Halo 3 is not a very mature game... which is why it doesn't appeal to me

I'm not a huge fan of Halo 3 for a multitude of reasons. I think its defintely worthy of a 9/10 score, however certainly not one that should fit in the perfect 10/10s. That's my personal opinion, just as the reviewers on this site who scored the game. However, I'll concede and suggest that there are other 10s that aren't worthy... GTA4 included. However, that is another rant altogether.

So, why does Halo 3 turn me off? I think it sums up with the fact that it is not a very mature title. No, I am not suggesting that the lack of nudity and excessive blood makes it kiddy. Rather, as a whole, there are no aspects of the game that focus on a mature audience.

Let's take the story for example. Is it a refined story that is more complex then the simple story elements throughout all three games? No, there aren't. In fact, the story itself is rather simple, and not finely crafted. This is increasingly obvious when we consider the depth of the characters in the game. Are these characters in any way hold some deep uniqueness? No, they don't... instead they are pretty shallow and flat. As such, throughout the three games, I never once felt some kind of connection with the characters.... I didn't care about them... in fact, had the swarm won... I would probably would have just LOL'ed. This kills it for me to a large degree. A game without a refined storyline is hard for me to consider 'mature'.

The gamplay... well, there is nothing specifically 'mature' about it. Rather, it's very much gameplay that would probably pass the T for teen rating.

Do all games need to be mature? Am I only pleased by mature games. No, there are plenty of games that I love, which arne't mature. However, when a game attempts to portray itself as a mature title, but then falls short of being anything like one... it's a turnoff.

Does anyone here honestly think the Halo series is mature. If so... why?

I guess you should just stick to squats? :P

EDIT and what games do you think are mature?

I don't care if its mature or not as long as i have fun with it. Which is the case. HALO PWNS !!

Halo is the greatest first-person shooter ever made.

Halo 3 for me is kinda "meh". I never understand why people say its the best game ever made, and I never understand why so many people still play it. It doenst feel right. the Physics are all wrong, there is no feedback from the guns, and killing hte bad guys is really unsatisfying when they just go "ah" when they die. Its like a colourful arcade game, and too family friendly for my tastes.

So yea, I completely agree with you.

Halo is the greatest first-person shooter ever made.

Deathlessness

[QUOTE="Deathlessness"]

Halo is the greatest first-person shooter ever made.

clembo1990

I don't care about Mountain Dew. Halo is better than anything in the FPS category.

Halo 3 for me is kinda "meh". I never understand why people say its the best game ever made, and I never understand why so many people still play it. It doenst feel right. the Physics are all wrong, there is no feedback from the guns, and killing hte bad guys is really unsatisfying when they just go "ah" when they die. Its like a colourful arcade game, and too family friendly for my tastes.

So yea, I completely agree with you.

Bunj84

The reason that Halo is so insanely popular has nothing to do with the single player experience

Halo is pretty kiddy if you ask me. The little covenant dwarfs look like skittles when they run and scream around me :P

[QUOTE="Bunj84"]

Halo 3 for me is kinda "meh". I never understand why people say its the best game ever made, and I never understand why so many people still play it. It doenst feel right. the Physics are all wrong, there is no feedback from the guns, and killing hte bad guys is really unsatisfying when they just go "ah" when they die. Its like a colourful arcade game, and too family friendly for my tastes.

So yea, I completely agree with you.

dommeus

The reason that Halo is so insanely popular has nothing to do with the single player experience

MP is rubbish too.

[QUOTE="dommeus"]

[QUOTE="Bunj84"]

Halo 3 for me is kinda "meh". I never understand why people say its the best game ever made, and I never understand why so many people still play it. It doenst feel right. the Physics are all wrong, there is no feedback from the guns, and killing hte bad guys is really unsatisfying when they just go "ah" when they die. Its like a colourful arcade game, and too family friendly for my tastes.

So yea, I completely agree with you.

Bunj84

The reason that Halo is so insanely popular has nothing to do with the single player experience

MP is rubbish too.

No. It's the best on the market. The 1 million unique gamers that daily play the game nearly 2 years after release agree.

[QUOTE="Bunj84"]

[QUOTE="dommeus"]

The reason that Halo is so insanely popular has nothing to do with the single player experience

Deathlessness

MP is rubbish too.

No. It's the best on the market. The 1 million unique gamers that daily play the game nearly 2 years after release agree.

[QUOTE="Bunj84"]

[QUOTE="dommeus"]

The reason that Halo is so insanely popular has nothing to do with the single player experience

Deathlessness

MP is rubbish too.

No. It's the best on the market. The 1 million unique gamers that daily play the game nearly 2 years after release agree.

we get it. youre trolling. you can stop now. but in all seriousness, halo is no where near the best FPS on the market.

Halo >> Mountain Dew

[QUOTE="Deathlessness"]

[QUOTE="Bunj84"]

MP is rubbish too.

anti_hero32

No. It's the best on the market. The 1 million unique gamers that daily play the game nearly 2 years after release agree.

we get it. youre trolling. you can stop now. but in all seriousness, halo is no where near the best FPS on the market.

Yes, it is. It's the best. I'm sorry, nothing compares.

Halo actually a really rich universe and story, read the books, they are a lot deeper than the games at times.

[QUOTE="Bunj84"]

Halo 3 for me is kinda "meh". I never understand why people say its the best game ever made, and I never understand why so many people still play it. It doenst feel right. the Physics are all wrong, there is no feedback from the guns, and killing hte bad guys is really unsatisfying when they just go "ah" when they die. Its like a colourful arcade game, and too family friendly for my tastes.

So yea, I completely agree with you.

dommeus

The reason that Halo is so insanely popular has nothing to do with the single player experience

Your joking right? Halo: Combat Evloved made the origonal Xbox popular without any online multiplayer, it was the Single-Player that made the game popular.

Yes, it is. It's the best. I'm sorry, nothing compares.

Deathlessness

As someone who really enjoys Halo, I agree with your opinion.

But stating it as a fact is wrong.

Halo >> Mountain Dew

NielsNL

I'm not a huge fan of Halo 3 for a multitude of reasons. I think its defintely worthy of a 9/10 score, however certainly not one that should fit in the perfect 10/10s. That's my personal opinion, just as the reviewers on this site who scored the game. However, I'll concede and suggest that there are other 10s that aren't worthy... GTA4 included. However, that is another rant altogether.

So, why does Halo 3 turn me off? I think it sums up with the fact that it is not a very mature title. No, I am not suggesting that the lack of nudity and excessive blood makes it kiddy. Rather, as a whole, there are no aspects of the game that focus on a mature audience.

Let's take the story for example. Is it a refined story that is more complex then the simple story elements throughout all three games? No, there aren't. In fact, the story itself is rather simple, and not finely crafted. This is increasingly obvious when we consider the depth of the characters in the game. Are these characters in any way hold some deep uniqueness? No, they don't... instead they are pretty shallow and flat. As such, throughout the three games, I never once felt some kind of connection with the characters.... I didn't care about them... in fact, had the swarm won... I would probably would have just LOL'ed. This kills it for me to a large degree. A game without a refined storyline is hard for me to consider 'mature'.

The gamplay... well, there is nothing specifically 'mature' about it. Rather, it's very much gameplay that would probably pass the T for teen rating.

Do all games need to be mature? Am I only pleased by mature games. No, there are plenty of games that I love, which arne't mature. However, when a game attempts to portray itself as a mature title, but then falls short of being anything like one... it's a turnoff.

Does anyone here honestly think the Halo series is mature. If so... why?

SquatsAreAwesom

The Halo series doesn't do much for me at all, but this post is ridiculous for several reasons.

1. You contradict yourself: you say early in the post that Halo doesn't focus on a mature audience, but then you say late in the post that Halo tries to potray itself as a "mature game." Which is it?

2.You fail to define what constitutes a game being "mature".

3. You seem so convinced that Halo doesn't do these "mature things", but then you fail to realize that Halo has a very large "mature audience". It's success in this area doesn't really help your post.

4. I think the storyline in the Halo games is pretty damn bad, but certainly no worse than manyother FPS games. Killzone 2 has an extremely shallow storyline with nothing but flat generic characters. Does this make it "not mature"? If we made a great story a huge factor in being "mature", only a few games (and evenless FPS) would come through that criteria alive.

5. How does having round and unique characters=mature? There are plenty "mature" books and movies out there that have generic flat characters and many kid stories that have unique round characters.

6. I think you can find alot better things to criticize about the game. Sorry to break it to you, but your criticisms are just awful.

[QUOTE="Deathlessness"]

Yes, it is. It's the best. I'm sorry, nothing compares.

As someone who really enjoys Halo, I agree with your opinion.

But stating it as a fact is wrong.

[QUOTE="Deathlessness"]

[QUOTE="Bunj84"]

MP is rubbish too.

Verge_6

No. It's the best on the market. The 1 million unique gamers that daily play the game nearly 2 years after release agree.

I'm a 360 owner and a low post count user. In my low count opinion, Halo 3 is distinctly average. The campaign is kinda fun in parts, but nothing special. MP does absolutely nothing for me, and in my low count opinion is totally rubbish.

[QUOTE="NielsNL"]

Halo >> Mountain Dew

blue_hazy_basic

True. My sunday morning urine probably tastes better. (Not that I tried) .... (really I didn't!)

[QUOTE="clembo1990"][QUOTE="Deathlessness"]

Halo is the greatest first-person shooter ever made.

Deathlessness

I don't care about Mountain Dew. Halo is better than anything in the FPS category.

[QUOTE="dommeus"]

[QUOTE="Bunj84"]

Halo 3 for me is kinda "meh". I never understand why people say its the best game ever made, and I never understand why so many people still play it. It doenst feel right. the Physics are all wrong, there is no feedback from the guns, and killing hte bad guys is really unsatisfying when they just go "ah" when they die. Its like a colourful arcade game, and too family friendly for my tastes.

So yea, I completely agree with you.

DarkGamer007

The reason that Halo is so insanely popular has nothing to do with the single player experience

Your joking right? Halo: Combat Evloved made the origonal Xbox popular without any online multiplayer, it was the Single-Player that made the game popular.

Yes, you're right. The people that play Halo 3 right now play the campaign mode!

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Deathlessness"]

No. It's the best on the market. The 1 million unique gamers that daily play the game nearly 2 years after release agree.

Bunj84

I'm a 360 owner and a low post count user. In my low count opinion, Halo 3 is distinctly average. The campaign is kinda fun in parts, but nothing special. MP does absolutely nothing for me, and in my low count opinion is totally rubbish.

Guys, let's please not have an opinion battle. Let's just address the argument the TC made.

Ok. Heres a question. Why? Why is it so good? Like actual tangible reasons.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="NielsNL"]

Halo >> Mountain Dew

True. My sunday morning urine probably tastes better. (Not that I tried) .... (really I didn't!)

[QUOTE="DarkGamer007"]

[QUOTE="dommeus"]

The reason that Halo is so insanely popular has nothing to do with the single player experience

Deathlessness

Your joking right? Halo: Combat Evloved made the origonal Xbox popular without any online multiplayer, it was the Single-Player that made the game popular.

Yes, you're right. The people that play Halo 3 right now play the campaign mode!

What the hell are you talking about?

It makes more sense that they play both the campaign mode and the MP. I bet more people play the MP as most people are probably done with the campaign.

[QUOTE="Deathlessness"]

[QUOTE="clembo1990"] Mountain Dew is the best soda ever made. Damn, that was easy.metalisticpain

I don't care about Mountain Dew. Halo is better than anything in the FPS category.

Wanna know what I think? I think that creature (is it a dog?) in your sig should be the protagonist in the great game for the Wii!

Ok. Heres a question. Why? Why is it so good? Like actual tangible reasons.

anti_hero32

The gameplay can't be matched by any other FPS. I agree the campaign mode may not be the best, but Halo's gameplay and online mode are perfect, basically.

At least give us a little context. What game do you think is mature?

Ok. Heres a question. Why? Why is it so good? Like actual tangible reasons.

anti_hero32

What are "actual tangible" reasons IYO? Unless they say, "it just makes me feel good" or something like that, the reasoning is probably "actual" and "tangible".

[QUOTE="Deathlessness"]

[QUOTE="DarkGamer007"]

Your joking right? Halo: Combat Evloved made the origonal Xbox popular without any online multiplayer, it was the Single-Player that made the game popular.

Tragic_Kingdom7

Yes, you're right. The people that play Halo 3 right now play the campaign mode!

What the hell are you talking about?

It makes more sense that they play both the campaign mode and the MP. I bet more people play the MP as most people are probably done with the campaign.

Yeah, and that's what makes the game so popular... :)

[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

[QUOTE="Deathlessness"]

Yes, you're right. The people that play Halo 3 right now play the campaign mode!

Deathlessness

What the hell are you talking about?

It makes more sense that they play both the campaign mode and the MP. I bet more people play the MP as most people are probably done with the campaign.

Yeah, and that's what makes the game so popular... :)

Oh. OK. I misunderstood your post.

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

[QUOTE="Deathlessness"]

Yes, it is. It's the best. I'm sorry, nothing compares.

blue_hazy_basic

As someone who really enjoys Halo, I agree with your opinion.

But stating it as a fact is wrong.

I simply enjoy the series. I think Bungie has done a great job with the gameplay mechanics, though i will admit neither Halo 2 or 3 campaign have the sense of epicness of CE. But the game simply allows for some pretty hilarious possibilities both online and offline. I still have vivid memories of Halo 2's Sniper Alley and Mausoleum - so many LOL-worthy moments.

There are aspects of other shooters that I like more - but overall Halo has reduced me to mindless drone status. I simply can't turn away from the series :P

[QUOTE="anti_hero32"]

Ok. Heres a question. Why? Why is it so good? Like actual tangible reasons.

Deathlessness

The gameplay can't be matched by any other FPS. I agree the campaign mode may not be the best, but Halo's gameplay and online mode are perfect, basically.

He wanted to know "why" it's perfect.

good for you?

[QUOTE="Deathlessness"]

[QUOTE="anti_hero32"]

Ok. Heres a question. Why? Why is it so good? Like actual tangible reasons.

Tragic_Kingdom7

The gameplay can't be matched by any other FPS. I agree the campaign mode may not be the best, but Halo's gameplay and online mode are perfect, basically.

He wanted to know "why" it's perfect.

No, he wanted to know why the game was good. :)

I think you can find alot better things to criticize about the game. Sorry to break it to you, but your criticisms are just awfulTragic_Kingdom7

It's kinda a shame everyone just read the title and posted (mostly about Mountain Dew :P), without reading his actual thoughts. He makes a legitimate point about the character development, and the simplicity of the storyline. But hey, I guess this sort of dismissiveness is business as usual for System Wars. :(

Halo 3 for me is kinda "meh". I never understand why people say its the best game ever made, and I never understand why so many people still play it. It doenst feel right. the Physics are all wrong, there is no feedback from the guns, and killing hte bad guys is really unsatisfying when they just go "ah" when they die. Its like a colourful arcade game, and too family friendly for my tastes.

So yea, I completely agree with you.

Bunj84

[QUOTE="anti_hero32"]

Ok. Heres a question. Why? Why is it so good? Like actual tangible reasons.

Deathlessness

The gameplay can't be matched by any other FPS. I agree the campaign mode may not be the best, but Halo's gameplay and online mode are perfect, basically.

perfect? really? have you ever played any game BUT halo?

perfect? really? have you ever played any game BUT halo?

anti_hero32

[QUOTE="Deathlessness"]

[QUOTE="anti_hero32"]

Ok. Heres a question. Why? Why is it so good? Like actual tangible reasons.

anti_hero32

The gameplay can't be matched by any other FPS. I agree the campaign mode may not be the best, but Halo's gameplay and online mode are perfect, basically.

perfect? really? have you ever played any game BUT halo?

Yes, I have. I've played all great and excellent first-person shooters. Halo is the most supreme, in my opinion. And in many others, too... :D