Halo 3: Improvements you didn't see.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] I haven't created a double standard quite yet. I don't feel the need to comment, because I've made my stance abudantly clear. Heavily derivative means that it was derived from numerous science fiction IPs, which it has. The fact that Halo was heavily influenced by numerous science fiction IPs makes it heavily derivative. Thats what we call a tautology Einstein, a self-substantiating statement. Its a fact. Ringworld is a prime example that they borrow from the IPs they are heavily influenced by.Ninja-Vox

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Of course, these things influence us. After all, we're nerds. The specific accusation that we swiped the idea of a ring-shaped planet wholesale is not accurate. The idea of a Ringworld, first posited in sci-fi by Larry Niven in his brilliant novel of the same name, is actually a variation of a Dyson Sphere, a fantastically impossible object described by the 20 th century physicist, Freeman Dyson. You can read about that here: Dyson Spheres!

Ring-shaped artificial worlds have also been used by Iain M. Banks and others because they are cool. And that's why we used one. Because it's cool and therefore the type of thing a Forerunner civilization would build."

:roll:

Did you even read the article you're basing your arguement off? Dont you think your whole arguementis annihilated by the fact that half of the influences they list were created AFTER Halo was released?

Actually I was not talking to you to begin with. I was talking to someone else you just barged on in like all the other rabid resolute Halo fanboys out there always do when you say that you were not entertained by the story. The person that I was talking to knew that I was joking, but you did not. Your just as bad as any other fanboy out there. You called me a hater and all kinds of crap and I simply informed you that I found Halo entertaining, but not for its story. The fact that you were annoyed by my lack of being entertained by Halo's story further reinforces my statement that you are a fanboy. smokeydabear076

Please see thread about the PS3 being an awesome system, and its a shame people cant appreciate it because of all the hate; created by me.

Please see thread about how Microsoft build quality sucks; created by me.

Please see thread about how Bungie could do a lot more in terms of how they show off halo; again, me.

Please see my numerous reviews where i say key microsoft games suck.

Seriously; you cannot admit to deliberately trying to annoy somebody and then get all upset when they say things back to you.

I'll repost here just in case no one looks back:

It is obvious that you are fighting a losing battle. Best to admit to mistakes you have made.

Firstly, I made a post about Half Life and the cliches it has used. You have chosen to ignore that.

Secondly, I asked if it is right to say Star Wars and Half Life are both influenced and heavily derivative of other sources, just like your Halo statement, and you conveniently told me "I do not want to digress".

Thirdly, I posted an article on IGN about Literature and Myth. Every video game you have played has been heavily derived from other sources. And for your benefit, other game designers have spoken out.You have not replied to that, and it makes one thing clear.

Every author, comic book writer,video game designer, and script writer like myself, know that everything is influenced by its predecessors. From Lord of the Rings to Halo, they're all influenced. What makes stories these days stand out is if they are told with a sense of "uniqueness" and character, and judging from Halo, it has triumphed without falling into obscurity.

Give it up mate, you've lost. You're not fooling anyone.

FrozenLiquid

[QUOTE="jujutheking"]

So what about K???It's orginal

FrozenLiquid

Uhm, a colony of humans who've gone to another planet, become mutated, and have a hatred for humanity is not original.

However, Killzone is told in a unique and good way. That's why, story wise, it's pretty darn good.

What other story has that???Has the guys gotten mutated and wants to attack there planet they use to live in??

Reread those exerts four times. Its clear that they borrowed the idea of a Ringworld full stock and barrel. They can talk about Dyson Spheres all they want, but a Ringworld is unique in conception. they borrowed that idea fll stock and barrel. Halo is heavily derivative. Yaaaay tautologies.Vandalvideo

You're completely missing the point here. The fact is that the Halo universe is unique. They are inspired by lots of things, as the article is intended to show you. The idea of the Ringworld was the basis on which halo was derived; i told you that about half an hour ago.

The ringworld in halo is completely different however, as are its origins, its role in the storyline and the universe around it. A universe which is completely unique.

Enter my point about you not knowing what you're talking about and contradicting yourself; you think Star Wars isn't derivative, yet the entire storyline regarding Luke is derived from a single book. More than Halo can be accused of being derived from anything.

EVERY STORY is influenced by others. Simple. Halo is no more derivative than any other universe. Simple. As. That.

What other story has that???Has the guys gotten mutated and wants to attack there planet they use to live in??jujutheking

I'm not sure, but it's a pretty common archetype. It's probably somewhere in the Star Wars mythos.

You can read stories people have written on the internet that have the same things.

Oh, Lord of the Rings comes to mind. Not exactly like Killzone, but the Men and Elves are turned into Orcs I believe and are used to take over Middle Earth.

Same concept, just different setting.

Look, being unoriginal doesn't mean it sucks.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Reread those exerts four times. Its clear that they borrowed the idea of a Ringworld full stock and barrel. They can talk about Dyson Spheres all they want, but a Ringworld is unique in conception. they borrowed that idea fll stock and barrel. Halo is heavily derivative. Yaaaay tautologies.Ninja-Vox

You're completely missing the point here. The fact is that the Halo universe is unique. They are inspired by lots of things, as the article is intended to show you. The idea of the Ringworld was the basis on which halo was derived; i told you that about half an hour ago.

The ringworld in halo is completely different however, as are its origins, its role in the storyline and the universe around it. A universe which is completely unique.

Enter my point about you not knowing what you're talking about and contradicting yourself; you think Star Wars isn't derivative, yet the entire storyline regarding Luke is derived from a single book. More than Halo can be accused of being derived from anything.

EVERY STORY is influenced by others. Simple. Halo is no more derivative than any other universe. Simple. As. That.

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]Actually I was not talking to you to begin with. I was talking to someone else you just barged on in like all the other rabid resolute Halo fanboys out there always do when you say that you were not entertained by the story. The person that I was talking to knew that I was joking, but you did not. Your just as bad as any other fanboy out there. You called me a hater and all kinds of crap and I simply informed you that I found Halo entertaining, but not for its story. The fact that you were annoyed by my lack of being entertained by Halo's story further reinforces my statement that you are a fanboy. Ninja-Vox

Please see thread about the PS3 being an awesome system, and its a shame people cant appreciate it because of all the hate; created by me.

Please see thread about how Microsoft build quality sucks; created by me.

Please see thread about how Bungie could do a lot more in terms of how they show off halo; again, me.

Please see my numerous reviews where i say key microsoft games suck.

Seriously; you cannot admit to deliberately trying to annoy somebody and then get all upset when they say things back to you.

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]Actually I was not talking to you to begin with. I was talking to someone else you just barged on in like all the other rabid resolute Halo fanboys out there always do when you say that you were not entertained by the story. The person that I was talking to knew that I was joking, but you did not. Your just as bad as any other fanboy out there. You called me a hater and all kinds of crap and I simply informed you that I found Halo entertaining, but not for its story. The fact that you were annoyed by my lack of being entertained by Halo's story further reinforces my statement that you are a fanboy. Ninja-Vox

Please see thread about the PS3 being an awesome system, and its a shame people cant appreciate it because of all the hate; created by me.

Please see thread about how Microsoft build quality sucks; created by me.

Please see thread about how Bungie could do a lot more in terms of how they show off halo; again, me.

Please see my numerous reviews where i say key microsoft games suck.

Seriously; you cannot admit to deliberately trying to annoy somebody and then get all upset when they say things back to you.

You didnt annoy me. :shock:

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

I'll repost here just in case no one looks back:

It is obvious that you are fighting a losing battle. Best to admit to mistakes you have made.

Firstly, I made a post about Half Life and the cliches it has used. You have chosen to ignore that.

Secondly, I asked if it is right to say Star Wars and Half Life are both influenced and heavily derivative of other sources, just like your Halo statement, and you conveniently told me "I do not want to digress".

Thirdly, I posted an article on IGN about Literature and Myth. Every video game you have played has been heavily derived from other sources. And for your benefit, other game designers have spoken out.You have not replied to that, and it makes one thing clear.

Every author, comic book writer,video game designer, and script writer like myself, know that everything is influenced by its predecessors. From Lord of the Rings to Halo, they're all influenced. What makes stories these days stand out is if they are told with a sense of "uniqueness" and character, and judging from Halo, it has triumphed without falling into obscurity.

Give it up mate, you've lost. You're not fooling anyone.

Vandalvideo

Ugh.

You're the reason why people say it's better to own up than to stay stubborn.

Yes, your statements are correct. But it is so damn obvious you're singling out Halo just for your benefit whilst making sure to defend the IPs that you enjoy.

And see, once again, you've failed to address the other part of my post. Man, I thought you were one of the better people here on SW. Am I the only one that ever admits to ignorance when its due?

Neverwinter Nights is just as unoriginal and heavily derived as Halo. Do you agree?

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="jujutheking"]

So what about K???It's orginal

jujutheking

Uhm, a colony of humans who've gone to another planet, become mutated, and have a hatred for humanity is not original.

However, Killzone is told in a unique and good way. That's why, story wise, it's pretty darn good.

What other story has that???Has the guys gotten mutated and wants to attack there planet they use to live in??

Give what up? My statements are technically correct.Vandalvideo

No, he's completely correct in saying you're fighting a losing battle. Face it, you charged in with the stuff you've said in about a billion threads for months now and i've always just shrugged it off. I got sick of hearing you say the same thing over and over again and challenged it, and you haven't been able to back up what you said at all. You claimed you didn't like Halo's story because you're a big literary buff and you could see that it's heavily derivative.

The only thing you can source to back up this point however, is the ringworld, which bungie freely says is the concept on which the whole game was inspired. Like any other storyline. The article was simply an interview with bungie employees asking what their favourite influences and sci-fi IPs are, hence the number of things they talk about which were made AFTER Halo. It's not a list of things they borrow from in the slightest. You got it wrong.

Halo IS derivative in some forms; the idea of the ringworld being the key thing it was inspired by. But the universe in Halo is unique, and the storyline is no more derivative than anything else like Star Wars or Half Life; two IPs you seem to think aren't derivative at all, despite the fact that Lucas cites a single book as the influence behind the entire story arc of Luke, and the fact that Half-Life was derived from the original Doom.

Halo is no more derivative than anything else. To say the storyline is completely derivative is just false.

Surely, you're just reasonable and stop this rediculous pattern of responding with a rebuttal even when there isn't one, you can see that what i'm saying is correct. It isn't any more derivative that anything else.

IMHO the only thing exciting about Halo 3 is that the game apparently saves the video of your entire gameplay SP/MP. Now that's something to get excited about.froidnite

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Give what up? My statements are technically correct.Ninja-Vox

No, he's completely correct in saying you're fighting a losing battle. Face it, you charged in with the stuff you've said in about a billion threads for months now and i've always just shrugged it off. I got sick of hearing you say the same thing over and over again and challenged it, and you haven't been able to back up what you said at all. You claimed you didn't like Halo's story because you're a big literary buff and you could see that it's heavily derivative.

The only thing you can source to back up this point however, is the ringworld, which bungie freely says is the concept on which the whole game was inspired. Like any other storyline. The article was simply an interview with bungie employees asking what their favourite influences and sci-fi IPs are, hence the number of things they talk about which were made AFTER Halo. It's not a list of things they borrow from in the slightest. You got it wrong.

Halo IS derivative in some forms; the idea of the ringworld being the key thing it was inspired by. But the universe in Halo is unique, and the storyline is no more derivative than anything else like Star Wars or Half Life; two IPs you seem to think aren't derivative at all, despite the fact that Lucas cites a single book as the influence behind the entire story arc of Luke, and the fact that Half-Life was derived from the original Doom.

Halo is no more derivative than anything else. To say the storyline is completely derivative is just false.

Surely, you're just reasonable and stop this rediculous pattern of responding with a rebuttal even when there isn't one, you can see that what i'm saying is correct. It isn't any more derivative that anything else.

[QUOTE="jujutheking"]What other story has that???Has the guys gotten mutated and wants to attack there planet they use to live in??FrozenLiquid

I'm not sure, but it's a pretty common archetype. It's probably somewhere in the Star Wars mythos.

You can read stories people have written on the internet that have the same things.

Oh, Lord of the Rings comes to mind. Not exactly like Killzone, but the Men and Elves are turned into Orcs I believe and are used to take over Middle Earth.

Same concept, just different setting.

Look, being unoriginal doesn't mean it sucks.

LODR What?????They were turned into orcs not mutated.They also was on a different planet.The mutation harmed them, but also made them stronger.

Man, I thought you were one of the better people here on SW. Am I the only one that ever admits to ignorance when its due?

FrozenLiquid

I totally agree. He used to seem so reasonable.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="jujutheking"]What other story has that???Has the guys gotten mutated and wants to attack there planet they use to live in??jujutheking

I'm not sure, but it's a pretty common archetype. It's probably somewhere in the Star Wars mythos.

You can read stories people have written on the internet that have the same things.

Oh, Lord of the Rings comes to mind. Not exactly like Killzone, but the Men and Elves are turned into Orcs I believe and are used to take over Middle Earth.

Same concept, just different setting.

Look, being unoriginal doesn't mean it sucks.

LODR What?????They were turned into orcs not mutated.They also was on a different planet.The mutation harmed them, but also made them stronger.

LODR What?????They were turned into orcs not mutated.They also was on a different planet.The mutation harmed them, but also made them stronger.

jujutheking

Turned/mutated, the outcome is the same thing. Different planet? Different part of Middle Earth.

Orcs are grotesque beings, and they're stronger than Men and Elves.

No, my statements are technically correct. Halo is heavily derivative of over a dozen different science fiction IPs and is unoriginal. These statemetns are entirely correct.Vandalvideo

You made no attempt to respond to my post at all. I can only assume you're simply trolling now to annoy those who've taken apart your arguement. I used to think you were one of the better people on system wars but that opinion has changed.

You got it wrong. It's clear you got it wrong. I thought you were being stubborn but i think you're just trolling now. You know you're wrong and you're just refusing to say so to annoy others.

And through all of these flames, nobody cares that I think I found out what the 4th grenade type is :cry:MegaPigeon

And through all of these flames, nobody cares that I think I found out what the 4th grenade type is :cry:MegaPigeon

How did you find out? :) And what is it, obviously. :P

And through all of these flames, nobody cares that I think I found out what the 4th grenade type is :cry:MegaPigeon

Sorry it's just that someone is showing his true colours and we're trying to weed something out of him.

What do you think the fourth grenade type is?

Lol Vandal, when are you going to stop this feeble attempt to bring down the Halo story. For months now it' been the same boring, repetitive, craptacular dribble that if cut-and-pasted could be applied to any sci-fi entity made after 1960.

You know it.

I know it.

Everyone knows it.

I applaud your refusal to compromise but it's costing you tons of credibility. You know tons about computer diagnostics both hardware and software related but 90% of everything else you say, in particular when related to Halo, simply cannot be taken seriously. You simply are never able to prove that all these stigmas you place on Halos' mantle cannot also be placed on all present sci-fi properties as an art form.

By all means continue this laughable masquerade of wordplay and twisted hypothesis but in the end, you are simply grasping for straws, and not finding any.

It's over, and it should have been put to rest today. That way, it doesn't have to linger on.

Just wow.......

Really, I thought you Vandal were one of the better forumites here. This just basically opened up a little more into how....ermm.... ordinary, you really are.

It's over, and it should have been put to rest today. That way, it doesn't have to linger on.

Just wow.......

Really, I thought you Vandal were one of the better forumites here. This just basically opened up a little more into how....ermm.... ordinary, you really are.

FrozenLiquid

It's over, and it should have been put to rest today. That way, it doesn't have to linger on.

Just wow.......

Really, I thought you Vandal were one of the better forumites here. This just basically opened up a little more into how....ermm.... ordinary, you really are.

FrozenLiquid

I think towards the end he realised he'd ran out of material, and it became apparent that he had got it wrong, so he just kept going like a lot of people do on system wars, mostly to annoy those they're arguing with. It becamse obvious when he simply quoted each reply and responded with the same lin over and over again that he was just trying to annoy people by refusing to acknowledge any of their posts.

Next time you bring this up he'll say "i was just kidding...." like all the fanboys do.

For now though, let this die. It's gone on long enough.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

It's over, and it should have been put to rest today. That way, it doesn't have to linger on.

Just wow.......

Really, I thought you Vandal were one of the better forumites here. This just basically opened up a little more into how....ermm.... ordinary, you really are.

smokeydabear076

So tell me, why has Vandal left mid argument (Someone usually says they require to go elsewhere), and why has he avoided some of my posts?

Honestly, no offence Ninja Vox, but there are some things I've seen that I don't believe are correct concerning other sci fi franchises, but yeah.....

Just being objective here :P.

So if we are not right smokey, how can you wrong us?

It's over, and it should have been put to rest today. That way, it doesn't have to linger on.

Just wow.......

Really, I thought you Vandal were one of the better forumites here. This just basically opened up a little more into how....ermm.... ordinary, you really are.

FrozenLiquid

I think towards the end he realised he'd ran out of material, and it became apparent that he had got it wrong, so he just kept going like a lot of people do on system wars, mostly to annoy those they're arguing with. It becamse obvious when he simply quoted each reply and responded with the same lin over and over again that he was just trying to annoy people by refusing to acknowledge any of their posts.

Next time you bring this up he'll say "i was just kidding...." like all the fanboys do.

For now though, let this die. It's gone on long enough.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

It's over, and it should have been put to rest today. That way, it doesn't have to linger on.

Just wow.......

Really, I thought you Vandal were one of the better forumites here. This just basically opened up a little more into how....ermm.... ordinary, you really are.

smokeydabear076

Um I didn't want to say anythign to Ninja Vox, but there were some things I disagreed on him with. But then, as debates go, Vandal would have attacked that weak spot. So I just kept my side of the argument going. He didn't though.

And we're wrong, smokey, can you right us, please?

Lol Vandal, when are you going to stop this feeble attempt to bring down the Halo story. For months now it' been the same boring, repetitive, craptacular dribble that if cut-and-pasted could be applied to any sci-fi entity made after 1960.

You know it.

I know it.

Everyone knows it.

I applaud your refusal to compromise but it's costing you tons of credibility. You know tons about computer diagnostics both hardware and software related but 90% of everything else you say, in particular when related to Halo, simply cannot be taken seriously. You simply are never ale to prove that all these stigmas you place on Halos mantle cannotalo be placed on all present sci-fi properties as an art form.

By all means continue this laughable masquerade of wordplay andtwisted hypothesis but in the end, you are simply grasping for straws, and not finding any.

Spartan070

[QUOTE="MegaPigeon"]And through all of these flames, nobody cares that I think I found out what the 4th grenade type is :cry:FrozenLiquid

Sorry it's just that someone is showing his true colours and we're trying to weed something out of him.

What do you think the fourth grenade type is?

[QUOTE="MegaPigeon"]And through all of these flames, nobody cares that I think I found out what the 4th grenade type is :cry:Ninja-Vox

How did you find out? :) And what is it, obviously. :P

It's either a flashbang or a white phosphorus type thingy. Similar to napalm I guess :)

When Halo fanboys unite, they are always right.;) At least in their world.smokeydabear076

When logic unites it's always right. This debocle is absurd.

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]

Lol Vandal, when are you going to stop this feeble attempt to bring down the Halo story. For months now it' been the same boring, repetitive, craptacular dribble that if cut-and-pasted could be applied to any sci-fi entity made after 1960.

You know it.

I know it.

Everyone knows it.

I applaud your refusal to compromise but it's costing you tons of credibility. You know tons about computer diagnostics both hardware and software related but 90% of everything else you say, in particular when related to Halo, simply cannot be taken seriously. You simply are never ale to prove that all these stigmas you place on Halos mantle cannotalo be placed on all present sci-fi properties as an art form.

By all means continue this laughable masquerade of wordplay andtwisted hypothesis but in the end, you are simply grasping for straws, and not finding any.

Vandalvideo

:lol:

Ninja Vox predicted this would happen.... omg....

Dude, that's the worst cop out I've seen mate.

It's like those guys on Lord of the Rings Online that harass someone and then pretend it was all RP. Or when they sexually harrass a female character they pretend to "wake up" in RP and go "Wait... what was I doing?"

Dude, the way you were arguing, it was not messing around.

Man, I've been in debates heaps. At school and everything. I've debated with everyone. I can tell who's being genuine and who's fooling around.

The pattern and methods in which you were arguing with were completely genuine.

Okay, you've finally hit the low of the lows.

Man, I"ve gone through the whole night. It's 6am, I've done almost nothing on my new script, I've defended Halo's story diligently and tried to explain why I have Elisha Cuthbert the way I have in my sig.

And it's come down to this.

Jeez, what a flop.

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]

Lol Vandal, when are you going to stop this feeble attempt to bring down the Halo story. For months now it' been the same boring, repetitive, craptacular dribble that if cut-and-pasted could be applied to any sci-fi entity made after 1960.

You know it.

I know it.

Everyone knows it.

I applaud your refusal to compromise but it's costing you tons of credibility. You know tons about computer diagnostics both hardware and software related but 90% of everything else you say, in particular when related to Halo, simply cannot be taken seriously. You simply are never able to prove that all these stigmas you place on Halos mantle cannot also be placed on all present sci-fi properties as an art form.

By all means continue this laughable masquerade of wordplay and twisted hypothesis but in the end, you are simply grasping for straws, and not finding any.

Vandalvideo

Well I guess that's that.:D

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="MegaPigeon"]And through all of these flames, nobody cares that I think I found out what the 4th grenade type is :cry:MegaPigeon

Sorry it's just that someone is showing his true colours and we're trying to weed something out of him.

What do you think the fourth grenade type is?

[QUOTE="MegaPigeon"]And through all of these flames, nobody cares that I think I found out what the 4th grenade type is :cry:Ninja-Vox

How did you find out? :) And what is it, obviously. :P

It's either a flashbang or a white phosphorus type thingy. Similar to napalm I guess :)

Does it burn people?

When Halo fanboys unite, they are always right.;) At least in their world.smokeydabear076

He even admitted he was messing around. So now you look kinda silly saying we're just fanboys in our own world. :|

Also, would you like me to post about ten or fifteen posts i've made which are all about things i hate about Halo, or bungie? Because i will if you want me to, only it'd kinda make all this nonsense you keep throwing at me about being a Halo fanboy kinda silly.

I love Halo. But like anything else, if Halo 3 were to release and suck, i wouldn't blindly defend it. I'd tell you it suck. I live in the real world thanks.

You made some generic comment about Halo having a crappy story, in my response to that i refered to you as a fanboy. I already apologised for assuming you were a fanboy, and said how i wouldn't normally do that but mistook you as another sony hater. I dont know what more you want from me, so why not get rid of the chip on your shoulder and quit harrassing all of my posts with your "halo fanboy" mantra?

Man, I"ve gone through the whole night. It's 6am, I've done almost nothing on my new script, I've defended Halo's story diligently and tried to explain why I have Elisha Cuthbert the way I have in my sig.

And it's come down to this.

Jeez, what a flop.

FrozenLiquid

6am:question: Australia? If so, awesome:D

Ninja Vox predicted this would happen.... omg....Dude, that's the worst cop out I've seen mate.It's like those guys on Lord of the Rings Online that harass someone and then pretend it was all RP. Or when they sexually harrass a female character they pretend to "wake up" in RP and go "Wait... what was I doing?"Dude, the way you were arguing, it was not messing around.Man, I've been in debates heaps. At school and everything. I've debated with everyone. I can tell who's being genuine and who's fooling around.The pattern and methods in which you were arguing with were completely genuine. Okay, you've finally hit the low of the lows.Man, I"ve gone through the whole night. It's 6am, I've done almost nothing on my new script, I've defended Halo's story diligently and tried to explain why I have Elisha Cuthbert the way I have in my sig.And it's come down to this.Jeez, what a flop.FrozenLiquid

Way to ruin the fun and games, telling them what I was doing. Fine, I was just messing around. I actually like Halo and own it :o http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v495/Vandalvideo/?action=view¤t=halo2.jpgVandalvideo

No offense to you, but you weren't messing around. You were completely serious for ages until you hit that point where you were undeniably wrong and had argued yourself into a corner, and THEN you started with the deliberately ignoring posts and responding with the same thing just to annoy people. It's called trolling, and i honestly hope you get suspended for it for all the annoyance you've caused other people.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]Ninja Vox predicted this would happen.... omg....Dude, that's the worst cop out I've seen mate.It's like those guys on Lord of the Rings Online that harass someone and then pretend it was all RP. Or when they sexually harrass a female character they pretend to "wake up" in RP and go "Wait... what was I doing?"Dude, the way you were arguing, it was not messing around.Man, I've been in debates heaps. At school and everything. I've debated with everyone. I can tell who's being genuine and who's fooling around.The pattern and methods in which you were arguing with were completely genuine. Okay, you've finally hit the low of the lows.Man, I"ve gone through the whole night. It's 6am, I've done almost nothing on my new script, I've defended Halo's story diligently and tried to explain why I have Elisha Cuthbert the way I have in my sig.And it's come down to this.Jeez, what a flop.Vandalvideo

I'm going to let this one slide....

But if you did play Halo frequently, you would have added it to your list of games you own and gave it a score. I see everything but Halo.

Ah well, I'm tired. And annoyed that I didn't get much work done.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

Man, I"ve gone through the whole night. It's 6am, I've done almost nothing on my new script, I've defended Halo's story diligently and tried to explain why I have Elisha Cuthbert the way I have in my sig.

And it's come down to this.

Jeez, what a flop.

Spartan070

6am:question: Australia? If so, awesome:D

New Zealand mate. The land of Middle Earth, and quite hopefully, Halo. Directed by me. Honestly, I did not like Blommkamp's short film, and I bet he hasn't written a whole exercise book full of Halo stuff, detailing each and every race, every bit of Halo goodness Bungie has given us.

And if they do go along with, I'll just make a remake in the future. Because no matter how much Halo sucks, it will make a lot of money at the movies. Sadly.

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

It's over, and it should have been put to rest today. That way, it doesn't have to linger on.

Just wow.......

Really, I thought you Vandal were one of the better forumites here. This just basically opened up a little more into how....ermm.... ordinary, you really are.

FrozenLiquid

Um I didn't want to say anythign to Ninja Vox, but there were some things I disagreed on him with. But then, as debates go, Vandal would have attacked that weak spot. So I just kept my side of the argument going. He didn't though.

And we're wrong, smokey, can you right us, please?

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]Ninja Vox predicted this would happen.... omg....Dude, that's the worst cop out I've seen mate.It's like those guys on Lord of the Rings Online that harass someone and then pretend it was all RP. Or when they sexually harrass a female character they pretend to "wake up" in RP and go "Wait... what was I doing?"Dude, the way you were arguing, it was not messing around.Man, I've been in debates heaps. At school and everything. I've debated with everyone. I can tell who's being genuine and who's fooling around.The pattern and methods in which you were arguing with were completely genuine. Okay, you've finally hit the low of the lows.Man, I"ve gone through the whole night. It's 6am, I've done almost nothing on my new script, I've defended Halo's story diligently and tried to explain why I have Elisha Cuthbert the way I have in my sig.And it's come down to this.Jeez, what a flop.FrozenLiquid

I'm going to let this one slide....

But if you did play Halo frequently, you would have added it to your list of games you own and gave it a score. I see everything but Halo.

Ah well, I'm tired. And annoyed that I didn't get much work done.

[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

Man, I"ve gone through the whole night. It's 6am, I've done almost nothing on my new script, I've defended Halo's story diligently and tried to explain why I have Elisha Cuthbert the way I have in my sig.

And it's come down to this.

Jeez, what a flop.

FrozenLiquid

6am:question: Australia? If so, awesome:D

New Zealand mate. The land of Middle Earth, and quite hopefully, Halo. Directed by me. Honestly, I did not like Blommkamp's short film, and I bet he hasn't written a whole exercise book full of Halo stuff, detailing each and every race, every bit of Halo goodness Bungie has given us.

And if they do go along with, I'll just make a remake in the future. Because no matter how much Halo sucks, it will make a lot of money at the movies. Sadly.

It would be a huge waste of my time because you still wouldn't get it through your head, that is the way it is with every fanboy.smokeydabear076

:roll:

Again with the fanboy mantra. If you cant make a worthwhile post, dont bother.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Way to ruin the fun and games, telling them what I was doing. Fine, I was just messing around. I actually like Halo and own it :o http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v495/Vandalvideo/?action=view¤t=halo2.jpgNinja-Vox

No offense to you, but you weren't messing around. You were completely serious for ages until you hit that point where you were undeniably wrong and had argued yourself into a corner, and THEN you started with the deliberately ignoring posts and responding with the same thing just to annoy people. It's called trolling, and i honestly hope you get suspended for it for all the annoyance you've caused other people.

Just let this one slide mate... We'll know for sure once Vandal comments on Halo in the future.

I didn't want to comment on him....

Vandal, I chose not to continue about your transparent explanation as to your whole messing about, because quite frankly I'm tired and worn out.

It's okay though, now it would be best to just leave it and resurface another day.

I've had Halo 2 on my tracking list since god knows when. 0_o Vandalvideo

Uh huh, yet that image shows you holding up a copy of Halo and giving a thumbs up. Should've already written a review since 2003, right?

Nevermind, let's drop it now.

yay, i really didnt like that short film... It didnt feel like halo. I expected Kurt Russel to come out wearing an eye patch or something like that...
wolverine4262

Agreed. Not many people associate Mr. Peter Jackson with the "cult" directors etc. He wouldn't choose someone to who would direct a la LoTR. And with him as executive producer, you can betcha you'll see a Halo movie which is more like his old films Bad Taste and Brain Dead (splatter gore films) rather than LoTR, if the director doesn't have a real good vision.