Halo 3 will flop...

it's as impossible to say why it won't flop.
CaseyWegner

[QUOTE="amtentori"] how good do halos graphics have to be to give us the wow factor that gears gave us?
OXIIIIXO

I'm ready to sacrific graphics for larger environments, GeOW felt claustrophobic.

[QUOTE="Liquid_47"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Liquid_47"][QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]It might. If Zelda flopped, anything is possible.CaseyWegner

why cant we all just WAIT untill bungie shows off halo3 in all its glory and then start bashing it saying it will flop.lawlessx

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]why cant we all just WAIT untill bungie shows off halo3 in all its glory and then start bashing it saying it will flop.Bansheesdie

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]why cant we all just WAIT untill bungie shows off halo3 in all its glory and then start bashing it saying it will flop.Bansheesdie

That was well written and although I disagree on several points I respect the way you posted it. Now...

A) Gears is in no way a threat to Halos' score, neither is any other game imo.

B) Graphics are in no way a threat to Halos' score either, it's all about gameplay.

C) Graphics don't need to be a "WOW" factor, the action will be far more intense than Gears plus the name itself IS a big wow factor for many.

D) As far as satifying goes, Halo 2s' story was supposedly wretched yet it remained tops on XBL for over 2 years straight.

E) It brings the "console king" back to the table, plus we don't know enough to say that it won't bring anything new.

F) Halo 2 online brought nothing new and people claimed Halo 1 multiplayer was better, yet see "D."

G) Halo 1 and Halo 2 are two of the most critically acclaimed console shooters in history, I'm not a gambling man but I sure wouldn't bet on Halo 3 getting anything less than AAA.

Spartan070

[QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]It might. If Zelda flopped, anything is possible.Bansheesdie

What did Rob post?_en1gma_

[QUOTE="Bansheesdie"][QUOTE="lawlessx"]why cant we all just WAIT untill bungie shows off halo3 in all its glory and then start bashing it saying it will flop.trix5817

wasnt there a thread about this already that made it too like 1300 post?air0123

[QUOTE="_en1gma_"]What did Rob post?Rob2223

[QUOTE="Rob2223"]

:| i think i quoted 1 too many times, or was drifting off topic, anyway about how great Halo 3 will be, and it wont flop._en1gma_

tp had a new story, some new weapons, and all characters are new except for zelda....

are you saying master chief wont be in halo 3? are you saying there wont be a shotgun or machine gun in halo 3? are you saying that the covenant wont appear in halo 3?

tp had link ( a different link), ganodorf, zelda, and a horse... it had the gorons the zoras, it had a bow, bombs, etc...

it also had lots of new things ball and chain, dominion rod, wolf transformation, tons of new places, etc..

is halo 3 going to be a complete revamp of the franchise? we dont know much but i would place my money on no...
amtentori

[QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]It might. If Zelda flopped, anything is possible.Bansheesdie

[QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="Rob2223"]

:| i think i quoted 1 too many times, or was drifting off topic, anyway about how great Halo 3 will be, and it wont flop.Rob2223

[QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="Rob2223"]

:| i think i quoted 1 too many times, or was drifting off topic, anyway about how great Halo 3 will be, and it wont flop.Rob2223

[QUOTE="Bansheesdie"][QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]It might. If Zelda flopped, anything is possible.BlazeDragon132

[QUOTE="Rob2223"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="Rob2223"]

:| i think i quoted 1 too many times, or was drifting off topic, anyway about how great Halo 3 will be, and it wont flop.lawlessx

[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="Rob2223"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="Rob2223"]

:| i think i quoted 1 too many times, or was drifting off topic, anyway about how great Halo 3 will be, and it wont flop.Rob2223

That was well written and although I disagree on several points I respect the way you posted it. Now...

A) Gears is in no way a threat to Halos' score, neither is any other game imo.

B) Graphics are in no way a threat to Halos' score either, it's all about gameplay.

C) Graphics don't need to be a "WOW" factor, the action will be far more intense than Gears plus the name itself IS a big wow factor for many.

D) As far as satifying goes, Halo 2s' story was supposedly wretched yet it remained tops on XBL for over 2 years straight.

E) It brings the "console king" back to the table, plus we don't know enough to say that it won't bring anything new.

F) Halo 2 online brought nothing new and people claimed Halo 1 multiplayer was better, yet see "D."

G) Halo 1 and Halo 2 are two of the most critically acclaimed console shooters in history, I'm not a gambling man but I sure wouldn't bet on Halo 3 getting anything less than AAA.

Spartan070

[QUOTE="Rob2223"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="Rob2223"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="Rob2223"]

:| i think i quoted 1 too many times, or was drifting off topic, anyway about how great Halo 3 will be, and it wont flop._en1gma_

Amtentori, you have to be kidding.  Halo is not only an amazing FPS, but it's also one of the best games ever made.

Halo is one of the best games of all time.  Not many people will argue that Halo 2 stumbled a bit, myself included.  They had to patch the game in order to make it more like Halo for gods sake.  Bungie would not have had to publicly critisize Halo 2 for me to know that they knew they ****ed it up.

I think Halo 3 will raise the bar so high, that it will almost be out of reach.  A bar so high, that games such as Crysis, Killzone 2, and anything else won't touch it. 

[QUOTE="BlazeDragon132"][QUOTE="Bansheesdie"][QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]It might. If Zelda flopped, anything is possible.Bansheesdie

ok you are doing what i wanted.. trying to post intelligent answers... so lets continue

 i believe other games can affect a games score.. im sure that if rfom came before gears it might have seemed more impressive....
if halo 3 has a solid story it will be seem better than halo 2 which got a high score which is a good thing in its favor.
how much better can multiplayer get? i cant think of anything, im not saying that it cant...
i would also put my money on halo 3 AAA :P

but seriously what can halo 3 bring? bioshock, fear, vegas have come out since... what will halo 3 do better?
if it does will it be a significant improvement to deserve AAA?
amtentori

That was well written and although I disagree on several points I respect the way you posted it. Now...

A) Gears is in no way a threat to Halos' score, neither is any other game imo.

B) Graphics are in no way a threat to Halos' score either, it's all about gameplay.

C) Graphics don't need to be a "WOW" factor, the action will be far more intense than Gears plus the name itself IS a big wow factor for many.

D) As far as satifying goes, Halo 2s' story was supposedly wretched yet it remained tops on XBL for over 2 years straight.

E) It brings the "console king" back to the table, plus we don't know enough to say that it won't bring anything new.

F) Halo 2 online brought nothing new and people claimed Halo 1 multiplayer was better, yet see "D."

G) Halo 1 and Halo 2 are two of the most critically acclaimed console shooters in history, I'm not a gambling man but I sure wouldn't bet on Halo 3 getting anything less than AAA.

Spartan070

[QUOTE="amtentori"]tp had a new story, some new weapons, and all characters are new except for zelda....

are you saying master chief wont be in halo 3? are you saying there wont be a shotgun or machine gun in halo 3? are you saying that the covenant wont appear in halo 3?

tp had link ( a different link), ganodorf, zelda, and a horse... it had the gorons the zoras, it had a bow, bombs, etc...

it also had lots of new things ball and chain, dominion rod, wolf transformation, tons of new places, etc..

is halo 3 going to be a complete revamp of the franchise? we dont know much but i would place my money on no...
Bansheesdie

[QUOTE="Bansheesdie"][QUOTE="BlazeDragon132"]Wrong about tunics, Iron boots weren't magnatized in OOT. Boomerang and bow has been in plenty of Zelda games, same with Master Sword. 3 recycled weapons are in Halo also: Needler, Plasma Grenades, Energy Pistol. so there, Zelda and Halo recycle weapons. Owned much?BlazeDragon132

[QUOTE="BlazeDragon132"][QUOTE="Bansheesdie"][QUOTE="BlazeDragon132"]Wrong about tunics, Iron boots weren't magnatized in OOT. Boomerang and bow has been in plenty of Zelda games, same with Master Sword. 3 recycled weapons are in Halo also: Needler, Plasma Grenades, Energy Pistol. so there, Zelda and Halo recycle weapons. Owned much?Rob2223

ok you are doing what i wanted.. trying to post intelligent answers... so lets continue

 i believe other games can affect a games score.. im sure that if rfom came before gears it might have seemed more impressive....
if halo 3 has a solid story it will be seem better than halo 2 which got a high score which is a good thing in its favor.
how much better can multiplayer get? i cant think of anything, im not saying that it cant...
i would also put my money on halo 3 AAA :P

but seriously what can halo 3 bring? bioshock, fear, vegas have come out since... what will halo 3 do better?
if it does will it be a significant improvement to deserve AAA?
amtentori

[QUOTE="amtentori"]This is not flamebait but rather consider it motivation for an intelligent discussion.

i believe that other FPS will overshadow whatever halo 3 brings to the table in terms of gameplay. even rfom will make it harder for rfom to get a higher score. i have yet to play rfom and i havent obviously played halo 3 but im sure that they are both great.

lets begin with the good and the bad about rfom. the game has good graphics, detailed and varied environments, diverse weapons, good ai, good online mp with up to 40 ppl and no lag, etc. what score did it get? 8.6 why? it was a generic fps.. a good one that did everything well but failed to bring anything new. another example is zelda tp, the best zelda game ever made in many ways but its familiarity with previous zelda games and a cookie cutter formula got it a score of 8.8.
other games on the 360 will also hurt halos score. gears is an awesome as is rainbow six vegas. how good do halos graphics have to be to give us the wow factor that gears gave us? will halo have better team tactics than vegas? will halo 3 be as interactive  as bioshock? will it be as vast as mass effect?

halo 3 is not an original ip anymore... how much can it satisfy us apart from the fact that its halo and we are finishing the fight?

tell me.. what will halo 3 bring to the table apart from possibly slightly superior graphics? how much can it bring to the fps genre that has been done before or that will be done this year before it? how good can fps multiplayer get?

 a part of me wants halo to be a great game because i plan on playing it someday and hopefully further justify a purchase of a 360, another part of me wants halo to get a low score to behold the chaos that would ensue in system wars.

what do you think?
Wiifanboy_4life

You have many points here. Not to mention Metroid Prime 3 will give Halo 3 a run for its money. Not saying MP3 will get a higher score, but I'm pretty sure I'll like MP3 more, mainly because it's single-player is better, and since my mom doesn't go for online unless it's free, I won't be able to even taste the awesomeness off Halo 3's online without going over to a friend's house.

Amtentori, you have to be kidding.  Halo is not only an amazing FPS, but it's also one of the best games ever made.

Halo is one of the best games of all time.  Not many people will argue that Halo 2 stumbled a bit, myself included.  They had to patch the game in order to make it more like Halo for gods sake.  Bungie would not have had to publicly critisize Halo 2 for me to know that they knew they ****ed it up.

I think Halo 3 will raise the bar so high, that it will almost be out of reach.  A bar so high, that games such as Crysis, Killzone 2, and anything else won't touch it. 

Spartanx23

[QUOTE="Spartanx23"]

Amtentori, you have to be kidding. Halo is not only an amazing FPS, but it's also one of the best games ever made.

Halo is one of the best games of all time. Not many people will argue that Halo 2 stumbled a bit, myself included. They had to patch the game in order to make it more like Halo for gods sake. Bungie would not have had to publicly critisize Halo 2 for me to know that they knew they ****ed it up.

I think Halo 3 will raise the bar so high, that it will almost be out of reach. A bar so high, that games such as Crysis, Killzone 2, and anything else won't touch it.

Spartan070

[QUOTE="Spartanx23"]

Amtentori, you have to be kidding. Halo is not only an amazing FPS, but it's also one of the best games ever made.

Halo is one of the best games of all time. Not many people will argue that Halo 2 stumbled a bit, myself included. They had to patch the game in order to make it more like Halo for gods sake. Bungie would not have had to publicly critisize Halo 2 for me to know that they knew they ****ed it up.

I think Halo 3 will raise the bar so high, that it will almost be out of reach. A bar so high, that games such as Crysis, Killzone 2, and anything else won't touch it.

Spartan070

[QUOTE="amtentori"]tp had a new story, some new weapons, and all characters are new except for zelda....

are you saying master chief wont be in halo 3? are you saying there wont be a shotgun or machine gun in halo 3? are you saying that the covenant wont appear in halo 3?

tp had link ( a different link), ganodorf, zelda, and a horse... it had the gorons the zoras, it had a bow, bombs, etc...

it also had lots of new things ball and chain, dominion rod, wolf transformation, tons of new places, etc..

is halo 3 going to be a complete revamp of the franchise? we dont know much but i would place my money on no...
Bansheesdie

but you're saying all of that AFTER zelda was reviewed. we didn't know that stuff ahead of time.
CaseyWegner

i agree halo is an awesome game... i get hyped up for halo 3 whenever i imagine halo ce's music... will crysis get AAA? will halo look as good as crysis? will halo have environments as interactive as crysis? im not saying that halo 3 will be a bad game or that halo 1 and 2 werent awesome...

im saying that the bar is raised higher and higher everytime... can halo raise it high enough above the competition so that any familiarity with previous games in th series and even the fps are rendered meaningless?
amtentori