Halo 3 ODST will outsell uncharted 2 this year

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#151 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="thens1563"]

And your point is?

thens1563

my point is that we are discussing sales in a sales thread... not quality

people that bring the question of quality in a sales thread is silly. especially the quality of games they havent even played yet

It's stupid to point out obvious things, like the sales of these games.

how is it an obvious thing when these games havent even sold a copy yet? :|

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#152 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="jyoung312"] Maybe here it was but not on metacritic. I actually own Halo CE on pc and it's poorly optimized but fun

So why talk about flops in the first place if you're just going to bring Metacritic into the conversation?
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#153 sexxxyboy
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="jyoung312"] Don't forget that the pc ports of Halo1 &2 were floptastic as welljyoung312

Halo PC was AAA -- I wasn't aware it was hyped AAAA.

Maybe here it was but not on metacritic. I actually own Halo CE on pc and it's poorly optimized but fun

halo game is halo
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#154 RedruM_I
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Of course, this is like Harry Potter outselling the Tolkien books. They're more popular among teens and people who don't usually read but some of us prefer the real deal and not the opium for the masses :)
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#155 thens1563
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[QUOTE="thens1563"]

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

my point is that we are discussing sales in a sales thread... not quality

people that bring the question of quality in a sales thread is silly. especially the quality of games they havent even played yet

ogvampire

It's stupid to point out obvious things, like the sales of these games.

how is it an obvious thing when these games havent even sold a copy yet? :|

It's a Halo game, which have always sold well.

Uncharted is much lesser known.

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#156 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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It's a Halo game, which have always sold well.thens1563
Halo games have not "always" sold well. Halo 2 Vista comes to mind.

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#157 thens1563
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[QUOTE="thens1563"]It's a Halo game, which have always sold well.Stevo_the_gamer

Halo games have not "always" sold well. Halo 2 Vista comes to mind.

Halo games on Xbox platforms always have.

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#158 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="thens1563"]It's a Halo game, which have always sold well.thens1563

Halo games have not "always" sold well. Halo 2 Vista comes to mind.

Halo games on Xbox platforms always have.

uncharted 1 has sold more copies than halo wars... a halo game on an xbox platform

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#159 dragonfly110
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[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

thats obvious, ODST could suck, but its still an FPS halo game and is almost guaranteed to outsell everything this year with the possible exception of GT 5, as GT is the only game that is (I think) coming out this year that has a huge name like Halo ODST. Uncharted 2 is popular for forumites but not much for casuals, Scribblenauts might do okay but probably nowhere near as well as those 2, and any other large releases as I said with Uncharted, dont have big enough names really...

oh, New Super Mario Bros Wii may have a chance to beat it too.

Maxyboy13

I would bet money on MW2 outselling it as well even though I wish it wouldn't. :(

oh, well yea h it will, I was trying to stick with console exclusives since multiplats always tend to outsell console exclusive games if they have a good popular name :P

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#160 thens1563
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[QUOTE="thens1563"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Halo games have not "always" sold well. Halo 2 Vista comes to mind.

ogvampire

Halo games on Xbox platforms always have.

uncharted 1 has sold more copies than halo wars... a halo game on an xbox platform

I don't even know how I started arguing about sales in the first place. All I was trying to say is that even if ODST does outsell U2, U2 will still be the better game.

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#161 Pariah-
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How do you know the game is going to be bad ?Wii_Gamer_277

The real question here is: How do you know it's going to be good? Because previous Halo title's scored well?

The problem here is that you're trying to conflate sales with score. You know it's going to sell well (everyone knows this), but you can't really confirm the score. And thus, you out the disingenuous nature of your commentary on the quality of the franchise relative to its sales.

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#162 Ringx55
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O wow. a Halo game selling tons? Its unheard of!
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#163 Pariah-
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[QUOTE="Pariah-"]

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

a better game depends from person to person. sales are facts

which is what we are discussing here

i love how when something will outsell something, peoples usual first defensive response is "sales dont make it better!!!"

ogvampire

Profit is not conducive to quality.

Quality is measurable even if individual enjoyment is not.

Sales are facts of sales. That's it.

but remember, we play games for enjoyment... not to be impressed by polygons and the quality of the voice acting

The phrase you used was "better game." You confused enjoyment for quality and tried to use the standards of the latter to employ the subjective nature of the former. You're trying to backpeddle by associating "quality" with "production values" this time around.
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#164 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="thens1563"]

Halo games on Xbox platforms always have.

thens1563

uncharted 1 has sold more copies than halo wars... a halo game on an xbox platform

I don't even know how I started arguing about sales in the first place. All I was trying to say is that even if ODST does outsell U2, U2 will still be the better game.

"I don't even know how I started arguing about sales in the first place"

you were trying to point out how its 'obvious' that a halo game would outsell another game... but you realized its not obvious at all

"U2 will still be the better game"

its stupid to point out obvious things. sound familiar ;)

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#165 Darkmoone1
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It's Halo. OF COURSE it's gonna outsell Uncharted 2.
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#166 Wii_Gamer_277
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[QUOTE="Wii_Gamer_277"]How do you know the game is going to be bad ?Pariah-

The real question here is: How do you know it's going to be good? Because previous Halo title's scored well?

The problem here is that you're trying to conflate sales with score. You know it's going to sell well (everyone knows this), but you can't really confirm the score. And thus, you out the disingenuous nature of your commentary on the quality of the franchise relative to its sales.

Im going on a good faith basis and the track record of Bungie's AAA halo games. You guys are saying "Of course halos going to sell well but it certainly wont be the better game" Isnt that jumping the gun and assuming to much as well ?
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#167 Zensword
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I's rather play Uncharted 2than Halo 3 ODST anyday.

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#168 Memoryitis
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Any game with halo in it will outscore any other game lol

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#169 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="Pariah-"]

Profit is not conducive to quality.

Quality is measurable even if individual enjoyment is not.

Sales are facts of sales. That's it.

Pariah-

but remember, we play games for enjoyment... not to be impressed by polygons and the quality of the voice acting

The phrase you used was "better game." You confused enjoyment for quality and tried to use the standards of the latter to employ the subjective nature of the former. You're trying to backpeddle by associating "quality" with "production values" this time around.

well yeah, since none of us have actually played UC2 (whole game, not just beta multi)... how can you know that its a 'better game'? the person was just going by pictures and previews... which just reflect 'production values', not actual 'enjoyment'



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#170 Pariah-
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Im going on a good faith basis and the track record of Bungie's AAA halo games. You guys are saying "Of course halos going to sell well but it certainly wont be the better game" Isnt that jumping the gun and assuming to much as well ?Wii_Gamer_277
I never said it would be the better game. I said that it's going to sell well regardless of quality.
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#171 InsaneBasura
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How bold of you.

Okay so ill make this short..

After seeing that amazing trailer for ODST and the breathtaking commercial ,I think...No im certain that ODST will outsell uncharted 2 by the end of the year...With MW2 ,Tony hawk ride and brutal legendcoming out..uncharted 2 will get lost in the shuffle and will be forgotten before you know it,Do u agree or disagree with my facts?

Discuss

NinjaOmega

The bold must surely be a jest?

Ride being $129 in combination with it looking like a pretty poor game does not bode well.
I believe Brutal Legend will do better than Schafer's previous games, but pre-orders (in the US at least) aren't looking too encouraging. Can't remember source.

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#172 Alpha-Male22
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[QUOTE="NinjaOmega"]

[QUOTE="aaronmullan"]Oh well. Too bad according to you expansions don't count :(aaronmullan

It's a full game for $60 dollars. the example the other guy showed me were fallout DLC which dont count since ithey are a side stories.

Halo 3: ODST. See the 3? It's an expansion.

Hahaha. I don't think he's responded to you has he? If not, his thread has pretty much failed since in his own words, he self-owned himself. Nice job Aaron.
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#173 def_mode
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even if i made a pong game with Halo name on it will sell more than uncharted2

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#174 Renzokucant
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duh.. but uncharted 2 will be teh better game.

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#175 Chutebox
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Wow, OP is REALLY going out on a stretch...:roll:

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#176 Alpha-Male22
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Wow, OP is REALLY going out on a stretch...:roll:

Chutebox

I think he's just trolling, yet I don't see anything happen to him.

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#177 sakura_Ex
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And GT5 will sell more copies than Forza 3. See what I just did there?

Just because a game sells more copies than another game doesn't mean that it's the better game.

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#178 ogvampire
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And GT5 will sell more copies than Forza 3. See what I just did there?

Just because a game sells more copies than another game doesn't mean that it's the better game.

sakura_Ex

and who in this thread made that claim?

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#179 Mattizzle815
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Halo wars sold 1 million copies your just mad that infamous didnt even top the NPD charts lol

NinjaOmega

That Just reinforces the fact that even a **** game like Halo Wars will sell just because it has Halo on it.

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#180 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="NinjaOmega"]

Halo wars sold 1 million copies your just mad that infamous didnt even top the NPD charts lol

Mattizzle815

That Just reinforces the fact that even a **** game like Halo Wars will sell just because it has Halo on it.

you mean that same Halo Wars that is averaging over 80% on metacritic and GR?

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#181 Maqda7
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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

You went out on a limb

I like your courage !

I was hoping no one would post a Captain Obvious pic so I would. :P
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#182 nervmeister
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360 owners get the luxury of playing halo ODST and MW2 where as PS3 owners are stuck with uncharted 2

NinjaOmega

Are you even thinking before you type anymore?

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#183 sakura_Ex
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[QUOTE="NinjaOmega"]

360 owners get the luxury of playing halo ODST and MW2 where as PS3 owners are stuck with uncharted 2

nervmeister

Are you even thinking before you type anymore?

Ignorance is bliss.

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#184 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="sakura_Ex"]

And GT5 will sell more copies than Forza 3. See what I just did there?

Just because a game sells more copies than another game doesn't mean that it's the better game.

ogvampire

and who in this thread made that claim?

Me. Unfortunately
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#185 InfiniteBlak
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no doubt about it.
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#186 jakehouston88
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Uncharted 2 will still be the Better game.

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#187 chocolate1325
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Maybe but not outscore it I think.

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#188 angelkimne
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[QUOTE="funsohng"]well it's halo, of course ppl will buy it blindly because it's "teh halo" will it be a better game? that im not so sure of.

I fail to see what's blind about buying the next installment in a series you enjoy? :? Brand loyalty exists for a reason, people aren't forced to buy Halo, they do it because they like it.
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#189 zarshack
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What a humorous thread. I swear TC is trolling though, or is just really ignorant. Hard to tell based on all the threads they have created before. Its funny how everyone is even bothering to argue about this though. Someone should just say sales dont matter and everyone should move on...

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#190 PSNMatt41
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From what I've seen its just new HUD, maps..oh yeah...the silencer...haven't seen that one before.

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#191 Alizerothree
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I will buy both and help each game outsell the other one.

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#192 themyth01
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maybe look at halo wars that flopped in score and sales.

simslifer
Sold 1 million in its first week if I recall correctly. According to Sony fanboys those are tremendous sales, but according to Halo standards they are indeed pretty weak, it did however outsell KZ2.
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#193 bizzy420
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[QUOTE="NinjaOmega"]

Okay so ill make this short..

After seeing that amazing trailer for ODST and the breathtaking commercial ,I think...No im certain that ODST will outsell uncharted 2 by the end of the year...With MW2 ,Tony hawk ride and brutal legend coming out..uncharted 2 will get lost in the shuffle and will be forgotten before you know it,Do u agree or disagree with my facts?

Discuss

i think odst is overrated, but will outsell pretty much every game. that doesnt mean it will be better, just that it will sell more. its kinda like 50 cent, he is one of the lamest rappers out there, but will sell millions.
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#194 the-obiwan
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Probably, I mean it has Halo in the title. But will it outscore it?black_tempest
it has to :] its HALO DAYUM! anyways seriously speaking the game looks awesome so yeah !
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#195 the-obiwan
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[QUOTE="simslifer"]

maybe look at halo wars that flopped in score and sales.

themyth01
Sold 1 million in its first week if I recall correctly. According to Sony fanboys those are tremendous sales, but according to Halo standards they are indeed pretty weak, it did however outsell KZ2.

well that wasnt really a halo game afterall... more like rts what do you expected XD even i didnt got interested on it and i didnt got it. but this one is fo sure :]
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#196 Nawshus
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Ofcourse it will, uncharted 2 is an un-established fake tomb raider franchise with a weak predecessor. Personally neither are my most anticipated games to come this fall.

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#197 the-obiwan
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Ofcourse it will, uncharted 2 is an un-established fake tomb raider franchise with a weak predecessor. Personally neither are my most anticipated games to come this fall.

Nawshus
more like INDIANA JONES, yes i did it again :P
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#198 themyth01
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Judging by the numbers available now, the probability of Halo ODST outselling Uncharted is extremely likely, Halo ODST has over 800,000 pre-orders already.
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#199 simslifer
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[QUOTE="simslifer"]

maybe look at halo wars that flopped in score and sales.

themyth01

Sold 1 million in its first week if I recall correctly. According to Sony fanboys those are tremendous sales, but according to Halo standards they are indeed pretty weak, it did however outsell KZ2.

for m$ standards it's pathetic especially considering it's halo and Xbox 360 has moore systems sold.

do you have any proof halo wars sold more than killzone 2 ?

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#200 themyth01
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[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="simslifer"]

maybe look at halo wars that flopped in score and sales.

simslifer

Sold 1 million in its first week if I recall correctly. According to Sony fanboys those are tremendous sales, but according to Halo standards they are indeed pretty weak, it did however outsell KZ2.

for m$ standards it's pathetic especially considering it's halo and Xbox 360 has moore systems sold.

do you have any proof halo wars sold more than killzone 2 ?

On NA, yes, it's called NPD.