Halo 3 Won't Be Successful

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#751 yo_foo
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[QUOTE="coolviper2003"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="121213212132123"]You never had credibility. /owned



That doesn't make sense. Yo_foo's opinion is considered valuable otherwise this thread would of not been so large.

And you can't call someone elses opinion incorrect.



and you can't say your opinion is fact..which is all this guy has been doing ..saying halo3 is going to fail to meet expectations because HE hated halo2 and HE thinks bungie arent going to change anything about halo's gameplay.

but a lot of people hated Halo 2. Halo2sucks.com is an example of this. :'(

People hated Halo 1 too. Just because a handful of people thinks the game sucks, doesn't mean it's a disappointment for all gamers. I don't understand your logic when you say Halo 3 will disappoint, you have no fact and no basis to say that. Yeah, Halo 2 was so much of a disspointment that thousands are playing on Xbox Live as we speak.

Yes but for hardcore fans who enjoyed the tactical elements of the original Halo they were quite disappointed with the dumbed down tactical elements Halo 2. :'( :'(
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#752 yo_foo
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[QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="JediMasterSheed"][QUOTE="yo_foo"]Halo: Combat Evolved. Or rather - Combat DeEvolved. Tri-valley
oh roffles. w/ cleverness like that, u should cure AIDS. :roll: resistence isnt better than either halo from a gameplay standpoint. rocky sux. u dont sell near 7 million copies off and not consider it a hit.

once again sales doesn't equal gameplay success. :'(



Yes it does. :')

not on gameplay though. 50 Cent Bulletproof is a fine example. :'(
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#753 JediMasterSheed
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[QUOTE="JediMasterSheed"][QUOTE="yo_foo"]Halo: Combat Evolved. Or rather - Combat DeEvolved. yo_foo
oh roffles. w/ cleverness like that, u should cure AIDS. :roll: resistence isnt better than either halo from a gameplay standpoint. rocky sux. u dont sell near 7 million copies off and not consider it a hit.

once again sales doesn't equal gameplay success. :'(

while its tru h2 didnt play as well as h1 from a mechanical standpoint (hitboxes, autoaim, etc.), its still beats the outta the 'cant decide what it wants to be other than a mess' rfom.
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#754 coolviper2003
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[QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="coolviper2003"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="121213212132123"]You never had credibility. /owned



That doesn't make sense. Yo_foo's opinion is considered valuable otherwise this thread would of not been so large.

And you can't call someone elses opinion incorrect.



and you can't say your opinion is fact..which is all this guy has been doing ..saying halo3 is going to fail to meet expectations because HE hated halo2 and HE thinks bungie arent going to change anything about halo's gameplay.

but a lot of people hated Halo 2. Halo2sucks.com is an example of this. :'(

People hated Halo 1 too. Just because a handful of people thinks the game sucks, doesn't mean it's a disappointment for all gamers. I don't understand your logic when you say Halo 3 will disappoint, you have no fact and no basis to say that. Yeah, Halo 2 was so much of a disspointment that thousands are playing on Xbox Live as we speak.

Yes but for hardcore fans who enjoyed the tactical elements of the original Halo they were quite disappointed with the dumbed down tactical elements Halo 2. :'( :'(

Dumbed down tactics? Give me examples of this, because you do have to take a lot of cover and slowly make your advance a lot in Halo 2. The AI is smarter in Halo 2, that's a fact and Bungie even went on record to say that. How is it dumbed down again?
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#755 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]
im well aware that any game can flop,but his first post didnt really sound like a prediction..he made it sound like he knew what bungie and microsoft were going to do with halo3 and NOBODY really knows what bungie are really doing differently with halo3 because they havent told us much of anything.
the-very-best


Well do you think he would of got a reaction like this if he'd asked the question of whether or not Halo 3 would be successful?


and btw..i didnt make the sig im using,but i think the name is noticeable.. and why didnt you just look at my profile ?:
lawlessx


I don't check profiles much. And since SW is full of so many different opinions from so many different people it's hard to remember certain people.

You post here a lot though and are logical which is why I remember you now though.


if he started the topic saying "why i think halo3 wont be very successful" ..i think people would just hear what he has to say and brush it off and forget about it..him saying that the game will not be successful will of course start a huge flame war because who is he to say if the game will be successful or not? nobody else has really played the game besides bungie and the us army... and thanks for that..your a great poster yourself
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WTF is with :'( at the end of everything. FFS are you depressed or something.
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#757 Tri-valley
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[QUOTE="Tri-valley"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="JediMasterSheed"][QUOTE="yo_foo"]Halo: Combat Evolved. Or rather - Combat DeEvolved. yo_foo
oh roffles. w/ cleverness like that, u should cure AIDS. :roll: resistence isnt better than either halo from a gameplay standpoint. rocky sux. u dont sell near 7 million copies off and not consider it a hit.

once again sales doesn't equal gameplay success. :'(



Yes it does. :')

not on gameplay though. 50 Cent Bulletproof is a fine example. :'(



But Gears of War is a fine example of when it does equal it. I bet I can find more games to support my point than your very few exceptions. :')


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#758 Davis092
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WTF is with :'( at the end of everything. FFS are you depressed or something.23232323233
It's his trademake fool.
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#759 yo_foo
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I can't wait for Halo 3. I think Bungie will do a fine job. Many people feel the same way. Many people will most likely buy Halo 3. The probability of sales being superb is almost nearly a given.

One lone troll, with no facts, bias, and blindness to the obvious will not affect anything on this matter. And thus, the dust speck cried sadly into the huge universe... "I MEAN SOMETHING :'(". :lol:

Anyway, what is everyone else excited about so far from what has been shown? Personally, the new enemies are making me drool. The style, the story, the action... man, there's too much! GAH! Is it the release date yet?! All this talk is making me impatient and giddy now! :)


Tri-valley
see everyone is basically saying "How good it looks" and saying that it will be good based on the amazing graphics. Even the reports I've seen have just talked about the graphics. Seeing as Microsoft focus on power rather than originality in gameplay I wouldn't be surprised if Halo 3 is All Show and No Substance. :'(
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#760 Tri-valley
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[QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="coolviper2003"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="121213212132123"]You never had credibility. /owned



That doesn't make sense. Yo_foo's opinion is considered valuable otherwise this thread would of not been so large.

And you can't call someone elses opinion incorrect.



and you can't say your opinion is fact..which is all this guy has been doing ..saying halo3 is going to fail to meet expectations because HE hated halo2 and HE thinks bungie arent going to change anything about halo's gameplay.

but a lot of people hated Halo 2. Halo2sucks.com is an example of this. :'(

People hated Halo 1 too. Just because a handful of people thinks the game sucks, doesn't mean it's a disappointment for all gamers. I don't understand your logic when you say Halo 3 will disappoint, you have no fact and no basis to say that. Yeah, Halo 2 was so much of a disspointment that thousands are playing on Xbox Live as we speak.

Yes but for hardcore fans who enjoyed the tactical elements of the original Halo they were quite disappointed with the dumbed down tactical elements Halo 2. :'( :'(



I wasn't. I'm hardcore. :')
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#761 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="coolviper2003"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="121213212132123"]You never had credibility. /owned



That doesn't make sense. Yo_foo's opinion is considered valuable otherwise this thread would of not been so large.

And you can't call someone elses opinion incorrect.



and you can't say your opinion is fact..which is all this guy has been doing ..saying halo3 is going to fail to meet expectations because HE hated halo2 and HE thinks bungie arent going to change anything about halo's gameplay.

but a lot of people hated Halo 2. Halo2sucks.com is an example of this. :'(

People hated Halo 1 too. Just because a handful of people thinks the game sucks, doesn't mean it's a disappointment for all gamers. I don't understand your logic when you say Halo 3 will disappoint, you have no fact and no basis to say that. Yeah, Halo 2 was so much of a disspointment that thousands are playing on Xbox Live as we speak.

Yes but for hardcore fans who enjoyed the tactical elements of the original Halo they were quite disappointed with the dumbed down tactical elements Halo 2. :'( :'(



im a harcore halo fan and i enjoyed both games very well.....dont really get where your going  with this lack of tactical elements bit..
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#762 coolviper2003
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[QUOTE="Tri-valley"]I can't wait for Halo 3. I think Bungie will do a fine job. Many people feel the same way. Many people will most likely buy Halo 3. The probability of sales being superb is almost nearly a given.

One lone troll, with no facts, bias, and blindness to the obvious will not affect anything on this matter. And thus, the dust speck cried sadly into the huge universe... "I MEAN SOMETHING :'(". :lol:

Anyway, what is everyone else excited about so far from what has been shown? Personally, the new enemies are making me drool. The style, the story, the action... man, there's too much! GAH! Is it the release date yet?! All this talk is making me impatient and giddy now! :)


yo_foo
see everyone is basically saying "How good it looks" and saying that it will be good based on the amazing graphics. Even the reports I've seen have just talked about the graphics. Seeing as Microsoft focus on power rather than originality in gameplay I wouldn't be surprised if Halo 3 is All Show and No Substance. :'(

Where did he mention anything about how good it looks or it's graphics?
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#763 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="Tri-valley"]I can't wait for Halo 3. I think Bungie will do a fine job. Many people feel the same way. Many people will most likely buy Halo 3. The probability of sales being superb is almost nearly a given.

One lone troll, with no facts, bias, and blindness to the obvious will not affect anything on this matter. And thus, the dust speck cried sadly into the huge universe... "I MEAN SOMETHING :'(". :lol:

Anyway, what is everyone else excited about so far from what has been shown? Personally, the new enemies are making me drool. The style, the story, the action... man, there's too much! GAH! Is it the release date yet?! All this talk is making me impatient and giddy now! :)


yo_foo
see everyone is basically saying "How good it looks" and saying that it will be good based on the amazing graphics. Even the reports I've seen have just talked about the graphics. Seeing as Microsoft focus on power rather than originality in gameplay I wouldn't be surprised if Halo 3 is All Show and No Substance. :'(

microsoft isnt creating the game..bungie are
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#764 yo_foo
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[QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="JediMasterSheed"][QUOTE="yo_foo"]Halo: Combat Evolved. Or rather - Combat DeEvolved. JediMasterSheed
oh roffles. w/ cleverness like that, u should cure AIDS. :roll: resistence isnt better than either halo from a gameplay standpoint. rocky sux. u dont sell near 7 million copies off and not consider it a hit.

once again sales doesn't equal gameplay success. :'(

while its tru h2 didnt play as well as h1 from a mechanical standpoint (hitboxes, autoaim, etc.), its still beats the outta the 'cant decide what it wants to be other than a mess' rfom.

RFOM was original in its right that it combined all the great parts of FPS into a nice little package. And FPS are hard to do on consoles. Bungie got it absolutely right with Halo 1 and because of the higher expectations of games on the Playstation, RFOM fell short in expectation. :'(
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#765 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="Tri-valley"]I can't wait for Halo 3. I think Bungie will do a fine job. Many people feel the same way. Many people will most likely buy Halo 3. The probability of sales being superb is almost nearly a given.

One lone troll, with no facts, bias, and blindness to the obvious will not affect anything on this matter. And thus, the dust speck cried sadly into the huge universe... "I MEAN SOMETHING :'(". :lol:

Anyway, what is everyone else excited about so far from what has been shown? Personally, the new enemies are making me drool. The style, the story, the action... man, there's too much! GAH! Is it the release date yet?! All this talk is making me impatient and giddy now! :)


coolviper2003
see everyone is basically saying "How good it looks" and saying that it will be good based on the amazing graphics. Even the reports I've seen have just talked about the graphics. Seeing as Microsoft focus on power rather than originality in gameplay I wouldn't be surprised if Halo 3 is All Show and No Substance. :'(

Where did he mention anything about how good it looks or it's graphics?

thats like the 3rd time he assumed something that wasn't said
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#766 Tri-valley
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[QUOTE="Tri-valley"]I can't wait for Halo 3. I think Bungie will do a fine job. Many people feel the same way. Many people will most likely buy Halo 3. The probability of sales being superb is almost nearly a given.

One lone troll, with no facts, bias, and blindness to the obvious will not affect anything on this matter. And thus, the dust speck cried sadly into the huge universe... "I MEAN SOMETHING :'(". :lol:

Anyway, what is everyone else excited about so far from what has been shown? Personally, the new enemies are making me drool. The style, the story, the action... man, there's too much! GAH! Is it the release date yet?! All this talk is making me impatient and giddy now! :)


yo_foo
see everyone is basically saying "How good it looks" and saying that it will be good based on the amazing graphics. Even the reports I've seen have just talked about the graphics. Seeing as Microsoft focus on power rather than originality in gameplay I wouldn't be surprised if Halo 3 is All Show and No Substance. :'(



Nope. 'Basically' what I'm saying is that the game looks appealing on all levels from what I've seen/what has been presented. If you've only seen things about graphics, well, I'd say you'd better look harder, buddy. You're missing alot... but that doesn't really surprise me. :')
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#767 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]Well to be honest, I think it probably won't be able to match expectations set by gamers because Halo 2 was just that good. I think Halo 3 will be a great game but I don't see it surpassing the greatness of Halo 2.

I also think it will sell less than Halo 2, and I think it will score less too.

Despite all that it's one of my most anticipated games for this year.
yo_foo
to me Halo 2 was very disappointing. It will score less than Halo 2 and will be unsuccessful in matching gmaers expectations :'(



halo3 can be dissapointing to you and great for tons of other fans of series who enjoyed halo1 and halo2.

Originality sells. A lack of does not. :'(



So then by that logic why are you bashing the Wii. You should love the Wii in your case yet you bash it. Your logic is flawed as ever :roll:
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#768 yo_foo
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[QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="Tri-valley"]I can't wait for Halo 3. I think Bungie will do a fine job. Many people feel the same way. Many people will most likely buy Halo 3. The probability of sales being superb is almost nearly a given.

One lone troll, with no facts, bias, and blindness to the obvious will not affect anything on this matter. And thus, the dust speck cried sadly into the huge universe... "I MEAN SOMETHING :'(". :lol:

Anyway, what is everyone else excited about so far from what has been shown? Personally, the new enemies are making me drool. The style, the story, the action... man, there's too much! GAH! Is it the release date yet?! All this talk is making me impatient and giddy now! :)


coolviper2003
see everyone is basically saying "How good it looks" and saying that it will be good based on the amazing graphics. Even the reports I've seen have just talked about the graphics. Seeing as Microsoft focus on power rather than originality in gameplay I wouldn't be surprised if Halo 3 is All Show and No Substance. :'(

Where did he mention anything about how good it looks or it's graphics?

It wasn't directed at him it was directed to everybody. :'(
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#769 the-very-best
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]if he started the topic saying "why i think halo3 wont be very successful" ..i think people would just hear what he has to say and brush it off and forget about it..him saying that the game will not be successful will of course start a huge flame war because who is he to say if the game will be successful or not? nobody else has really played the game besides bungie and the us army... and thanks for that..your a great poster yourself



Thanks.

And this is yo_foo we're talking about! Of course he doesn't want people to "brush it off". He wants to make an impact! That's why I like him.


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#770 yo_foo
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[QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="Tri-valley"]I can't wait for Halo 3. I think Bungie will do a fine job. Many people feel the same way. Many people will most likely buy Halo 3. The probability of sales being superb is almost nearly a given.

One lone troll, with no facts, bias, and blindness to the obvious will not affect anything on this matter. And thus, the dust speck cried sadly into the huge universe... "I MEAN SOMETHING :'(". :lol:

Anyway, what is everyone else excited about so far from what has been shown? Personally, the new enemies are making me drool. The style, the story, the action... man, there's too much! GAH! Is it the release date yet?! All this talk is making me impatient and giddy now! :)


lawlessx
see everyone is basically saying "How good it looks" and saying that it will be good based on the amazing graphics. Even the reports I've seen have just talked about the graphics. Seeing as Microsoft focus on power rather than originality in gameplay I wouldn't be surprised if Halo 3 is All Show and No Substance. :'(

microsoft isnt creating the game..bungie are

I'm talking about Microsofts focus on the power of the 360 than the actual gameplay. :'(
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#771 yo_foo
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="coolviper2003"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="121213212132123"]You never had credibility. /owned



That doesn't make sense. Yo_foo's opinion is considered valuable otherwise this thread would of not been so large.

And you can't call someone elses opinion incorrect.



and you can't say your opinion is fact..which is all this guy has been doing ..saying halo3 is going to fail to meet expectations because HE hated halo2 and HE thinks bungie arent going to change anything about halo's gameplay.

but a lot of people hated Halo 2. Halo2sucks.com is an example of this. :'(

People hated Halo 1 too. Just because a handful of people thinks the game sucks, doesn't mean it's a disappointment for all gamers. I don't understand your logic when you say Halo 3 will disappoint, you have no fact and no basis to say that. Yeah, Halo 2 was so much of a disspointment that thousands are playing on Xbox Live as we speak.

Yes but for hardcore fans who enjoyed the tactical elements of the original Halo they were quite disappointed with the dumbed down tactical elements Halo 2. :'( :'(



im a harcore halo fan and i enjoyed both games very well.....dont really get where your going with this lack of tactical elements bit..

Halo 1 was more of a tactical shooter than Halo 2. Halo 2 was dumbed down quite a bit for n00bs to the game. For a general appeal. :'(
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Yes but for hardcore fans who enjoyed the tactical elements of the original Halo they were quite disappointed with the dumbed down tactical elements Halo 2. :'( :'(yo_foo
I admit that I'm an uber-harcore Halo nut, I loved it. How can you speak for hardcore Halo fans?:? You don't seem like one to me.....
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#773 yo_foo
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[QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]Well to be honest, I think it probably won't be able to match expectations set by gamers because Halo 2 was just that good. I think Halo 3 will be a great game but I don't see it surpassing the greatness of Halo 2.

I also think it will sell less than Halo 2, and I think it will score less too.

Despite all that it's one of my most anticipated games for this year.
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to me Halo 2 was very disappointing. It will score less than Halo 2 and will be unsuccessful in matching gmaers expectations :'(



halo3 can be dissapointing to you and great for tons of other fans of series who enjoyed halo1 and halo2.

Originality sells. A lack of does not. :'(



So then by that logic why are you bashing the Wii. You should love the Wii in your case yet you bash it. Your logic is flawed as ever :roll:

Wii is not all that original. I have discussed that in other threads. But this thread is about Halo. Let's try and stay on track here. :'(
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#774 Tri-valley
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="Tri-valley"]I can't wait for Halo 3. I think Bungie will do a fine job. Many people feel the same way. Many people will most likely buy Halo 3. The probability of sales being superb is almost nearly a given.

One lone troll, with no facts, bias, and blindness to the obvious will not affect anything on this matter. And thus, the dust speck cried sadly into the huge universe... "I MEAN SOMETHING :'(". :lol:

Anyway, what is everyone else excited about so far from what has been shown? Personally, the new enemies are making me drool. The style, the story, the action... man, there's too much! GAH! Is it the release date yet?! All this talk is making me impatient and giddy now! :)


yo_foo
see everyone is basically saying "How good it looks" and saying that it will be good based on the amazing graphics. Even the reports I've seen have just talked about the graphics. Seeing as Microsoft focus on power rather than originality in gameplay I wouldn't be surprised if Halo 3 is All Show and No Substance. :'(

microsoft isnt creating the game..bungie are

I'm talking about Microsofts focus on the power of the 360 than the actual gameplay. :'(



Nope, not true. They are focusing on multiple things. Graphics is just one of them. A whole slew of gameplay elements has already been talked about. Again, you're missing alot, buddy. :')
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#775 yo_foo
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="yo_foo"] Yes but for hardcore fans who enjoyed the tactical elements of the original Halo they were quite disappointed with the dumbed down tactical elements Halo 2. :'( :'(

I admit that I 'm an uber-harcore Halo nut, I loved it. How can you speak for hardcore Halo fans?:? You don't seem like one to me.....

I was a huge fan of the original and frankly i was disappointed and a lot of the hardcore fans were disappointed too. http://www.halo2sucks.com is an example of those fans. :'(
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#776 Spartan070
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[QUOTE="yo_foo"] Halo 1 was more of a tactical shooter than Halo 2. Halo 2 was dumbed down quite a bit for n00bs to the game. For a general appeal. :'(

You should be happy they dumbed the game down for you then, n00b.:P (sarcasm about the dumb-down)
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#777 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="Tri-valley"]I can't wait for Halo 3. I think Bungie will do a fine job. Many people feel the same way. Many people will most likely buy Halo 3. The probability of sales being superb is almost nearly a given.

One lone troll, with no facts, bias, and blindness to the obvious will not affect anything on this matter. And thus, the dust speck cried sadly into the huge universe... "I MEAN SOMETHING :'(". :lol:

Anyway, what is everyone else excited about so far from what has been shown? Personally, the new enemies are making me drool. The style, the story, the action... man, there's too much! GAH! Is it the release date yet?! All this talk is making me impatient and giddy now! :)


yo_foo
see everyone is basically saying "How good it looks" and saying that it will be good based on the amazing graphics. Even the reports I've seen have just talked about the graphics. Seeing as Microsoft focus on power rather than originality in gameplay I wouldn't be surprised if Halo 3 is All Show and No Substance. :'(

microsoft isnt creating the game..bungie are

I'm talking about Microsofts focus on the power of the 360 than the actual gameplay. :'(

so you don't agree that power can equal better gameplay?
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="yo_foo"] Yes but for hardcore fans who enjoyed the tactical elements of the original Halo they were quite disappointed with the dumbed down tactical elements Halo 2. :'( :'(yo_foo
I admit that I 'm an uber-harcore Halo nut, I loved it. How can you speak for hardcore Halo fans?:? You don't seem like one to me.....

I was a huge fan of the original and frankly i was disappointed and a lot of the hardcore fans were disappointed too. http://www.halo2sucks.com is an example of those fans. :'(

Hardcore fans did not make that site and if they did it was definitely not because of gameplay.
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[QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="coolviper2003"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="121213212132123"]You never had credibility. /owned



That doesn't make sense. Yo_foo's opinion is considered valuable otherwise this thread would of not been so large.

And you can't call someone elses opinion incorrect.



and you can't say your opinion is fact..which is all this guy has been doing ..saying halo3 is going to fail to meet expectations because HE hated halo2 and HE thinks bungie arent going to change anything about halo's gameplay.

but a lot of people hated Halo 2. Halo2sucks.com is an example of this. :'(

People hated Halo 1 too. Just because a handful of people thinks the game sucks, doesn't mean it's a disappointment for all gamers. I don't understand your logic when you say Halo 3 will disappoint, you have no fact and no basis to say that. Yeah, Halo 2 was so much of a disspointment that thousands are playing on Xbox Live as we speak.

Yes but for hardcore fans who enjoyed the tactical elements of the original Halo they were quite disappointed with the dumbed down tactical elements Halo 2. :'( :'(



im a harcore halo fan and i enjoyed both games very well.....dont really get where your going with this lack of tactical elements bit..

Halo 1 was more of a tactical shooter than Halo 2. Halo 2 was dumbed down quite a bit for n00bs to the game. For a general appeal. :'(


*buzzer* Wrong again, buddy. Halo 2 was incredibly tactical. As much, if not more, than the first. The appeal came from just how all around fantastic the game was. :')
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[QUOTE="JediMasterSheed"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="JediMasterSheed"][QUOTE="yo_foo"]Halo: Combat Evolved. Or rather - Combat DeEvolved. yo_foo
oh roffles. w/ cleverness like that, u should cure AIDS. :roll: resistence isnt better than either halo from a gameplay standpoint. rocky sux. u dont sell near 7 million copies off and not consider it a hit.

once again sales doesn't equal gameplay success. :'(

while its tru h2 didnt play as well as h1 from a mechanical standpoint (hitboxes, autoaim, etc.), its still beats the outta the 'cant decide what it wants to be other than a mess' rfom.

RFOM was original in its right that it combined all the great parts of FPS into a nice little package. And FPS are hard to do on consoles. Bungie got it absolutely right with Halo 1 and because of the higher expectations of games on the Playstation, RFOM fell short in expectation. :'(

RFOM was overhyped and it just didn't live up to it, that's why it got the score it did, not because the PS3 has higher standards. Unless you talk to editors and know first hand, then how do you know it has higher standards? If anything, the PS3 probably has lower standards because most 360 to PS3 ports are inferior.
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[QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="Tri-valley"]I can't wait for Halo 3. I think Bungie will do a fine job. Many people feel the same way. Many people will most likely buy Halo 3. The probability of sales being superb is almost nearly a given.

One lone troll, with no facts, bias, and blindness to the obvious will not affect anything on this matter. And thus, the dust speck cried sadly into the huge universe... "I MEAN SOMETHING :'(". :lol:

Anyway, what is everyone else excited about so far from what has been shown? Personally, the new enemies are making me drool. The style, the story, the action... man, there's too much! GAH! Is it the release date yet?! All this talk is making me impatient and giddy now! :)


Tri-valley
see everyone is basically saying "How good it looks" and saying that it will be good based on the amazing graphics. Even the reports I've seen have just talked about the graphics. Seeing as Microsoft focus on power rather than originality in gameplay I wouldn't be surprised if Halo 3 is All Show and No Substance. :'(

microsoft isnt creating the game..bungie are

I'm talking about Microsofts focus on the power of the 360 than the actual gameplay. :'(



Nope, not true. They are focusing on multiple things. Graphics is just one of them. A whole slew of gameplay elements has already been talked about. Again, you're missing alot, buddy. :')

such as... frankly the only thing i've been seeing is: "360 is more powerful than the PS3 therefore 360 > PS3" (even though PS3 is actually more powerful) . The point is that there has been a huge focus on Halo 3s graphical achievements and it seems to be the only thing different from Halo 2 (or Halo 1 for those who believe it will be like that) :'(
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#782 Tri-valley
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[QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="yo_foo"] Yes but for hardcore fans who enjoyed the tactical elements of the original Halo they were quite disappointed with the dumbed down tactical elements Halo 2. :'( :'(

I admit that I 'm an uber-harcore Halo nut, I loved it. How can you speak for hardcore Halo fans?:? You don't seem like one to me.....

I was a huge fan of the original and frankly i was disappointed and a lot of the hardcore fans were disappointed too. http://www.halo2sucks.com is an example of those fans. :'(



Silly yo foo. That's more of an 'exception'. Everything has an exception. Though, if you find a game that no one dislikes, let me know, alright? And hold your breath while doing so. I'll time you. :')
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#783 JediMasterSheed
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[QUOTE="JediMasterSheed"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="JediMasterSheed"][QUOTE="yo_foo"]Halo: Combat Evolved. Or rather - Combat DeEvolved. yo_foo
oh roffles. w/ cleverness like that, u should cure AIDS. :roll: resistence isnt better than either halo from a gameplay standpoint. rocky sux. u dont sell near 7 million copies off and not consider it a hit.

once again sales doesn't equal gameplay success. :'(

while its tru h2 didnt play as well as h1 from a mechanical standpoint (hitboxes, autoaim, etc.), its still beats the outta the 'cant decide what it wants to be other than a mess' rfom.

RFOM was original in its right that it combined all the great parts of FPS into a nice little package. And FPS are hard to do on consoles. Bungie got it absolutely right with Halo 1 and because of the higher expectations of games on the Playstation, RFOM fell short in expectation. :'(

no, it the bad parts and mashed them together, or atleast the parts that dont belong together. u can carry more than 3 guns at once, guns are arcadey since they use a static reticle, yet u move like a slow bag of bricks. thats not winning combo.
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#784 yo_foo
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="yo_foo"] Halo 1 was more of a tactical shooter than Halo 2. Halo 2 was dumbed down quite a bit for n00bs to the game. For a general appeal. :'(

You should be happy they dumbed the game down for you then, n00b.:P (sarcasm about the dumb-down)

I loved Halo one because I like to think when i play. I like to feel that my tactics are the sole reason i get through a level. And tactics that are difficult. Halo 2 was easier and less tactical. But it wasn't as dumb as Doom 3 ;) :'(
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#785 Tri-valley
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[QUOTE="Tri-valley"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="Tri-valley"]I can't wait for Halo 3. I think Bungie will do a fine job. Many people feel the same way. Many people will most likely buy Halo 3. The probability of sales being superb is almost nearly a given.

One lone troll, with no facts, bias, and blindness to the obvious will not affect anything on this matter. And thus, the dust speck cried sadly into the huge universe... "I MEAN SOMETHING :'(". :lol:

Anyway, what is everyone else excited about so far from what has been shown? Personally, the new enemies are making me drool. The style, the story, the action... man, there's too much! GAH! Is it the release date yet?! All this talk is making me impatient and giddy now! :)


yo_foo
see everyone is basically saying "How good it looks" and saying that it will be good based on the amazing graphics. Even the reports I've seen have just talked about the graphics. Seeing as Microsoft focus on power rather than originality in gameplay I wouldn't be surprised if Halo 3 is All Show and No Substance. :'(

microsoft isnt creating the game..bungie are

I'm talking about Microsofts focus on the power of the 360 than the actual gameplay. :'(



Nope, not true. They are focusing on multiple things. Graphics is just one of them. A whole slew of gameplay elements has already been talked about. Again, you're missing alot, buddy. :')

such as... frankly the only thing i've been seeing is: "360 is more powerful than the PS3 therefore 360 > PS3" (even though PS3 is actually more powerful) . The point is that there has been a huge focus on Halo 3s graphical achievements and it seems to be the only thing different from Halo 2 (or Halo 1 for those who believe it will be like that) :'(



Nah. "The point is" that there is a huge focus on Halo 3 period. "Frankly" you just seem to be rather poor at finding more info. Might wanna get someone to help you with that. Or selective focus. Or something. *shrugs* Oh well, I'm sure you'll get over one day. :')
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#786 yo_foo
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[QUOTE="Tri-valley"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="yo_foo"] Yes but for hardcore fans who enjoyed the tactical elements of the original Halo they were quite disappointed with the dumbed down tactical elements Halo 2. :'( :'(

I admit that I 'm an uber-harcore Halo nut, I loved it. How can you speak for hardcore Halo fans?:? You don't seem like one to me.....

I was a huge fan of the original and frankly i was disappointed and a lot of the hardcore fans were disappointed too. http://www.halo2sucks.com is an example of those fans. :'(



Silly yo foo. That's more of an 'exception'. Everything has an exception. Though, if you find a game that no one dislikes, let me know, alright? And hold your breath while doing so. I'll time you. :')

big rigs :'(
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#787 JediMasterSheed
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[QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="yo_foo"] Halo 1 was more of a tactical shooter than Halo 2. Halo 2 was dumbed down quite a bit for n00bs to the game. For a general appeal. :'(

You should be happy they dumbed the game down for you then, n00b.:P (sarcasm about the dumb-down)

I loved Halo one because I like to think when i play. I like to feel that my tactics are the sole reason i get through a level. And tactics that are difficult. Halo 2 was easier and less tactical. But it wasn't as dumb as Doom 3 ;) :'(

all doom 3 engine games are dumb.
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[QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="coolviper2003"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="121213212132123"]You never had credibility. /owned



That doesn't make sense. Yo_foo's opinion is considered valuable otherwise this thread would of not been so large.

And you can't call someone elses opinion incorrect.



and you can't say your opinion is fact..which is all this guy has been doing ..saying halo3 is going to fail to meet expectations because HE hated halo2 and HE thinks bungie arent going to change anything about halo's gameplay.

but a lot of people hated Halo 2. Halo2sucks.com is an example of this. :'(

People hated Halo 1 too. Just because a handful of people thinks the game sucks, doesn't mean it's a disappointment for all gamers. I don't understand your logic when you say Halo 3 will disappoint, you have no fact and no basis to say that. Yeah, Halo 2 was so much of a disspointment that thousands are playing on Xbox Live as we speak.

Yes but for hardcore fans who enjoyed the tactical elements of the original Halo they were quite disappointed with the dumbed down tactical elements Halo 2. :'( :'(



im a harcore halo fan and i enjoyed both games very well.....dont really get where your going with this lack of tactical elements bit..

Halo 1 was more of a tactical shooter than Halo 2. Halo 2 was dumbed down quite a bit for n00bs to the game. For a general appeal. :'(

halo2 wasn't dumbed down to me..just more fast- paced. i still felt like i had to make tactical choices just to get by a simple game of odd ball or CTF
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#790 Spartan070
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[QUOTE="brainiac24"][QUOTE="yo_foo"]Halo: Combat Evolved. Or rather - Combat DeEvolved. That should be the slogan that Microsoft should run with for the latest in its One Hit Wonder trilogy - Halo 3.

Now don't get me wrong. Halo was a good game, although a little over rated, and fulfilled itself as the only official X-Box game worth buying the console for (although it came out on PC! Bad move). It developed tactical shooting and developed a good fanbase for those interested in that kind of thing. It had satisfactory multiplayer content which was good solid fun but also applied the use of tactics like in the missions.

Then enter Halo 2. To increase Halo fanbase, they decided to dumb the game down for those who don't have the time for tactics and made the game just a full on shooter with limited tactics and cruddy weapons. Yes Halo 1s weapons were far superior.

And now Halo 3 which promises to be a rehash of Halo 2s style of gameplay to keep these gamers who don't like to think that much and just shoot (the types of gamers who thought Doom 3 and Prey were Gods Gift to Gaming) and still keep in pretty well the same style as Tribes only without the jetpacks. Plus the same repetitive nature of the game will drastically annoy fans of the original and soon enough people will just ignore Halo and remember it for what the series really is - A One Hit Wonder, much in the same vain as the Baha Men's "Who Let the Dogs Out" and the original Rocky film.

Resistance is the Halo killer for this generation of gaming. No doubt about it.

:'(


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#791 yo_foo
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[QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="JediMasterSheed"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="JediMasterSheed"][QUOTE="yo_foo"]Halo: Combat Evolved. Or rather - Combat DeEvolved. JediMasterSheed
oh roffles. w/ cleverness like that, u should cure AIDS. :roll: resistence isnt better than either halo from a gameplay standpoint. rocky sux. u dont sell near 7 million copies off and not consider it a hit.

once again sales doesn't equal gameplay success. :'(

while its tru h2 didnt play as well as h1 from a mechanical standpoint (hitboxes, autoaim, etc.), its still beats the outta the 'cant decide what it wants to be other than a mess' rfom.

RFOM was original in its right that it combined all the great parts of FPS into a nice little package. And FPS are hard to do on consoles. Bungie got it absolutely right with Halo 1 and because of the higher expectations of games on the Playstation, RFOM fell short in expectation. :'(

no, it the bad parts and mashed them together, or atleast the parts that dont belong together. u can carry more than 3 guns at once, guns are arcadey since they use a static reticle, yet u move like a slow bag of bricks. thats not winning combo.

did you have a read of the review? Obviously not because it clearly states that all the best parts of FPS were used. It all comes under expectations anyhow. :'(
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What do you define as success?

I can guareentee you the game will not only score high but sell well. Xbox is Halo like Nintendo is Miyamoto.
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#793 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="lawlessx"]if he started the topic saying "why i think halo3 wont be very successful" ..i think people would just hear what he has to say and brush it off and forget about it..him saying that the game will not be successful will of course start a huge flame war because who is he to say if the game will be successful or not? nobody else has really played the game besides bungie and the us army... and thanks for that..your a great poster yourself



Thanks.

And this is yo_foo we're talking about! Of course he doesn't want people to "brush it off". He wants to make an impact! That's why I like him.




yeah i know..he wants to remembered as "the guy who said halo3 was going to flop"...he would stand out above the countless other halo haters out there just because of this thread.
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#794 JediMasterSheed
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="coolviper2003"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="121213212132123"]You never had credibility. /owned



That doesn't make sense. Yo_foo's opinion is considered valuable otherwise this thread would of not been so large.

And you can't call someone elses opinion incorrect.



and you can't say your opinion is fact..which is all this guy has been doing ..saying halo3 is going to fail to meet expectations because HE hated halo2 and HE thinks bungie arent going to change anything about halo's gameplay.

but a lot of people hated Halo 2. Halo2sucks.com is an example of this. :'(

People hated Halo 1 too. Just because a handful of people thinks the game sucks, doesn't mean it's a disappointment for all gamers. I don't understand your logic when you say Halo 3 will disappoint, you have no fact and no basis to say that. Yeah, Halo 2 was so much of a disspointment that thousands are playing on Xbox Live as we speak.

Yes but for hardcore fans who enjoyed the tactical elements of the original Halo they were quite disappointed with the dumbed down tactical elements Halo 2. :'( :'(



im a harcore halo fan and i enjoyed both games very well.....dont really get where your going with this lack of tactical elements bit..

Halo 1 was more of a tactical shooter than Halo 2. Halo 2 was dumbed down quite a bit for n00bs to the game. For a general appeal. :'(

halo2 wasn't dumbed down to me..just more fast- paced. i still felt like i had to make tactical choices just to get by a simple game of odd ball or CTF

i feel like h2 was more dm oriented, compared to halo1 which seemed more team oriented.
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#795 yo_foo
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[QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="Tri-valley"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="Tri-valley"]I can't wait for Halo 3. I think Bungie will do a fine job. Many people feel the same way. Many people will most likely buy Halo 3. The probability of sales being superb is almost nearly a given.

One lone troll, with no facts, bias, and blindness to the obvious will not affect anything on this matter. And thus, the dust speck cried sadly into the huge universe... "I MEAN SOMETHING :'(". :lol:

Anyway, what is everyone else excited about so far from what has been shown? Personally, the new enemies are making me drool. The style, the story, the action... man, there's too much! GAH! Is it the release date yet?! All this talk is making me impatient and giddy now! :)


Tri-valley
see everyone is basically saying "How good it looks" and saying that it will be good based on the amazing graphics. Even the reports I've seen have just talked about the graphics. Seeing as Microsoft focus on power rather than originality in gameplay I wouldn't be surprised if Halo 3 is All Show and No Substance. :'(

microsoft isnt creating the game..bungie are

I'm talking about Microsofts focus on the power of the 360 than the actual gameplay. :'(



Nope, not true. They are focusing on multiple things. Graphics is just one of them. A whole slew of gameplay elements has already been talked about. Again, you're missing alot, buddy. :')

such as... frankly the only thing i've been seeing is: "360 is more powerful than the PS3 therefore 360 > PS3" (even though PS3 is actually more powerful) . The point is that there has been a huge focus on Halo 3s graphical achievements and it seems to be the only thing different from Halo 2 (or Halo 1 for those who believe it will be like that) :'(



Nah. "The point is" that there is a huge focus on Halo 3 period. "Frankly" you just seem to be rather poor at finding more info. Might wanna get someone to help you with that. Or selective focus. Or something. *shrugs* Oh well, I'm sure you'll get over one day. :')

the links that a mad Halo fan sent me gave me information a couple of paragraphs long about how the shading looked effective on the suit. :'(
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#797 Tri-valley
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[QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="Tri-valley"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="yo_foo"] Yes but for hardcore fans who enjoyed the tactical elements of the original Halo they were quite disappointed with the dumbed down tactical elements Halo 2. :'( :'(

I admit that I 'm an uber-harcore Halo nut, I loved it. How can you speak for hardcore Halo fans?:? You don't seem like one to me.....

I was a huge fan of the original and frankly i was disappointed and a lot of the hardcore fans were disappointed too. http://www.halo2sucks.com is an example of those fans. :'(



Silly yo foo. That's more of an 'exception'. Everything has an exception. Though, if you find a game that no one dislikes, let me know, alright? And hold your breath while doing so. I'll time you. :')

big rigs :'(

*buzzer* Aw, too bad. Looks like you failed. But you still get a consolation prize for being a real trooper in the game. The gift... of believing in yourself. :')
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[QUOTE="JediMasterSheed"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="JediMasterSheed"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="JediMasterSheed"][QUOTE="yo_foo"]Halo: Combat Evolved. Or rather - Combat DeEvolved. yo_foo
oh roffles. w/ cleverness like that, u should cure AIDS. :roll: resistence isnt better than either halo from a gameplay standpoint. rocky sux. u dont sell near 7 million copies off and not consider it a hit.

once again sales doesn't equal gameplay success. :'(

while its tru h2 didnt play as well as h1 from a mechanical standpoint (hitboxes, autoaim, etc.), its still beats the outta the 'cant decide what it wants to be other than a mess' rfom.

RFOM was original in its right that it combined all the great parts of FPS into a nice little package. And FPS are hard to do on consoles. Bungie got it absolutely right with Halo 1 and because of the higher expectations of games on the Playstation, RFOM fell short in expectation. :'(

no, it the bad parts and mashed them together, or atleast the parts that dont belong together. u can carry more than 3 guns at once, guns are arcadey since they use a static reticle, yet u move like a slow bag of bricks. thats not winning combo.

did you have a read of the review? Obviously not because it clearly states that all the best parts of FPS were used. It all comes under expectations anyhow. :'(

i didn base my opinion off the reviews, i played the game (the mp portion asnyways). my opinions are strictly my own.
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#799 yo_foo
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What do you define as success?

I can guareentee you the game will not only score high but sell well. Xbox is Halo like Nintendo is Miyamoto.
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success is how well the game comes off. And it will disappoint gamers and fans alike. :'(
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[QUOTE="Tri-valley"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="Tri-valley"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="yo_foo"][QUOTE="Tri-valley"]I can't wait for Halo 3. I think Bungie will do a fine job. Many people feel the same way. Many people will most likely buy Halo 3. The probability of sales being superb is almost nearly a given.

One lone troll, with no facts, bias, and blindness to the obvious will not affect anything on this matter. And thus, the dust speck cried sadly into the huge universe... "I MEAN SOMETHING :'(". :lol:

Anyway, what is everyone else excited about so far from what has been shown? Personally, the new enemies are making me drool. The style, the story, the action... man, there's too much! GAH! Is it the release date yet?! All this talk is making me impatient and giddy now! :)


yo_foo
see everyone is basically saying "How good it looks" and saying that it will be good based on the amazing graphics. Even the reports I've seen have just talked about the graphics. Seeing as Microsoft focus on power rather than originality in gameplay I wouldn't be surprised if Halo 3 is All Show and No Substance. :'(

microsoft isnt creating the game..bungie are

I'm talking about Microsofts focus on the power of the 360 than the actual gameplay. :'(



Nope, not true. They are focusing on multiple things. Graphics is just one of them. A whole slew of gameplay elements has already been talked about. Again, you're missing alot, buddy. :')

such as... frankly the only thing i've been seeing is: "360 is more powerful than the PS3 therefore 360 > PS3" (even though PS3 is actually more powerful) . The point is that there has been a huge focus on Halo 3s graphical achievements and it seems to be the only thing different from Halo 2 (or Halo 1 for those who believe it will be like that) :'(



Nah. "The point is" that there is a huge focus on Halo 3 period. "Frankly" you just seem to be rather poor at finding more info. Might wanna get someone to help you with that. Or selective focus. Or something. *shrugs* Oh well, I'm sure you'll get over one day. :')

the links that a mad Halo fan sent me gave me information a couple of paragraphs long about how the shading looked effective on the suit. :'(


There's more out there. :')