch game.

fine name 4 good shooters on consoles before Halo... You can't even do that.... How sad.

Golden EYe, Perfect dark, UE,Quake,HL,TS,red faction. Probably a couple more than that. Do soe research and i'm sure you'll find alot more.

once again, it's people like this, who make rediculous exaggerated claims, that make the whole halo playing community look bad (that and annoying ten year olds online)

please stop

Im suprised this hasnt gotten a lock, since its just a bad flaimbait with no evidence or anything other then opinion backing it upGarchomPro

That is absurd. I have several facts that I could lean on ifI wanted to, such as no PC game scoring over 9.7 which was Halo's score.

I think you are just reluctant to accept my unbiased points as more than just flamebait.

Gamespot's Halo 2 PC review:

The PC has more than its fair share of amazing shooters that blow Halo 2 away in every possible way, making this one best suited for Halo fans that want an easy way to play custom maps.Gamespot

Think it's really that different for Halo 3?

once again, it's people like this, who make rediculous exaggerated claims, that make the whole halo playing community look bad (that and annoying ten year olds online)

please stop

WithoutGraceXII

I don't speak for all of Halo's community, I only speak for people who have done their research like me.

[QUOTE="kevy619"]

lol, shut up. There are no higher pc standards, thats just a silly myth. Unreal Tournament also got a higher review score that year. So now are you going to say that Unreal Tournament games have lower standards than other pc shooters?

CaseyWegner

half-life 2 beat halo 2 for shooter of the year despite scoring lower.

the pc version of star wars battlefront got the "best" tag despite scoring lower than the xbox version. why is that?

"Ironically, though the PC version of the game is technically the best, it also faces the stiffest direct competition, because to many PC shooter fans the game may come off as old hat. After all, aside from the Star Wars universe, Battlefront doesn't deliver anything PC players haven't seen before, even though it's a solid game in its own right. The console versions of the game--especially the Xbox version--might seem more fresh and appealing to their respective audiences, who don't have as many choices in online team-based shooters."

lol you actually believe that, heck because of mods and teh suprior control scheme of the pc. please, I have owned many in cs:s source with my 360 controller, and as you would kno it controllers even worse when it isnt optimized for controllers. so there goes the myth for pc having superior controlers (it is better but not that amazing like some would suppose). as for mods :lol: I havet played a mod that captured my attention for a sec, as for graphx pc graphx is worth it, I mean 600 dollars for only better tectures than a multiplat console games, that aint worth it. if you ask me gamespot reviews is a bunch of hoopla that goes running with wat long time myth as garbage. pc gaming might be great but it isnt wat you hermits make it cracked out to be, I used to be a pc gamer until steep pricing and lack of action game were there so I came over to console, and thank god I did pc gaming is slipping and I guess when KB/M comes standard in console and the graphx difference is unseen, you hermits are gonna find the simplest thing to warrant pc gamming being superior.

(forget my last post, I had to post this, pc gaming superiority isn't superior at all and console gamers arent missing out on any thing but WOW which only a pc gamer would play)

once again, it's people like this, who make rediculous exaggerated claims, that make the whole halo playing community look bad (that and annoying ten year olds online)

please stop

WithoutGraceXII

Agreed, Halo 3 is by no means bad. Provided personally a very strong campaign and multiplayer to the Halo audiences but Halo fanboys (and the people that play live in Halo) are just jerks thinking that Halo is the best game ever created and everything else sucks.

Maybe Halo is the best for you Halo fans but it definitelyisnt in my eyes.

[QUOTE="WithoutGraceXII"]

once again, it's people like this, who make rediculous exaggerated claims, that make the whole halo playing community look bad (that and annoying ten year olds online)

please stop

dracula_16

I don't speak for all of Halo's community, I only speak for people who have done their research like me.

so you've played every single pc shooter....ever?

[QUOTE="GarchomPro"]Im suprised this hasnt gotten a lock, since its just a bad flaimbait with no evidence or anything other then opinion backing it updracula_16

That is absurd. I have several facts that I could lean on ifI wanted to, such as no PC game scoring over 9.7 which was Halo's score.

I think you are just reluctant to accept my unbiased points as more than just flamebait.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="kevy619"]

lol, shut up. There are no higher pc standards, thats just a silly myth. Unreal Tournament also got a higher review score that year. So now are you going to say that Unreal Tournament games have lower standards than other pc shooters?

amorbis1001

half-life 2 beat halo 2 for shooter of the year despite scoring lower.

the pc version of star wars battlefront got the "best" tag despite scoring lower than the xbox version. why is that?

"Ironically, though the PC version of the game is technically the best, it also faces the stiffest direct competition, because to many PC shooter fans the game may come off as old hat. After all, aside from the Star Wars universe, Battlefront doesn't deliver anything PC players haven't seen before, even though it's a solid game in its own right. The console versions of the game--especially the Xbox version--might seem more fresh and appealing to their respective audiences, who don't have as many choices in online team-based shooters."

lol you actually believe that, heck because of mods and teh suprior control scheme of the pc. please, I have owned many in cs:s source with my 360 controller, and as you would kno it controllers even worse when it isnt optimized for controllers. so there goes the myth for pc having superior controlers (it is better but not that amazing like some would suppose). as for mods :lol: I havet played a mod that captured my attention for a sec, as for graphx pc graphx is worth it, I mean 600 dollars for only better tectures than a multiplat console games, that aint worth it. if you ask me gamespot reviews is a bunch of hoopla that goes running with wat long time myth as garbage. pc gaming might be great but it isnt wat you hermits make it cracked out to be, I used to be a pc gamer until steep pricing and lack of action game were there so I came over to console, and thank god I did pc gaming is slipping and I guess when KB/M comes standard in console and the graphx difference is unseen, you hermits are gonna find the simplest thing to warrant pc gamming being superior.

(forget my last post, I had to post this, pc gaming superiority isn't superior at all and console gamers arent missing out on any thing but WOW which only a pc gamer would play)

um, what did any of what you just said have to do with my post? :?

You just compared Halo to emo music :|Locke562

You are mis-understanding I'm afraid. It was just an analogy. The difference is that Halo 3 is good while emo music is not.

forget my last post, I had to post this, pc gaming superiority isn't superior at all and console gamers arent missing out on any thing but WOW which only a pc gamer would plaamorbis1001

[QUOTE="dracula_16"]

[QUOTE="GarchomPro"]Im suprised this hasnt gotten a lock, since its just a bad flaimbait with no evidence or anything other then opinion backing it upEzgam3r

That is absurd. I have several facts that I could lean on ifI wanted to, such as no PC game scoring over 9.7 which was Halo's score.

I think you are just reluctant to accept my unbiased points as more than just flamebait.

Well it is in terms of Sports games. THPS3's 'revert' trick was revolutionary for it's time.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="kevy619"]

lol, shut up. There are no higher pc standards, thats just a silly myth. Unreal Tournament also got a higher review score that year. So now are you going to say that Unreal Tournament games have lower standards than other pc shooters?

amorbis1001

half-life 2 beat halo 2 for shooter of the year despite scoring lower.

the pc version of star wars battlefront got the "best" tag despite scoring lower than the xbox version. why is that?

"Ironically, though the PC version of the game is technically the best, it also faces the stiffest direct competition, because to many PC shooter fans the game may come off as old hat. After all, aside from the Star Wars universe, Battlefront doesn't deliver anything PC players haven't seen before, even though it's a solid game in its own right. The console versions of the game--especially the Xbox version--might seem more fresh and appealing to their respective audiences, who don't have as many choices in online team-based shooters."

lol you actually believe that, heck because of mods and teh suprior control scheme of the pc. please, I have owned many in cs:s source with my 360 controller, and as you would kno it controllers even worse when it isnt optimized for controllers. so there goes the myth for pc having superior controlers (it is better but not that amazing like some would suppose). as for mods :lol: I havet played a mod that captured my attention for a sec, as for graphx pc graphx is worth it, I mean 600 dollars for only better tectures than a multiplat console games, that aint worth it. if you ask me gamespot reviews is a bunch of hoopla that goes running with wat long time myth as garbage. pc gaming might be great but it isnt wat you hermits make it cracked out to be, I used to be a pc gamer until steep pricing and lack of action game were there so I came over to console, and thank god I did pc gaming is slipping and I guess when KB/M comes standard in console and the graphx difference is unseen, you hermits are gonna find the simplest thing to warrant pc gamming being superior.

(forget my last post, I had to post this, pc gaming superiority isn't superior at all and console gamers arent missing out on any thing but WOW which only a pc gamer would play)

1) Well then I guess Halo does doesn't deserve a 9.7.

2) That is seriously the most absurd thing I have heard this year.

[QUOTE="amorbis1001"]forget my last post, I had to post this, pc gaming superiority isn't superior at all and console gamers arent missing out on any thing but WOW which only a pc gamer would plaVandalvideo

oooh exclusive withh trools and goblins, or exclusives that seemingly finding their way to consoles more and more each generation.

Casey lock this please..... This thread has failed majorly and is a terrible flamebait that the TC obviously did just to create an arguement.... He didn't even provide any tangible evidence...horrowhip

So this thread should be locked because I present points that clash with your opinions? :lol: That is like someone opposing gay marriage because one person think's it 'gross'. That is outlandish I hope you know.

[QUOTE="GarchomPro"]Im suprised this hasnt gotten a lock, since its just a bad flaimbait with no evidence or anything other then opinion backing it updracula_16

That is absurd. I have several facts that I could lean on ifI wanted to, such as no PC game scoring over 9.7 which was Halo's score.

I think you are just reluctant to accept my unbiased points as more than just flamebait.

lol you actually believe that, heck because of mods and teh suprior control scheme of the pc. please, I have owned many in cs:s source with my 360 controller, and as you would kno it controllers even worse when it isnt optimized for controllers. so there goes the myth for pc having superior controlers (it is better but not that amazing like some would suppose). as for mods :lol: I havet played a mod that captured my attention for a sec, as for graphx pc graphx is worth it, I mean 600 dollars for only better tectures than a multiplat console games, that aint worth it. if you ask me gamespot reviews is a bunch of hoopla that goes running with wat long time myth as garbage. pc gaming might be great but it isnt wat you hermits make it cracked out to be, I used to be a pc gamer until steep pricing and lack of action game were there so I came over to console, and thank god I did pc gaming is slipping and I guess when KB/M comes standard in console and the graphx difference is unseen, you hermits are gonna find the simplest thing to warrant pc gamming being superior.

(forget my last post, I had to post this, pc gaming superiority isn't superior at all and console gamers arent missing out on any thing but WOW which only a pc gamer would play)

amorbis1001

You proved nothing there, you provided a personal experience, likely exaggerated, and claimed it to be definative evidence.:roll:

Anyway, you haven't ever played a good mod because you haven't ever played a mod. :|

For graphics, apparently you haven't seen this, "Crysis" thing, it's a pretty big deal.

As for the most important part, the games, please refer to this thread: http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25112093

No really, look at the link.

[QUOTE="horrowhip"]Casey lock this please..... This thread has failed majorly and is a terrible flamebait that the TC obviously did just to create an arguement.... He didn't even provide any tangible evidence...dracula_16

So this thread should be locked because I present points that clash with your opinions? :lol: That is like someone opposing gay marriage because one person think's it 'gross'. That is outlandish I hope you know.

No this should be locked because its a freaking flamebait. You should also be banned for it...

um, what did any of what you just said have to do with my post? :?

CaseyWegner

It has to do with everything Casey, EVERYTHING.

This is a joke thread, Deus Ex is better than halo. Halo on PC wasn't even AAA, console shooter have a long way to go before even being rated on the same level.Adrian_Cloud

This is a joke thread, Deus Ex is better than halo. Halo on PC wasn't even AAA, console shooter have a long way to go before even being rated on the same level.Adrian_Cloud

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/halo/index.html?tag=result;title;2

Your wrong..

However, Halo 3is a great game despite all the hate its recieved.

I would say its all based on preference between console and PC FPS. Personally, I don't want the aim assist, but others need it.

To my knowledge, its not optional to change it in most games. Socom let you choose whether you wanted it on or off (default was off)